Do you want to live past 90?

[kbace6]

Drink a little wine and gain a little weight? Hmmmm.

How do you live past 90? Sunday on 60 Minutes (http://www.wusa9.com/story/entertainment/television/programs/2014/05/01/60-minutes-cbs-lesley-stahl/8569511/)

[TheVillageChicken]

Not interested in being a nonagenarian.

[jblum315]

Nope!

[gerryann]

I'd love to if I can be in somewhat good shape and have at least half of my mind left. I watched the show.....coffee, wine, higher blood pressure, gain weight.....sounds like it could be fun getting there.

[redwitch]

Nope, not me. Growing old was never on my bucket list. I'm still not convinced I want to live to 70.

[zcaveman]

Not on my list but I am shooting for 80. 10 years to go!

Z

[TheVillageChicken]

Not on my list but I am shooting for 80. 10 years to go!

Z

I'll race you.

[billethkid]

absolutely YES!!!!!!!!!

My aunt always wanted to take flying lessons....her great grand children gave her a gift certificate for a flying lesson on her 100th birthday.....which she promptly used the following weekend.

When she was down to visit us when she was 97 I was holding her arm going up the steps and taking one step at a time. She asked if I was doing that for me because she said she goes up at a normal pace!!!

I want to be like that at 100.....still too much to do.

[pooh]

Yes for me, too....assuming I still have my health and a reasonably functioning brain...;). Why not?

[Didiwinbob]

No, just is not want I see in my virtual "crystal ball"

[Happydaz]

Absolutely! I love so many things that I could stay interested and involved whether I could dig in the garden or not. I love to see my grandchildren and children too! I would hope my wife was with me all the way. That would be hard to adjust to, if she were to die before me. Still, if I have all my faculties, it would be AOK to live past ninety. I am very interested in living past 110!

[red tail]

I love life. I always have. I loved my work and now I love my leisure time. as long as my health and money is there, im in it for the long haul!!!

[manaboutown]

Friends of mine live where the study is being conducted - in Laguna Woods Village. They recognized some folks in the "60 Minutes" show. A relatively new gate was shown which could only have been filmed within the last two months.

One of my big questions is does an aging person do better in a 55 and over community such as LWV or The Villages than "out in the world"? I believe the socialization and peer support system (outside one's immediate family) which is so readily available in such a community adds to a senior's happiness and longevity.

A large percentage of my paternal ancestors lived well into their nineties, highly functional. On my maternal side no one has lived past 88 to my knowledge. It is the luck of the draw genetically but the factors brought out in the study can make a huge difference.

As for me, I want to go the distance if my mind and body continue to function well enough for me to remain happy and involved.

[DougB]

I want to live long enough to be as big a pain in the ass to my kids as they were to me.

[tippyclubb]

Darn I 'm going to have to quit this wine drinking. 90 is way too old for me plus we might be out of money at 91.

[manaboutown]

If a person really does not want to reach 90 all he has to do is smoke cigarettes. A man I had known since we were both 18 was a heavy smoker, even back in college. He only reached 65 and died a terrible death from lung cancer whereas his father who, to my knowledge never smoked, died at age 95.

[caroljim]

Sure! But like gerryann reasonably good mental and physical health would be a requirement. So far, so good!

[OBXNana]

Absolutely. If I am healthy, have my mind, and am not a burden to anyone, I would like to live as long as possible.

[shcisamax]

Drink a little wine and gain a little weight? Hmmmm.



I've got the wine covered. And for sure I don't want to miss a moment. This isn't a dress rehearsal. As long as I know what is going on, I'm in for the long haul. Too much great stuff to learn about and experience.

[SantaClaus]

My grandfather had great health and acuity til about 94, then spent his last two years in rehabs and hospitals. My father died young. Unfortunately my health and physique are more similar to my father and grandfather. If I make it into my late 60s I'll consider myself blessed (well, I'm blessed regardless, but you know what I mean).

[KathieI]

If I can be just like my Daddy, who passed away 3 years ago at 94, I will be happy to stay around. This man was incredible, he was blind because of mac degeneration but it never stopped him from doing anything. He still played golf, pinochle, bingo, danced all the time with the ladies, and had a tremendous thirst for life and learning. He mastered the computer in his 80's, has a DVD, VCR, computer, printer, speakers to hear Sinatra, a TV set that also was a computer monitor and he knew how to toggle back and forth, and he loved every breathing minute of life. He drank a glass (or two) of red wine every day with dinner and sometimes had a bourbon.. LOL.

Upon going into the operating room for a heart operation (which eventually took his life), he was telling all the docs and nurses about Okinawa and WWII and recollected about everything in his life that he loved.

If I'm feeling that good,,, yes,,, I'll hang around.

Miss you Pops!!!

[PammyJ]

I want to live long enough to be as big a pain in the ass to my kids as they were to me.

Oh trust me, you are there already! Pick another reason why you want to live longer!

[Sable99]

Why not, if you are in good health both mentally and physically.

My Mom will be 90 in June. She is still very active! She does use a walker for long walks and I can barely keep up with her. Everyone is amazed at how much she uses her laptop, iPad, Kindle and cell phone. She is as sharp as a tack. She is just like two of her aunts that lived to their late 90s.

[dah1020]

What for?

[jimbo2012]

Yes, I saw the 60 M show

why not if our health is good I have a many more things we want to accomplish

[CFrance]

Oh trust me, you are there already! Pick another reason why you want to live longer!
:a20::a20:

[CFrance]

Darn I 'm going to have to quit this wine drinking. 90 is way too old for me plus we might be out of money at 91.
Two Buck Chuck!!!!!

[ConeyIsBabe]

Gonna be 76 in July and I'm just hangin' in :sigh:

If'n I'm this good at 90 then I'll be glad to be 90, but I don't tolerate pain very well so old age does not seem worthwhile under those circumstances :girlneener:

[asianthree]

Not interested

[rubicon]

I suspect since the beginning of time man has sought out ways to defeat his mortality and since that time morbidity has been a major obstacle in making it a utopian dream. Also being able to financially sustain a long life fits in. another factor is if you are the last of a family or group of friends. Suddenly your all alone finding that you can't relate to younger family members, friends etc.

Genetics plays a major role. however as one poster wrote if you want to shorten your life "smoke". I agree Six guys that i worked with died just before or at 65 because they were life time smokers. I suppose other bad habits also contribute.

From a personal standpoint I am fascinated by events, technology, etc going on in the world and the thought that I might miss a great invention or significant event in my childrens' lives causes some dissonance

Bottom line is while we can prolong life a bit we really have little control over our demise even if we live an exemplary life following all the rules
but I am going to do my best because life is such a precious gift

[Villages PL]

In my opinion, people who say "no" may already have multiple health issues and/or their retirement nest egg will not last long enough to live a good lifestyle.

But assuming one is enjoying good health and can afford it, why not go for it? You'll have more than enough time (eternity) on the other side, so don't rush it. Soak up as much of this life as you can, while you still can.

To me, 90 is not much of a goal. That's like settling for a B+ when you know you can get an A+ with a little more effort. ;) 100 is the new 90. And if you can make it to 100 in good health, you can make it to 112+.

Anyway, studies have proved that people change their goals as they get older. Ask a young person how long they want to live and they might say 75. Ask 75 year olds how long they want to live and they might say 85. And 95 year olds want just 5 more years. As long as people are not in great pain, they generally want to keep living.

[kittygilchrist]

I have 3 aunts in their 90s who squabble over who mows the yard:
"Now you give me that mower, you had a heart attack last week..."
They're all going to heaven, but God just leaves them here for his entertainment.

[Villages PL]

Drink a little wine and gain a little weight? Hmmmm.

How do you live past 90? Sunday on 60 Minutes (http://www.wusa9.com/story/entertainment/television/programs/2014/05/01/60-minutes-cbs-lesley-stahl/8569511/)

The recommendation to be moderately overweight is foolish, in my opinion. This may be another case of the food industry having influence over a study and inserting their bias. The only time I have heard this recommendation is when it is being promoted by the media (newspaper, radio and TV).

Overweight is a BMI of 25. That's a lot of extra pounds and it would be mostly excess fat. If your waistline goes up to 40, you will put yourself at risk for many degenerative diseases. Studies have been done that show the ideal weight to be a BMI of 18. That's lean. And the study shows that for every extra BMI point over 18, your risk of death increases.

There's no way for the average elderly person be moderately overweight without being overly fat. As you age, you gradually lose bone and muscle. So, to be moderately overweight, you would certainly have a very high percentage of body fat. And there's nothing good about that as far as promoting health.

[2BNTV]

It's all about quality of life. IMHO OR..........

When Abbott and Costello were put in front of a firing squad, and asked if they had last wishes................Costello thought........and...........

Costello replied, "I want to die, of old age".

Besides, what's the rush?

[Villages PL]

It's all about quality of life. IMHO OR..........

When Abbott and Costello were put in front of a firing squad, and asked if they had last wishes................Costello thought........and...........

Costello replied, "I want to die, of old age".

Besides, what's the rush?

Ha! That's funny! Very good last wish. I wish the library would have Abbott and Costello TV episodes on DVD.

[rubicon]

I did review all the posts and the initial question: "Do you want to liv past 90?"
The reality of it all save suicide is that likely out of your hands

[DianeM]

I'm not even sure I want to be 60 let alone 90. I have no control of my expiration date - only God does.

[lovsthosebigdogs]

I like the idea of adding a few pounds and drinking 2 drinks a day being good for you. I have been denying myself that and hearing its not a BAD things puts a smile on my face. I may be too young to do that right now but it sure is something to aim for. Living in good shape to be 90 because of it might be an added bonus!

[zcaveman]

In my opinion, people who say "no" may already have multiple health issues and/or their retirement nest egg will not last long enough to live a good lifestyle.

Or maybe we see that the quality of life seems to deteriorate after a certain age. My goal was 70. Neither parent lived past 72. I think I can beat that now so I set my goal at 80. When I reach 80 I will see if I think another 10 years of good living is going to be achievable and then I will shoot for 90.

Whatever I choose does not matter. The good Lord has already put my name on the wall and will take me when it is my time.

Z

[2BNTV]

If one does not take care of themsleves and be their own advocate when dealing with the medical profession, one's demise could be hastened. Most people are determined by their genetic tree.

Just because on'e parent's lived to be a cerain age, does not automatically mean you will have identical longevitity. With the prolifertion of tests performed in preventive matainence mode, should help avoid serious problems,

Uncle's family:
1. Brother at 99.
2. Sister at 102.
3. Another sister at 104.

He passed away at 99, and still had a survivng sister of 104, and wife.

Wife Aunt V died at 96 two months after him.

Mom passed at 93.

Dad at 77. He was just a kid!!! :D

[senior citizen]

If one does not take care of themsleves and be their own advocate when dealing with the medical profession, one's demise could be hastened. Most people are determined by their genetic tree.

Just because on'e parent's lived to be a cerain age, does not automatically mean you will have identical longevitity. With the prolifertion of tests performed in preventive matainence mode, should help avoid serious problems,

Uncle's family:
1. Brother at 99.
2. Sister at 102.
3. Another sister at 104.

He passed away at 99, and still had a survivng sister of 104, and wife.

Wife Aunt V died at 96 two months after him.

Mom passed at 93.

Dad at 77. He was just a kid!!! :D


LONGEVITA.........Translates to "long life" in Italian.

My older generation of Italian relatives and ancestors also lived to ripe old ages, into their late nineties and late eighties.

There was no cancer at all in my father's Italian/Greek/French family (nor in my mother's Ukrainian family.)

However, those were the generations that did not dine out, but prepared their simple foods from scratch........heavy on the vegetables and legumes.......seafood and meat for special occasions, but not "high on the hog" every day.

**There was no frozen or prepared packaged foods back in their day; no drive up windows of fast food restaurants (which did not exist, obviously).

**Thus, no additives, preservatives, flavor enhancers, colors, etc. and certainly no chemicals.

In doing my ancestry, the ones who died young, either passed away at birth or shortly thereafter.......or in farming accidents.

Other ethnic groups around the Mediterranean also enjoyed longevity or "longevita".

I'm pretty sure the home made red wine (vino) helped keep their arteries open.

They were the last generation prior to everyone having a little colored pill for every body part.......and every minor ailment (with side effects that contributed to more issues and more little pills). We continue to be flabbergasted listening, each evening, to the Big Pharma commercials and myriad of warnings and side effects after a glorious presentation of WHY WE SHOULD TAKE ALL OF THESE PHARMACEUTICALS. They lived long WITHOUT them.

PORTUGAL AND LONGEVITY By James Martin

January 3, 2009

Until a few days ago, Tomar, Portugal was the home of the world's oldest known living human, Maria de Jesus. She attained the age 115 years and 114 days until passing away in an ambulance Friday.

Then comes word that Portuguese filmmaker Manoel de Oliveira turned 100 recently while working on his 47th film in Lisbon’s Chiado district called "The Uniqueness of a Young Blond-Haired Girl."

I figure it's the copious amounts of vegetables found in Portuguese cuisine.

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MORE:

The Mediterranean Diet region includes many countries bordering the Mediterranean Sea including most famously France, Greece, Italy, Morocco Spain, Turkey, as well as other countries in Europe, Northern Africa and the Middle East.

Europe: Portugal, Spain, Gibraltar (British overseas territory), France, Monaco, Italy, Malta, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, Albania, Greece, Cyprus, Akrotiri and Dhekelia, Turkey (partly Asia).

Asia/Middle East: Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq, Israel.

Africa: Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco.

As you can imagine, there is a wide range of cultural and food traditions unique to each country. However, there are still many common ingredients connecting the longevity influencing diets of each country. Durum wheat pasta may be served as spaghetti in Italy, but adorn the plates in Morocco as couscous or be used as a pita in Greece.

Other common ingredients or food items include olive oil, use of fresh herbs, legumes, fresh fruit and vegetables, and mineral rich sea salt.

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I'm sure others among you can add the names of many others who lived to a ripe old age........but thought I'd contribute the Portuguese ones above.

[Happydaz]

The reason Social Security is in need of fine tuning is that people are living longer than ever before. True, obesity may affect this longevity in the future, but right now people are living longer. Modern medicine, often criticized, has done wonders for eradicating or ameliorating many of the diseases that killed people in their youth as well as in their forties and fifties back in "the good old days."

[senior citizen]

Yes, in "the good old days" many women died in childbirth, or else the infant did not survive.

Modern medicine has insured less infant fatalities.....plus healthier moms.

However, some families did live on, even in adverse conditions.
Genetics? Family unity? Faith? Keeping young at heart?

My dad's family was one big merry clan and the door was always open.........the family was huge.........I doubt if they were ever lonely.

Our generation moved away from the cities to the suburbs or even out of state to small towns. We became nuclear families. Our children became everything to us, in our neat tidy modern worlds, whereas in the old days the children had a huge number of family close at hand. A mob of relatives fussing over them.

SO............

Why do some people live so much longer than the rest of us????
The quest to find out is alive and well.............

http://www.bu.edu/bostonia/fall09/longevity/ (http://www.bu.edu/bostonia/fall09/longevity/)
LIFE GOES ON.........for the three families depicted in this article.
Please keep scrolling down to their photos and ages......activities, philosophies on life in general. Amazing folks. A great read.
Very inspirational.......

This is one of the most uplifting family stories I have read in a very long time.

Please take the time to read it. It will be worth the effort and time spent.

It helped me to recognize that the longevity and continuance of certain family lines is hereditary.....for sure.
The comfort they take in being together is wonderful. The quintessential family.........

[Happydaz]

Anecdotal information is certainly very interesting and often heartwarming, but it is not scientific. Many people live longer today because heart disease, cancer, and other disases are being controlled better than they were in the past. Many men and women who would have died in the past are now living into their eighties and nineties. Look around The Villages and you will see many senior citizens leading healthy, active lives. It certainly is interesting to hear that "Gramps" who came from the "old country" and smoked a pack of unfiltered camels a day lived to be ninety one, but that doesn't mean that the average person back then lived as long as they do today. Healthy eating habits and exercise can add to this good, modern medical care. I am very glad that I am living today rather than back fifty years ago.

[senior citizen]

What came first? The chicken or the egg?
Why does everyone need meds today?
It literally begins in childhood with the American diet.

Katie Couric had an interesting show this afternoon, May 8, 2014 re "FED UP" which premiered at Sundance Film Festival.

The film upends the conventional wisdom of why we gain weight and lays bare the misinformation put forth on how to lose it.

It reveals that far more of the American public gets sick from what they eat than anyone realized.

The film traces the history of processed foods adding dangerous levels of sugar and sweeteners to their roster of ingredients. (It began in the late 1970s with the rise of low-fat foods and has intensified since then.)

With the film's acquisition, Couric hopes, will come amended personal habits and public policies.


'''GENERATIONS OF KIDS WILL LIVE SHORTER LIVES THAN THEIR PARENTS'''


'Fed Up'

The premise: Unflattering documentary about the American food industry suggests that today’s children will have shorter lives than their parents because of their diets.

Directed by: Stephanie Soechtig
Length: 1 hour, 32 minutes
Rated: PG for mature themes, smoking and language.

GEOFF BERKSHIRE, VARIETY: ★★★ Accessibility trumps artistry in "Fed Up," a formulaic and functional documentary that nevertheless proves effective at getting the message out about America’s addiction to unhealthy food. Focusing specifically on childhood obesity, the insidious practices of big food companies and the lack of political will to address the problems, Stephanie Soechtig’s film is the latest in a long line of call-to-action docs following in the footsteps of "An Inconvenient Truth" (and boasts that film’s executive producer, Laurie David, to boot). Slick execution and big-name participants, including narrator Katie Couric and an interview with former President Bill Clinton, put the pic in prime position to become one of the year’s highest-profile commercial docs.
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PARK CITY, Utah - Katie Couric is fed up.

Like the title of the documentary she executive produced and narrated at Sundance, Couric is angry about the global epidemic of childhood obesity and the government's role in its spread.

"The amount of attention paid to public health is minuscule compared to the amount of attention the government pays to promoting U.S. agriculture," says Couric.

One of the most talked-about films at Sundance, Fed Up is described as the film the food industry doesn't want people to see.

It could be the movie that will change the way people think about eating.
The documentary details how, since the U.S. government issued its first dietary guideline 30 years ago, the rate of obesity has skyrocketed. Generations of kids will live shorter lives than their parents.

The film upends the conventional wisdom of why we gain weight and lays bare the misinformation put forth on how to lose it. It reveals that far more of the American public gets sick from what they eat than anyone realized.

The film traces the history of processed foods adding dangerous levels of sugar and sweeteners to their roster of ingredients. (It began in the late 1970s with the rise of low-fat foods and has intensified since then.)
With the film's acquisition, Couric hopes, will come amended personal habits and public policies.

"We'd like to see this shown in schools, in parent meetings, PTAs," says Couric. "I think it will change the way people buy food. It will change the way they consume food and it will change the way they think about food. And I think that is what's going to be required to really start dealing with this issue."

The hope is that a shift can occur, as has happened in other health and safety arena.

"We want people to see that there's hope," says Soechtig. "This can be fixed. We have these food fighters who are making differences on a local level. If we use tobacco as an example this is not as far-fetched as the food industry is portraying it. Look at seat-belt laws and car-seat laws. It happened before. It can happen now."

Doctors bemoan the rise of adult-onset diabetes in young children, as well as children suffering strokes and heart attacks at a very young age, due to their excessive intake of sugar.

Fed Up lays bare a decades-long misinformation campaign orchestrated by Big Food and aided and abetted by the U.S. government.

"How can you set dietary guidelines and also be responsible for promoting U.S. agriculture, especially when some of that agriculture means unhealthy products," Couric asked. "Whoever set that up probably did not realize that you could not serve two masters in that way."
　
　
　

[Villages PL]

I did review all the posts and the initial question: "Do you want to liv past 90?"
The reality of it all save suicide is that likely out of your hands

I suppose it depends on how you look at it. If you look at one individual, whether he/she lives a healhy lifestyle or not, there's no way you can pinpoint how long that person will live. Someone who seems to live a healthy lifestyle may die at a younger than expected age and visa versa.

But when you look at various studies of large groups of people, who live different lifestyles, you will see some informative differences. For example, the life expectancy of Mexicans is quite different than the life expectancy of the Japanese. Mexico has a world life expectancy ranking of 63. Japan has a world life expectancy ranking of 1.

So if you want to live longer, your chances will likely be better if you adopt a Japanese lifestyle. And you could find out the details of such a lifestyle by reading The Okinawa Program. Seventh Day Adventists have a ten year longer lifespan than the average American. They are vegans and vegitarians.