Tierra Del Sol Pool- Nasty, selfish women.

[shrink]

I don't like this type of post, but I am so disgruntled about what happened to my deaf friend at this pool today, I feel I should say something. My friend is profoundly deaf. We came to the pool today, and there were three "ladies" water-walking and talking with each other. My friend and I were the only other people in the pool. We were talking and signing to each other while doing some light walking and exercising. Because she can't hear, she accidentally bumped (gently) into the women twice (they were coming up behind her and she stepped back). She politely apologized to them. One of the women told her to stay out of their way. I signed to my friend what had been said, and my friend replied, "well, there is a whole pool here". The response from one of the women was, "We were here first!". Where are we? Is this first grade? Do these people think they own the pool? And what about compassion in Florida's friendliest hometown? My friend copes with enough challenge in this world without selfish and inconsiderate people adding to her difficulties. I hope these folks don't attend church on Sundays and declare themselves holy. One would think and hope that by the time we become senior citizens, we would have developed a spirit of sharing and caring. I was so hurt for my friend. Now I'm just angry... Thanks to all who read and think about this post. Maybe it will make a difference in the future (I hope).

[ilovetv]

This sums it up: "Is this first grade? Do these people think they own the pool?"

I've seen this before, too, where a water-walking group of "females" (not lady-like) takes over the whole length and width of a neighborhood pool, driving out individuals who want a normal amount of space to either work out or float.

To me, groups of water walkers belong in a sport pool, during designated times that are not lap-swim times.

And then to treat a deaf person this way is really stinky.

[njbchbum]

So sorry that happened to you and your friend! I understand totally! Based on the most unwelcoming experience when I first went to my neighborhood pool I subsequently went back and still go just for spite! Snowbirds are not welcome at our pool - we take up space that the year-round folks think belongs to them. I loved asking one of the women where the space was that my amenities had paid for while I was gone as I wanted to use it now that I was there!

[redwitch]

Class shows. So does lack of class. From what you described, I'd say your friend has a lot of class. Sadly, these water walkers showed their lack of class. Even more sadly, I think I would have shown a tremendous amount of lack of class as I told these women exactly what I thought of their "we were there first" attitude.

[Nursebarb1]

Oh my goodness. I seldom post a comment, but I'm breaking my own rule. I can't believe the entitlement of these rude folks. People, go to a sports pool if you want to do laps.

[Happinow]

This type of behavior is sad and unacceptable. Shame on those women. I hope your friend finds a more people friendly pool.

[Indydealmaker]

I don't like this type of post, but I am so disgruntled about what happened to my deaf friend at this pool today, I feel I should say something. My friend is profoundly deaf. We came to the pool today, and there were three "ladies" water-walking and talking with each other. My friend and I were the only other people in the pool. We were talking and signing to each other while doing some light walking and exercising. Because she can't hear, she accidentally bumped (gently) into the women twice (they were coming up behind her and she stepped back). She politely apologized to them. One of the women told her to stay out of their way. I signed to my friend what had been said, and my friend replied, "well, there is a whole pool here". The response from one of the women was, "We were here first!". Where are we? Is this first grade? Do these people think they own the pool? And what about compassion in Florida's friendliest hometown? My friend copes with enough challenge in this world without selfish and inconsiderate people adding to her difficulties. I hope these folks don't attend church on Sundays and declare themselves holy. One would think and hope that by the time we become senior citizens, we would have developed a spirit of sharing and caring. I was so hurt for my friend. Now I'm just angry... Thanks to all who read and think about this post. Maybe it will make a difference in the future (I hope).

Just tell them that you are so very, very sorry that they are in such a bitchy mood just because they cannot afford their own pool.

[Barefoot]

I've seen this before, too, where a water-walking group of "females" (not lady-like) takes over the whole length and width of a neighborhood pool, driving out individuals who want a normal amount of space to either work out or float.
To me, groups of water walkers belong in a sport pool, during designated times that are not lap-swim times.

This often happens at our adult pool where a group of water walkers takes over the whole width of the pool and half the length. And they stay in the water for most of the afternoon. The people who swim for exercise usually wait until 6 PM to swim.

[graciegirl]

This often happens at our adult pool where a group of water walkers takes over the whole width of the pool and half the length. And they stay in the water for most of the afternoon. The people who swim for exercise usually wait until 6 PM to swim.


Do you go to Tall Trees too, Bare?

[folkh]

Repeat to yourself Forgive Them Lord for They Know Not What They Say or Do!! Then you and your friend have a wonderful day together!!

[senior citizen]

Repeat to yourself Forgive Them Lord for They Know Not What They Say or Do!! Then you and your friend have a wonderful day together!!


That is wise advice.....as confrontation is not a good idea with the way society has changed. Long gone are the polite manners, consideration , compassion and just general tolerance for those different. Perhaps the ones exhibiting this (what I call) immature schoolgirl behavior, are in early stage Alzheimers when beliggerance is rearing it's ugly head. As someone has mentioned in the past, rudeness is even apparent in church parking lots, after the sermon. Go figure.

As far as hearing impaired, or people with disabilities, "there but for the Grace of God go I." Like what's the hurry? Walking in water?

Retirement is endless days and nights, with endless hours. No rush.

[PattyCakes]

This often happens at our adult pool where a group of water walkers takes over the whole width of the pool and half the length. And they stay in the water for most of the afternoon. The people who swim for exercise usually wait until 6 PM to swim.

My husband has back problems and his doctor told him to walk in the pool. Unfortunately, he was almost mowed down by a group of women who were "water walking." Come on, gals. Take the water walking to a sports pool that has laps. Share the pool with other folks, for cryin' out loud.

[Cedwards38]

I believe we do have an overabundance of selfishness and self centeredness in The Villages, and we should all work on correcting that in ourselves. I'm sorry this happened.

[KathieI]

I don't go to the neighborhood pools just because I'm busy with other things and I miss it because I always had my own pool in Calif. Lately, I've been wondering why is everyone building their own pools when we have so many around TV, now I know why!!! Wow, how rude and annoying. I think I'll continue to stay away from pools, who needs this aggravation.

[2BNTV]

Repeat to yourself Forgive Them Lord for They Know Not What They Say or Do!! Then you and your friend have a wonderful day together!!

This is always good advice, to preserve one's sanity.

However, forgive them, my butt. These people are rude and inconsiderate like the one's who save seats several hours before a concert/event. I was at SS the other day around noon, and several seats were tied up, and or had seat paddings on them, for the R&R band concert.

Some people have the herd mentality and or think, they are the only people in the world that count. Just ask them, they will tell you. This is immature thinking, at it's best. I would like to pity them, but they have no intention of ever changing for the better, so forgiveness is not something that is deserving. I would not be able to forgive them, so I'll have to hand the job to GOD. GOD has a funny sense of humor, and he dishes out punishment for mean people. "Mean people stink".

I'm so sorry this happened to your friend, as she is a "class act" for responding appropriately.

Just remember. "Man plans, GOD laughs".

[asianthree]

we have a different group but same issues..its their pool..bring floating tables in the pool with drinks and yep food and you had better not come in the pool and make a ripple...of course they still tell me i don't belong there and how did i steal a pass...ya got to love those comments..

[George Bieniaszek]

we have a different group but same issues..its their pool..bring floating tables in the pool with drinks and yep food and you had better not come in the pool and make a ripple...of course they still tell me i don't belong there and how did i steal a pass...ya got to love those comments..

Perfect solution: Get a group of your friends and neighbors together and go to the pool when cocktail hour is happening and initiate the "International Villages Cannonball Competition". Make sure all bring their Villages ID so show these cranky people that Yes We Belong and pay our Amenity Fees along with them!!

I am in CT right now and will be back in The Villages in July. Let me know if you need an extra Cannonballer :D

[Taltarzac725]

Perfect solution: Get a group of your friends and neighbors together and go to the pool when cocktail hour is happening and initiate the "International Villages Cannonball Competition". Make sure all bring their Villages ID so show these cranky people that Yes We Belong and pay our Amenity Fees along with them!!

I am in CT right now and will be back in The Villages in July. Let me know if you need an extra Cannonballer :D

That's going to really hurt. We had a pool in Palm Harbor which I miss a lot and whenever I would try to splash Tal or Tar or Zac they would love it but I always had to go into the 6' feet deep area or else I would hit the bottom hard.

Too bad about selfish people at pools. You see people who do not think things out all over the place. I mean about how their activites affect others around them. I have got that on TOTV, at Doggie Doo Run Run and everywhere else in the Villages I have been.

[CFrance]

Perfect solution: Get a group of your friends and neighbors together and go to the pool when cocktail hour is happening and initiate the "International Villages Cannonball Competition". Make sure all bring their Villages ID so show these cranky people that Yes We Belong and pay our Amenity Fees along with them!!

I am in CT right now and will be back in The Villages in July. Let me know if you need an extra Cannonballer :D

Great idea!:BigApplause:

And OP, next time don't even deign to tell your deaf friend if some nasty bit**es say something like this again.. She doesn't need to know, and you can just ignore them or tell them your friend cannot hear and they will have to accommodate.

[BobnBev]

This often happens at our adult pool where a group of water walkers takes over the whole width of the pool and half the length. And they stay in the water for most of the afternoon. The people who swim for exercise usually wait until 6 PM to swim.
:swear::swear:They can only take over if you let them. Be assertive, it's your pool too.:shrug:

[BobnBev]

we have a different group but same issues..its their pool..bring floating tables in the pool with drinks and yep food and you had better not come in the pool and make a ripple...of course they still tell me i don't belong there and how did i steal a pass...ya got to love those comments..

PLEASE--PLEASE---Tell us which pool this is. I would like to swim there,:D:D

[DianeM]

:swear::swear:They can only take over if you let them. Be assertive, it's your pool too.:shrug:

I agree completely. You can't ride over my rights if I don't let you. As for forgiveness - give me a break. It's not the earth the meek inherit - it's the dirt. If you don't stand up to bullies then you get sand kicked in your face.

[quirky3]

:swear::swear:They can only take over if you let them. Be assertive, it's your pool too.:shrug:

I was just trying to picture this - if you are floating in your "noodle chair", don't they have to walk around you? What else could they do?

[Mr.Big]

Oh no. You all are starting to scare me. I am afraid that the Villages is becoming like the rest of the world; everybody is grumpy and rude! Thats why I have been coming to The Villages during the winters; to get away from the real world!:shrug:

[onslowe]

It would indeed be interesting to see these self centered greedy pool hogs encounter an equal number of people acting just like them in the same pool. Would it result in a scene reminiscent of "Braveheart?" Or would they learn?

Seems to me that due to the 'bad kids' behavior we need plain English kindergarten-level rules and a monitor in each and every non sports pool. We cannot be trusted to act like nice people by ourselves.

[tucson]

I would think that the obvious & easiest solution to the problem of "pool walkers" would be to not allow it at the Adult Pools and ONLY at the Sports Pools.....

[CFrance]

I would think that the obvious & easiest solution to the problem of "pool walkers" would be to not allow it at the Adult Pools and ONLY at the Sports Pools.....

Could be posted in the rules at the pool. Then anyone who gets nasty because you're floating in their path can be pointed toward the rules sign.

[Indy-Guy]

Seems to me it is time for a


TOTV POOL TAKE OVER PARTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LET ME KNOW WHEN AND WHERE

[quirky3]

Seems to me it is time for a


TOTV POOL TAKE OVER PARTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LET ME KNOW WHEN AND WHERE

That's a great idea! Like a flash mob! Tierra Del Sol - day and time?

[George Bieniaszek]

Seems to me it is time for a


TOTV POOL TAKE OVER PARTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LET ME KNOW WHEN AND WHERE

VILLAGE CANNONBALLERS UNITE!!!!

Maybe some of these cranky classless old bitties need some water splashed on their faces:thumbup:

[pqrstar]

Many times people don't realize how they come across.

Please don't take things personally.
They really don't know you.

The best thing to do is get over it.

Look on the bright side.
You have a choice.

[onslowe]

How can one not take it personally when it affects his or her personal enjoyment of a Village pool?

It seems that the only choice one would have would be to not go to the pool or into it, but in any case, to pay the amenities fee for the sole benefit of the pool hogs.

[ConnecticutYankee]

"Pool Walking" happens at many pools.......usually a group of women who take up half the pool for hours gossiping. "pool walking" should not be allowed at adult pools, only at sports pools. There are many water exercise classes at all the sports pools that they would be better off attending. We never go to our adult pool for this reason, which is too bad because it is minutes from our house. We prefer to go to the sports pools during combo swim or free exercise. Less crowded.

[ilovetv]

I would think that the obvious & easiest solution to the problem of "pool walkers" would be to not allow it at the Adult Pools and ONLY at the Sports Pools.....

No, because getting a lap lane to swim laps at sport pools is already hard to get at most sport pools, because of classes, volleyball, etc. filling the schedule until 3:00 p.m. and then in winter, it's dark early with only 2 hours of lap time once classes and teams end.

They can use the Combo swim part of the sport pool, but giving them swim lap lanes would be a travesty.

A better solution would be to limit the number of pool walkers in an adult pool to two or three and no more unless it's a scheduled class. These adult pools need monitors for this and various other reasons.

The other thing the hags hog is the patio tables, for playing cards etc. While out walking several miles, I have stopped in at adult pools to get water and use the lavatory. Oh....my.....gosh. They glared at me like "What are you doing, using OUR pool restroom???" They literally stopped playing cards to stare me down and let me know this was "their" territory. One of several reasons I do not use the adult pools and have a country club golf-pool upgrade membership.

This is one of very few places where I see "cliques" in TV. Sad indeed.

[ilovetv]

"Pool Walking" happens at many pools.......usually a group of women who take up half the pool for hours gossiping. "pool walking" should not be allowed at adult pools, only at sports pools. There are many water exercise classes at all the sports pools that they would be better off attending. We never go to our adult pool for this reason, which is too bad because it is minutes from our house. We prefer to go to the sports pools during combo swim or free exercise. Less crowded.

Correct. But they should not be given lap swim lanes at sport pools.

[tucson]

No, because getting a lap lane to swim laps at sport pools is already hard to get at most sport pools, because of classes, volleyball, etc. filling the schedule until 3:00 p.m. and then in winter, it's dark early with only 2 hours of lap time once classes and teams end.

They can use the Combo swim part of the sport pool, but giving them swim lap lanes would be a travesty.

A better solution would be to limit the number of pool walkers in an adult pool to two or three and no more unless it's a scheduled class. These adult pools need monitors for this and various other reasons.

The other thing the hags hog is the patio tables, for playing cards etc. While out walking several miles, I have stopped in at adult pools to get water and use the lavatory. Oh....my.....gosh. They glared at me like "What are you doing, using OUR pool restroom???" They literally stopped playing cards to stare me down and let me know this was "their" territory. One of several reasons I do not use the adult pools and have a country club golf-pool upgrade membership.

This is one of very few places where I see "cliques" in TV. Sad indeed.

I agree w/you. Some of the women at the adult pools are over the top ! I stopped going to them and started going to the family pools, much quieter and non-cliqu-ish. I'd rather listened to children anyway...;-D

[CFrance]

tucson, that is so sweet. And a good idea. It would be hard to pool-walk with a bunch of kids flailing about, and the parents simply wouldn't put up with the kind of behavior these pool hogs are exhibiting.

I'm not a fan of screaming or loud kids in restaurants, but I love to see them having a blast in a swimming pool.

[capecodbob]

Wow, I always thought a "swimming pool" was just that, a place to "swim". Want to walk, go to lake Sumter!

[CFrance]

Of course, we are accomplishing nothing here. What we should be doing is inundating the rec department with complaints about this. Or the appropriate department.

If continued complaints from residents can get the dogs banned from Tamarind Grove park, we should be able to effect something with the pool behavior.

[DianeM]

Seems to me it is time for a


TOTV POOL TAKE OVER PARTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LET ME KNOW WHEN AND WHERE

I'm sooooooooo in!!!!!!!!!!

[tucson]

When will the surveys be out? This will a good time to ask for some new ground rules for the Adult Pools.

[Marion]

I hope that these rude women read TOTV. I understand why so many of you say you don't go there anymore, but by not going we are really just encouraging these rude and hurtful people to continue being nasty. If enough "nice" people keep coming maybe at some point they will be outnumbered and then they'll find somewhere else to to go or stay home.

[Buffalo Jim]

Since it is highly unlikely these so called " ladies " would ever bother to read this site or even consider that it might apply to them :

HOW ABOUT OUR OWN VERSION OF A FLASH-MOB AT " THEIR POOL " !

Not only should we all " walk " about the pool but we should all talk at the same time real loudly bragging nonstop about our children and grand-kids and about what a bad husband our son-in-law is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[perrjojo]

Of course, we are accomplishing nothing here. What we should be doing is inundating the rec department with complaints about this. Or the appropriate department.

If continued complaints from residents can get the dogs banned from Tamarind Grove park, we should be able to effect something with the pool behavior.
We had a group of women using our pool for water arobeics and it was reported..no more water arobeics. We had the group from Hacienda using our pool for water arobeics while their pool was being renovated. It was reported. It stopped. If you don't say anything it will continue...say something and it will stop.

[lovsthosebigdogs]

Of course, we are accomplishing nothing here. What we should be doing is inundating the rec department with complaints about this. Or the appropriate department.

If continued complaints from residents can get the dogs banned from Tamarind Grove park, we should be able to effect something with the pool behavior.

Great idea. Could this happen before June 16th please? :o)

[CFrance]

When will the surveys be out? This will a good time to ask for some new ground rules for the Adult Pools.
Unfortunately, the survey is already over and done with this year. Also, it's more of a marketing survey than a "What changes do you want?" survey.

It's going to take a lot of people complaining to the right place to get a change made. I just don't know what the "right place" is for this one.

[BobnBev]

I'm sooooooooo in!!!!!!!!!!

Boy, count me in:highfive:

[justjim]

OP, sorry you and your friend were treated so rudely at the pool. I am constantly amazed at the rudeness of some seniors. More often than not it rears its ugly head when it's a group of three or more----"group entitlement.".

My wife goes to the pool often during the "season". She says she has met some of the "nicest" people at the pool. Maybe the "entitlement group" takes over after the snowbirds go home?

You might go back and this time take a couple of men with you. Maybe the guys can "charm" the ladies into being more civil! Just kidding----sort of!

[Wandatime]

My husband is hard of hearing; I usually tell people when we are introduced that he is hearing impaired and they will need to speak slowly and a little louder for him to understand them. I have had to say to nurses, waiters and others trying to be of service that, "My husband did not hear you just now; you will have to repeat yourself."

In this situation it appears these women didn't notice you signing. However, whether they noticed or not, they were still extremely rude by speaking in an ugly manner. If I'd been in your situation I probably would've said, "My friend is hearing impaired, she didn't hear you coming up behind her." It is unfortunate that you would have to explain the situation, but perhaps it may have sparked some sort of enlightenment in them.

Hey, it happens. Once in a blue moon.

[njbchbum]

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In this situation it appears these women didn't notice you signing. However, whether they noticed or not, they were still extremely rude by speaking in an ugly manner. If I'd been in your situation I probably would've said, "My friend is hearing impaired, she didn't hear you coming up behind her." It is unfortunate that you would have to explain the situation, but perhaps it may have sparked some sort of enlightenment in them.

Hey, it happens. Once in a blue moon.

Sweet of you to think that of those women!

I might have suggested to those women that since my friend is hearing impaired they might speak up and repeat what they said! :0

[CFrance]

Sweet of you to think that of those women!

I might have suggested to those women that since my friend is hearing impaired they might speak up and repeat what they said! :0

I might have suggested they... well, never mind.

[applesoffh]

This sums it up: "Is this first grade? Do these people think they own the pool?"

I've seen this before, too, where a water-walking group of "females" (not lady-like) takes over the whole length and width of a neighborhood pool, driving out individuals who want a normal amount of space to either work out or float.

To me, groups of water walkers belong in a sport pool, during designated times that are not lap-swim times.

And then to treat a deaf person this way is really stinky.

This happens every morning at the Charlotte pool. A large group of women (asnd a couple of husbands) monopolize the pool doing exercises. They clearly belong in the sports pool and discourage anyone else from using the pool until they finish their routine about 9:30 - 9:45. They have been reported to Captiva rec center a number of times, and have timed their routine accordingly. The participants use floating barbells and water weights. For anyone to use the adult pool for organized exercise to the exclusion of anyone else - be they deaf, otherwise challenged or just folks looking to enjoy time in the pool, is inexcusable. Their behavior was juvenile. Unfortunately, there are groups of people like that in almost every neighborhood pool. They think they own the pools! I'm sorr you and your friend were subjected to this behavior.

[CFrance]

This happens every morning at the Charlotte pool. A large group of women (asnd a couple of husbands) monopolize the pool doing exercises. They clearly belong in the sports pool and discourage anyone else from using the pool until they finish their routine about 9:30 - 9:45. They have been reported to Captiva rec center a number of times, and have timed their routine accordingly. The participants use floating barbells and water weights. For anyone to use the adult pool for organized exercise to the exclusion of anyone else - be they deaf, otherwise challenged or just folks looking to enjoy time in the pool, is inexcusable. Their behavior was juvenile. Unfortunately, there are groups of people like that in almost every neighborhood pool. They think they own the pools! I'm sorr you and your friend were subjected to this behavior.
If Captiva won't do anything, how about going to the TV rec director?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I hope these folks don't attend church on Sundays and declare themselves holy.

Anyone who goes to church and declares themselves to be holy, is missing the point of church.

[VT2TV]

Could be posted in the rules at the pool. Then anyone who gets nasty because you're floating in their path can be pointed toward the rules sign.



I am not saying this sarcastically, because things like this have been one of my worst pet peeves in TV.....BUT, when you point to the sign, and they either ignore you or just get really nasty with you, what then?????? As far as I can tell, there is no one in TV that has any authority to MAKE anyone do anything. The rec employees always say that they aren't allowed to kick people out of places, and the community watch has told me that they aren't allowed to do anything like that either. I had a major incident at one of the squares one time,and I tried to find anyone with "authority". When I asked someone from TV the next time I saw them, they told me to CALL 911 the next time. The more populated TV becomes, the more that trouble like this will happen. I never saw anything like this happen when we first arrived here, but each year, I see the Friendliest Hometown disappearing. We need some people with authority to handle these things before something bad happens.

[senior citizen]

I agree w/you. Some of the women at the adult pools are over the top ! I stopped going to them and started going to the family pools, much quieter and non-cliqu-ish. I'd rather listened to children anyway...;-D



That's actually a great idea. I'd also much rather listen to joyful little ones having fun in the family pool. I remember all of ours and their little friends with the "Marco Polo" routine........

[Halibut]

I would think that the obvious & easiest solution to the problem of "pool walkers" would be to not allow it at the Adult Pools and ONLY at the Sports Pools.....
There are still the bobbers to deal with. Seems like every neighborhood pool has a group of regulars who squat for half the day and become quite territorial and resentful of others. If you are trying to walk or swim, they will not get out of your way; you have to go around them. I don't swim that often but only go first thing in the morning or during the last evening hour; it's not worth trying to be reasonable with people who don't care and won't listen. Set in our ways, indeed. ;)

[rockyisle]

I just wish we had a "like" button on TOTV... My fingers would be sore this morning with all the great responses. And we complain that the younger generation is "entitled". I think we have them beat!!! Shame on them. Karma... watch for it....

[rockyisle]

PS... I think a bunch of you need to get to that pool this afternoon and raise some cane. I'd lead the charge but I'm up in NH....

[casan12501]

I don't think we have all of the details on this matter, and until we do I think it would be better to keep your rude and unnecessary comments to yourself. When three people are water walking, and you are not it just seems you sign and talk away from the walkers. That pool is big enough for 5 people and it is a shame that these out of control comments has made such a big splash. So good people can't we all just get along!

[CFrance]

I don't think we have all of the details on this matter, and until we do I think it would be better to keep your rude and unnecessary comments to yourself. When three people are water walking, and you are not it just seems you sign and talk away from the walkers. That pool is big enough for 5 people and it is a shame that these out of control comments has made such a big splash. So good people can't we all just get along!
Are you a water walker in a non-sports pool? I think that is what the problem is, aside from the water walkers in that pool and others being rude and arrogant.

Nobody said there were only five people in the pool. Our neighborhood pool would be hard-pressed to accommodate three water walkers moving abreast and still have room for people who just want to lounge around in the water in a non-sports pool.

[gerryann]

PS... I think a bunch of you need to get to that pool this afternoon and raise some cane. I'd lead the charge but I'm up in NH....

So....waiting to find out if there was a rumble today......:22yikes:

[Villageshooter]

l welcome to America's friendliest hometown ha ha!

[tudacee]

Are you a water walker in a non-sports pool? I think that is what the problem is, aside from the water walkers in that pool and others being rude and arrogant.



Nobody said there were only five people in the pool. Our neighborhood pool would be hard-pressed to accommodate three water walkers moving abreast and still have room for people who just want to lounge around in the water in a non-sports pool.


Actually she did say there was only the 3 water walkers and the the OP and her friend on the pool. I'm trying to figure out the configuration. Everyone couldn't have been arm length apart if they talking to each other in their individual groups? Were they going length wise/ width wise...seems like there could have been enough room for 5 people.

I was at the pool once, and this woman was swimming length wise from one end to the other, and this other woman decided to stand in the shallow end of the pool on that same side to hold on and kick her legs. The woman swimming got upset and said, with all the pool available, why was she doing it there? The other woman said, because I can't swim and I have to hold on to the side. The other woman said, I started swimming here first, so go to other end of the shallow side and hold on there. She went back to swimming, but the other woman, didn't move away...and when the swimmer came back, the swimmer was not happy. The non-swimmer said, in a calm voice (which probably made the other woman even more angrier), "You know they have Lap Pools for swimming." Luckily, there was one other person in the pool, (a man), who managed to cool the situation down with humor, cause I thought the swimmer was going to drown the non-swimmer. "Don't tell me I have to go to the sports pool to swim a few laps when I live just down the street." What got me was this all happened in a good sized pool all on one side. If one one on the other side, no problem, but neither would give in. What happened? you ask?

Well, the swimmer kept swimming. The non-swimmer kept holding on and kicking and when the swimmer came close to that end of the pool, she stepped back and let her go by, all the time rolling her eyes at me who was sitting in my chair, pretending to read my iPad.

One last thought. Rudeness is no excuse for any behavior, whether a person has a physical challenge like hearing or not. Those ladies thought they had the bigger mouth and numbers and could get away with it. Too bad. Next time, they might meet someone with bigger mouths, attitude or numbers and be in for a shock.

Remember, we're in the Bubble, we are retired...and have you noticed that it's all been about women behaving badly? Must be all those years of taking care of babies and men, that have turned us in to B-XXXX????

PS...Goood to see Gracie girl back.

Donna

[travelguy]

what i have noticed in the pools are the pool talkers. they commandeer a huge area, usually in the center of the pool, bobbing in their noodle/floats, and chat, and chat, and chat incessantly until you want to drown them. leisure swimming is out of the question, and having a quiet read by the pool is impossible. it makes no difference if it is snow birds or frogs or snowflakes....rude is rude.

[yabbadu]

what i have noticed in the pools are the pool talkers. they commandeer a huge area, usually in the center of the pool, bobbing in their noodle/floats, and chat, and chat, and chat incessantly until you want to drown them. leisure swimming is out of the question, and having a quiet read by the pool is impossible. it makes no difference if it is snow birds or frogs or snowflakes....rude is rude.

What do you expect these friends meeting in the pool to do? Look at each other and not talk! Not all people want quite, not all people want swimmers there, not all people want what you want. So Chill and try another pool that meets you expectations!

[CFrance]

What do you expect these friends meeting in the pool to do? Look at each other and not talk! Not all people want quite, not all people want swimmers there, not all people want what you want. So Chill and try another pool that meets you expectations!
I agree with this to a certain extent. It's when the people become proprietary and rude and arrogant that it becomes a problem. Be aware of your surroundings, don't make too much noise due to people trying to read (use ear buds, don't talk too loud), don't take up the whole pool.

[Erijo]

IMHO. If everyone who goes to the pool just followed the guidelines as to what is permitted there would not be this animosity towards each other. Family pool, adult pool, exercise pool. We all have the "right" to be in these pools as we all pay an amenities fee monthly. No one is more entitled over the next person. There is no "I was here first", "I am a full-timer vs snowbird". We all have to live together. If we just showed some respect for each other and acted like adults, not like a 5 year old, this thread would never had been written. My final thought, just saying to another person, "do you mind" or "is it OK with you" shows respect and thoughtfulness. Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion. :)

[zonerboy]

IMHO. If everyone who goes to the pool just followed the guidelines as to what is permitted there would not be this animosity towards each other. Family pool, adult pool, exercise pool. We all have the "right" to be in these pools as we all pay an amenities fee monthly. No one is more entitled over the next person. There is no "I was here first", "I am a full-timer vs snowbird". We all have to live together. If we just showed some respect for each other and acted like adults, not like a 5 year old, this thread would never had been written. My final thought, just saying to another person, "do you mind" or "is it OK with you" shows respect and thoughtfulness. Thank you for allowing me to express my opinion. :)

My goodness! There actually is some one in The Villages who possesses common sense!

[Erijo]

One more food for thought...6581 bloggers have read this thread, so that means 6581 people know about your rude behavior in the pool, meaning the selfish walkers who monopolize the pool as well as those women with the tables. How embarrassing for them I am sure they will be the subject of many conversations, that's social media for you! :)

[Erijo]

PS Thank you Zonerboy, very kind of you. :)

[Erijo]

Wow, now views up to 7157, amazing.

[shrink]

I just want to thank everyone for taking the time to read my original post. I hope that it will make even the tiniest difference in the future!

[Jamescarriker]

I am so sorry for you and your friend. You will find out this is NOT Florida's friendliest hometown.

[Madelaine Amee]

I am so sorry for you and your friend. You will find out this is NOT Florida's friendliest hometown.

Unfortunately, have to agree - it's more like high school!:shrug:

[TheVillageChicken]

Wow, now views up to 7157, amazing.

Many of those views are from bots, which are automated scripts (usually referred to as spiders) which crawl the web and index content, sites, and forums for various search engines such as Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc.

[Erijo]

What's a bot?

[TheVillageChicken]

What's a bot?

Short for robot. Automated surfing. Benign bots collect information for search engines. Malicious bots harvest email addresses, etc.

[dotti105]

Ok, So maybe I am confused, and that is entirely likely. Correct me if I am wrong, please.

There are 3 types of pools:

-FAMILY POOLS: kids, grandkids welcome, more playful activities anticapated

-SPORT POOLS: water walking, water aerobics, lap swimming, water bb, water polo etc

-NEIGHBORHOOD POOLS: 30 yrs and over, leisure pools, noodle floats allowed, etc

Right so far?

It sounds to me as if the water walkers should be at the sport pools. Is that not correct?

When we have been "visiting" our new home we have frequented our neighborhood pool and have found friendly folks who were there to relax. Sunning, reading beside the pool and in for a quick dip, or in the pool in noodle floats making conversation and simply relaxing.

It seems to me that the neighborhood pools are NOT large enough for 3 people to water walk side by side without infringing on the others there to relax. And this during the off season.

Why would water walkers not simply go to the Sports Pools, where that level of activity is anticipated and would not be in the way of those who are at the neighborhood pool to simply relax?

When visiting TV for the first time on our LSL visit, we attended a sports pool by mistake, thinking we would relax and take a quick dip and read in a lounge chair. As people assembled for a class we realized we were at the wrong type of pool. We simply asked some of the residents and were given friendly directions to the closest neighborhood pool.

TV is laid out well, with something for everyone. Water walkers are easily accommodated at the Sports Pools and leisurely relaxation at the Neighborhood Pools.

I don't think anyone has the right to "change the rules" to accommodate their own desires. It is selfish people who are not willing to go along with the designed use of the pools that seem to be causing the problem.

As far as the floating table etc. That simply belongs in a private pool. Those individuals are selfishly commandeering the neighborhood pool and restricting the enjoyment of others.

This may be a "55 and better" community, but unfortunately some people grow old and never grow up thinking that the rules apply only to others. If everyone just followed the rules for each type of pool it would go a long way to making this paradise with out any thorns.

[CFrance]

I believe you are correct in your understanding, Dotti.

The problem with the sports pools is that they are booked with classes & lap swims and water games. So the people who are water-walking in the other pools are doing so because they don't like the times set up for water walking in the sports pools, or they don't want to travel farther, etc., and so they disregard the rules and do this in the wrong kind of pool. Since nobody in charge stops them, they start to feel entitled, and then they start crabbing at people using the pool for what it's intended who get in their way.

It's not right, but unless somebody stands up to them, it will continue to happen. Most people don't want to cause that kind of argument.

[CFrance]

Many of those views are from bots, which are automated scripts (usually referred to as spiders) which crawl the web and index content, sites, and forums for various search engines such as Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc.

A question: is every time you come back to view a thread considered a new view for counting purposes? For instance, if I view a thread once and then come back to it at different times during the day, is it one view or many?

[zcaveman]

I opened the thread a couple of times and the count did not change so I would say no.

Z

[DougB]

C'mon, do y'all really think over 8,000 different members of TOTV have read this thread?

[perrjojo]

C'mon, do y'all really think over 8,000 different members of TOTV have read this thread?
And if they did........why?...LOL

[Carl in Tampa]

A question: is every time you come back to view a thread considered a new view for counting purposes? For instance, if I view a thread once and then come back to it at different times during the day, is it one view or many?

This would be a question best directed to the Moderator.

It might make a difference whether you looked at the thread when logged on with your screen name or when not logged on.

When you use your screen name and log off you get a message, "All cookies cleared." I would suspect that when you view the thread while logged on, the computer would recognize your cookie and not count that as an additional view.

But if you view it without logging on, perhaps no cookie is assigned and every viewing counts as a new viewing.

Only the Moderator or board owners can probably answer this with authority.

[yabbadu]

I don't like this type of post, but I am so disgruntled about what happened to my deaf friend at this pool today, I feel I should say something. My friend is profoundly deaf. We came to the pool today, and there were three "ladies" water-walking and talking with each other. My friend and I were the only other people in the pool. We were talking and signing to each other while doing some light walking and exercising. Because she can't hear, she accidentally bumped (gently) into the women twice (they were coming up behind her and she stepped back). She politely apologized to them. One of the women told her to stay out of their way. I signed to my friend what had been said, and my friend replied, "well, there is a whole pool here". The response from one of the women was, "We were here first!". Where are we? Is this first grade? Do these people think they own the pool? And what about compassion in Florida's friendliest hometown? My friend copes with enough challenge in this world without selfish and inconsiderate people adding to her difficulties. I hope these folks don't attend church on Sundays and declare themselves holy. One would think and hope that by the time we become senior citizens, we would have developed a spirit of sharing and caring. I was so hurt for my friend. Now I'm just angry... Thanks to all who read and think about this post. Maybe it will make a difference in the future (I hope).

Does the term "OLD BITTYS" ring any bells!

[CFrance]

Does the term "OLD BITTYS" ring any bells!

I hope we younger biddies don't turn into old ones.:pray: