I Love America

[Golfingnut]

Someone said I love it the way it used to be. So I said I love it just the way it is.

We were both wrong: to borrow a Quote from Dale:
"I love it the way it should be

Now that is using your head for something besides a hat rack.


I have lived for more than 2/3's of a century and (in my opinion) feel I am living a better life today than them GOOD OLE DAYS. We are better in the methods of medical treatment and many ways Everyone is closer to being treated as being EQUAL. When groups of Americans are given a right, I do not feel like I lost one.
We still have need of improvement, but must not go back.

[redwitch]

I am an American citizen. I am also a German citizen. I chose America over Germany a long, long time ago and have rarely regretted it. America is not perfect, she makes some horrendous mistakes and her people have done some awful things. So have most other nations. However, America does learn from her mistakes -- she and her people do what they can to make things right. America tries. This is a great nation and I am proud to say I am an American.

[Golfingnut]

I am an American citizen. I am also a German citizen. I chose America over Germany a long, long time ago and have rarely regretted it. America is not perfect, she makes some horrendous mistakes and her people have done some awful things. So have most other nations. However, America does learn from her mistakes -- she and her people do what they can to make things right. America tries. This is a great nation and I am proud to say I am an American.

:pepper2: I am a 22 year Army Veteran. Ich habe 11 Jahre lang in Deutschland gelebt. Loved it very much I might add. I also agree, that most if not all countries committed terrible acts in the good ole days. We are getting better so must not look back.

[Challenger]

I am an American citizen. I am also a German citizen. I chose America over Germany a long, long time ago and have rarely regretted it. America is not perfect, she makes some horrendous mistakes and her people have done some awful things. So have most other nations. However, America does learn from her mistakes -- she and her people do what they can to make things right. America tries. This is a great nation and I am proud to say I am an American.


Well said--- Glad you came and contributed to the American Experience

[buggyone]

Someone said I love it the way it used to be. So I said I love it just the way it is.

We were both wrong: to borrow a Quote from Dale:
"I love it the way it should be

Now that is using your head for something besides a hat rack.


I have lived for more than 2/3's of a century and (in my opinion) feel I am living a better life today than them GOOD OLE DAYS. We are better in the methods of medical treatment and many ways Everyone is closer to being treated as being EQUAL. When groups of Americans are given a right, I do not feel like I lost one.
We still have need of improvement, but must not go back.

You are absolutely right. A poster in a different thread said he loved America like it WAS. How far back? Before women got the right to vote? Before slavery was abolished? Before the Civil Rights Act?

We, as a country, have gone forward a long ways. Progressive action is needed to go forward and to keep moving forward.

[OCsun]

Someone said I love it the way it used to be. So I said I love it just the way it is.

We were both wrong: to borrow a Quote from Dale:
"I love it the way it should be

Now that is using your head for something besides a hat rack.


I have lived for more than 2/3's of a century and (in my opinion) feel I am living a better life today than them GOOD OLE DAYS. We are better in the methods of medical treatment and many ways Everyone is closer to being treated as being EQUAL. When groups of Americans are given a right, I do not feel like I lost one.
We still have need of improvement, but must not go back.

:agree:

[Topspinmo]

"Progressive action :what:, Wouldn't that be considered "political Views". in other words our way or the highway! Forum Police, Forum Police ZAP! ZAP!

Not to worry no supermen around to reverse the rotation of the earth. So there is no going back except when were all broke.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[buggyone]

"Progressive action :what:, Wouldn't that be considered "political Views". in other words our way or the highway! Forum Police, Forum Police ZAP! ZAP!

Not to worry no supermen around to reverse the rotation of the earth. So there is no going back except when were all broke.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

No, progressive action just means to be forward thinking. There is absolutely nothing political about looking forward and going forward instead of going backwards.

[KeepingItReal]

No, progressive action just means to be forward thinking. There is absolutely nothing political about looking forward and going forward instead of going backwards.

Suppose that might be the reason our country is in such a mess and basically going down the drain. It's saddening to see what is happening to our once greatly blessed country.

[Golfingnut]

Suppose that might be the reason our country is in such a mess and basically going down the drain. It's saddening to see what is happening to our once greatly blessed country.

I see us in better shape than any time in my life. Better medical, better equal rites etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. :MOJE_whot:

[KeepingItReal]

I see us in better shape than any time in my life. Better medical, better equal rites etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.

Maybe you should look at the overall picture of the country and not just what is better for you...

[Golfingnut]

Maybe you should look at the overall picture of the country and not just what is better for you...

The way it is now is not better for me. It is better for so many that don't look like me.

[KeepingItReal]

The way it is now is not better for me. It is better for so many that don't look like me.

Obviously your opinion is the only opinion that matters....

On many, many fronts we are faced with declines and problems that no one has a clue how to solve...or where they will take us down to in the end.

[Golfingnut]

Obviously your opinion is the only opinion that matters....

On many, many fronts we are faced with declines and problems that no one has a clue how to solve...or where they will take us down to in the end.

I love opinions from everyone. Let's just shake hands and say we differ on the direction to proceed from here.

Love
Lou

[rubicon]

This is a difficult question to address given the limitations of time and space.
Advances in health safety, technology etc. are better.
Morally and socially we are rapidly digressing.
Political leadership is corrupt and lacks vision.
Our educational system has failed miserably and the affects of that failure are now self evident.
The federal government over reach is stripping both industry and private citizens of constitutional rights and compromising our free enterprise system with unnecessary and expensive regulations
I love America also and it is sad to see the America I knew disappear before my eyes.

[Golfingnut]

This is a difficult question to address given the limitations of time and space.
Advances in health safety, technology etc. are better.
Morally and socially we are rapidly digressing.
Political leadership is corrupt and lacks vision.
Our educational system has failed miserably and the affects of that failure are now self evident.
The federal government over reach is stripping both industry and private citizens of constitutional rights and compromising our free enterprise system with unnecessary and expensive regulations
I love America also and it is sad to see the America I knew disappear before my eyes.

Well!
You have a way of putting the truth in perspective better than anyone I have known personally. Thank you Rubicon, and since I am on beer number five and more important, I can't recall you ever posting a false post, I bow out of this thread with a sincere salute.

Lou

[KeepingItReal]

This is a difficult question to address given the limitations of time and space.
Advances in health safety, technology etc. are better.
Morally and socially we are rapidly digressing.
Political leadership is corrupt and lacks vision.
Our educational system has failed miserably and the affects of that failure are now self evident.
The federal government over reach is stripping both industry and private citizens of constitutional rights and compromising our free enterprise system with unnecessary and expensive regulations
I love America also and it is sad to see the America I knew disappear before my eyes.

Totally agree......without America standing strong as in the past there is little hope for the rest of the world.

[DaleMN]

Some walk to work. Some carry their lunch. :doh:

[Golfingnut]

Totally agree......without America standing strong as in the past there is little hope for the rest of the world.

Now your both right. Ups, sorry I said I was out of here.

[TexaninVA]

I see us in better shape than any time in my life. Better medical, better equal rites etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. :MOJE_whot:


Well, one huge factor you're overlooking is that, as a country, we are BROKE. The debt is out of control, less people seem to be working, more people seem to be receiving public funds of various types. To cover the shortage, we just print money and pass the bill to future generations. In addition, the level of political divisiveness has increased in recent years vs being reduced. Our presence on the world stage is also much weaker ... ie Russia, Iran, NK ... the usual characters seem to be getting bolder.

I, like you, love America. I just don't like the direction we are headed and am concerned that we will all suffer the consequences at some point in the relatively near future.

[Golfingnut]

Well, one huge factor you're overlooking is that, as a country, we are BROKE. The debt is out of control, less people seem to be working, more people seem to be receiving public funds of various types. To cover the shortage, we just print money and pass the bill to future generations. In addition, the level of political divisiveness has increased in recent years vs being reduced. Our presence on the world stage is also much weaker ... ie Russia, Iran, NK ... the usual characters seem to be getting bolder.

I, like you, love America. I just don't like the direction we are headed and am concerned that we will all suffer the consequences at some point in the relatively near future.
You are correct, but at least for the last 6 years we are getting it right.

[TexaninVA]

You are correct, but at least for the last 6 years we are getting it right.

I think you meant to say that, for the last 6 years, we're getting it left.

[Matzy]

Hi redwitch, we've some in common, the citizenship(s). I can understand your feelings and opinion very well.
To all which are seeing problems right now where we are heading too..... well, we don't know it really.
Yes, nobody is perfect. We are a country with people from almost all countries of the world and we living together in peace. About our debt............????? That is money, yes I know it is important, but I think all what really counts are the people. And these people will fix the problems.

[Golfingnut]

[QUOTE=Matzy;857678]Hi redwitch, we've some in common, the citizenship(s). I can understand your feelings and opinion very well.
To all which are seeing problems right now where we are heading too..... well, we don't know it really.
Yes, nobody is perfect. We are a country with people from almost all countries of the world and we living together in peace. About our debt............????? That is money, yes I know it is important, but I think all what really counts are the people. And these people will fix the problems.[/

Sehr korrekte Aussage

[2BNTV]

Several thoughts:
1. We must look back, to only learn from our mistakes, because if we don't, we are doomed to repeat them.
2. I think the USA surprises everyone, with it's resiliency, and can do attitude.
It's amazing what can be accomplished, when everyone pushes in the same direction.

America has become great because of it's freedoms and the enterprenurial spirit that has made many people rich, and or, well off. Never underestimate what the USA is capable of, when everyone is on the same page.

I glad I got this in, as I am sure this thread, will become political.

Some people sometimes go back to, "the good old days". What was good about the depression, WW2, and people dying from the common cold, as they were no antibotics, etc.

Nuff said.........

[Golfingnut]

Several thoughts:
1. We must look back, to only learn from our mistakes, because if we don't, we are doomed to repeat them.
2. I think the USA surprises everyone, with it's resiliency, and can do attitude.
It's amazing what can be accomplished, when everyone pushes in the same direction.

America has become great because of it's freedoms and the enterprenurial spirit that has made many people rich, and or, well off. Never underestimate what the USA is capable of, when everyone is on the same page.

I glad I got this in, as I am sure this thread, will become political.

Some people sometimes go back to, "the good old days". What was good about the depression, WW2, and people dying from the common cold, as they were no antibotics, etc.

Nuff said.........

Perfect. My point is, that some of the past is Ok, if it worked, but parts of the now are certainly better than the past. Only Rubicon can say it the way we all seem to understand.

[getdul981]

And there's a huge river in Egypt too. De Nile!

[redwitch]

America is not perfect. It never was. Americans can be some of the biggest pains in the rear that exist in the world -- many really do believe they know what is best for everyone else. They can be rude, defensive, arrogant and demanding. They are generous, caring, giving, helpful.

America has been in far more financial trouble in the past than it is now. I don't know if we have a way to get out of mess but I do know that if anyone in this world can survive whatever is thrown at them, it is Americans. It won't be easy; it will take sacrifice by all; it will take both the left and the right working together, but I have faith in this country and its people that it will ultimately all come together.

Stand tall and be proud. This is a great country with some great people living in it. It ain't perfect but it is the best there is.

[Chi-Town]

This is a difficult question to address given the limitations of time and space.
Advances in health safety, technology etc. are better.
Morally and socially we are rapidly digressing.
Political leadership is corrupt and lacks vision.
Our educational system has failed miserably and the affects of that failure are now self evident.
The federal government over reach is stripping both industry and private citizens of constitutional rights and compromising our free enterprise system with unnecessary and expensive regulations
I love America also and it is sad to see the America I knew disappear before my eyes.

Wow. I think my dad said the same things in the late 60's. Maybe the early 70's too. I moved out then and found that I had my own set of worries.

[Doctommft]

I'll take the 1980's, when the economy was excellent, people had jobs, and repayment of the debt was attainable.

[billethkid]

"...before it becomes political..."

The bait has already been thrown!

[Golfingnut]

America is not perfect. It never was. Americans can be some of the biggest pains in the rear that exist in the world -- many really do believe they know what is best for everyone else. They can be rude, defensive, arrogant and demanding. They are generous, caring, giving, helpful.

America has been in far more financial trouble in the past than it is now. I don't know if we have a way to get out of mess but I do know that if anyone in this world can survive whatever is thrown at them, it is Americans. It won't be easy; it will take sacrifice by all; it will take both the left and the right working together, but I have faith in this country and its people that it will ultimately all come together.

Stand tall and be proud. This is a great country with some great people living in it. It ain't perfect but it is the best there is.

Absolutely a perfect analysis of America? Thank you red witch.
I have spent a large portion of my life living in other countries. I feel the knowledge gained from that makes me better equipped to see America clearly. Too many Americans have blinders on and in their hearts believe we have never done wrong. That narrow minded thinking holds us back. I love America and will fight to protect her with all my heart till my passing, but we are not the answer to all earths problems and should keep out of the business of other countries.

[Bay Kid]

I love this country!