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JP
04-12-2014, 07:42 PM
I was recently on a Delta Flight to TV and there was a woman sitting across from me in first class with a "comfort dog".

I'm not kidding!

Give me a break!

I told my wife on our next flight I want to take my comfort donkey with me. Ha. When is all this ridiculousness going to end?

gerryann
04-12-2014, 07:48 PM
I was recently on a Delta Flight to TV and there was a woman sitting across from me in first class with a "comfort dog".

I'm not kidding!

Give me a break!

I told my wife on our next flight I want to take my comfort donkey with me. Ha. When is all this ridiculousness going to end?

Wait a minute....hold on. You're complaining about someone having a comfort dog....but I'm looking at you're picture and you've got your dog dressed in fatigues with an ammo belt??? :1rotfl:

Skybo
04-12-2014, 08:05 PM
I was recently on a Delta Flight to TV and there was a woman sitting across from me in first class with a "comfort dog".

I'm not kidding!

Give me a break!

I told my wife on our next flight I want to take my comfort donkey with me. Ha. When is all this ridiculousness going to end?

Would you be making fun if that person was a combat veteran dealing with PTSD? Just like you can't always see why someone qualifies for a disabled parking permit, you can't always see why someone qualifies for a service/companion/comfort dog.

JP
04-12-2014, 08:07 PM
Wait a minute....hold on. You're complaining about someone having a comfort dog....but I'm looking at you're picture and you've got your dog dressed in fatigues with an ammo belt??? :1rotfl:

It was her Halloween costume.

Unfortunately, she died about 4 months ago.

I miss her every day.

I'm still against comfort dogs.

JP
04-12-2014, 08:08 PM
Would you be making fun if that person was a combat veteran dealing with PTSD? Just like you can't always see why someone qualifies for a disabled parking permit, you can't always see why someone qualifies for a service/companion/comfort dog.

I happen to be quite allergic to dogs. Is that fair to me?

tippyclubb
04-12-2014, 08:18 PM
I happen to be quite allergic to dogs. Is that fair to me?


Normally, I don't get involved with dog threads but I am intrigued how you can be allergic to dogs when you use to have a dog? How did you manage your allergies being a dog owner?

Condolences to losing your beloved pet.

gerryann
04-12-2014, 08:24 PM
I'm sorry you're dog passed.

Please don't condemn someone for having a comfort dog. They are used in many capacities nowadays. They can tell if someone is going to seizure, PTSD as another poster mentioned, etc,etc.

Sable99
04-12-2014, 08:26 PM
When I lived in Virginia, I used to fly back and forth to Michigan with my cat. My cat's flight often cost more than my flight did. They have strict restrictions on an animal flying in the cabin.

Cheetah was approved for the Pets On Wheels program in Virginia. That meant he had a medical and behavioral test so he could visit patients in nursing homes every weekend. His disposition came in very handy when one of our flights was delayed because another plane lost its hydraulic system on the runway. Cheetah entertained all the kids at the gates for over five hours. I can't tell you how many parents thanked me.

I started driving back and forth when I got a second cat.

gerryann
04-12-2014, 08:34 PM
When I lived in Virginia, I used to fly back and forth to Michigan with my cat. My cat's flight often cost more than my flight did. They have strict restrictions on an animal flying in the cabin.

Cheetah was approved for the Pets On Wheels program in Virginia. That meant he had a medical and behavioral test so he could visit patients in nursing homes every weekend. His disposition came in very handy when one of our flights was delayed because another plane lost its hydraulic system on the runway. Cheetah entertained all the kids at the gates for over five hours. I can't tell you how many parents thanked me.

I started driving back and forth when I got a second cat.

Great story. Sounds like Cheetah saved the day! :)

gomoho
04-12-2014, 08:44 PM
Guess that person will fit right in at The Villages 'cause most of us LOVE dogs be they comfort, seeing eye, rescue, mutts, or anything in between. Get over it.

JP
04-12-2014, 08:46 PM
Normally, I don't get involved with dog threads but I am intrigued how you can be allergic to dogs when you use to have a dog? How did you manage your allergies being a dog owner?

Condolences to losing your beloved pet.

I had monthly allergy shots for 14 1/2 years plus oral allergy meds PRN.

She was worth it but if a dog is on a plane and I have not premeditated, it is a big deal for me.

Skybo
04-12-2014, 08:57 PM
I happen to be quite allergic to dogs. Is that fair to me?

That's confusing...but my condolences on the loss of your sweet pup.

Edited: Oh, so you were willing to go through all that in order to have a pet...but you begrudge someone else having a comfort dog on a plane with you, without even knowing their disability?

perrjojo
04-12-2014, 08:58 PM
I had monthly allergy shots for 14 1/2 years plus oral allergy meds PRN.

She was worth it but if a dog is on a plane and I have not premeditated, it is a big deal for me.
If you are on a plane and have an allergy to dogs, you may ask that the person and dog be reseated. Trust me on this..I worked for an airline and know this to be true. We travel with our dog..he goes under the seat (for a very stiff fee). Most people never know he is there. I did once have a seat mate object and I was moved to another seat. It just isn't really that big of a deal. If you truly object, just say so and you will be accommodated.

JP
04-12-2014, 09:04 PM
That's confusing...but my condolences on the loss of your sweet pup.

What I meant was is it fair to me to have an animal on the plane, sitting across from me, that I am allergic to.

People don't eat peanuts on the plane when someone has a peanut allergy.

Are you saying I should premeditate myself to fly in case there is going to be a comfort dog? Should peanut allergy sufferers do the same so everyone else on the plane can enjoy peanuts?

perrjojo
04-12-2014, 09:14 PM
Additionally, anyone may take a cabin pet onboard the plane. The rules are generally that the pet must be less than 20 pounds, be in an approved carrier that fits under the seat in front of you. The pet is not allowed out of its carrier. The fee on the airline I use is 125.00 each way. A service or comfort pets fits many definitions. There are pets for seeing impaired, hearing impaired, epileptic, autistic and PTS. You may ask what service the pet performs but you may not ask what a persons disability is. This is all spelled out in the Americans with Disabilities Act. A service pet may be of any size and weight and does not pay a fee to travel.

Skybo
04-12-2014, 09:15 PM
What I meant was is it fair to me to have an animal on the plane, sitting across from me, that I am allergic to.

People don't eat peanuts on the plane when someone has a peanut allergy.

Are you saying I should premeditate myself to fly in case there is going to be a comfort dog? Should peanut allergy sufferers do the same so everyone else on the plane can enjoy peanuts?

Should a blind person be denied entry onto a plane with his/her seeing-eye dog because someone on the plane might be allergic to dogs? Yes, I think you should pre-medicate yourself if your allergies to dogs might cause a problem with service dogs.

tippyclubb
04-12-2014, 09:15 PM
I had monthly allergy shots for 14 1/2 years plus oral allergy meds PRN.

She was worth it but if a dog is on a plane and I have not premeditated, it is a big deal for me.

Thanks for the clarification. I tip my hat to you for your dedication and devotion while dealing with your allergies.

She's adorable in the picture. Take comfort in knowing you gave her a good home and all the fond memories.

JP
04-12-2014, 09:24 PM
Should a blind person be denied entry onto a plane with his/her seeing-eye dog because someone on the plane might be allergic to dogs? Yes, I think you should pre-medicate yourself if your allergies to dogs might cause a problem with service dogs.

So, should people with peanut allergies premeditate?

gerryann
04-12-2014, 09:37 PM
Technically, you could have had 6 dogs on your flight in cages. 4 in cabin and 2 in business class....and that doesn't include the therapy dogs. So yes, to be safe you should medicate before any flight.

perrjojo
04-12-2014, 09:49 PM
Technically, you could have had 6 dogs on your flight in cages. 4 in cabin and 2 in business class....and that doesn't include the therapy dogs. So yes, to be safe you should medicate before any flight.

You really shouldn't confuse people with facts. LOL. You know the facts..actually it varies by size of the aircraft and there could be even more than you mentioned. Most people don't even notice the pets on flights but trust me, they are there.

Skybo
04-12-2014, 09:58 PM
So, should people with peanut allergies premeditate?

Well, the airlines stopped serving peanuts several years ago because of allergies...but yes, I guess if someone has a peanut allergy, they certainly need to be prepared for exposure, whether it be pre-medicating or having an epi. But we're not talking about snacks..we're talking about people who have a legally designated service animal which they need to have with them vs a person who may have an allergy to that animal. You have the ability to pre-medicate, whereas the disabled person does not have the ability to function without their service animal.

DonH57
04-12-2014, 10:10 PM
The last few flights I've been on still serve peanuts which sometimes I bring my own. No one ever told me to put them away.Only recently I learned I can bring nips on a plane. Who knew.

JP
04-12-2014, 10:11 PM
I don't mind premeditating but I think other people e.g. peanut allergy sufferers, should do likewise.

njbchbum
04-12-2014, 11:32 PM
What I meant was is it fair to me to have an animal on the plane, sitting across from me, that I am allergic to.

People don't eat peanuts on the plane when someone has a peanut allergy.

Are you saying I should premeditate myself to fly in case there is going to be a comfort dog? Should peanut allergy sufferers do the same so everyone else on the plane can enjoy peanuts?

Perhaps if you _*had*_ premedi t ated yourself you would not be this distraught over the needs of another passenger.

Bonanza
04-13-2014, 02:19 AM
The word you all (mostly) are looking for is P-R-E-M-E-D-I-C-A-T-E . . . premedicate . . . not premeditate.

I'm laughing my drawers off!

buggyone
04-13-2014, 07:21 AM
I was recently on a Delta Flight to TV and there was a woman sitting across from me in first class with a "comfort dog".

I'm not kidding!

Give me a break!

I told my wife on our next flight I want to take my comfort donkey with me. Ha. When is all this ridiculousness going to end?

Well, that is part of the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990 and was signed into law by George Bush and amended to make it more encompassing in 2008 by George W. Bush.

Of course, there is a lot of fraud with it as people try and have their pets fly free by claiming they are needed for calming their problems. As with any law, there are those who want to play the system to suit their wants.

JP
04-13-2014, 08:07 AM
Well, that is part of the Americans With Disabilities Act of 1990 and was signed into law by George Bush and amended to make it more encompassing in 2008 by George W. Bush.

Of course, there is a lot of fraud with it as people try and have their pets fly free by claiming they are needed for calming their problems. As with any law, there are those who want to play the system to suit their wants.

You have hit the nail on the head and this is exactly why I brought the whole issue up in the first place.
By the way, in regards to another person posting, my computer corrects premedicate with premeditate. Ha ha . So funny.

Wing-nut2
04-13-2014, 09:08 AM
Flying in the US today reminds me of flying in a 3rd world cargo plane. Dog, cats, goats, cargo, bags everywhere. I hate to fly.

quirky3
04-13-2014, 10:00 AM
I had monthly allergy shots for 14 1/2 years plus oral allergy meds PRN.

She was worth it but if a dog is on a plane and I have not premeditated, it is a big deal for me.

I think the key there is, "If I have not pre-medicated". You can bring your meds with you. You can choose airlines who do not fly dogs in the cabin, or choose a different mode of transportation. A pet owner who is following the airline's policies is doing nothing wrong. Comfort pets make a huge difference on peoples' lives. You might not like it, but you do have multiple ways to avoid them.

BobnBev
04-13-2014, 10:04 AM
When I lived in Virginia, I used to fly back and forth to Michigan with my cat. My cat's flight often cost more than my flight did. They have strict restrictions on an animal flying in the cabin.

Cheetah was approved for the Pets On Wheels program in Virginia. That meant he had a medical and behavioral test so he could visit patients in nursing homes every weekend. His disposition came in very handy when one of our flights was delayed because another plane lost its hydraulic system on the runway. Cheetah entertained all the kids at the gates for over five hours. I can't tell you how many parents thanked me.

I started driving back and forth when I got a second cat.

This little blurb should be in Readers Digest, under "Life in the United States"

Might net you some cash.:024:

BobnBev
04-13-2014, 10:07 AM
Flying in the US today reminds me of flying in a 3rd world cargo plane. Dog, cats, goats, cargo, bags everywhere. I hate to fly.

At least THEY don't make you take off your shoes and belt!!:police::clap2::1rotfl::1rotfl:

gerryann
04-13-2014, 12:30 PM
This little blurb should be in Readers Digest, under "Life in the United States"

Might net you some cash.:024:

Some need to premedicate AND premeditate. Meditation will help you chill.

perrjojo
04-13-2014, 01:40 PM
Just a little side note that some may find interesting. We almost always fly with our dog and yes, he is a paying passenger. When going thru security I have always had to remove him from his travel bag and carry him thru the metal detector. About six months ago they started asking me to step aside while the swab my hands for explosives. Out of curiosity I asked about the new policy. Yup, they have had treats of someone filling the pet with explosives with intent to detonate it later. Jeesh! What will they think of next?

duffysmom
04-13-2014, 03:03 PM
If you read the news you will see that many of our vets (men and women) are being treated for PTSD with animals, mainly dogs. Some adults and children have animals that are vital to their health for many reasons. To callously condemn someone traveling with a pet and assume they are frauds is sad to me.

TheVillageChicken
04-13-2014, 03:10 PM
Comfort dogs do not meet the standard for service animals under the provisions of the ADA. In fact, they are specifically excluded.

buggyone
04-13-2014, 03:24 PM
If you read the news you will see that many of our vets (men and women) are being treated for PTSD with comfort pets, mainly dogs. Some adults and children have animals that are vital to their health for many reasons. To callously condemn someone traveling with a pet and assume they are frauds is sad to me.

Village Chicken is right. Comfort animals are not service animals but airlines will allow them to fly free under certain conditions spelled out clearly in their policies.

In order to travel with a "comfort animal", a person must have a recent letter - on letterhead - from a mental health professional. This is to separate the legitimate from the frauds. All the major airlines have that policy.

The animal must either sit on the persons lap or at their feet - not in a separate seat. Hence, your pet donkey will not be allowed as a comfort -ss.

JP
04-13-2014, 03:28 PM
In order to travel with a "comfort animal", a person must have a recent letter - on letterhead - from a mental health professional. This is to separate the legitimate from the frauds. All the major airlines have that policy.

The animal must either sit on the persons lap or at their feet - not in a separate seat. Hence, your pet donkey will not be allowed as a comfort -ss.

Rats. How about a comfort monkey.

Bonanza
04-13-2014, 05:21 PM
Mr. Moderator . . . . .

Please close this thread!

Villageshooter
04-13-2014, 07:00 PM
i understand the need for comfort dog,,, i luv animals but they are still animals an are not equals on the food chain

perrjojo
04-14-2014, 10:05 AM
Mr. Moderator . . . . .

Please close this thread!


Why?

Bonny
04-14-2014, 10:46 AM
Mr. Moderator . . . . .

Please close this thread!

Why do you want the thread closed ?

CFrance
04-14-2014, 11:45 AM
The last few flights I've been on still serve peanuts which sometimes I bring my own. No one ever told me to put them away.Only recently I learned I can bring nips on a plane. Who knew.

What's a nip?

DonH57
04-14-2014, 12:08 PM
What's a nip?

Those small bottles of alcohol you can put in your 3-1-1 bag. However it's an FFA violation if your caught opening and consuming alcohol not served by flight crews. Just stating.

Patty55
04-14-2014, 12:26 PM
I don't think you need to be a comfort dog to fly. Unless the rule has changed on SWA you need to be in a carrier that fits under the seat, pay your money and behave.

CFrance
04-14-2014, 12:59 PM
Those small bottles of alcohol you can put in your 3-1-1 bag. However it's an FFA violation if your caught opening and consuming alcohol not served by flight crews. Just stating.

Okay. Then I will take them for medicinal purposes only while in flight.

Bonny
04-14-2014, 01:01 PM
Can't we just call them our comfort nips ? :D

perrjojo
04-14-2014, 01:40 PM
Those small bottles of alcohol you can put in your 3-1-1 bag. However it's an FFA violation if your caught opening and consuming alcohol not served by flight crews. Just stating.
You can give your nips to the flight attendant and ask him/her to serve you. Where there is a will there is always a way.

JP
04-14-2014, 02:35 PM
Can't we just call them our comfort nips ? :D

If I could only say what I was thinking.....Better not.

TheVillageChicken
04-14-2014, 02:51 PM
My adorable little comfort dog, Precious, helps me with my @$&&!@# Tourettes. People just love her and just give her snuggles all the time.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Sam_dog.jpg

Her sister, Princess, is not trained, but we love to take her out too. She loves to play kissie face, and people like to tease her and pretend they don't like her licking them.

http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a97635_elwood.jpg

DonH57
04-14-2014, 02:59 PM
That's a great looking comfort dog chicken!

Dusty74
04-14-2014, 03:02 PM
Unfortunately, when you hear about a comfort dog, it may not be for a combat veteran with PTSD. The current fad among the Hollywood crowd is to send a couple hundred dollars to an on-line service that gives them a certificate stating that they need a confort dog and that their dog is so trained. Then they can take their dog with them when they fly around the country preaching to us commoners about driving a car that uses too much gas.

buggyone
04-14-2014, 04:53 PM
It is not only the Hollywood crowd doing that. I met a guy at Lake Sumter Landing who told me his dog (a Boston terrier) was his service dog. I laughed and asked what his dog did for him and he said the dog made him happy so therefore that (making the owner happy) was his service and he could take the dog into retaurants, fly free, into the movies, etc. The dog had a service vest the man told me he bought it on the Internet. The man was proud of the fact that he was scamming the Americans Disabilities Act.

It was a nice little dog. This was last summer on a very hot day. The dog was in the wooden stands at the square. You could tell the dog would have rather been home in air conditioning the way he was panting profusely - but the man did pour water into a little dish for the dog.

Hopefully, the man will read this post and realize how selfish he is being and stop doing this scam. I have very little hope of either.

CFrance
04-14-2014, 05:02 PM
It is not only the Hollywood crowd doing that. I met a guy at Lake Sumter Landing who told me his dog (a Boston terrier) was his service dog. I laughed and asked what his dog did for him and he said the dog made him happy so therefore that (making the owner happy) was his service and he could take the dog into retaurants, fly free, into the movies, etc. The dog had a service vest the man told me he bought it on the Internet. The man was proud of the fact that he was scamming the Americans Disabilities Act.

It was a nice little dog. This was last summer on a very hot day. The dog was in the wooden stands at the square. You could tell the dog would have rather been home in air conditioning the way he was panting profusely - but the man did pour water into a little dish for the dog.

Hopefully, the man will read this post and realize how selfish he is being and stop doing this scam. I have very little hope of either.

There is always some arrogant jack### bragging about how proud he is to have scammed the "system." And there's usually a victim as a result--in this case, the little dog.

perrjojo
04-14-2014, 06:02 PM
I cannot imagine bragging about scamming the system. Any system. Scamming is theft. Would anyone brag about being a thief? I too bought my dog the service vest and credentials online. I never used them. It seemed like a good idea at the time but my conscience just wouldn't allow me to do it.

DonH57
04-14-2014, 07:17 PM
Our dog Bailey is a comfort dog. He makes himself comfortable wherever he goes and thinks nothing about it. : )

CFrance
04-14-2014, 07:22 PM
Our dog Bailey is a comfort dog. He makes himself comfortable wherever he goes and thinks nothing about it. : )

We've had that problem too. 88-lb Comfort Dog making himself comfy on bed after ascertaining everyone is asleep--aka DiagalDog, SprawlDog, SnoreDog.

Somehow I don't think this is what they meant...

Bonny
04-14-2014, 10:31 PM
My adorable little comfort dog, Precious, helps me with my @$&&!@# Tourettes. People just love her and just give her snuggles all the time.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Sam_dog.jpg

Her sister, Princess, is not trained, but we love to take her out too. She loves to play kissie face, and people like to tease her and pretend they don't like her licking them.

http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a97635_elwood.jpg
OMG !!! LMAO !!! :thumbup:

CFrance
04-14-2014, 10:35 PM
Precious may need a bit of dental work soon!

Barefoot
04-14-2014, 11:03 PM
My adorable little comfort dog, Precious, helps me with my @$&&!@# Tourettes. People just love her and just give her snuggles all the time.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/df/Sam_dog.jpg

Her sister, Princess, is not trained, but we love to take her out too. She loves to play kissie face, and people like to tease her and pretend they don't like her licking them.

http://www.oddee.com/_media/imgs/articles2/a97635_elwood.jpg

Precious and Princess, coming soon to a restaurant patio near YOU. :evil6: