Do you believe in The Bible

[Golfingnut]

Found this interesting reading about the use of cannabis by Jesus to heal the sick.

[buggyone]

Found this interesting reading about the use of cannabis by Jesus to heal the sick.

Marijuana in the Bible | Patients for Medical Cannabis (http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/marijuana-info/marijuana-in-the-bible/)

You truly are obsessed with marijuana, Golfingnut. It has been thoroughly discussed here as a tax benefit, recreational use, and medicinal use. Enough already?

[bkcunningham1]

I'm sorry Lou but I nearly spit coffee onto my keyboard when I saw your source as High Times Magazine.

[Taltarzac725]

Although most modern people choose to smoke or eat pot, when its active ingredients are transferred into an oil-based carrier, it can also be absorbed through the skin, which is in fact one big organ.

That's why I was so stoned at the Bette Midler Red Rocks concert!

I would not want to use the medical knowledge of 30 AD for the various problems of 2014. Personally, I do not like to take any medication of any kind unless I have to for some reason.

[billethkid]

I was going to answer the question in the thread title until I saw the real subject matter.

[graciegirl]

People are beginning to say that Lou is about marijuana how I am about the Morses.:blahblahblah:

[Taltarzac725]

People are beginning to say that Lou is about marijuana how I am about the Morses.:blahblahblah:

So glad you are back, graciegirl. Have you met the Morses yet?

I smoked some maryjane around 5th grade and never felt much of a desire to try anything after that except where I had no choice because of the weed laced concert venues like those of BB King, Eric Clapton, Yes, Styx, Billy Joel, Bette Midler, Joe Jackson and perhaps some Lake Tahoe Shakespeare plays. Shakespeare must sound better when stoned to some.

[DonH57]

People should be able to grow their own so they know exactly where it came from. Planted between the tomatoes and tyme. I'm not sure about totally trusting a pharmacist.

[Golfingnut]

People should be able to grow their own so they know exactly where it came from. Planted between the tomatoes and tyme. I'm not sure about totally trusting a pharmacist.

:bigbow:
Great post Don

[DonH57]

Thanks Lou. I never really read High Times magazine or subscribed to it. I know it's been around a long time. I truly miss National Lampoon magazine. Great rag.

[Golfingnut]

Thanks Lou. I never really read High Times magazine or subscribed to it. I know it's been around a long time. I truly miss National Lampoon magazine. Great rag.

I never have either, I am closer to a good ole boy red neck than I am a hippie. I do care for the old, sick and handy caped very much. I wonder if I am breaking any good ole boy covenants by caring about social ills yet I drink beer, own guns, eat red meat.

[Villages PL]

Found this interesting reading about the use of cannabis by Jesus to heal the sick.

Marijuana in the Bible | Patients for Medical Cannabis (http://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/marijuana-info/marijuana-in-the-bible/)

It sounds like faith healing. They may not have known what caused what. They mixed a lot of ingredients together and had faith that it would do them good. Was it the ingredients, or was it their faith that healed them?
This might be similar to the placebo effect where non active ingredients actually cure people of various conditions.

[Golfingnut]

It sounds like faith healing. They may not have known what caused what. They mixed a lot of ingredients together and had faith that it would do them good. Was it the ingredients, or was it their faith that healed them?
This might be similar to the placebo effect where non active ingredients actually cure people of various conditions.

Very good. You receive 5 Gold stars for that post IN MY OPINION. I don't often get caught off guard and say holly s#%€. You absolutely made my day with that one. Thank you!!!!

[kittygilchrist]

I would not want to be in the shoes of anyone throwing verbal stones at Jesus. He is full of grace and truth, but warns against blaspheming the Holy Spirit. He freely offers truth and life and instead people prefer a multitude of lies. I can't go along with the sentiment of this thread that it is humorous to say Jesus healed by marijuana.
Miss Kitty

[Villages PL]

Very good. You receive 5 Gold stars for that post IN MY OPINION. I don't often get caught off guard and say holly s#%€. You absolutely made my day with that one. Thank you!!!!

You're welcome! :ho:

[kittygilchrist]

Very good. You receive 5 Gold stars for that post IN MY OPINION. I don't often get caught off guard and say holly s#%€. You absolutely made my day with that one. Thank you!!!!

anything that explains away that Jesus was God in the flesh makes those feel better who do not know who he is.

[CFrance]

So glad you are back, graciegirl. Have you met the Morses yet?

I smoked some maryjane around 5th grade and never felt much of a desire to try anything after that except where I had no choice because of the weed laced concert venues like those of BB King, Eric Clapton, Yes, Styx, Billy Joel, Bette Midler, Joe Jackson and perhaps some Lake Tahoe Shakespeare plays. Shakespeare must sound better when stoned to some.

I'm going to show my lack of sophistication and admit that the only thing that would make Shakespeare sound better to me would be Nyquil.

[Golfingnut]

I would not want to be in the shoes of anyone throwing verbal stones at Jesus. He is full of grace and truth, but warns against blaspheming the Holy Spirit. He freely offers truth and life and instead people prefer a multitude of lies. I can't go alone with the sentiment of this thread that it is humorous to say Jesus healed by marijuana.
Miss Kitty

Miss Kitty. There was no disrespect to Jesus in this thread. To me Jesus was a hero after reading the sermon on the mount.

[kittygilchrist]

Miss Kitty. There was no disrespect to Jesus in this thread. To me Jesus was a hero after reading the sermon on the mount.

Perhaps none intended...Those who crucified him accused him of healing by Satanic means and hung him for blasphemy. How ironic is that? He healed every single person who came to him or asked him, even brought back, I think 3 people from death. The fact is Jesus did not heal by marijuana, he healed by the merciful miraculous love of God.
He doesn't need my defense, but I have to ask those posting to consider who it is you are using to get attention for a cause.

[graciegirl]

Boy.

[rubicon]

You truly are obsessed with marijuana, Golfingnut. It has been thoroughly discussed here as a tax benefit, recreational use, and medicinal use. Enough already?

buggyone: THANK YOU SO MUCH. Talk about beating a dead horse. This horse hs ben so beaten its turn in to horse jerky. It would have been a good thread if the OP stuck to its title

[Golfingnut]

Perhaps none intended...Those who crucified him accused him of healing by Satanic means and hung him for blasphemy. How ironic is that? He healed every single person who came to him or asked him, even brought back, I think 3 people from death. The fact is Jesus did not heal by marijuana, he healed by the merciful miraculous love of God.
He doesn't need my defense, but I have to ask those posting to consider who it is you are using to get attention for a cause.

POINT: I have met you and know you to be a special soul. Sorry for the drama, but no disrespect meant. I will go into detail at the next happy hour..
I am an agnostic, but think Jesus was a wonderful profit with a message that I try to follow every day.

[Villages PL]

This horse has been so beaten its turn into horse jerky.

:1rotfl:

[Golfingnut]

Boy.

Stay away from this one, you will not understand.:ho:

[kittygilchrist]

POINT: I have met you and know you to be a special soul. Sorry for the drama, but no disrespect meant. I will go into detail at the next happy hour..
I am an agnostic, but think Jesus was a wonderful profit with a message that I try to follow every day.

that's a date! when is it?

[Golfingnut]

I will have to research unless Doug is still on line and comes to my rescue.

[Kahuna32162]

Religious opinions and beliefs are much like political ones, they are individual and varied and should stay private.

[Golfingnut]

Religious opinions and beliefs are much like political ones, they are individual and varied and should stay private.

Correct, but I cannot say I do not know Jesus if asked. But, point well taken and understood.

[Carl in Tampa]

Miss Kitty. There was no disrespect to Jesus in this thread. To me Jesus was a hero after reading the sermon on the mount.

No disrespect?

Did you READ the link you posted to?

It says, "Indeed, our modern concepts of Jesus, such as the virgin birth and the Resurrection, fall away."

It says, in effect, that Jesus was not the Son of God, and needed herbs to heal people. God does not need herbs to heal people.

You are on the wrong path.

:confused:

[redwitch]

Boy.



Howdy!

[TexaninVA]

No disrespect?

Did you READ the link you posted to?

It says, "Indeed, our modern concepts of Jesus, such as the virgin birth and the Resurrection, fall away."

It says, in effect, that Jesus was not the Son of God, and needed herbs to heal people. God does not need herbs to heal people.

You are on the wrong path.

:confused:

Actually, the link was VERY disrespectful ... I think a clarification as to the motive for posting, or apology is now appropriate

[DougB]

I will have to research unless Doug is still on line and comes to my rescue.

Next TOTV Happy Hour is Saturday, March 15 at the Saturday Night Dance club at the Captiva Rec Center. Club starts at 6:00. Get there early to get a seat. Look for the TOTV balloon to find our table. Seating is limited. The band Vinyl Recall will be playing. BYOB, food and snacks! Bible study will follow.

[Carl in Tampa]

Next TOTV Happy Hour is Saturday, March 15 at the Saturday Night Dance club at the Captiva Rec Center. Club starts at 6:00. Get there early to get a seat. Look for the TOTV balloon to find our table. Seating is limited. The band Vinyl Recall will be playing. BYOB, food and snacks! Bible study will follow.




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[Golfingnut]

:1rotfl:


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I Will be
there.

[shcisamax]

Actually, the link was VERY disrespectful ... I think a clarification as to the motive for posting, or apology is now appropriate

Oh stop it.

[gpirate]

I would not want to be in the shoes of anyone throwing verbal stones at Jesus. He is full of grace and truth, but warns against blaspheming the Holy Spirit. He freely offers truth and life and instead people prefer a multitude of lies. I can't go alone with the sentiment of this thread that it is humorous to say Jesus healed by marijuana.
Miss Kitty

Fully agree and lets hope a lot of the postings are for humor only. We do not need a nation of pot smokers. We outlaw tobacco or try to and then pass laws for other smokes.

[Bonanza]

After quickly breezing through these posts, I've come to the conclusion that anything that refers to religious opinions and remarks should be vetoed, just like anything political. I am not speaking about humorous things, but rather the serious posts.

Enough already!

[Mr. Grampi II]

I tried it once in some brownies on a guys only camping trip. I belonged to a club in Toledo that camped on an island in the winter, you had to walk across the ice to get to the camping site. It was 14 below the night we had selected to camp out. Somebody brought the brownies and I ate 3 of them, not knowing what was in them. I had on a flame orange coveralls that you hunt deer in, I got too close to the fire trying to stay warm. I burned out the seat of my overalls,from the belt down to my knees, right down to the blue jeans under it and never knew a thing until morning....

[Golfingnut]

I tried it once in some brownies on a guys only camping trip. I belonged to a club in Toledo that camped on an island in the winter, you had to walk across the ice to get to the camping site. It was 14 below the night we had selected to camp out. Somebody brought the brownies and I ate 3 of them, not knowing what was in them. I had on a flame orange coveralls that you hunt deer in, I got too close to the fire trying to stay warm. I burned out the seat of my overalls,from the belt down to my knees, right down to the blue jeans under it and never knew a thing until morning....

Looks like I found another one that won't be lighting up any time soon. LOL

[Taltarzac725]

Does Marijuana Damage Brain Cells? (http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/2009/MarijuanaBrain.htm)

I did find this article on brain cells and maryjane interesting.

I have had enough of a struggle trying to keep my brain cells working well so why risk it if there is some effect? Still if someone inviting me to a No Doubt concert, I would no doubt be exposed to marijuana smoke. Or, at least, it is very probable that some No Doubt would be blowing around. Every other concert that attracts teens and twenty somethings I have gone to has had some marijuana fumes. Maybe, if I were into Christian music, but then again I should not assume Christian teens might also smoke pot, especially when away from their parents.

[DonH57]

I tried it once in some brownies on a guys only camping trip. I belonged to a club in Toledo that camped on an island in the winter, you had to walk across the ice to get to the camping site. It was 14 below the night we had selected to camp out. Somebody brought the brownies and I ate 3 of them, not knowing what was in them. I had on a flame orange coveralls that you hunt deer in, I got too close to the fire trying to stay warm. I burned out the seat of my overalls,from the belt down to my knees, right down to the blue jeans under it and never knew a thing until morning....

LOL. That's a pretty funny story.:1rotfl:

[collie1228]

I don't presume to know anything about marijuana's miraculous health benefits, but I do know for a fact that its use had the miraculous benefit of making The Grateful Dead sound good.

[DougB]

I don't presume to know anything about marijuana's miraculous health benefits, but I do know for a fact that its use had the miraculous benefit of making The Grateful Dead sound good.

With a "few" hits of Orange Sunshine.

[TexaninVA]

I don't presume to know anything about marijuana's miraculous health benefits, but I do know for a fact that its use had the miraculous benefit of making The Grateful Dead sound good.

That is indeed a miracle.

[joerocker]

It all boils down to "how free are we"? In a free society, there are few "laws", and everyone knows and does what's "right" on their own. The individual determines their own fate. What they'll do or don't do.

I ask the people who say no to legalization, why? You don't trust your fellow citizens to make rational decisions? People aren't capable of self governance? People are incapable of self determination? Self control? Do you "not do" things because it's the law? Or because people just shouldn't do those things?

I personally would like to make my own decisions. I would like to choose what's "best" for me. Not be told what I can and can't have/do like I'm a child, or worse.

[Tweety Bird]

People should be able to grow their own so they know exactly where it came from. Planted between the tomatoes and tyme. I'm not sure about totally trusting a pharmacist.

We will be checking your tomatoes!!!!

[TexaninVA]

It all boils down to "how free are we"? In a free society, there are few "laws", and everyone knows and does what's "right" on their own. The individual determines their own fate. What they'll do or don't do.

I ask the people who say no to legalization, why? You don't trust your fellow citizens to make rational decisions? People aren't capable of self governance? People are incapable of self determination? Self control? Do you "not do" things because it's the law? Or because people just shouldn't do those things?

I personally would like to make my own decisions. I would like to choose what's "best" for me. Not be told what I can and can't have/do like I'm a child, or worse.

Hmmmn, in reading this post it sounds like you are most comfortable with a more libertarian philosophy if I can speculate a bit. That's ok but nothing is absolute.

In terms of not trusting one's fellow citizens and why the need for law ... you can ask that about all the laws on the books. Why do we need a Congress to pass truckloads of statutes each year ... some thousands of pages long that no one apparently reads anyway, and then changes it at a whim. There's no clear answer but not's the focus of this thread anyway.

But, yes there are way too many people in this country who do not have a clue about what's going on (note: NOT equating this with TOTVers who vote to legalize ! :) ) I'm talking more about the person on the street interviews done by Leno or others. Sometimes their stupidity is breathtaking. You kind of hope they're using birth control actually.

[CFrance]

People should be able to grow their own so they know exactly where it came from. Planted between the tomatoes and tyme. I'm not sure about totally trusting a pharmacist.
Do you need someone to come water your tomatoes while you're on vacation?:a040:

[shcisamax]

Do you need someone to come water your tomatoes while you're on vacation?:a040:

Can I help you and hold the hose while you are watering?

[DonH57]

Can I help you and hold the hose while you are watering?

Hmm. I believe I may return to stripped naked plants........: )

[CFrance]

We won't steal your tomatoes; just do a little "weeding" between the plants.

[rubicon]

This country has practically made smoking cigarettes, cigars and pipes a crime eliminated smoking in public places and drastically increased health premium costs on smokers but some claim they have the "right" to smoke dope. Why is it people claim rights never discuss responsibilities.? Why is it legalization of marijuana is even a discussion in the main stream?

Does marijuana go well with red meat or white meat? Should one serve an ale or lager with a German menu? questions for those supports who argue alcohol and marijuana are the same argument.

Why would someone stoop to feigning a comparison between the Bible and this hedonistic practice?

I find it very disrespectful to people of faith to marginalize the bible in such a manner

[Golfingnut]

Funny how some have lots of questions, but no answers. I will try to get to all of them but I must do dedicated research before blurting out a response.

[graciegirl]

This country has practically made smoking cigarettes, cigars and pipes a crime eliminated smoking in public places and drastically increased health premium costs on smokers but some claim they have the "right" to smoke dope. Why is it people claim rights never discuss responsibilities.? Why is it legalization of marijuana is even a discussion in the main stream?

Does marijuana go well with red meat or white meat? Should one serve an ale or lager with a German menu? questions for those supports who argue alcohol and marijuana are the same argument.

Why would someone stoop to feigning a comparison between the Bible and this hedonistic practice?

I find it very disrespectful to people of faith to marginalize the bible in such a manner


I agree. I find it hard to understand why someone would hurt others with such callous words especially those readers, villagers, who do no harm at all and find comfort in their beliefs.


I think it insensitive at the least to say ". Religion is a "crutch" too. I'd be more in favor of banning that over marijuana."


I am not a good example of a religious person but I respect those that are. And at our age and with so much chance of deadly illness, we have to choose what our "crutch" will be and perhaps not look down on our peers if they choose religion. It hurts me and makes me angry.

[wendyquat]

People are beginning to say that Lou is about marijuana how I am about the Morses.:blahblahblah:

Lou may be happier relocating to Colorado!

[wendyquat]

It all boils down to "how free are we"? In a free society, there are few "laws", and everyone knows and does what's "right" on their own. The individual determines their own fate. What they'll do or don't do.

I ask the people who say no to legalization, why? You don't trust your fellow citizens to make rational decisions? People aren't capable of self governance? People are incapable of self determination? Self control? Do you "not do" things because it's the law? Or because people just shouldn't do those things?

I personally would like to make my own decisions. I would like to choose what's "best" for me. Not be told what I can and can't have/do like I'm a child, or worse.

It stinks and I don't want to have to smell your second hand smoke!

[kittygilchrist]

I keep thinking yes, OP I do believe in the Bible. most of what is written here is self-ego-generated and not to do with a connection with or word of the divine.

[kittygilchrist]

well then, either Jesus is the truth offered freely by his blood shed intentionally for the sins of mankind; or he is evil one who promotes a person in his own right is his own god, and finds his own way to becoming righteous. I surrender to God's sacrifice for me. how can I think to improve on God's salvation. I cannot.

[TexaninVA]

I hope everyone realizes that I am totally against the smoking, eating or any method of introducing marijuana into the body.. Now that is my feeling on pot..

That is by no means the impression most people get from reading your posts with your impassioned support of legalization.

Do you see any conflict at all with what you say in the above quote, and then enthusiastically calling for legalizing it?

[Easyrider]

Found this interesting reading about the use of cannabis by Jesus to heal the sick.

What a total crock...The earth is flat too....Is there no low too low for the promoters of pot to go...

Crock; a thing that is considered to be complete nonsense.
synonyms: lie, falsehood, fib, made-up story, invention, fabrication, deception, (piece of) fiction; More


High Times Magazine :1rotfl::1rotfl:

[2BNTV]

I respectfiully have to agree to disagree.

Lou, Lou, Lou, you like to stir the pot, but seem to forget,"A man convince against he will, is of the same opinion still", - Dale Carnegie.

This thread is bogus, in that no one really knows what happened back then.
except those who are willing to believe and be faithful. Everyone is entitled to their belief system, and no one should be questioning whether their belief system in not validate.

I am sorry you have brought up a subject, that will never be resolved, because everyone will have their thoughts, beliefs, and opinions, and no one will ever change them, except a higher powrer.

Have a nice day pondering, the imponderables. :smiley:

Respectfully

Joe Beja

[DougB]

Joe,
You can say that again!

[2BNTV]

I respectfiully have to agree to disagree.

Lou, Lou, Lou, you like to stir the pot, but seem to forget,"A man convince against he will, is of the same opinion still", - Dale Carnegie.

This thread is bogus, in that no one really knows what happened back then.
except those who are willing to believe and be faithful. Everyone is entitled to their belief system, and no one should be questioning whether their belief system in not validate.

I am sorry you have brought up a subject, that will never be resolved, because everyone will have their thoughts, beliefs, and opinions, and no one will ever change them, except a higher powrer.

Have a nice day pondering, the imponderables. :smiley:

Respectfully

Joe Beja

Joe,
You can say that again!

Ok, I will. See above post. Thanks Doug for your kind thoughts. :smiley:

[DougB]

Ok, I will. See above post. Thanks Doug for your kind thoughts. :smiley:

:highfive:

[Bonanza]

Can I help you and hold the hose while you are watering?

May I turn on the water???

[Barefoot]

We won't steal your tomatoes; just do a little "weeding" between the plants.

Can I help you and hold the hose while you are watering?

Do you need someone to come water your tomatoes while you're on vacation?:a040:

May I turn on the water???

Can I sit in a lawn chair, supervise the weeding, and bake the brownies?

[Golfingnut]

Quote:
Originally Posted by CFrance;842***
We won't steal your tomatoes; just do a little "weeding" between the plants.
Quote:
Originally Posted by shcisamax
Can I help you and hold the hose while you are watering?
Quote:
Originally Posted by CFrance
Do you need someone to come water your tomatoes while you're on vacation?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bonanza
May I turn on the water???
Can I sit in a lawn chair, supervise the weeding, and bake the brownies?
__________________
Barefoot At Last
No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted.

I will be going to Colorado to visit my kids.

[Golfingnut]

I respectfiully have to agree to disagree.

Lou, Lou, Lou, you like to stir the pot, but seem to forget,"A man convince against he will, is of the same opinion still", - Dale Carnegie.

This thread is bogus, in that no one really knows what happened back then.
except those who are willing to believe and be faithful. Everyone is entitled to their belief system, and no one should be questioning whether their belief system in not validate.

I am sorry you have brought up a subject, that will never be resolved, because everyone will have their thoughts, beliefs, and opinions, and no one will ever change them, except a higher powrer.

Have a nice day pondering, the imponderables. :smiley:

Respectfully

Joe Beja

OK, if you say it, I believe it. Thank you for doing so with no sarcasm. I will stay away form religious topics.

[Tom Hannon]

I respectfiully have to agree to disagree.

Lou, Lou, Lou, you like to stir the pot, but seem to forget,"A man convince against he will, is of the same opinion still", - Dale Carnegie.

This thread is bogus, in that no one really knows what happened back then.
except those who are willing to believe and be faithful. Everyone is entitled to their belief system, and no one should be questioning whether their belief system in not validate.

I am sorry you have brought up a subject, that will never be resolved, because everyone will have their thoughts, beliefs, and opinions, and no one will ever change them, except a higher powrer.

Have a nice day pondering, the imponderables. :smiley:

Respectfully

Joe Beja

Great reply, Joe. I couldn't agree more.

[Golfingnut]

Great reply, Joe. I couldn't agree more.

I started the thread and after reading Joe's post then rereading my OP, I agree as well. Joe has an honest kind way of pointing things out. Thank you Joe.

Lou

[shcisamax]

Does that mean there will be no tomato plants to water?

[Bonanza]

Can I sit in a lawn chair, supervise the weeding, and bake the brownies?

Yes! But please put walnuts or pecans in the brownies.

That is, of course, if I get the job of turning on the water.

[CFrance]

Yes! But please put walnuts or pecans in the brownies.

That is, of course, if I get the job of turning on the water.

I vote for the pecans. Could you toast them first, please?

[TOTV Team]

Please stay on topic with this thread but feel free to start a new one for a new topic.

Thanks

[Villages PL]

It all boils down to "how free are we"? In a free society, there are few "laws", and everyone knows and does what's "right" on their own. The individual determines their own fate. What they'll do or don't do.

I ask the people who say no to legalization, why? You don't trust your fellow citizens to make rational decisions? People aren't capable of self governance? People are incapable of self determination? Self control? Do you "not do" things because it's the law? Or because people just shouldn't do those things?

I personally would like to make my own decisions. I would like to choose what's "best" for me. Not be told what I can and can't have/do like I'm a child, or worse.

How free are we? We're not free when we have to pay for the mistakes that others make. If you can fix it so that people suffer the consequences of their own actions, and no one else suffers, then maybe we won't need so many laws. But I don't see any chance of that happening any time soon.

Basically, people want to live on the edge with a (taxpayer) safety net. So we all pay for the mistakes of others.

[CFrance]

How free are we? We're not free when we have to pay for the mistakes that others make. If you can fix it so that people suffer the consequences of their own actions, and no one else suffers, then maybe we won't need so many laws. But I don't see any chance of that happening any time soon.

Basically, people want to live on the edge with a (taxpayer) safety net. So we all pay for the mistakes of others.

I agree with you, VPL. The "free to be me" concept does not work unless you're living alone on an island.

[Steve & Deanna]

Yes we believe in the Bible and yes we have Faith....but could you quote that scripture and tell me where I can find it in the Bible? Thank you.