dog owner who do not respect others poperty

[stroglass]

OK I'm new here in silver lake and we have spent a lot of money replacing our sod and cleaning up our tree .I own a dog which I walk and take to the park several times per day I would never let him use y neighborhood lawns as his bathroom and if he did I would pick up after him and do .There are some who it appears are disable ad they walk their dog using a power chair or scooter fine but this does not mean you get a pass and your dog can use my lawn as its bathroom .
OK said my price pleas be considerate of you neighborhood do the right thing for all
Thanks for letting me vent

[CFrance]

Stroglass, please consider gently confronting the offenders and see if it corrects the situation. Otherwise your irritation will just fester.

Or you could try putting one of those signs in your lawn out by the curb--you know, the one of a dog lifting its leg covered by one of those ghostbuster circles.

[kittygilchrist]

Stroglass, please consider gently confronting the offenders and see if it corrects the situation. Otherwise your irritation will just fester.

Or you could try putting one of those signs in your lawn out by the curb--you know, the one of a dog lifting its leg covered by one of those ghostbuster circles.

I agree with CF on this. Many people do not know or do not care what you are thinking unless you let them know. And many people have no earthly idea why you would object.

[OBXNana]

It doesn't make it right, but if they're in a power chair they may not be able to get out and clean it up. They may need to get one of the grabber type devices with a bag on the end. The dog shouldn't be on any more than a 6 foot leash and the grabber from a sitting position would probably reach.

I always hate to put limitations on anyone that is trying to stay active, but it shouldn't be at the inconvenience of another.

[stroglass]

I wanted to place a sign but my husband does not want to anger any one as we are the Newbies here and still want to make friends and become part of the neighborhood .

[gerryann]

Since they are disabled, maybe they would love an offer of assistance. They apparently are neighbors of yours and may become friends.

Is this a daily occurrence that the dog uses your lawn...or did it happen one time by accident?

My pup occasionally relieves herself again, after having already gone at the house. Since I am not disabled, I pick up immediately.....but maybe this person is unable and would love some help?.....just a thought.

[blaZen]

Let's beat this horse once more!:boxing2:

[hollander]

When i walk my dog Mr Moe at night, I wear my old golf shoes with the metal spikes. After Mr Moe dumps his load i stomp it flat with my metal spike golf shoes, working it into the sod. next I reach into my pocket and drop a handful of grass seed onto the flattened poop, and again work the mixture into the current lawn! mr Moe is happy, I don't need to carry dog poop bags, and the home owner gets a new spot of grass for free! I make everyone happy and feel like Johnny Appleseed!
Soon i hope neighbors will ask for my services!
the Villages Number1 problem is solved!!!!
I hope this old post is helpful! Do you want me to walk over with my special shoes and help you out??

[JourneyOfLife]

I wanted to place a sign but my husband does not want to anger any one as we are the Newbies here and still want to make friends and become part of the neighborhood .



I have been reading in other threads that there is a rule against signs in the yard.

Maybe some others currently living in TV can confirm one way or the other.

[hampton]

To hollander.

And you think that is ok.

[Lovey2]

Let's beat this horse once more!:boxing2:

Leave her alone. She's new...let her vent and get solutions/opinions. Read something else if this bothers you.

[graciegirl]

She is new here.

[Lovey2]

To hollander.

And you think that is ok.

I think that's gross, and last time I read it, I assumed (uh-oh) he was kidding. PLEASE say you are....:ohdear:

[Bogie Shooter]

If you like reading or posting about dog poop............here is one thread. Or do a search on dog poop there are many, many more threads!
Nothing new has been posted yet..........

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/disobedient-dog-owners-105336/

[gerryann]

To hollander.

And you think that is ok.

Actually, I believe he thinks he is funny.....which he is not.:ohdear:

[gerryann]

Let's beat this horse once more!:boxing2:

If these threads bother you...why in the world do you open a thread headed with "dog owner who do not respect others poperty"

[gomoho]

Let's beat this horse once more!:boxing2:

Actually I think this may be a new horse in the barn for us to beat to death - don't believe we have discussed the issue of someone on a scooter who may have a problem picking up the poop!

Although I loved the offer of assistance I'm afraid that would result in encouraging that dog owner to use my yard and my help. Probably not a good scenario.

[ilovetv]

Everybody has a yard of their own for the dog to doo its dump in. If people can't walk or pick up, then they can let the dog doo it on their OWN yard.

And, when out on a walk, the dog should not be allowed on a homeowner's yard in the first place, much less let him be on somebody's grass long enough to sniff out his preferred spot to dump on. I've owned dogs all my life and have never seen a log just fly out of a dog with no sniffing and hunching. Owners know when the dog is getting ready to dump, unless it's sick.

If the dog has to doo it before making it home, they should already be on the street or sidewalk, not somebody's private property and new grass.

[Golf View]

When i walk my dog Mr Moe at night, I wear my old golf shoes with the metal spikes. After Mr Moe dumps his load i stomp it flat with my metal spike golf shoes, working it into the sod. next I reach into my pocket and drop a handful of grass seed onto the flattened poop, and again work the mixture into the current lawn! mr Moe is happy, I don't need to carry dog poop bags, and the home owner gets a new spot of grass for free! I make everyone happy and feel like Johnny Appleseed!
Soon i hope neighbors will ask for my services!
the Villages Number1 problem is solved!!!!
I hope this old post is helpful! Do you want me to walk over with my special shoes and help you out??

I assume you take your dog out at night so as not to be seen. Whose lawn do you allow Fido to dump on, your own? I for one would not appreciate you fertilizing & re-seeding my lawn.

[gomoho]

Everybody has a yard of their own for the dog to doo its dump in. If people can't walk or pick up, then they can let the dog doo it on their OWN yard.

And, when out on a walk, the dog should not be allowed on a homeowner's yard in the first place, much less let him be on somebody's grass long enough to sniff out his preferred spot to dump on. I've owned dogs all my life and have never seen a log just fly out of a dog with no sniffing and hunching. Owners know when the dog is getting ready to dump, unless it's sick.

If the dog has to doo it before making it home, they should already be on the street or sidewalk, not somebody's private property and new grass.

So I'm a little confused about your thinking. Someone is handicapped and using a scooter. They want to get some fresh air and take their dog for a walk and you have a problem with that??? Don't know how those scooters get around in the grass in the yard - I'm assuming (and hoping not to make an ass of us and me) but probably not easy to get around in the yard on that thing. So please let this person and their dog go for a walk and don't denegrade their ability to pick up the poop.

I agree they should not go in someone's yard but would you really have it in the street??? We have lots of resourceful people in TV and I hope someone can come up with some sort of mechanism these folks could use to pick up the poop. I know how much joy my fur kids bring to my life - it is probably multiplied if you are handicapped and homebound. Please have some compassion.

[Bonanza]

Everybody has a yard of their own for the dog to doo its dump in. If people can't walk or pick up, then they can let the dog doo it on their OWN yard.

And, when out on a walk, the dog should not be allowed on a homeowner's yard in the first place, much less let him be on somebody's grass long enough to sniff out his preferred spot to dump on. I've owned dogs all my life and have never seen a log just fly out of a dog with no sniffing and hunching. Owners know when the dog is getting ready to dump, unless it's sick.

If the dog has to doo it before making it home, they should already be on the street or sidewalk, not somebody's private property and new grass.

Since we have no sidewalkis in the Villages,
there is no other choice but to let a dog walk on someone's grass.
Walking in the street is not an option, it is unsafe and
particularly when the sun is out, the street is boiling hot.
We wear shoes; dog don't.

If the owner picks up what their dog does, i.e., poop -- then what is the problem?

Alas! Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world and
there is no single answer that will please everyone.

[Bonanza]

When i walk my dog Mr Moe at night, I wear my old golf shoes with the metal spikes. After Mr Moe dumps his load i stomp it flat with my metal spike golf shoes, working it into the sod. next I reach into my pocket and drop a handful of grass seed onto the flattened poop, and again work the mixture into the current lawn! mr Moe is happy, I don't need to carry dog poop bags, and the home owner gets a new spot of grass for free! I make everyone happy and feel like Johnny Appleseed!
Soon i hope neighbors will ask for my services!
the Villages Number1 problem is solved!!!!
I hope this old post is helpful! Do you want me to walk over with my special shoes and help you out??

I don't know if your comment is a serious one of a spoof,
but regardless of which it is, it's pretty disgusting.

No one will ask for your services. You are forgetting to water your mess in!

[Lovey2]

Since we have no sidewalkis in the Villages,
there is no other choice but to let a dog walk on someone's grass.
Walking in the street is not an option, it is unsafe and
particularly when the sun is out, the street is boiling hot.
We wear shoes; dog don't.

If the owner picks up what their dog does, i.e., poop -- then what is the problem?

Alas! Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world and
there is no single answer that will please everyone.

The problem is...the smell, it attracts other dogs regardless of whether you pick it up or not...the pee, I have several brown spots already where I've seen dogs going, and basically the idea that someone believes it is my responsibility to adjust to the fact that someone is going to use my property as a toilet whether I like it or not. I agree that the streets are certainly too hot for your dogs, especially during the summer. I see poor pooches panting and sweltering in the heat all summer long, on the streets and up at the squares. Why someone would subject their pet that they love to that is beyond me. I suggest driving your dog to an appropriate spot to play, AFTER it potties on YOUR lawn. I've seen an adorable little dog up at the mail station that wears socks...really because it's allergic to the grass, but this might solve the hot feet problem. Believe me, I know I will never get anywhere with this, and have been labeled a dog hater (that couldn't be farther from the truth) but it is the pet owner's responsibility to take care of and make provisions for their pet. Not the surrounding neighbors.

[slipcovers]

I REALLY DONT WANT TO GET INTO THIS DOG FIGHT BUT, I agree with ILOVETV, the owner should let their dog poo AND pee on their own property. Owners know when their dog wants to go out. Why is it okay to use others property but not their own???

[Bonny]

We lived in Michigan and have had dogs all of my life. Never did my dogs go in someone else's yard. They went in our yard. I love animals but I still don't want dogs using my yard as a bathroom. AND I sure don't want someone stomping poop in my yard !!! :rant-rave:

[perrjojo]

Is there anyone out there on this thread that uses a scooter for mobility? If so perhaps you can explain how it feels to loose your freedom of mobility and how a nice ride in the fresh air, accompanied by your dog, gives you a sense of freedom. Hopefully none of us will never know that feeling.
OP, I understand your frustration because I have been in your situation before. Please watch for this person and tell them your concerns. I know you just wanted to let off steam but you will feel even better if you talk to the offending person. My 2 cents worth.

[graciegirl]

The problem is...the smell, it attracts other dogs regardless of whether you pick it up or not...the pee, I have several brown spots already where I've seen dogs going, and basically the idea that someone believes it is my responsibility to adjust to the fact that someone is going to use my property as a toilet whether I like it or not. I agree that the streets are certainly too hot for your dogs, especially during the summer. I see poor pooches panting and sweltering in the heat all summer long, on the streets and up at the squares. Why someone would subject their pet that they love to that is beyond me. I suggest driving your dog to an appropriate spot to play, AFTER it potties on YOUR lawn. I've seen an adorable little dog up at the mail station that wears socks...really because it's allergic to the grass, but this might solve the hot feet problem. Believe me, I know I will never get anywhere with this, and have been labeled a dog hater (that couldn't be farther from the truth) but it is the pet owner's responsibility to take care of and make provisions for their pet. Not the surrounding neighbors.


This problem is just not in the villages. It is in Destin and Coral Springs and Atlanta and Long Island and Possum Trot.... and back where people used to live.


How we deal with it is a measure of our character. Some people like to make issues into larger issues. MOST people are responsible. I say this after living here for almost seven years. I grow tired of the complaining about this subject.


Tired of it. VERY tired of it. I don't have a dog and I live on a corner lot. I like dogs a lot and I am somewhat proud of our lawn. I would much prefer to live where people have pets. It makes them happy. AND MOST dog owners are responsible to all of us. I say choose your fights. What is most important? Living in your neighborhood and having friends, or finding stuff to fight about????


And all this kvetching isn't going to change anybody's attitude, just aggravate them further. I choose dog people over non dog people seven days outa seven.

[birdawg]

Since we have no sidewalkis in the Villages,
there is no other choice but to let a dog walk on someone's grass.
Walking in the street is not an option, it is unsafe and
particularly when the sun is out, the street is boiling hot.
We wear shoes; dog don't.

If the owner picks up what their dog does, i.e., poop -- then what is the problem?

Alas! Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world and
there is no single answer that will please everyone.

Your dog, your problem, Keep them off other peoples lawn.

[Lovey2]

This problem is just not in the villages. It is in Destin and Coral Springs and Atlanta and Long Island and Possum Trot.... and back where people used to live.


How we deal with it is a measure of our character. Some people like to make issues into larger issues. MOST people are responsible. I say this after living here for almost seven years. I grow tired of the complaining about this subject.


Tired of it. VERY tired of it. I don't have a dog and I live on a corner lot. I like dogs a lot and I am somewhat proud of our lawn. I would much prefer to live where people have pets. It makes them happy. AND MOST dog owners are responsible to all of us. I say choose your fights. What is most important? Living in your neighborhood and having friends, or finding stuff to fight about????


And all this kvetching isn't going to change anybody's attitude, just aggravate them further. I choose dog people over non dog people seven days outa seven.

Never said it didn't happen other places, but it didn't on my street where I lived. We respected each others properties. Again, I loved, walked and played with their dogs...they DID NOT poop on my lawn. One of the greatest compliments I ever received was from an old neighbor, that most recently said "I am jealous of your new friends and neighbors" . I take exception to you inferring I am "finding stuff to fight about".
If you're so tired of it, refrain from commenting. Go on to the next post with a title having nothing to do with "dogs", "poop", "respecting property".

[graciegirl]

Topix?

[birdawg]

Never said it didn't happen other places, but it didn't on my street where I lived. We respected each others properties. Again, I loved, walked and played with their dogs...they DID NOT poop on my lawn. One of the greatest compliments I ever received was from an old neighbor, that most recently said "I am jealous of your new friends and neighbors" . I take exception to you inferring I am "finding stuff to fight about".
If you're so tired of it, refrain from commenting. Go on to the next post with a title having nothing to do with "dogs", "poop", "respecting property".

Well said lovey2

[justjim]

This problem is just not in the villages. It is in Destin and Coral Springs and Atlanta and Long Island and Possum Trot.... and back where people used to live.


How we deal with it is a measure of our character. Some people like to make issues into larger issues. MOST people are responsible. I say this after living here for almost seven years. I grow tired of the complaining about this subject.


Tired of it. VERY tired of it. I don't have a dog and I live on a corner lot. I like dogs a lot and I am somewhat proud of our lawn. I would much prefer to live where people have pets. It makes them happy. AND MOST dog owners are responsible to all of us. I say choose your fights. What is most important? Living in your neighborhood and having friends, or finding stuff to fight about????


And all this kvetching isn't going to change anybody's attitude, just aggravate them further. I choose dog people over non dog people seven days outa seven.

I like your "approach"-----I too will choose people over dog poop in my yard everytime.

OP, I also like the idea of greeting your neighbor and offering to pick up the poop because they are on a scooter----I bet you two will become good friends.

Yes, people are more important than a perfect yard IMHO.

[vlm790]

I have a sidewalk in front of my home but people still allow their dogs in my yard. I love dogs but don't have one because I don't want to clean up dog crap. Many people are considerate and keep their dogs on a short leash but others are just rude. There are a certain few people who use the leash that extends and they don't pay any attention to where the dog is or what it is doing. I have asked a few people nice to keep the dog on the sidewalk and I was told that I was an old grouch by one and another told me to mind my own business. I thought I was since he was standing in MY yard at the time. Like anything, there are always some people who can't follow the rules or respect others property.

[graciegirl]

I have a sidewalk in front of my home but people still allow their dogs in my yard. I love dogs but don't have one because I don't want to clean up dog crap. Many people are considerate and keep their dogs on a short leash but others are just rude. There are a certain few people who use the leash that extends and they don't pay any attention to where the dog is or what it is doing. I have asked a few people nice to keep the dog on the sidewalk and I was told that I was an old grouch by one and another told me to mind my own business. I thought I was since he was standing in MY yard at the time. Like anything, there are always some people who can't follow the rules or respect others property.


Well said. They were wrong.

[Mr. Grampi II]

Never said it didn't happen other places, but it didn't on my street where I lived. We respected each others properties. Again, I loved, walked and played with their dogs...they DID NOT poop on my lawn. One of the greatest compliments I ever received was from an old neighbor, that most recently said "I am jealous of your new friends and neighbors" . I take exception to you inferring I am "finding stuff to fight about".
If you're so tired of it, refrain from commenting. Go on to the next post with a title having nothing to do with "dogs", "poop", "respecting property".

Hey... Play nice. I think your comments towards GG are unnecesary . No one was attacking you, her response was a generalization directed towards no one in particular and about character.

I have been coming here since 1995 and lurking on this board since 2008 and living here since 2011. In the early days of the Villages these kinds of issues came out in a letter to the editor, in a column called weed and flowers....

This point is this problem exists elsewhere and has been going on for a long while. The problem is not going away and our character determines how we deal with it.

[FloridaShrimp]

Now I've seen it all! A golf cart was coming up my street, then quickly stopped and the driver let his dog jump out and poop on my lawn. Dog jumped back into the cart and said driver then turned around and drove back down the street. Guess the dog couldn't wait. should be glad that the driver didn't have to "go".

[ilovetv]

So I'm a little confused about your thinking. Someone is handicapped and using a scooter. They want to get some fresh air and take their dog for a walk and you have a problem with that??? Don't know how those scooters get around in the grass in the yard - I'm assuming (and hoping not to make an ass of us and me) but probably not easy to get around in the yard on that thing. So please let this person and their dog go for a walk and don't denegrade their ability to pick up the poop.

I agree they should not go in someone's yard but would you really have it in the street??? We have lots of resourceful people in TV and I hope someone can come up with some sort of mechanism these folks could use to pick up the poop. I know how much joy my fur kids bring to my life - it is probably multiplied if you are handicapped and homebound. Please have some compassion.

I never said the person should not go for a dog walk with the scooter. I said that they should have the dog doo it in their OWN yard. If containing the dog in their own yard till it dumps requires an invisible fence, then that is what they can do. Or they can get a courtyard villa with walled in backyard where the dog can roam free in its own yard and can choose all its favorite spots to go on, and THEN it can go with the owner for a walk, as thousands of people like us do.

And if they cannot pick up, they can leave it in their OWN yard, until somebody--paid or voluntary--can collect it once a week. There were pet waste collection businesses growing in our former community, and I'd bet there are people here, such as dog sitters, who would pick up once a week and take it away.

Here is an article to start with:
http://www.ocala.com/article/20120703/ARTICLES/120709928

[Lovey2]

Hey... Play nice. I think your comments towards GG are unnecesary . No one was attacking you, her response was a generalization directed towards no one in particular and about character.

I have been coming here since 1995 and lurking on this board since 2008 and living here since 2011. In the early days of the Villages these kinds of issues came out in a letter to the editor, in a column called weed and flowers....

This point is this problem exists elsewhere and has been going on for a long while. The problem is not going away and our character determines how we deal with it.

Ahhh...the minions. OK...she quoted my post, it was directed at me, and I have
fine character. She is right in that the subject will never go away.... as long as there are people that dont respect others property and take responsibility for their animals.

[TheVillageChicken]

Since we have no sidewalkis in the Villages,
there is no other choice but to let a dog walk on someone's grass.
Walking in the street is not an option, it is unsafe and
particularly when the sun is out, the street is boiling hot.
We wear shoes; dog don't.

If the owner picks up what their dog does, i.e., poop -- then what is the problem?

Alas! Unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world and
there is no single answer that will please everyone.

I think you mean there is no other choice that suits your agenda. Actually you could let your mutt crap in your kitchen. If you pick it up, what is the problem? Maybe you can pick the turd up by the clean end.

[birdawg]

I think you mean there is no other choice that suits your agenda. Actually you could let your mutt crap in your kitchen. If you pick it up, what is the problem? Maybe you can pick the turd up by the clean end.

Absolutely the best response on this issue

[stroglass]

It not meant just for the people with limited physical abilities it just happened in ,y cars this is what I saw from my window .Everyone who has a dog should take care and not walk on other peoples lawns. As to the guy with the spikes I hope he is not in my neck of the woods .Seems I hit on a topic that has been around a while sort for hashing it up again

[CFrance]

Hey... Play nice. I think your comments towards GG are unnecesary . No one was attacking you, her response was a generalization directed towards no one in particular and about character.

I have been coming here since 1995 and lurking on this board since 2008 and living here since 2011. In the early days of the Villages these kinds of issues came out in a letter to the editor, in a column called weed and flowers....

This point is this problem exists elsewhere and has been going on for a long while. The problem is not going away and our character determines how we deal with it.

I agree with Mr. Grampi. Actually, if Gracie was responding toward anyone in particular, it would have been to the OP. But I don't think she was. I think she was making a generalization, and I agree with her sentiments and her right to express them without being stormed.

[Mr. Grampi II]

Never said it didn't happen other places, but it didn't on my street where I lived. We respected each others properties. Again, I loved, walked and played with their dogs...they DID NOT poop on my lawn. One of the greatest compliments I ever received was from an old neighbor, that most recently said "I am jealous of your new friends and neighbors" . I take exception to you inferring I am "finding stuff to fight about".
If you're so tired of it, refrain from commenting. Go on to the next post with a title having nothing to do with "dogs", "poop", "respecting property".

Ahhh...the minions. OK...she quoted my post, it was directed at me, and I have
fine character. She is right in that the subject will never go away.... as long as there are people that dont respect others property and take responsibility for their animals.

My comment was made in the interest of maintaining civil, public discussion, period. You could have directed your response to a lot of people, I would have responded the same way. I do respect your opinion on this, just did not care how you delivered it.

BTW :Calling people names is kinda high school....I have been called a lot of things in my life but never a minion. I was born and raised in Detroit so nothing you could say would bother me.

No blood, no foul, have a nice day!

[CFrance]

Back on topic... there's no reason why you can't keep your dog off of other people's property. If it's so hot he can't walk on the pavement and therefore you feel he must walk on the grass, it's too hot for him to be out walking anyway. I mean, at some point you would be needing to cross a street or a sidewalk. So if it's too hot for that, you shouldn't be out. Stay home till the late evening or early morning.

As for the guy on the scooter... We had that in our neighborhood in MI. The gentleman chose routes with sidewalks and did not allow his dog a long enough lead to get onto people's yards. He has MS, is on his second dog, and I never once saw that dog take a dump while on his walks. He must go in the yard before leaving home, and the man keeps the wheelchair and the dog moving.

It's about respect for others' property.

[Jayhawk]

Some if not many of these wildlife examples poop in our yards and no one picks it up nor seems to be bothered by it. If the pet owners are picking up, is it really a big problem? It seems to me that simply being courteous by staying as close to the street as possible and picking up immediately after should be workable. And yes, if it bothers you as much as it apparently does some folks, put out the little "bad doggie" sign and I bet most Villagers will move on to a more welcoming neighbor's yard if they are not close to their own. Because they are not breaking any laws or violating any neighborhood restrictions, don't let this issue ruin your day. :wave:

Pest Control for Wildlife and Animals (http://www.wildlife-removal.com/pestinfo.htm)

[blyarbrough]

Mr Hollander.....

Other animals come along and pick up disease and get sick from your fecal matter. Why would you just spread fecal matter all over the yard?? If you go to that effort to spread and step in Dog Poop over and over; why not be clean and safe; just pick up your mess and take it home. I wonder if you ever wash your gold shoes……bet your house smells real good too. Use the Brain God gave you.

Also, if you are disabled, lazy or cannot walk your animals ; why not pay someone to walk them for you…….animals need exercise too.