Golf may put you at risk for a back injury

[Villages PL]

There was some talk about Tiger Woods having a back problem and I heard a doctor talking about it on the news. He said it's not that uncommon for golfers to injure their back because the golf swing is not natural. I think he means it twists the back in ways that are unnatural. Throughout most of history, man did not swing a golf club, so we are not designed for it.

It doesn't mean that everyone will get a back injury from playing golf. It just means you will raise your risk for getting a back injury. And I assume the risk increases as we age.

[pooh]

Could be true for some, especially those who are constantly at the driving range or the course, but I know a number of people with back difficulties and they play golf with no increase in pain or problems. They have been given lessons that help them swing their golf clubs with accommodations for their difficulties.

Many sport activities put us at risk of injury....tennis, pickleball, running, baseball, cycling to name a few. Are you advocating that we give up sports or just be careful....;)

[dewilson58]

Drinking causes back injuries too.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

This is news? I had a 35 year career as a PGA golf professional. I have had three back operations, two shoulder surgeries and a knee surgery.

Golf is very hard on the body and the back. Golfers have been having back problems since 1300.

A lot of people don't realize what it takes to play golf at a high level. The average golfer going out using mostly his arms and shoulders to hit a ball 175 yards or so doesn't experience the same problems that better golfers, who used all of their muscles and hit 500-1000 balls a day. Playing good golf is a very physically strenuous activity.

[buzzy]

This is news? I had a 35 year career as a PGA golf professional. I have had three back operations, two shoulder surgeries and a knee surgery.

Golf is very hard on the body and the back. Golfers have been having back problems since 1300.

A lot of people don't realize what it takes to play golf at a high level. The average golfer going out using mostly his arms and shoulders to hit a ball 175 yards or so doesn't experience the same problems that better golfers, who used all of their muscles and hit 500-1000 balls a day. Playing good golf is a very physically strenuous activity.

Very interesting. Since I'm just about getting 175 yards now, I think I will level off there.

[kittygilchrist]

I'll be dipped. I thought golf was gonna be good for me. I had my first round today.


http://www.sportsmed.org/uploadedFiles/Content/Patient/Sports_Tips/ST%20Golf%20Injuries%2008.pdf

[justjim]

Probably no golfer was more fit than Tiger Woods and he has back issues and leg issues. Experts of the game (including Jack Nickalas) believe that the length of golf courses and the lively golf ball may have something to do with the injuries plaguing professional golfers today.

No doubt there appears to be more and more injuries even though today's professional is more fit than those of previous years.

There are ways to swing the golf club that will better protect a golfer but you won't be driving the ball 300 plus yards and that could seriously make you less competitive.

We have not heard the last of these issues.

[Carl in Tampa]

Almost any athletic activity, if played at a highly strenuous level, puts a person at risk for a variety of injuries.

Just getting old puts you at risk.

The official medical diagnosis for one of my back problems is "age related lower lumbar stenosis."

:shocked:

[Barefoot]

There was some talk about Tiger Woods having a back problem and I heard a doctor talking about it on the news. He said it's not that uncommon for golfers to injure their back because the golf swing is not natural. I think he means it twists the back in ways that are unnatural. Throughout most of history, man did not swing a golf club, so we are not designed for it. It doesn't mean that everyone will get a back injury from playing golf. It just means you will raise your risk for getting a back injury. And I assume the risk increases as we age.

I doubt most of us play at a professional level.
At some point in time, games like tennis, pickle ball and baseball become too challenging.
Golf is one of the very few activities people can enjoy into their 90s.
I say "Enjoy your golf!" :MOJE_whot:

[Carl in Tampa]

I doubt most of us play at a professional level.
At some point in time, games like tennis, pickle ball and baseball become too challenging.
Golf is one of the very few activities people can enjoy into their 90s.
I say "Enjoy your golf!" :MOJE_whot:

A few weeks ago I went to the 90th birthday party of a retired Secret Service Agent who I worked with many years ago.

His children gave him a new driver.

He came here fifteen years ago and he still plays golf three times a week and is still competitive.

:BigApplause:

[robertj1954]

There is truth about the golf swing not being natural and can cause back injury. But if you are like the majority and play recreational golf the risk is not so great. Just remember when under trees check for hidden roots and when hitting out of sand traps the risk of injury increases. Enjoy everyday and see you on the golf course.

[Mudder]

Any movement can put you at risk for back problems so why worry about it? Relax, enjoy life, VillagePL.

[Barefoot]

Any movement can put you at risk for back problems so why worry about it? Relax, enjoy life, VillagePL.
Village PL
I think the majority of people think that a little golf will help us age healthily.

However I'm surprised you haven't mentioned pickle ball ...
I hear it's responsible for a lot of falls, when played by novices,
but that may be rumor.

[Villages PL]

Any movement can put you at risk for back problems so why worry about it? Relax, enjoy life, VillagePL.

It seems I can't report what I heard on the news without someone thinking that I'm not relaxing or not enjoying life. I guess that's par for the course. (I don't play golf but I speak golf.)

:)

[Barefoot]

It seems I can't report what I heard on the news without someone thinking that I'm not relaxing or not enjoying life.

When you post something you hear on the news,
most readers probably assume that you agree with the information.

[Villages PL]

When you post something you hear on the news,
most readers probably assume that you agree with the information.

Well, I do agree with the information! But I doubt that golf is the only way to relax and enjoy life.

[CFrance]

Well, I do agree with the information! But I doubt that golf is the only way to relax and enjoy life.
Everything causes something in something. Have a good life taking chances, or live in a capsule.

[Villages PL]

Village PL
I think the majority of people think that a little golf will help us age healthily.

However I'm surprised you haven't mentioned pickle ball ...
I hear it's responsible for a lot of falls, when played by novices,
but that may be rumor.

Someone in The Villages fell backward while playing pickleball and died. You don't realize how hard the concrete is until you fall down on it. I fell down on my side but was lucky because I just got up and kept playing. Concrete is very unforgiving.

[Villages PL]

Everything causes something in something. Have a good life taking chances, or live in a capsule.

I did take lots of chances in my lifetime. I fell down playing pickleball and baseball. In baseball, I fell backward, hitting my head on the ground and got knocked out for a few seconds. On other occasions I injured my shoulder and both thumbs. I wrecked a couple of cars and a motorcycle.

Taking chances and getting injured stops being fun after a while. Although, on April 30th, I rode a skateboard in Walmart, just for the fun of it. :)

[CFrance]

I did take lots of chances in my lifetime. I fell down playing pickleball and baseball. In baseball, I fell backward, hitting my head on the ground and got knocked out for a few seconds. On other occasions I injured my shoulder and both thumbs. I wrecked a couple of cars and a motorcycle.

Taking chances and getting injured stops being fun after a while. Although, on April 30th, I rode a skateboard in Walmart, just for the fun of it. :)

I guess you are making my point, in a way. You rode a skateboard in Walmart for the fun of it. You could have fallen off of it and hurt yourself. You took the chance, had fun and didn't get hurt... A choice you made.

Some things enrich one's life so much you take the chance, mitigating the risks as much as possible. (I don't put riding a skateboard in that category, but to each his own!) Otherwise you sit in a chair for the rest of your life.

[Barefoot]

..... I heard a doctor talking about it on the news. It doesn't mean that everyone will get a back injury from playing golf. It just means you will raise your risk for getting a back injury. And I assume the risk increases as we age.

Any movement can put you at risk for back problems so why worry about it? Relax, enjoy life, VillagePL.

\It seems I can't report what I heard on the news without someone thinking that I'm not relaxing or not enjoying life.

It sometimes seems that you do worry a lot, VP, and keep warning us about bogeymen in the closet.
As Mudder said, we just want you to relax and enjoy your retirement.
I think that golf has a lot of health benefits including fresh air and walking,
and it's one activity that people can do, even with limited dexterity.
My next door neighbor golfs at the age of 92, bless him.
:gc:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Probably no golfer was more fit than Tiger Woods and he has back issues and leg issues. Experts of the game (including Jack Nickalas) believe that the length of golf courses and the lively golf ball may have something to do with the injuries plaguing professional golfers today.

No doubt there appears to be more and more injuries even though today's professional is more fit than those of previous years.

There are ways to swing the golf club that will better protect a golfer but you won't be driving the ball 300 plus yards and that could seriously make you less competitive.

We have not heard the last of these issues.

I have wondered if Tiger's new swing while working with Sean Foley has hurt his back. A certain type of swing is harder on the back then others. I don't know Foley's methods but if he adheres to certain principles he may have contributed to Tiger's problems. Tiger also works out like a mad man. I know people that have been in the gym with him and they say it's simply unbelievable. While you would think that this is good, if certain muscles get too strong they can twist the back in ways that it's not meant to be twisted.
I think that Jack also has a point about how hard some of these guys swing, but then again, sweet swinging Freddie Couple had back problems as well. Freddie's swing should not cause him any problems but it has. Sometimes you just have the wrong genes.
As for myself, I believe that my physical problems came from the fact that I didn't do the things off the golf course like stretching and strengthening that should have been doing. I was very busy running a golf course and when I had the opportunity to play, it was just jump onto the first tee and go. I'd also not play or practice for long periods and then realize that I had a tournament coming up and go out and hit 500 balls or so and spend several hour chipping and putting the day before. Not good after a period of inactivity.
But, backs are funny things. Some people just have problems and I don't think that anyone really knows why. As has been pointed out many professional athletes in excellent physical condition have discs pop out on them. I know overweight, out of shape people that play golf and have no back issues.

[DougB]

?... Some things enrich one's life so much you take the chance, mitigating the risks as much as possible. (I don't put riding a skateboard in that category, but to each his own!) Otherwise you sit in a chair for the rest of your life.

A would-be client went to a personal injury law firm looking for legal representation. But after the man was injured when the chair he was sitting in at the law firm collapsed he sought damages against the law firm for the injuries that he suffered from the chair.
The man took the premises liability case to court and won a $2.2 million jury verdict. The law firm was liable for one-third of the man's total damages award and the retailer that sold the chair was liable for two-thirds.

[2BNTV]

If a survey indicated having sex, would be bad for you, wiould you give it up???? :jester:

Seriously, everything in life invovles risk. You can't live your life, in fear.

Use it, or lose it. :D

[senior citizen]

There was some talk about Tiger Woods having a back problem and I heard a doctor talking about it on the news. He said it's not that uncommon for golfers to injure their back because the golf swing is not natural. I think he means it twists the back in ways that are unnatural. Throughout most of history, man did not swing a golf club, so we are not designed for it.

It doesn't mean that everyone will get a back injury from playing golf. It just means you will raise your risk for getting a back injury. And I assume the risk increases as we age.


That may well be the case for "some", but here is a truly inspirational story about a young golfer.....and her journey prior to playing golf......and out of all the sports, it turned out that golf was the easiest on her body. Plus, I would add that her passion for the sport, no doubt helps her immune system.

Kristy McPherson is a professional golfer who was diagnosed with systemic-onset juvenile arthritis at age 11. She is currently playing on the LPGA Tour. She has said she took up golf because after being diagnosed, she was no longer able to play sports that involved running and jumping -

Diagnosed with juvenile theumatoid arthritis as a child, Kristy is an inspiration to those who suffer from it and serves on the board of directors of the Arthritis National Research Foundation.

When just 11 years old, Kristy McPherson came home from school one day and felt something in the back of her leg pop. She then developed a rash on her body and in her throat.

"It all happened very fast," the 32-year-old pro golfer says. "One day I was fine and the next, I couldn’t walk. My body felt as if I had aged 50 years overnight, and all I wanted was to be a kid and go outside and play."

Finding medical answers for her problem wasn’t easy, because joint pain can stem from many conditions, including fractures, infections, congenital defects and arthritis. It took doctors 5-1/2 years to diagnose McPherson with juvenile rheumatoid arthritis (JRA). The verdict left her reeling.

"My doctors told me I probably wouldn’t be able to play any sport that required running or jumping," says McPherson, a South Carolina native. "Until that day, I had played every sport possible, and it was hard to imagine [an inactive] future."

McPherson, who suffered from severe pain and stiffness, was hospitalized for three months and home-schooled for the rest of sixth grade, as she learned how to walk again.

"It took a few days before the initial flare-up got under control," McPherson says. "The whole 11-1/2 months afterward was pretty painful, but the first 5-1/2 months was the worst until they got me on the right prescription drugs to help the pain."

Still unable to participate in softball and basketball, her dad would carry her to a local golf course so she could ride in the golf cart and watch him play, McPherson recalls.

McPherson then started playing golf seriously her freshman year in high school.

"I had played golf since I was 8, but played other sports too," she says. "Golf was my least favorite of all the sports – but after getting RA, it was the easiest on my body and I discovered a great passion for the game."

McPherson’s skills on the golf course led to a scholarship at the University of South Carolina, and then a spot on the Futures Tour, the training league for the Ladies Professional Golf Association (LPGA).

McPherson, now celebrating her seventh year on the LPGA tour, is a fierce competitor and refuses to rheumatoid arthritis hold her back. She played on the team that won the Solheim Cup tournament in 2009 and appeared on the Golf Channel’s reality show "The Big Break VI."



　


　








　

[Villages PL]

Could be true for some, especially those who are constantly at the driving range or the course, but I know a number of people with back difficulties and they play golf with no increase in pain or problems. They have been given lessons that help them swing their golf clubs with accommodations for their difficulties.

Many sport activities put us at risk of injury....tennis, pickleball, running, baseball, cycling to name a few. Are you advocating that we give up sports or just be careful....;)

It depends on the individual's age and physical condition.

[Villages PL]

This is news? I had a 35 year career as a PGA golf professional. I have had three back operations, two shoulder surgeries and a knee surgery.

Golf is very hard on the body and the back. Golfers have been having back problems since 1300.

A lot of people don't realize what it takes to play golf at a high level. The average golfer going out using mostly his arms and shoulders to hit a ball 175 yards or so doesn't experience the same problems that better golfers, who used all of their muscles and hit 500-1000 balls a day. Playing good golf is a very physically strenuous activity.

Thanks for adding some of your experience as a golf professional. However, I would like to add this: We're talking about elderly people in The Villages, some of whom may have various degrees of bone thinning. Some may have osteoporosis of the spine and not even be aware of it if they haven't been tested. 175 yards would be nothing for a pro golfer but it could be the straw that breaks the camels back for an elderly golfer who has undiagnosed bone thinning. I think it could even be possible to break a hip.

[Villages PL]

If a survey indicated having sex, would be bad for you, wiould you give it up???? :jester:

Seriously, everything in life invovles risk. You can't live your life, in fear.

Use it, or lose it. :D

Everything in life involves risk but we can try to prudently lower the risk whenever possible while still enjoying ourselves. We might choose to enjoy ourselves less robustly. Remember, we're not getting any younger. At some point that reality will set in. ;)

[Mudder]

I'd rather break my hip actually playing golf instead of sitting in a chair thinking I might break my hip if I play golf. I'm willing to put up with the ever present pains I have after playing my sports and at 74 I NEVER think of myself as elderly. In today's world(especially in The Villages), elderly is only a figment of imagination!

[Barefoot]

Sorry VP, I didn't think I was questioning your integrity.
I just think golf is a great game for all ages.
I promise I won't comment on your threads any more.

[Mudder]

I'm done with VP also.

[pooh]

It depends on the individual's age and physical condition.


Well, my 91 year old mother-in-law plays golf with our ladies group just about every week. Some adjustment to her swing over the years has been made, but even with her bad back, she plays and plays well. Her doctor encourages her to keep playing....for the exercise, for the fun, for spending time outdoors and for the best part, dining with the ladies after the game. Her swing doesn't impact her back and if her back has a flare up of pain, she takes the week off or she joins us and just putts.

I would hope that as one ages, they take into account any physical limitations that arise and adjust their game accordingly....and play whatever sport they do with the approval of their doctor.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Thanks for adding some of your experience as a golf professional. However, I would like to add this: We're talking about elderly people in The Villages, some of whom may have various degrees of bone thinning. Some may have osteoporosis of the spine and not even be aware of it if they haven't been tested. 175 yards would be nothing for a pro golfer but it could be the straw that breaks the camels back for an elderly golfer who has undiagnosed bone thinning. I think it could even be possible to break a hip.

I don't know that if you could break a hip by swinging a golf club, but you certainly make some very valid points. Certainly the amount of effort to hit the ball a modest distance is huge for some people, especially as we get older. In my experience older and physically weaker players tend to play more within themselves and don;t over do it. Professional golfers, such as those playing on the PGA tour are trying to get as much as they can out of their swings and some swing harder than they should and put stresses that even their young in shape bodies may not accept.
I'm not saying that's what happened to Tiger, but he does seem to swing very hard ad winds up his upper body against his lower as much or more than anyone I've ever seen.
It's very difficult to say who will have back problems and who won't. I think that a lot of it is genetic. Some people play golf all of their lives and never have any problems. You would think that players that wind up their bodies and swing hard would be more susceptible, but then here comes Freddie Couples. Smooth swinging, easy does it Freddie has had a very bad back history and yet is still competitive in PGA Tour event past the age of fifty. The really strange thing about Freddie is that, in my professional opinion, his is not the type of swing that you would thing would cause back problems, but he has them.
Who know? My advice would be to simply play within yourself. Don't be trying to get those few extra yards. You're probably not going to get them anyway. Swing smooth and make solid contact. Don't try to play with the one plane swing that is so popular on tour right now. That's great for 23 year old kids who work out and stretch every day.
Bend from the hips, not the waist and don't bend over too far. Let your hips turn with your shoulders.
If you spend some time practicing putting, Stand up and start you routine after every putt. Standing in one position bent over putting ball after ball is one of the worst things for your back.
If you do all of these things and still end up with serious back problems, take lots of drugs.

[villagerjack]

About two years after I started playing golf when I moved to the Villages 7 years ago , a shoulder injury I had for 25 years disappeared. Before this, no orthopedic doctor or chiropractor or physical trainer was successful. My shoulder always felt better after playing golf.

[Villages PL]

Sorry VP, I didn't think I was questioning your integrity.
I just think golf is a great game for all ages.
I promise I won't comment on your threads any more.

You once said you put a lot of stress (excessive wear & tear) on your knees do to being enthusiastic about some sport that you liked and you therefore had to have knee replacements. So I find it strange that you, of all people, are against warning others about possible sports injuries that might occur.

[senior citizen]

I found the below information educational for our own family; thought I'd share it.

Below it mentions to do warm up exercises, even before less vigorous activities, such as golf. I guess at our age, if one is going to participate in an outdoor sport, golf would be more leisurely.

NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ARTHRITIS and MUSCULOSKELETAL DISEASES
Do warm-up exercises not just before vigorous activities like running, but also before less vigorous ones such as golf. People who go out and exercise a lot after being inactive all week are more likely to suffer painful back injuries than people who make moderate physical activity a daily habit. Studies show that low-impact aerobic exercise is good for the disks that cushion the vertebrae, the individual bones that make up the spine.

Handout on Health: Sports Injuries
This publication is for athletes at all ages and levels, for people who exercise, as well as for health care professionals, coaches, and others who want to find out more about sports injuries. This publication describes the different types of musculoskeletal sports injuries, how they can be treated and prevented, and recent treatment advances from research. It also highlights risk factors and contains a resource list. If you have further questions after reading this publication, you may wish to discuss them with a health care professional.
Introduction
In recent years, increasing numbers of people of all ages have been heeding their health professionals’ advice to get active for all of the health benefits exercise has to offer. But for some people—particularly those who overdo or who don’t properly train or warm up—these benefits can come at a price: sports injuries.

Fortunately, most sports injuries can be treated effectively, and most people who suffer injuries can return to a satisfying level of physical activity after an injury. Even better, many sports injuries can be prevented if people take the proper precautions.

This publication answers frequently asked questions about sports injuries. It discusses some of the most common injuries and their treatment, and injury prevention. The publication is for anyone who has a sports injury or who is physically active and wants to prevent sports injuries.

It is for casual and more serious athletes as well as the trainers, coaches, and health professionals who deal with sports injuries.

Adult Athletes
To prevent injuries, adult athletes should take the following precautions:
Don’t be a "weekend warrior," packing a week’s worth of activity into a day or two. Try to maintain a moderate level of activity throughout the week.

Learn to do your sport right. Using proper form can reduce your risk of "overuse" injuries such as tendinitis and stress fractures.

Remember safety gear. Depending on the sport, this may mean knee or wrist pads or a helmet.

Accept your body’s limits. You may not be able to perform at the same level you did 10 or 20 years ago. Modify activities as necessary.

Increase your exercise level gradually.

Strive for a total body workout of cardiovascular, strength training, and flexibility exercises. Cross-training reduces injury while promoting total fitness.

Tips for Preventing Injury
Whether you’ve never had a sports injury and you’re trying to keep it that way or you’ve had an injury and don’t want another, the following tips can help.

Avoid bending knees past 90 degrees when doing half knee bends.

Avoid twisting knees by keeping feet as flat as possible during stretches.

When jumping, land with your knees bent.

Do warm-up exercises not just before vigorous activities like running, but also before less vigorous ones such as golf.

Don’t overdo.

Do warm-up stretches before activity. Stretch the Achilles tendon, hamstring, and quadriceps areas and hold the positions. Don’t bounce.

Cool down following vigorous sports. For example, after a race, walk or walk/jog for 5 minutes so your pulse comes down gradually.

Wear properly fitting shoes that provide shock absorption and stability.

Use the softest exercise surface available, and avoid running on hard surfaces like asphalt and concrete. Run on flat surfaces. Running uphill may increase the stress on the Achilles tendon and the leg itself.
What Are the Causes of Back Pain?
It is important to understand that back pain is a symptom of a medical condition, not a diagnosis itself. Medical problems that can cause back pain include the following:

Mechanical problems: A mechanical problem is a problem with the way your spine moves or the way you feel when you move your spine in certain ways. Perhaps the most common mechanical cause of back pain is a condition called intervertebral disk degeneration, which simply means that the disks located between the vertebrae of the spine are breaking down with age. As they deteriorate, they lose their cushioning ability. This problem can lead to pain if the back is stressed. Other mechanical causes of back pain include spasms, muscle tension, and ruptured disks, which are also called herniated disks.

Injuries: Spine injuries such as sprains and fractures can cause either short-lived or chronic pain. Sprains are tears in the ligaments that support the spine, and they can occur from twisting or lifting improperly. Fractured vertebrae are often the result of osteoporosis. Less commonly, back pain may be caused by more severe injuries that result from accidents or falls.

Acquired conditions and diseases: Many medical problems can cause or contribute to back pain. They include scoliosis, a curvature of the spine that does not usually cause pain until middle age; spondylolisthesis; various forms of arthritis, including osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, and ankylosing spondylitis; and spinal stenosis, a narrowing of the spinal column that puts pressure on the spinal cord and nerves. Although osteoporosis itself is not painful, it can lead to painful fractures of the vertebrae. Other causes of back pain include pregnancy; kidney stones or infections; endometriosis, which is the buildup of uterine tissue in places outside the uterus; and fibromyalgia, a condition of widespread muscle pain and fatigue.

Infections and tumors: Although they are not common causes of back pain, infections can cause pain when they involve the vertebrae, a condition called osteomyelitis, or when they involve the disks that cushion the vertebrae, which is called diskitis. Tumors also are relatively rare causes of back pain. Occasionally, tumors begin in the back, but more often they appear in the back as a result of cancer that has spread from elsewhere in the body.

Although the causes of back pain are usually physical, emotional stress can play a role in how severe pain is and how long it lasts. Stress can affect the body in many ways, including causing back muscles to become tense and painful.
　

[CFrance]

You once said you put a lot of stress (excessive wear & tear) on your knees do to being enthusiastic about some sport that you liked and you therefore had to have knee replacements. So I find it strange that you, of all people, are against warning others about possible sports injuries that might occur.
That was from back when she was young and didn't know any better. Actually, some of it was from when the sports world didn't know any better either. Remember the famous people who made aerobics tapes in their bare feet? Who knew? I did some of that too. Now we're older and wiser. Still doesn't mean we have to give up sports. Just adjust the approach to the sport.

[Villages PL]

That was from back when she was young and didn't know any better. Actually, some of it was from when the sports world didn't know any better either.

All the more reason to spread the word. You can realize that you didn't know any better and wish that you had known. And then think, "I'd like to make sure that no one else makes the same kind of mistake based on ignorance." And don't assume that everyone must know by now. That was the point of the doctor talking about it on the news. There's always going to be some people who haven't heard about it.

Remember the famous people who made aerobics tapes in their bare feet? Who knew? I did some of that too. Now we're older and wiser.

Now here's a good example of someone (me) not knowing. Now I stand to learn from you about the problem of doing aerobics with bare feet. I have heard there are runners who like to run with bare feet. Is that bad too?

Wouldn't it be silly if instead of trying to learn from you I accuse you of worrying to much and not being relaxed?


Still doesn't mean we have to give up sports. Just adjust the approach to the sport.

Yes, of course, did I say anything that gave the impression I wanted everyone to give up sports? People on this thread keep repeating that as if I suggested that everyone should give up sports. But there are some people, mostly women, who have osteoporosis and it is recommended that they only do very gentile exercises. That's why they have a special exercise club for those who have osteoporosis. And I wonder, "what about those who may have osteoporosis of the spine and haven't yet been diagnosed." I suppose I am allowed to wonder, am I not? :)

[CFrance]

As usual, you get the last word. I still think you're over-reacting to the news.

[Villages PL]

As usual, you get the last word. I still think you're over-reacting to the news.

There's nothing unusual about the way I reported the news of this in my opening post. It was calmly stated and straight-forward. Nothing was exagerated. But when people put up challenges to it, and I respond to their challenges, then, to you, it looks like I'm overreacting. But, in reality, there was no overreacting. Those who were opposed to it were overreacting.

[CFrance]

There's nothing unusual about the way I reported the news of this in my opening post. It was calmly stated and straight-forward. Nothing was exagerated. But when people put up challenges to it, and I respond to their challenges, then, to you, it looks like I'm overreacting. But, in reality, there was no overreacting. Those who were opposed to it were overreacting.
Like I said...