Navigating a roundabout

[Lauren Sweeny]

I came up with idea to help guide my husband ( the driver) where we needed to exit while in the roundabout.
Look at the roundabout as if it was a clock face. The car is always going in at the 6 o'clock position. You can describe the place to turn (or exit ) as being 9 , or twelve or 3 o 'clock. I hope this helps.

[hampton]

I believe the safe answer for entering and exiting roundabouts should be that all roundabouts be one lane only that way there would be no issue with people turning in front of you to make an exit.

[gomoho]

Here we go again - round and round the round-a-bout!

[redwitch]

I explain roundabouts to new drivers this way: Look at it as a four-way intersection with a log in the middle. You have to navigate around the log. Makes it a little less intimidating and seems to make it a little more understandable for some (plus reminds them to be cautious).

[Bogie Shooter]

Rather than restate the obvious................do a search on roundabouts, for all the answers.

[MikeV]

Just read the sign before entering the roundabout. It is so simple - so simple!

[Bogie Shooter]

Just read the sign before entering the roundabout. It is so simple - so simple!

That sums it up rather well!

[ilovetv]

The first rule about roundabout safety has to be: DO NOT CHANGE LANES ONCE YOU'RE IN the roundabout.

Twice yesterday, while going north on Morse Blvd between Havana and the bridge across the lake to 466, people beside me in the roundabout decided to change lanes once in there, because apparently they "discovered" they wanted to exit at 9 o'clock after choosing the right lane when entering at 6 o'clock.

If I had not been watching them to see they were clueless, I'd have been killed before getting the chance to see the second doofus do that.

One of them was driving the most oversized, black Lincoln SUV that's so big and high off the ground that it could have run right over me in my car if I'd not been watching like a hawk so I could get out of their way. This person (who'd been creeping along like a little old lady) could not have maneuvered a tiny Smart Car safely, much less that giant truck.

[keithwand]

I think I've seen a few trying to exit at 2 o'clock.
Signs?
Who can read those at 45mph?

[rubicon]

I came up with idea to help guide my husband ( the driver) where we needed to exit while in the roundabout.
Look at the roundabout as if it was a clock face. The car is always going in at the 6 o'clock position. You can describe the place to turn (or exit ) as being 9 , or twelve or 3 o 'clock. I hope this helps.

Hi Lauren Sweeny: Whose on 1st?

[skyguy79]

Speaking about round-a-bouts, I read on this forum or Facebook this morning about someone saying something to the poster that relates The Villages to a Disneyland or Disney World for adults. The first question that came to my mind on reading it was... "How did people get the idea that The Villages was a Disneyland for adults?" Then it suddenly hit me how. They spotted Goofy driving through the round-a-bouts! :22yikes:

[rhycoo]

Turn signals help a lot...seems to be a forgotten art with many drivers.

[Indydealmaker]

Turn signals help a lot...seems to be a forgotten art with many drivers.

Turn signals DO HELP, however they are useless if you are trying to signal to another driver who is driving parallel to you. Roundabout drivers should NEVER be in a roundabout directly next to another car. Drivers need to visualize that they are MERGING into a TRAFFIC FLOW regardless of which lane the other vehicles are within. When you merge, you do not do so into the side of another car even if it is in the other lane.

[happy employee]

Sorry that no one can answer your question easily. it's really pretty simple.
If you enter at 6 in the right lane you MUST exit at 3 or 12. If you enter at 6 in the left lane you must exit at 12 or 9. Never change lanes in the roundabout, and cars already in the circle always have the right-a-way. See.. pretty simple when you know the rules

[billethkid]

Turn signals help a lot...seems to be a forgotten art with many drivers.

closely followed by not yielding the right of way.

I have never seen a place where if you put your turn signal on to move over they close up so you can't!

And it does not matter how many different ways how to use a round about is explained.....it does not matter.

I have adopted a complete defensive driving mode for TV and especially in traffic circles. I see near misses almost daily because of rude drivers, road hogs, and like it or not far too many that should not be behind the wheel of any vehicle.

The friendliest hometown as long as they are not behind the wheel.......but please remember most of us do it right....it is the minority that create the problem....it's just such a big minority.

[MikeV]

closely followed by not yielding the right of way.

I have never seen a place where if you put your turn signal on to move over they close up so you can't!

And it does not matter how many different ways how to use a round about is explained.....it does not matter.

I have adopted a complete defensive driving mode for TV and especially in traffic circles. I see near misses almost daily because of rude drivers, road hogs, and like it or not far too many that should not be behind the wheel of any vehicle.

The friendliest hometown as long as they are not behind the wheel.......but please remember most of us do it right....it is the minority that create the problem....it's just such a big minority.

I take it you have never driven on the Garden State Parkway in NJ. ;)

[Warren Kiefer]

I came up with idea to help guide my husband ( the driver) where we needed to exit while in the roundabout.
Look at the roundabout as if it was a clock face. The car is always going in at the 6 o'clock position. You can describe the place to turn (or exit ) as being 9 , or twelve or 3 o 'clock. I hope this helps.

The main problem is that nearly every driver will not use their turn signals when exiting. Too often I find myuself "waiting" to enter the round a bout simply because those drivers coming toward me will not signal that they are going to exit the exit just before me. I assure you, if you would sit where you can observe any round a bout you would find that less than 25% ever signal when exiting.:spoken::undecided:

[getdul981]

Just read the sign before entering the roundabout. It is so simple - so simple!

Not north of 466.

[Indydealmaker]

Not north of 466.

How are Roundabouts North of 466 different than those south? Here is photo of a Buena Vista Roundabout North of 466. Same sign as south. Same 2 lanes.
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[getdul981]

All the ones I remember seeing did not have the 2 lanes indicated. Admittedly, I don't travel up ther often, but I do periodically.

[Bogie Shooter]

So, maybe since your last trip, signs have been erected?

[doccrocker]

:jester: If we work it right, perhaps we can persuade the "powers that be" to NOT sell or rent homes to anyone until they have taken a course and then passed a written and practical (driving) test to demonstrate that they know how to navigate roundabouts. It could be a roundabout endorsement on the driver's license similar to a motorcycle endorsement.


BTW and FYI - Before anyone gets upset w/ me, that's just a joke........sort of.... a little bit..... maybe.

[Bonanza]

Just read the sign before entering the roundabout. It is so simple - so simple!

Sorry, Mike, but it is not simple!
These circles, roundabouts or rotaries are a death trap!
Most seniors do not know how to navigate them because they probably didn't have them in the cities where they are from.
Furthermore, these circles in other cities are often one lane around, not two.
In many cities these roundabouts are being taken out and replaced with 4-way stop signs or a traffic light, because they are dangerous.

Throughout the entire United States, a dotted line means you can safely pass and/or change lanes.
Then you get to the Villages where there are signs which compromise that law.
The signs indicate you can cross (remember -- safely) that dotted line and quite simply -- crash into the guy who is theoretically, going straight.

In addition, if you are going from Brownwood to Spanish Springs, there is no reason it should take a 1/2 hour or so to go about 5 miles.
The roundabouts are nothing more than a danger to residents and gas guzzlers.

I wish they would remove them, but alas! That will never happen.

[Polar Bear]

Sorry, Mike, but it is not simple!
These circles, roundabouts or rotaries are a death trap!
Most seniors do not know how to navigate them because they probably didn't have them in the cities where they are from.
Furthermore, these circles in other cities are often one lane around, not two.
In many cities these roundabouts are being taken out and replaced with 4-way stop signs or a traffic light, because they are dangerous.

Throughout the entire United States, a dotted line means you can safely pass and/or change lanes.
Then you get to the Villages where there are signs which compromise that law.
The signs indicate you can cross (remember -- safely) that dotted line and quite simply -- crash into the guy who is theoretically, going straight.

In addition, if you are going from Brownwood to Spanish Springs, there is no reason it should take a 1/2 hour or so to go about 5 miles.
The roundabouts are nothing more than a danger to residents and gas guzzlers.

I wish they would remove them, but alas! That will never happen.


I would never claim to know it all regarding this topic (or any other for that matter...heheh) but just for what it's worth, I have a graduate degree in transportation engineering, and I worked in the field for thirty years in Pinellas County, Florida.

I would never say roundabouts are simple. They can be daunting for the inexperienced. But to say they are death-traps is a gross exaggeration. And I'm afraid you make some highly questionable statements regarding their use...

Roundabouts are frequently multi-lane, and are often far larger and more complex than the ones in TV.

In many cities, 4-way stops are being removed and replaced with roundabouts. The City of Clearwater in Pinellas County is a nearby example.

Dotted lines NEVER mean that you can change lanes without regard to vehicles traveling next to you.

Brownwood to Spanish Springs is a much farther distance than 5 miles, and however long it takes you to make the trip, it would take longer if all the roundabouts you pass through on the way were 4-way stops.

Roundabouts eliminate unnecessary stops and reduce fuel consumption. When an intersection has the traffic characteristics and geometrics that warrant consideration of a 4-way stop or a roundabout, from a technical point of view, the roundabouts increase the overall efficiency of the intersection in almost every respect.

[Bogie Shooter]

:boom::boom:

[Golfingnut]

I have a lot of experience navigating traffic circles in Paris. After doings that at 40 MPH with multiple lanes, these in The Villages seem easy to me. That said, the average American in not equipped ti maneuver these circles smoothly.

[billethkid]

I know what I am going to suggest is impractical but for ANYBODY who would like to get an education at how effective the traffic circles here ARE NOT and how really dangerous THEY ARE......just sit in your golf cart nearby one where a good view can be had for 30 minutes to an hour.

One will not have to wait long for a horn blowing episode, running of the yield sign, crossing from one lane in front of another, staying in the lane one is driving in (my favorite!!!), a bird flipping event, near misses and much more.

My favorite circle is the one in front of Arnold Palmer CC....and that is because I have been hit twice (two separate occasions) while inside the circle (with right of way)....one by a guy who not only came out of his outside lane into mine but pushed me up onto the center island.....he tried to flee but found he couldn't get too far from my vette, claimed he did not know he hit me....a witness who came up behind us fixed his memory as well as the damage to the car.

Second one, again I was in the circle and a fast moving lady entering the circle did not yield and hit the right front fender she claimed she did not see me (which I half believe).

As a result no one can convince me how safe the traffic circles are....because in our elderly, always in a hurry, don't care attitude environment they are proven to not be. Stop sign would be no better. I am sure we have all witnessed the usual roll through and often not even a hesitation running of the stop signs.

For many reasons one just has to be on the defensive as traffic laws are severely abused, ignored and not enforced in TV.

[Carla B]

If newcomers would get a Villages map and study IN ADVANCE where they want to go, then read the Sheriff's brochure on navigating roundabouts, this would alleviate a lot of stress on everybody.

[Barefoot]

If newcomers would get a Villages map and study IN ADVANCE where they want to go, then read the Sheriff's brochure on navigating roundabouts, this would alleviate a lot of stress on everybody.

I agree that in a perfect world, people unfamiliar to roundabouts would educate themselves. In our world, that probably won't happen. Especially with monthly renters or visitors, who are often in a rush. No use complaining. All we can do is drive defensively and always expect sudden inexplicable moves.

[Indydealmaker]

I know what I am going to suggest is impractical but for ANYBODY who would like to get an education at how effective the traffic circles here ARE NOT and how really dangerous THEY ARE......just sit in your golf cart nearby one where a good view can be had for 30 minutes to an hour.

One will not have to wait long for a horn blowing episode, running of the yield sign, crossing from one lane in front of another, staying in the lane one is driving in (my favorite!!!), a bird flipping event, near misses and much more.

My favorite circle is the one in front of Arnold Palmer CC....and that is because I have been hit twice (two separate occasions) while inside the circle (with right of way)....one by a guy who not only came out of his outside lane into mine but pushed me up onto the center island.....he tried to flee but found he couldn't get too far from my vette, claimed he did not know he hit me....a witness who came up behind us fixed his memory as well as the damage to the car.

Second one, again I was in the circle and a fast moving lady entering the circle did not yield and hit the right front fender she claimed she did not see me (which I half believe).

As a result no one can convince me how safe the traffic circles are....because in our elderly, always in a hurry, don't care attitude environment they are proven to not be. Stop sign would be no better. I am sure we have all witnessed the usual roll through and often not even a hesitation running of the stop signs.

For many reasons one just has to be on the defensive as traffic laws are severely abused, ignored and not enforced in TV.

The Roundabouts are not dangerous. The drivers are.

[Indydealmaker]

If newcomers would get a Villages map and study IN ADVANCE where they want to go, then read the Sheriff's brochure on navigating roundabouts, this would alleviate a lot of stress on everybody.
In today's world Critical Thinkers are extinct. People tend to follow their nose without insight and forethought. When they smash headon into a barrier, thus breaking that nose, it is ALWAYS somebody else's fault.

[buzzy]

I even saw a woman go 3/4 of the way around in the outside lane, but with her left signal on. At least she was a courteous dim-wit.

[coffeebean]

The main problem is that nearly every driver will not use their turn signals when exiting. Too often I find myuself "waiting" to enter the round a bout simply because those drivers coming toward me will not signal that they are going to exit the exit just before me. I assure you, if you would sit where you can observe any round a bout you would find that less than 25% ever signal when exiting.:spoken::undecided:

Less than 25%??? More like less than 2% and I'm one of them!

[fndrbndr]

Sorry that no one can answer your question easily. it's really pretty simple.
If you enter at 6 in the right lane you MUST exit at 3 or 12. If you enter at 6 in the left lane you must exit at 12 or 9. Never change lanes in the roundabout, and cars already in the circle always have the right-a-way. See.. pretty simple when you know the rules

This makes total sense and should be a notice in the Daily Sun at least once a week.

[skyguy79]

This wasn't funny, but I just had to chuckle a little at it anyway. I hope this driver never visits TV! :shocked:

Never seen a traffic circle?? - YouTube (http://youtu.be/Bj_1KcGLwFQ)

[Bonanza]

I have a lot of experience navigating traffic circles in Paris. After doings that at 40 MPH with multiple lanes, these in The Villages seem easy to me. That said, the average American in not equipped ti maneuver these circles smoothly.

You are absolutely correct.
The average Villager is not adept in navigating the roundabouts.

[graciegirl]

I think the roundabouts are fine. What is difficult is a huge influx of folks who are not used to them. They slow traffic and yet keep the traffic flowing. I have seen so many inconsiderate people who think of red lights as only a suggestion that I once again see the clear vision of the planners of my favorite place.

[mickey100]

I would never claim to know it all regarding this topic (or any other for that matter...heheh) but just for what it's worth, I have a graduate degree in transportation engineering, and I worked in the field for thirty years in Pinellas County, Florida.

I would never say roundabouts are simple. They can be daunting for the inexperienced. But to say they are death-traps is a gross exaggeration. And I'm afraid you make some highly questionable statements regarding their use...

Roundabouts are frequently multi-lane, and are often far larger and more complex than the ones in TV.

In many cities, 4-way stops are being removed and replaced with roundabouts. The City of Clearwater in Pinellas County is a nearby example.

Dotted lines NEVER mean that you can change lanes without regard to vehicles traveling next to you.

Brownwood to Spanish Springs is a much farther distance than 5 miles, and however long it takes you to make the trip, it would take longer if all the roundabouts you pass through on the way were 4-way stops.

Roundabouts eliminate unnecessary stops and reduce fuel consumption. When an intersection has the traffic characteristics and geometrics that warrant consideration of a 4-way stop or a roundabout, from a technical point of view, the roundabouts increase the overall efficiency of the intersection in almost every respect.

I have my degree in Civil Engineering, and agree with everything you've said. Roundabouts are a good thing as far as traffic calming and flow, but there is ignorance or disregard of the rules of the road in The Villages as far as their useage.

For the poster who is unfamiliar with Traffic Engineering, it is a specialty subset of Civil Engineering, and is offered at all major universities that offer Civil Engineering degrees. Graduates with Civil Engineering degrees have specializations in a particular field such as Structures, Environmental, Traffic, and so on. My specialization happened to be Geotechnical, but I worked in the Traffic Engineering field for many years. Polar Bear knows what he/she is talking about.

[TOTV Team]

Reminder: DO NOT direct comments at another user. Direct them to the topic. Thank you in advance.

[buggyone]

I came up with idea to help guide my husband ( the driver) where we needed to exit while in the roundabout.
Look at the roundabout as if it was a clock face. The car is always going in at the 6 o'clock position. You can describe the place to turn (or exit ) as being 9 , or twelve or 3 o 'clock. I hope this helps.


Good idea but too many Villagers would be looking at their watches while driving the roundabouts to see where they should exit.

Why not just tell him to take the first, second, or third exit?

[mickey100]

Reminder: DO NOT direct comments at another user. Direct them to the topic. Thank you in advance.

How does one reply to another poster without directing comments at another user? Just curious.

[Bogie Shooter]

How does one reply to another poster without directing comments at another user? Just curious.

I think we need signs and a video and a booklet for correct replies!:duck:

[Polar Bear]

How does one reply to another poster without directing comments at another user? Just curious.

Trust me...there are appropriate ways to direct your comments to others and there are inappropriate ways. :^)

[Bogie Shooter]

And they are?

[annaconner]

Most sensible advice was given a few days ago - left hand lane for turning left, right hand lane for turning right. Both lanes can be used for straight through traffic unless otherwise directed on a sign or the road

[Duvalboomer]

Roundabouts are not any different than a normal 4 lane road (two lanes in each direction) if you are going straight you can do that from either lane, if you are turning right you need to be in the right lane of the roundabout, if you are making a left you need to be in the left lane. The problem comes when people are in the right lane and (make a left) travel 3/4 of the way around the roundabout, this is the same as making a left from the right lane

[ilovetv]

Most sensible advice was given a few days ago - left hand lane for turning left, right hand lane for turning right. Both lanes can be used for straight through traffic unless otherwise directed on a sign or the road

This is correct until for the 15th time, you correctly enter the left lane at 6:00 planning to go straight and exit at 12:00, but some doofus enters the right lane at 6:00 beside or just behind you and at 1:00 decides to speed left in front of you t-bone style, to turn left (exit at 3:00), just as you're about to exit at 12.

It is a heart stopper!!

The only way to avoid that is to use the right lane to go straight, but that doesn't always prevent it either.

[Bogie Shooter]

All roundabout threads are like an echo............the posts just keep repeating.:laugh:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I came up with idea to help guide my husband ( the driver) where we needed to exit while in the roundabout.
Look at the roundabout as if it was a clock face. The car is always going in at the 6 o'clock position. You can describe the place to turn (or exit ) as being 9 , or twelve or 3 o 'clock. I hope this helps.

I said this several times on this forum. People talk about right and left turns. All cars exiting a round-a-bout are making a right turn.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I believe the safe answer for entering and exiting roundabouts should be that all roundabouts be one lane only that way there would be no issue with people turning in front of you to make an exit.

That would never work for too many reasons. But we don't even have to discuss it here because the fact of the matter is that every round-a-bout here is two lanes. That is what we have to deal with. Wishing for something that's never going to happen isn't going to help anyone.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

The first rule about roundabout safety has to be: DO NOT CHANGE LANES ONCE YOU'RE IN the roundabout.

Twice yesterday, while going north on Morse Blvd between Havana and the bridge across the lake to 466, people beside me in the roundabout decided to change lanes once in there, because apparently they "discovered" they wanted to exit at 9 o'clock after choosing the right lane when entering at 6 o'clock.

If I had not been watching them to see they were clueless, I'd have been killed before getting the chance to see the second doofus do that.

One of them was driving the most oversized, black Lincoln SUV that's so big and high off the ground that it could have run right over me in my car if I'd not been watching like a hawk so I could get out of their way. This person (who'd been creeping along like a little old lady) could not have maneuvered a tiny Smart Car safely, much less that giant truck.

Not true. There are broken lines within the round-a-bout. Changing lanes is perfectly legal and can be done safely just as if you are on a straight road. The rules for a round-a-bout are not different than for that of a straight road.

[Barefoot]

This is correct until for the 15th time, you correctly enter the left lane at 6:00 planning to go straight and exit at 12:00, but some doofus enters the right lane at 6:00 beside or just behind you and at 1:00 decides to speed left in front of you t-bone style, to turn left (exit at 3:00), just as you're about to exit at 12. It is a heart stopper!!

The only way to avoid that is to use the right lane to go straight, but that doesn't always prevent it either.

I said this several times on this forum. People talk about right and left turns. All cars exiting a round-a-bout are making a right turn.

The first rule about roundabout safety has to be: DO NOT CHANGE LANES ONCE YOU'RE IN the roundabout.

Twice yesterday, while going north on Morse Blvd between Havana and the bridge across the lake to 466, people beside me in the roundabout decided to change lanes once in there, because apparently they "discovered" they wanted to exit at 9 o'clock after choosing the right lane when entering at 6 o'clock.

If I had not been watching them to see they were clueless, I'd have been killed before getting the chance to see the second doofus do that.

One of them was driving the most oversized, black Lincoln SUV that's so big and high off the ground that it could have run right over me in my car if I'd not been watching like a hawk so I could get out of their way. This person (who'd been creeping along like a little old lady) could not have maneuvered a tiny Smart Car safely, much less that giant truck.

Not true. There are broken lines within the round-a-bout. Changing lanes is perfectly legal and can be done safely just as if you are on a straight road. The rules for a round-a-bout are not different than for that of a straight road.

If seasoned and experienced Villagers can't agree on the roundabout rules, how can we expect visitors and short-term renters to get it right?

Bottom line, if we all drive defensively and with extreme caution, all will be good.

[Indydealmaker]

Not true. There are broken lines within the round-a-bout. Changing lanes is perfectly legal and can be done safely just as if you are on a straight road. The rules for a round-a-bout are not different than for that of a straight road.

According to the sheriff, changing lanes within a roundabout is not kosher. Those broken lines are placed to let you know that a car (within the roundabout) is allowed to cross the "flow" of traffic. ie.; You are inside lane exiting at noon. Car enters from 3:00 intending to exit at your 9:00 (his noon). If your white line was solid all the way through your flow to noon, it would imply that no one was to cross that line. Yet, of course, the guy that entered from your right needs to cross that line, so it is broken.

There is not room or time to change lanes within the roundabout and you can be ticketed for doing so.

[ilovetv]

Not true. There are broken lines within the round-a-bout. Changing lanes is perfectly legal and can be done safely just as if you are on a straight road. The rules for a round-a-bout are not different than for that of a straight road.

NO. Look at the Roundabout Brochure by Sumter County:

On the first page of the color brochure, left-hand column, under "Navigating Roundabouts"...

In red ink it says: "Do not change lanes in a roundabout."

http://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

[Mikeod]

NO. Look at the Roundabout Brochure by Sumter County:

On the first page of the color brochure, left-hand column, under "Navigating Roundabouts"...

In red ink it says: "Do not change lanes in a roundabout."

http://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf
I agree. IMO the lane markings within the roundabout are a problem themselves. The best way to navigate is to follow the signs posted before the roundabout and paraphrased in several posts. Left lane for straight through and left turn. Right lane for straight through or right turn. If you follow those rules and yield to ALL traffic in the roundabout to your left ( that means not pulling into the outside lane beside a car already in the roundabout in the inside lane) you'll be fine.

And referring to exiting the roundabout as a right turn just adds to the confusion out there. Exiting is just exiting.

[Bogie Shooter]

Even more about roundabouts.

[DonH57]

It's Roundabout day here in The Villages.:popcorn:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

NO. Look at the Roundabout Brochure by Sumter County:

On the first page of the color brochure, left-hand column, under "Navigating Roundabouts"...

In red ink it says: "Do not change lanes in a roundabout."

http://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

Well, The Villages can put whatever they want into their brochures. Here is a statement copied from the Florida Motor Vehicle Code:

Broken White Line
A broken white line separates two lanes traveling in the same direction. Once you have signaled, and if it is safe to do so, you may cross this line when changing lanes.

[CFrance]

I agree. IMO the lane markings within the roundabout are a problem themselves. The best way to navigate is to follow the signs posted before the roundabout and paraphrased in several posts. Left lane for straight through and left turn. Right lane for straight through or right turn. If you follow those rules and yield to ALL traffic in the roundabout to your left ( that means not pulling into the outside lane beside a car already in the roundabout in the inside lane) you'll be fine.

And referring to exiting the roundabout as a right turn just adds to the confusion out there. Exiting is just exiting.
Bingo! Make this a traffic sticky.

[Wandatime]

I agree that in a perfect world, people unfamiliar to roundabouts would educate themselves. In our world, that probably won't happen. Especially with monthly renters or visitors, who are often in a rush. No use complaining. All we can do is drive defensively and always expect sudden inexplicable moves.

Exactly. I told my husband when we moved here that, in order to avoid an accident, assume everyone is either an idiot or feel they are entitled to your lane. In other words, drive defensively. Very defensively. I'd rather cede the road and avoid an accident than be right and have a mangled car.

[drdodge]

there are no left turns from a circle,only right turns

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Exactly. I told my husband when we moved here that, in order to avoid an accident, assume everyone is either an idiot or feel they are entitled to your lane. In other words, drive defensively. Very defensively. I'd rather cede the road and avoid an accident than be right and have a mangled car.

Yup, that pretty much it in a nutshell. You have to assume that the other driver is going to do the wrong thing until you see evidence to the contrary. My father always said, "Stop signs don't stop cars". I was riding my bicycle today and some one with a stop sign in front of them pulled out right in front of me. I was anticipating that they might so there was no problem.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Then there's the Quezon City Circle in Manila.

http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii564/Winston1027/tumblr_mhdo5t9Hvc1s2rrsuo1_1280_zps73fe2ff6.jpg (http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Winston1027/media/tumblr_mhdo5t9Hvc1s2rrsuo1_1280_zps73fe2ff6.jpg.ht ml)

It goes from four lanes in some places up to eight lanes in other places. Combine this with maybe the worst drivers in the world, this might be why, after living there for a year, I laugh at people having trouble with our little roundabouts and people complaining about how people in The Villages drive.

You really have no idea how bad it can be until you live and drive in a place like this.

[slipcovers]

there are no left turns from a circle,only right turns

Yes, yes, yes. Roundabouts should be 1 lane and slow down.

[Polar Bear]

For those of you saying the roundabouts should be one lane...are you saying that Morse and Buena Vista should be one lane also? Can you imagine the traffic trying to merge from multi lane roads onto a single lane roundabout?