Lady in cart runs over bicyclist, Really!

[jebartle]

How could she not know what happened?..Yipsters!..On Paige Place in a green cart...pics on local stations...Sure hope she turns herself in to law enforcement

[philnpat]

It was reported earlier that the side curtains on the cart flew up and caused the bicyclist to lose control. I don't believe the woman in the cart actually ran him over. She obviously didn't give the bicyclist enough clearance when she passed him.

[buggyone]

From what I saw on the video, the biker was out of the golf cart lane basically on the white line. The cart passed him on the right (totally wrong thing to do) and the side curtain flapped or snagged on the bike handlebar slightly and he LOST his balance and fell.

He DID NOT get run over by the cart!

The lady should have stopped but possibly did not realize he fell. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. The young man was not injured in the fall. In the other on-line news site, it stated he was "sore" after the fall.

[Barefoot]

From what I saw on the video, the biker was out of the golf cart lane basically on the white line. The cart passed him on the right (totally wrong thing to do) and the side curtain flapped or snagged on the bike handlebar slightly and he LOST his balance and fell.
He DID NOT get run over by the cart!
The lady should have stopped but possibly did not realize he fell. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. The young man was not injured in the fall. In the other on-line news site, it stated he was "sore" after the fall.
This is an example of how stories get changed and embellished.
Of course the lady in the golf cart should have been more aware.
Hopefully she has now realized she was at fault and contacted officials.
I'm sorry that the young man is sore, but it's good to know that he wasn't run over by the golf cart.

[Cathy H]

To a bicyclist either getting knocked off the bike or run over still could mean serious injury. Hubby "sweaty" who bikes on the recreation trails wearing a helmet, often comes home from biking quite sweaty but complaining about rude or aggressive golf cart operators who pass him too fast or too close, and even curse at him for being there. I worry some day he will be a victim of a golf cart maniac.

[buggyone]

To a bicyclist either getting knocked off the bike or run over still could mean serious injury. Hubby "sweaty" who bikes on the recreation trails wearing a helmet, often comes home from biking quite sweaty but complaining about rude or aggressive golf cart operators who pass him too fast or too close, and even curse at him for being there. I worry some day he will be a victim of a golf cart maniac.

This boy was not run over! In the video, it looks as though he was actually in the street close to the left white line of the cart lane. The lady was careless in her passing on the right in the cart lane.

I am sure your sweaty hubby practices bike courtesy and moves to the far right side of the MM trails to allow carts to pass with enough room to spare.

How about the "packs" of cyclists who are on the streets and blow through stop signs as an entire "pack" without even slowing?

[graciegirl]

To a bicyclist either getting knocked off the bike or run over still could mean serious injury. Hubby "sweaty" who bikes on the recreation trails wearing a helmet, often comes home from biking quite sweaty but complaining about rude or aggressive golf cart operators who pass him too fast or too close, and even curse at him for being there. I worry some day he will be a victim of a golf cart maniac.

Your husband "sweaty" is right. I see a lot of aggression against bike riders and fear for dear friends who ride tandems.

A little patience goes a long way. We are supposed to be retired from major deadlines and compassionate to others after the five decades completed for entry here to lower Paradise. ;)

[GaryW]

Your husband "sweaty" is right. I see a lot of aggression against bike riders and fear for dear friends who ride tandems.

A little patience goes a long way. We are supposed to be retired from major deadlines and compassionate to others after the five decades completed for entry here to lower Paradise. ;)

:BigApplause::22yikes::BigApplause:

[GaryW]

This boy was not run over! In the video, it looks as though he was actually in the street close to the left white line of the cart lane. The lady was careless in her passing on the right in the cart lane.

I am sure your sweaty hubby practices bike courtesy and moves to the far right side of the MM trails to allow carts to pass with enough room to spare.

How about the "packs" of cyclists who are on the streets and blow through stop signs as an entire "pack" without even slowing?

Here we go again :throwtomatoes:

This is about a lady hitting a cyclist,,, how ever you look at it,, her cart hit his bike. Does not matter in which manner. She was wrong, it is a violation and should be ticketed.
I guess if I hit your car with mine and you only got a bruise, then no biggie.

[DougB]

From what I saw on the video, the biker was out of the golf cart lane basically on the white line. The cart passed him on the right (totally wrong thing to do) and the side curtain flapped or snagged on the bike handlebar slightly and he LOST his balance and fell.

He DID NOT get run over by the cart!

The lady should have stopped but possibly did not realize he fell. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. The young man was not injured in the fall. In the other on-line news site, it stated he was "sore" after the fall.

No such thing as a golf cart lane. Well, I guess unless you are on a golf course. I would imagine that a cart has to give 3 feet of clearance when passion a bike just like a car does. But, who knows I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

[tommy steam]

Another reason to have some kind of ID on the golf carts. Flapping side curtains should be securely fastened.

[Happydaz]

Cars own the roads and golf carts own the paths. Whichever is the biggest vehicle has the responsibility to be careful about other types of vehicles in the road. Bicyclists move at 10 to 25 mph so they need to be passed with care. It can be difficult at times for bicyclists when stopping and starting as it is not as easy as it is for cars. Also it can take some time to get back up to speed after stopping and this leaves the bicyclist vulnerable to cars coming up behind them at a faster rate of speed. That is why many groups of cyclists ride through the intersections en masse to ensure they get through in one piece. A large group of cyclists has impact and cars will yield to such a large group. Some motorists really dislike cyclists and think they should not be on the roads. They resent having to move over a lane on streets such as Buena Vista Blvd. Some golf cart drivers are angered by having to slow down for walkers and bicyclists. My wife, who infrequently walks on the MM paths, has been sworn at for being on the "golf path." She tries to walk only on the sidewalks now. As a motorcyclist I can attest to the fact that "Size Matters!"

[buggyone]

No such thing as a golf cart lane. Well, I guess unless you are on a golf course. I would imagine that a cart has to give 3 feet of clearance when passion a bike just like a car does. But, who knows I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

What term would you give to the marked lane closest to the curb that says bikes and carts only? You could be absolutely correct to say "the bicycle and golf cart lane" but that is kind of long. As I said, though, from the video, it looked as though the bike rider was not in that lane when he was passed too closely by the cart in the "bicycle and golf cart lane".

[jebartle]

BUT...I must ask, if this happened to you, wouldn't you have some common courtesy and stop and find out if biker is OK...



What term would you give to the marked lane closest to the curb that says bikes and carts only? You could be absolutely correct to say "the bicycle and golf cart lane" but that is kind of long. As I said, though, from the video, it looked as though the bike rider was not in that lane when he was passed too closely by the cart in the "bicycle and golf cart lane".

[Bruiser1]

No such thing as a golf cart lane. Well, I guess unless you are on a golf course. I would imagine that a cart has to give 3 feet of clearance when passion a bike just like a car does. But, who knows I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

Was someone talking about the "multimodal path"? Where are the "golf cart Lanes"?:posting:

[buggyone]

BUT...I must ask, if this happened to you, wouldn't you have some common courtesy and stop and find out if biker is OK...

"Run over" implies wheels over the body. The cart clipped the bike causing him to lose balance and fall. Should she stop? Of course! Was she careless? Yes!
Felony hit and run with injuries? Overblown, in my opinion. Maybe some kind of misdemeanor and an apology to the biker. I am betting she did not realize the biker fell.

[Ooper]

Was someone talking about the "multimodal path"? Where are the "golf cart Lanes"?:posting:

Golf cart lanes are usually indicated by the white line approx. 3 or 4 ft from the curb on many of our roads.

[Chazz]

No such thing as a golf cart lane. Well, I guess unless you are on a golf course. I would imagine that a cart has to give 3 feet of clearance when passion a bike just like a car does. But, who knows I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

I think you're right about the 3 foot rule. In the case of a bike/cart lane, it is not possible for both a cart and a bike to safely ride side-by-side within the lane and maintain a 3 foot buffer. Therefore, when passing, the cart or bike should pass on the left outside the lane, when safe to do so.

[tommy steam]

One thing for sure. That woman better get a good lawyer. Police chief Chris Mc kinstry said" it's a felony hit- and-run with injuries."