Snow birds gone

[Happinow]

I know all of the money that the snow birds bring to our community but I have to breathe a sigh of relief now that they are gone. It's nothing against them personally, but I really like being able to eat at a restaurant, travel the roads without too much traffic and shop more comfortably in the stores. It's kinda like our vacation now. Does anyone else feel the same?

[Bogie Shooter]

I feel we spend too much time bashing the snow birds.

[gomoho]

I feel exactly that way, but am afraid the new normal will be like snowbird season all year around TV as more and more houses are built and occupied. I can tell an increase this May from last May which accounts for the thousands sold last year.

[onslowe]

I shy away from negativity toward the snowbirds. They own homes like us and they pay year round for goods and services they only use part time.

However, I agree with Gomoho's post. In my opinion, this wonderful place has become a serious vacation rental destination year round, and that is a real problem. I come from a vacation/resort area on Long Island, NY. I saw, year after year, the problems attending the "I'm paying good money for this vacation - so watch out" attitude. Increased year round traffic, ignorance or negligence in driving, impatience and rudeness and all too often an obnoxious and mistaken sense of 'entitlement.'

[ilovetv]

I'd much rather be in some mild TV traffic in the sunshine and 70 degrees than to be driving on ice and trying to stay behind a salt and sand truck while the windshield washer fluid has gone dry!

As for restaurant crowding, I'm getting tired of large groups that seem to not know that a dining room is not a banquet facility. Break the group up into foursomes when dining so that half the dining area is not tied up for 2 hours by a group of 22, or reserve a banquet/party room somewhere.

[Cedwards38]

Is it a veriafible hypothesis that the number of snowbirds is inversely proportionate to the number of lovebugs?

Everywhere you look in The Villages now it's sex, sex, sex.

[TheVillageChicken]

In my neighborhood, it also means they took their snowdogs with them.

[dewilson58]

I feel we spend too much time bashing the snow birds.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[mixsonci]

I feel we spend too much time bashing the snow birds.

I don't think she was bashing them, she is just enjoying the peace and quiet. Sort of like the quiet after the Holiday rush. Time to breathe

[njbchbum]

I'd much rather be in some mild TV traffic in the sunshine and 70 degrees than to be driving on ice and trying to stay behind a salt and sand truck while the windshield washer fluid has gone dry!

As for restaurant crowding, I'm getting tired of large groups that seem to not know that a dining room is not a banquet facility. Break the group up into foursomes when dining so that half the dining area is not tied up for 2 hours by a group of 22, or reserve a banquet/party room somewhere.

LOL
I've often wondered why it is okay to golf together in foursomes but not dine as foursomes!

[njbchbum]

I shy away from negativity toward the snowbirds. They own homes like us and they pay year round for goods and services they only use part time.

However, I agree with Gomoho's post. In my opinion, this wonderful place has become a serious vacation rental destination year round, and that is a real problem. I come from a vacation/resort area on Long Island, NY. I saw, year after year, the problems attending the "I'm paying good money for this vacation - so watch out" attitude. Increased year round traffic, ignorance or negligence in driving, impatience and rudeness and all too often an obnoxious and mistaken sense of 'entitlement.'

And then there is the other side of that 'entitlement' coin - the folks who believe that because they are the year-round residents - they are the folks who are entitled to go first, etc.

As a permanent resident of a vacation destination and a villages snowbird I have met more than my share of both sort of folks! Just glad I'm not in a rush to go anywhere! :)

[EnglishJW]

And then there is the other side of that 'entitlement' coin - the folks who believe that because they are the year-round residents - they are the folks who are entitled to go first, etc.

As a permanent resident of a vacation destination and a villages snowbird I have met more than my share of both sort of folks! Just glad I'm not in a rush to go anywhere! :)

Nice post - well said.

[dewilson58]

I'm thankful for the $150,000,000 the Snowbirds pump into TV every year.

It pays for a lot of what we all enjoy.

Thank you S-birds!!!

[perrjojo]

I don't think she was bashing them, she is just enjoying the peace and quiet. Sort of like the quiet after the Holiday rush. Time to breathe
:bigbow: I agree. I love my Snowbird neighbors and friends. The slower summer pace is nice too.

[Mr.Big]

Love me or hate me; this big snowbird will be back Jan.-March 2015! I love The Villages.:a040:

[janmcn]

The snow birds are the lucky ones. They get to drive/fly off somewhere and get good medical care, eat in upscale restaurants, shop in top shelf stores, while full time residents are stuck here picking love bugs out of their teeth.

[justjim]

And then there is the other side of that 'entitlement' coin - the folks who believe that because they are the year-round residents - they are the folks who are entitled to go first, etc.

As a permanent resident of a vacation destination and a villages snowbird I have met more than my share of both sort of folks! Just glad I'm not in a rush to go anywhere! :)

Amen about "not in a rush to go anywhere"----life is too short so enjoy! unfortunately, we can't go back to the way TV was 10 years ago. With or without snowbirds, and snowflakes (I think they come in the winter and rent) brace for more people and more traffic.

Large groups at TV restaurants are very noisy and sometimes down right obnoxious. Most restaurants are not prepared for large groups. We are thinking twice about going out to dinner with a group that size unless they breakup into a small groups at the restaurant.

It's difficult to even have a "decent" conversation because there seems to be three or four who try to laugh the loudest or "mouth" the most for attention. :boxing2: :blahblahblah:

[philnpat]

I know all of the money that the snow birds bring to our community but I have to breathe a sigh of relief now that they are gone. It's nothing against them personally, but I really like being able to eat at a restaurant, travel the roads without too much traffic and shop more comfortably in the stores. It's kinda like our vacation now. Does anyone else feel the same?

We're heading North for the summer months...returning Labor day where we'll be clogging restaurants and glomming up tee times.

[dewilson58]

We're heading North for the summer months...returning Labor day where we'll be clogging restaurants and glomming up tee times.

Safe Travels!!!

Look forward to when you return to TV.

:ho::ho::ho:

[Modigliani]

If those hundreds of houses that are being built in TV were occupied by all year round residents you might be wishing you had the Snowbirds back since they aren't there year round - just saying.

[Jaggy]

If those hundreds of houses that are being built in TV were occupied by all year round residents you might be wishing you had the Snowbirds back since they aren't there year round - just saying.

Best reply I read in the entire thread,Modigliani !!
I hate to see the snowbirds leave only because I know the heat /humidity will be here daily.. I treat Summer in TV as my winter and stay in the AC as much as possible.

[BarryRX]

I know all of the money that the snow birds bring to our community but I have to breathe a sigh of relief now that they are gone. It's nothing against them personally, but I really like being able to eat at a restaurant, travel the roads without too much traffic and shop more comfortably in the stores. It's kinda like our vacation now. Does anyone else feel the same?

I can't believe all the people who think this is bashing snowbirds. I love my snowbird neighbors! But yesterday I was enjoying the quiet and the reduction in traffic. Saying that there is a difference here when the snowbirds leave is not bashing. It's just enjoying two very different situations in different ways. I love the energy when they are here, and I love the quiet when they're gone.

[Happinow]

I feel we spend too much time bashing the snow birds.

I think you've misinterpreted my post. I was just saying that after all of the hustle and bustle with so many "extra" people in our communities, it felt good to get back to some sort of normal. I am appreciative of how much more calm it has gotten.

[Happinow]

I don't think she was bashing them, she is just enjoying the peace and quiet. Sort of like the quiet after the Holiday rush. Time to breathe

Thank you for clarifying this for me. I wasn't bashing anybody. It's off putting that some tend to interpret innocent posts as negative ones.

[BnCinME]

I feel we spend too much time bashing the snow birds.

:bigbow:

[Happinow]

Love me or hate me; this big snowbird will be back Jan.-March 2015! I love The Villages.:a040:

Mr.big....we love ya. You are welcome back anytime. In the mean time we are enjoying the calmer presence on the villages.

[Jamescarriker]

I'm thrilled they are gone, and like you said you can drive and eat out in peace now. :bigbow:

[mrsanborn]

I love snowbirds. They taste like chicken.

[gomoho]

Thank you for clarifying this for me. I wasn't bashing anybody. It's off putting that some tend to interpret innocent posts as negative ones.

Same old, same old - and you can't blame the snowbirds!

[Bogie Shooter]

I think you've misinterpreted my post. I was just saying that after all of the hustle and bustle with so many "extra" people in our communities, it felt good to get back to some sort of normal. I am appreciative of how much more calm it has gotten.

"but I have to breathe a sigh of relief now that they are gone"
So hard to put up with them when they are here?

[jalopy54]

The more the merrier!!! LOL :welcome:

[zcaveman]

The snow birds are the lucky ones. They get to drive/fly off somewhere and get good medical care, eat in upscale restaurants, shop in top shelf stores, while full time residents are stuck here picking love bugs out of their teeth.

Keep your windshield up. No love bugs then. Been a full timer since I moved and never had love bugs in my teeth.

And I get good medical care, eat in upscale restaurants and shop at top shelf stores. All right here in TV!!!

Z

[perrjojo]

I don't know anyone who really dislikes snowbirds. I think they are a lot like Christmas Holidays...lots of excitement, rush and hustle bustle but when it's all over we sit back, relax and enjoy a quieter pace until next year.

[kathymar528]

I feel we spend too much time bashing the snow birds.

I agree. People are people. Whether they are renters or homeowners, they deserve to be here just like anyone else. So what that life is more crowded for a few months of the year? If we truly value the financial boost they give to our local economy, there would never be comments about being glad when snowbirds are gone.

[VT2TV]

:bigbow: I agree. I love my Snowbird neighbors and friends. The slower summer pace is nice too.

If those hundreds of houses that are being built in TV were occupied by all year round residents you might be wishing you had the Snowbirds back since they aren't there year round - just saying.

I can't believe all the people who think this is bashing snowbirds. I love my snowbird neighbors! But yesterday I was enjoying the quiet and the reduction in traffic. Saying that there is a difference here when the snowbirds leave is not bashing. It's just enjoying two very different situations in different ways. I love the energy when they are here, and I love the quiet when they're gone.



I have to agree with the posters who enjoy the decrease in the numbers of people/traffic for whatever the reason. In my perfect world, I would love to see the Villages stop being essentially a time share resort. I am sure that comment will ruffle a few feathers, but I would love to see the villages totally sold out, and no renters. I have heard more than once that when build out is complete , we would have enough people to justify more and/or better restaurants and stores. And, no, nothing specific has been said. As far as having 100% non renters (and "snowbirds" could buy every house in the Villages, I don't care who buys the houses). I have nothing against any specific renter, but if only the owners lived here-like most neighborhoods in this country-I personally think we would see far less destruction. People who own the property are far more concerned about keeping everything looking nice because any repairs are probably will be coming out of their pockets. They are more familiar with rules/regulations, and I can only hope-more familiar with how to drive in a roundabout. We wouldn't have this constant back and forth about people who like or don't like snowbirds. They owners-- and again I am speaking broadly in the whole post, for the most part don't have the attitute of "I am only vacation, and I am going to just go wild" which I would hope would decrease accidents, confrontations when they have had too much to drink" I could go on and on, but will stop now. I have talked to a few servers in the restaurants, and while they enjoy the money they get in the winter, they would rather have TV full of people who actually lived here, because they could be fairly sure of a nice steady income year round, not to mention they would rather be hired year round and not just seasonally. Obviously I am sure many of you will disagree with what I have said, but I am talking about my perfect idea, not yours, so I don't expect , nor care if you don't agree. I would like to get back to the idea of a "hometown" and not just rental property. I also doubt it would ever happen, but again, my thoughts.

[Bay Kid]

Greedy

[Happydaz]

I like The Villages just the way it is. I have many friends who are snowbirds or renters and I enjoy their company when they are here. I lived in New England for over forty years and I was used to increased traffic during the warm summer months. Who was I to tell people to stop traveling to the beautiful beaches during the summer because they slowed my travel time getting to my sales calls? I usually just adjusted my routes in the high season to avoid extensive delays. We are full timers here in The Villages and we do enjoy the summer when crowds are smaller, but we also enjoy seeing all our snowbird friends in the winter. Adjustments have to be made,(e.g.leave early for church.) but that is AOK. The world was not made just for me. I have to learn to share the good things with others.

[gomoho]

Is it okay for me feel relief that the crowds are gone - or am I not supposed to acknowledge that for fear of someone being offended. Me thinks we are getting to PC around here. Please allow folks to have an opinion and enjoy the change of pace.

[karostay]

Whew Snowbirds are gone !
Trash on the trails still appearing
Bad golf cart drivers on a daily basis are encountered
Now who are going to point the finger at

[Barefoot]

I was just saying that after all of the hustle and bustle with so many "extra" people in our communities, it felt good to get back to some sort of normal.


The thing is .... those of us who are Seasonal Residents don't consider ourselves "extra people".
We pay property tax and amenities twelve months a year just like you do.

[asianthree]

since we are snowflakes and come and go when we want mostly in the spring and the fall. That way I don't think we can be counted as extra people in the winter

[gerryann]

I have to agree with the posters who enjoy the decrease in the numbers of people/traffic for whatever the reason. In my perfect world, I would love to see the Villages stop being essentially a time share resort. I am sure that comment will ruffle a few feathers, but I would love to see the villages totally sold out, and no renters. I have heard more than once that when build out is complete , we would have enough people to justify more and/or better restaurants and stores. And, no, nothing specific has been said. As far as having 100% non renters (and "snowbirds" could buy every house in the Villages, I don't care who buys the houses). I have nothing against any specific renter, but if only the owners lived here-like most neighborhoods in this country-I personally think we would see far less destruction. People who own the property are far more concerned about keeping everything looking nice because any repairs are probably will be coming out of their pockets. They are more familiar with rules/regulations, and I can only hope-more familiar with how to drive in a roundabout. We wouldn't have this constant back and forth about people who like or don't like snowbirds. They owners-- and again I am speaking broadly in the whole post, for the most part don't have the attitute of "I am only vacation, and I am going to just go wild" which I would hope would decrease accidents, confrontations when they have had too much to drink" I could go on and on, but will stop now. I have talked to a few servers in the restaurants, and while they enjoy the money they get in the winter, they would rather have TV full of people who actually lived here, because they could be fairly sure of a nice steady income year round, not to mention they would rather be hired year round and not just seasonally. Obviously I am sure many of you will disagree with what I have said, but I am talking about my perfect idea, not yours, so I don't expect , nor care if you don't agree. I would like to get back to the idea of a "hometown" and not just rental property. I also doubt it would ever happen, but again, my thoughts.

I think you misunderstand what a "snowbird" is. It has nothing to do with renters. Some renters are here year round. A snowbird is someone who comes during the peak winter months only. It makes no difference if they own or rent. And what makes you think that renters are the ones that drink too much and destroy property???? We are all seniors. We are not criminals, drunks, etc. RENTING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SNOWBIRDS!

[Barefoot]

I have to agree with the posters who enjoy the decrease in the numbers of people/traffic for whatever the reason. In my perfect world, .... I would love to see the villages totally sold out, and no renters.

As Modigliani said, "If those hundreds of houses that are being built in TV were occupied by all year round residents you might be wishing you had the Snowbirds back since they aren't there year round".

[EnglishJW]

We have a place at the New Jersey shore. In the summer, everything is jam packed - just as TV is in the winter. In the summer, everything is open and busy. During the rest of the year. many of these places close or barely survive (like restaurants). It is comparable to retail sales in the holiday season. The income from the peak season is what attracts businesses. I would assume snowbirds in TV are similar to people at the beach in NJ in the summer. Yes, they don't all live there and most of them do indeed see themselves as on vacation. That is one of the major reasons they are willing to spend money. If there was no "peak season," I wonder how many of these businesses would simply close or never open in the first place. If there were no snowbirds, what would the impact be? I have heard that 20% to 40% of the homes in TV are filled with snowbirds. If that income went away, would it be worth the peace and quiet that exists during the other 9 months of the year?

[Halle]

I shy away from negativity toward the snowbirds. They own homes like us and they pay year round for goods and services they only use part time.

However, I agree with Gomoho's post. In my opinion, this wonderful place has become a serious vacation rental destination year round, and that is a real problem. I come from a vacation/resort area on Long Island, NY. I saw, year after year, the problems attending the "I'm paying good money for this vacation - so watch out" attitude. Increased year round traffic, ignorance or negligence in driving, impatience and rudeness and all too often an obnoxious and mistaken sense of 'entitlement.'

I agree with The Villages becoming more of a vacation destination. We have seen the change in the 7 years we have owned here.

[EnglishJW]

We've only made one trip to TV so our experience is limited (we were ready to buy a home but it didn't work out - we'll find another). Having said that, we were very surprised at how many of the people we spoke with who live in TV also have or have had second or even third homes that they rent. Which side of the snowbird issue are you on if you both live and rent in TV?

[bfdretired]

I am a Wanna be.....The Villages may be in our future...But...talk of crowds noise crowded eating establishments and happiness that the snowbirds are leaving brings ......makes me hesitate in buying???
I can understand both sides of the issue {i think}.....if the villages is so busy of a place and so many are not happy......Do I really want to be there?
I had hopes of a quiet peaceful safe place to live with the option to enjoy a lifestyle that i can enjoy......Sorry but all of the posts make me worried about making the wrong decision....

[slipcovers]

I am a Wanna be.....The Villages may be in our future...But...talk of crowds noise crowded eating establishments and happiness that the snowbirds are leaving brings ......makes me hesitate in buying???
I can understand both sides of the issue {i think}.....if the villages is so busy of a place and so many are not happy......Do I really want to be there?
I had hopes of a quiet peaceful safe place to live with the option to enjoy a lifestyle that i can enjoy......Sorry but all of the posts make me worried about making the wrong decision....

If you want to live in Florida, in the Winter, it will be worse any place that has a desirable location. We have tried both coasts from top to bottom and it is, no exaggeration,10 x as bad. 5 lanes of traffic both sides, road rage, 10 wheel trucks, long, long lines at restaurants, dirty unstocked supermarkets , to name a few. When we arrive at TV, in February, it is a breath of fresh air compared to the coasts. I cant understand the WHINNERS. If they don't like it MOVE.

[dewilson58]

If you want to live in Florida, in the Winter, it will be the worse in any place that has a desirable location. We have tried both coasts from top to bottom and it is, no exaggeration,10 x as bad. 5 lanes of traffic both sides, road rage, 10 wheel trucks, long, long lines at restaurants, dirty unstocked supermarkets , to name a few. When we arrive at TV, in February, it is a breath of fresh air compared to the coasts. I cant understand the WHINNERS. If they don't like it MOVE.


Nicely said Slip.

:pepper2::pepper2:

[Bogie Shooter]

I am a Wanna be.....The Villages may be in our future...But...talk of crowds noise crowded eating establishments and happiness that the snowbirds are leaving brings ......makes me hesitate in buying???
I can understand both sides of the issue {i think}.....if the villages is so busy of a place and so many are not happy......Do I really want to be there?
I had hopes of a quiet peaceful safe place to live with the option to enjoy a lifestyle that i can enjoy......Sorry but all of the posts make me worried about making the wrong decision....

Less than 50 people out of 100,000+ have posted on this thread.........................you are going to let them determine you future??

[Bogie Shooter]

I have to agree with the posters who enjoy the decrease in the numbers of people/traffic for whatever the reason. In my perfect world, I would love to see the Villages stop being essentially a time share resort. I am sure that comment will ruffle a few feathers, but I would love to see the villages totally sold out, and no renters. I have heard more than once that when build out is complete , we would have enough people to justify more and/or better restaurants and stores. And, no, nothing specific has been said. As far as having 100% non renters (and "snowbirds" could buy every house in the Villages, I don't care who buys the houses). I have nothing against any specific renter, but if only the owners lived here-like most neighborhoods in this country-I personally think we would see far less destruction. People who own the property are far more concerned about keeping everything looking nice because any repairs are probably will be coming out of their pockets. They are more familiar with rules/regulations, and I can only hope-more familiar with how to drive in a roundabout. We wouldn't have this constant back and forth about people who like or don't like snowbirds. They owners-- and again I am speaking broadly in the whole post, for the most part don't have the attitute of "I am only vacation, and I am going to just go wild" which I would hope would decrease accidents, confrontations when they have had too much to drink" I could go on and on, but will stop now. I have talked to a few servers in the restaurants, and while they enjoy the money they get in the winter, they would rather have TV full of people who actually lived here, because they could be fairly sure of a nice steady income year round, not to mention they would rather be hired year round and not just seasonally. Obviously I am sure many of you will disagree with what I have said, but I am talking about my perfect idea, not yours, so I don't expect , nor care if you don't agree. I would like to get back to the idea of a "hometown" and not just rental property. I also doubt it would ever happen, but again, my thoughts.

What does that mean??

[dewilson58]

I have to ask.............what does the bfd of the bfdretired stand for???

[OBXNana]

What does that mean??

It means people that purchase property in The Villages and rent the property to others, do not take pride in ownership and do not keep their houses to the same standards as those that live in their property.

It means the people who rent a house don't follow rules, drink to excess, and have never driven in a roundabout.

Those that rent their homes to others and those that rent those houses are less desirable neighbors.

Generality at it's best.

[The Buckeyes]

I'm thrilled they are gone, and like you said you can drive and eat out in peace now. :bigbow:

Look out....this snowbird is arriving on Monday!!!

[Bogie Shooter]

It means people that purchase property in The Villages and rent the property to others, do not take pride in ownership and do not keep their houses to the same standards as those that live in their property.

It means the people who rent a house don't follow rules, drink to excess, and have never driven in a roundabout.

Those that rent their homes to others and those that rent those houses are less desirable neighbors.

Generality at it's best.

Really? Is that a big problem?

[asianthree]

it means people that purchase property in the villages and rent the property to others, do not take pride in ownership and do not keep their houses to the same standards as those that live in their property.

It means the people who rent a house don't follow rules, drink to excess, and have never driven in a roundabout.

Those that rent their homes to others and those that rent those houses are less desirable neighbors.

Generality at it's best.

wow

[ilovetv]

I agree with The Villages becoming more of a vacation destination. We have seen the change in the 7 years we have owned here.

One of the more brilliant concepts The Villages Sales has had is the Lifestyle Preview Plan in which people RENT a newer, well-decorated, villa near Lake Sumter Landing so that people can try the lifestyle for real. Actually experiencing the lifestyle is what sells the homes here. Villagers interviewed in the many TV Livin' the Lifestyle Videos have said, "We love it because it's like a permanent vacation."

People already here at some point are going to want to sell their home, or they'll be dead and their heirs will want/need to sell it. Reducing or eliminating rentals would reduce drastically the number of buyers who actually know from experience what they want and where they want it and how much they need to pay for what they want.

Eliminate rentals and you'll get "Geriatric Estates: Waiting to Die". And what 55-year-old couple about to retire wants to buy a home in a "waiting to die" town, as many here on TOTV described the other 55+ communities they checked out in FL and reviewed in another recent thread??

The only reasonable solution to the perceived problem of too many non-resident owners would be to pass an ordinance saying only up to ____% of the total number of homes can be rentals.

[jbdlfan]

"but I have to breathe a sigh of relief now that they are gone"
So hard to put up with them when they are here?

Wow! Talk about select reading! Did you read the beginning of the statement where the OP said they are "I know all of the money that the snow birds bring to our community" and "It's nothing against them personally"???????
Geesh, very fair and sensible statement about crowding. I see it's attack mode on TOTV again.....

[Didiwinbob]

We (hubby & I) have lived here just over 8 months. Yes the restaurants and traffic are busier but I wouldn't have it any other way. I loved the seasonal neighbors, more dancers in the squares, and more opportunities to meet potential friends. Now the neighborhood is quiet, more open tee times ( but we didn't have trouble reserving times this winter), I love it here, I feel very safe and I find myself smiling more. To each their own.

[Cajulian]

I have to agree with the posters who enjoy the decrease in the numbers of people/traffic for whatever the reason. In my perfect world, I would love to see the Villages stop being essentially a time share resort. I am sure that comment will ruffle a few feathers, but I would love to see the villages totally sold out, and no renters. I have heard more than once that when build out is complete , we would have enough people to justify more and/or better restaurants and stores. And, no, nothing specific has been said. As far as having 100% non renters (and "snowbirds" could buy every house in the Villages, I don't care who buys the houses). I have nothing against any specific renter, but if only the owners lived here-like most neighborhoods in this country-I personally think we would see far less destruction. People who own the property are far more concerned about keeping everything looking nice because any repairs are probably will be coming out of their pockets. They are more familiar with rules/regulations, and I can only hope-more familiar with how to drive in a roundabout. We wouldn't have this constant back and forth about people who like or don't like snowbirds. They owners-- and again I am speaking broadly in the whole post, for the most part don't have the attitute of "I am only vacation, and I am going to just go wild" which I would hope would decrease accidents, confrontations when they have had too much to drink" I could go on and on, but will stop now. I have talked to a few servers in the restaurants, and while they enjoy the money they get in the winter, they would rather have TV full of people who actually lived here, because they could be fairly sure of a nice steady income year round, not to mention they would rather be hired year round and not just seasonally. Obviously I am sure many of you will disagree with what I have said, but I am talking about my perfect idea, not yours, so I don't expect , nor care if you don't agree. I would like to get back to the idea of a "hometown" and not just rental property. I also doubt it would ever happen, but again, my thoughts.


VT2TV, we own our home (no mortgage) and are snowbirds. We never rent it out. We maintain it better than most homes around us. And we definitely aren't here on vacation. We live here and take pride in what we have and do in this great community.

How do you classify us? Are we bad people and don't have as high standards as you.

[The Great Fumar]

LOL
I've often wondered why it is okay to golf together in foursomes but not dine as foursomes!

Wonder no more !!!
Golf foursomes are assigned ....Dining foursomes are not !!!!


your welcome

Fumar

[villagerjack]

So I am an "extra" person? Thanks a lot.

[OBXNana]

Wow! Talk about select reading! Did you read the beginning of the statement where the OP said they are "I know all of the money that the snow birds bring to our community" and "It's nothing against them personally"???????
Geesh, very fair and sensible statement about crowding. I see it's attack mode on TOTV again.....

I feel the original post (may have not been intentional on their part) attacked anyone that came to The Villages and rented a property or the person that may buy a property to use in the future and currently rents their property to others. We personally have fit into both of those groups at one point or another.

Typically, I do not get into this type of discussion. I found it difficult to avoid when so many generalities were used by the original post. I understand this is/was their feelings on houses not owner occupied. The original post was the attack. The posts that followed, defended their feelings on being lumped into a negative group without facts. How can this not be taken personally?

[Bay Kid]

Whew Snowbirds are gone !
Trash on the trails still appearing
Bad golf cart drivers on a daily basis are encountered
Now who are going to point the finger at

So true!

[dewilson58]

I feel the original post (may have not been intentional on their part) attacked anyone that came to The Villages and rented a property or the person that may buy a property to use in the future and currently rents their property to others. We personally have fit into both of those groups at one point or another.

Typically, I do not get into this type of discussion. I found it difficult to avoid when so many generalities were used by the original post. I understand this is/was their feelings on houses not owner occupied. The original post was the attack. The posts that followed, defended their feelings on being lumped into a negative group without facts. How can this not be taken personally?

Yepper

Time for this thread to die.

[Mallory Voice]

I know all of the money that the snow birds bring to our community but I have to breathe a sigh of relief now that they are gone. It's nothing against them personally, but I really like being able to eat at a restaurant, travel the roads without too much traffic and shop more comfortably in the stores. It's kinda like our vacation now. Does anyone else feel the same?

Many many permanent Villagers feel the same way. We're glad to see them arrive for business sake and glad to see them leave so we can take back our community. :agree: Mallory voice

[Bogie Shooter]

Many many permanent Villagers feel the same way. We're glad to see them arrive for business sake and glad to see them leave so we can take back our community. :agree: Mallory voice

You may want to read the other 65 posts.

[Mikeod]

Wow! Lots of attitude.

I look at the high season as normal because, like other communities, the houses are all occupied, whether with owners or renters. Amenities are in high demand; golf course times are in short supply (shorter days with more players); restaurants have waiting lines. Truth is there are workarounds for all these. Go or sign up early for classes; be less choosy about course and time or accept that you may not play as many times per week as desired; eat at home more or earlier at restaurants.

I consider the rest of the year as not normal. Many of my friends are not here. The overall energy in the community is lower. Clubs don't meet over the summer either because of the heat or fewer members present. Don't get me wrong, though. I do enjoy being able to decide to play golf and get a time on a desired course same day. I do enjoy quicker access to restaurants.

We came here from San Diego where we had the visitors in the winter from colder climes, then the ones in the summer from Arizona escaping the heat. So it was year 'round. I like it here!

[bonrich]

It might be safe to say that the majority of us started out as "snowbirds", enjoying the vacation times here for some years, staying longer with each visit and then looking at making a change in our lives, selling the home and all that we had for many years, for some an easy choice and others very difficult. That snowbird that is renting a place in your neighborhood may very well be someone that will become a neighbor or a friend in the future in part by how they were treated by you, made to feel welcome no matter how long they rented, or shared a table in a busy restaurant, a bench in one of the Squares, or a golf partner when making reservations to play.
So, enjoy our time here for as long as we have.........

[CFrance]

It might be safe to say that the majority of us started out as "snowbirds", enjoying the vacation times here for some years, staying longer with each visit and then looking at making a change in our lives, selling the home and all that we had for many years, for some an easy choice and others very difficult. That snowbird that is renting a place in your neighborhood may very well be someone that will become a neighbor or a friend in the future in part by how they were treated by you, made to feel welcome no matter how long they rented, or shared a table in a busy restaurant, a bench in one of the Squares, or a golf partner when making reservations to play.
So, enjoy our time here for as long as we have.........
Excellent.:coolsmiley:

[njbchbum]

Wonder no more !!!
Golf foursomes are assigned ....Dining foursomes are not !!!!


your welcome

Fumar

Don't see it that way! Restaurant host/hostess assigns tables to diners [or diners to tables]...and it seems that golfers are not always amenable to those assignments - especially when required to WAIT for all parties to be present before being seated.

[Josie70]

I know all of the money that the snow birds bring to our community but I have to breathe a sigh of relief now that they are gone. It's nothing against them personally, but I really like being able to eat at a restaurant, travel the roads without too much traffic and shop more comfortably in the stores. It's kinda like our vacation now. Does anyone else feel the same?

I agree with you 100 per cent we can go anywhere now......

[lousandi]

Hi everyone.............I am a "snowbird......snowflake......homeowner..........go sh, I am not sure what I am! Anyway, even I am glad when the snowbirds go, and I AM ONE! I am from Connecticut but live mostly in The Villages. It does get hectic in the winter months here but this past year CT had horrible weather and we were really glad to be here.

I have made wonderful friends here and am thankful for this lifestyle. Even though I am somewhat of a snowbird I keep my home in great shape, keep the yard well manicured all year long and support the Villages Homeowners Association.

[Josie70]

[QUOTE=TheVillageChicken;874252]In my neighborhood, it also means they took their snowdogs with them.[/QUO

In my neighborhood also..

[Bogie Shooter]

Hi everyone.............I am a "snowbird......snowflake......homeowner..........go sh, I am not sure what I am! Anyway, even I am glad when the snowbirds go, and I AM ONE! I am from Connecticut but live mostly in The Villages. It does get hectic in the winter months here but this past year CT had horrible weather and we were really glad to be here.

I have made wonderful friends here and am thankful for this lifestyle. Even though I am somewhat of a snowbird I keep my home in great shape, keep the yard well manicured all year long and support the Villages Homeowners Association.

A very large majority do just that. Enjoy your summer.

[mrbgull]

Good point, ilove tv

[asianthree]

on a happy note I am glad the love bugs are gone, so the can stop making the cars look like they are wearing a sweater, and everything white look speckled.:a040:

[VT2TV]

Hi everyone.............I am a "snowbird......snowflake......homeowner..........go sh, I am not sure what I am! Anyway, even I am glad when the snowbirds go, and I AM ONE! I am from Connecticut but live mostly in The Villages. It does get hectic in the winter months here but this past year CT had horrible weather and we were really glad to be here.

I have made wonderful friends here and am thankful for this lifestyle. Even though I am somewhat of a snowbird I keep my home in great shape, keep the yard well manicured all year long and support the Villages Homeowners Association.



Thanks for saying you recognize how things are less crowded when the seasonal residents are gone. I have NOTHING against any of the seasonal residents personally, I atually have some very, very good friends who are seasonal residents. I just have a problem with all the crowding and difficulty getting around TV during the fall, winter and spring---some times worse than others.

[Bay Kid]

While we are back home enjoying golf, boating and the beach take good care of all our amenities.

[hdandydon]

I do absolutely , this is now our vacation. The developer just's wants to keel expanding, all about profits I guess.