Southern Alternative to Katie Belles??

[BigB46]

Just wondered whether there will be an attempt to establish a place similar to Katie Belles on the southern end of the community? Or, is that already in the plans?

[graciegirl]

I heard from a very unreliable source that it will be called Hernando's Hideaway and will be in the basement of the sales center at Brownwood.


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[cbh1975]

Ohhh, Miss Gracie, you are a pip!

:bigbow:

[BigB46]

You seem to be the best informed on TOTV! Thanks. Do you have any info on when that might be?

[BigB46]

Any more info on this rumor?

[bluedog103]

Any more info on this rumor?
I think you might want to click on Gracie's link.

[lpkshop]

HYSTERICAL
I love it :-)

[billethkid]

KAty Belles was a marketing tool used as TV forged across 466 and points South.

There is no more such need as TV approaches buildout.

Hence I would say there is little or no interest on the part of the developer to do another Katy Bell type establishment.

I think Hernando's Hideaway stands a much better chance!

[janmcn]

Just wondered whether there will be an attempt to establish a place similar to Katie Belles on the southern end of the community? Or, is that already in the plans?

Brownwood would be a perfect location for another Katie Belle type venue, only this time with a gourmet restaurant and a state of the art sound system.

Also, another Church on the Square entertainment center is badly needed at that end of town, as the one being remodeled will only seat about 1000 people.

These are two items to mention on the resident's survey next year.

[Bogie Shooter]

Good Luck!

[tomwed]

Brownwood would be a perfect location for another Katie Belle type venue, only this time with a gourmet restaurant and a state of the art sound system.

Also, another Church on the Square entertainment center is badly needed at that end of town, as the one being remodeled will only seat about 1000 people.

These are two items to mention on the resident's survey next year.

I want that too.
The Church on the Square had fantastic entertainment that was one hour long and very inexpensive. Katie Belles layout reminds me of The Hoop-Dee-Doo Revue with space for dancing.

Did the Church lose money?
Does Katie Belle break even?

Is there enough of us at this end of town to support two new “like” establishments?

[bluedog103]

Good Luck!
Where's that "like" button.

[Bogie Shooter]

44614

[thelegges]

We have never been a fan of food at Katie Belles

[zcaveman]

We have never been a fan of food at Katie Belles

There was a time when it was the place to bring your visitors to eat. Then they chopped it up and put Chico's in what was the dining room and then they added Cattle Baron's and it went downhill.

I miss the old Katie Belles.

Z

[Blessed2BNTV]

Too funny GG!

[thelegges]

There was a time when it was the place to bring your visitors to eat. Then they chopped it up and put Chico's in what was the dining room and then they added Cattle Baron's and it went downhill.

I miss the old Katie Belles.

Z

I agree in 07 it was very different, but I never considered it fine dining. I enjoy very good wine with food but I just don't see a resturant. Of that quality coming to TV

[Barefoot]

There was a time when it was the place to bring your visitors to eat. Then they chopped it up and put Chico's in what was the dining room and then they added Cattle Baron's and it went downhill.
I miss the old Katie Belles. Z

An interesting history. ... you old timers have a good sense of what happened and why. Newbies take note.

[cattywampus]

There WAS a time when it was the place to bring your visitors to eat.

Then they chopped it up and put Chico's in what was the dining room and then they added Cattle Baron's and it went downhill.

I miss the old Katie Belles.

Z

I agree. I miss the OLD Katie Belles, also.

Stopped going there 2 or 3 years ago.

In MY opinion, with 100 eating establishments IN The Villages,
Katie Belles was just no longer in the top 25.

[PaPaLarry]

I don't think you have a chance!!!! hehehe

[2BNTV]

Only Gary Morse knows for sure and he ain't talking.

One day it appears and you know it's been in the works for a while. :D

HE sure do work in mysterious ways, but I seriously doubt it.

[graciegirl]

Only Gary Morse knows for sure and he ain't talking.

One day it appears and you know it's been in the works for a while. :D

HE sure do work in mysterious ways, but I seriously doubt it.

Just exactly what Joe said.

Looking forward to seeing you tomorrow, Kiddo.

[Madelaine Amee]

I don't think there will be a Southern "Katie Belles", those days are gone. I also don't think there are enough regional rec centers in the Southern part of TV. As most people know, the regional centers are the big centers with huge rooms capable of holding 150+ people. I know Eisenhower is open, but is there another one in the works? I also don't think there are enough instructors to service all the new residents in the Southern part - by that I mean the people who give freely of their time (and I do mean FREE) to teach classes. I know from experience that I am meeting people from the farthest part of TV who are having to travel 40+ minutes to get to Colony, Seabreeze, Miona and Laurel Manor. Events in these rec centers are already at capacity, I cannot imagine what the winter will be like.

[jblum315]

There is a restaurant in Washington D.C that is below street level and entirely dark, no lights at all. A hostess guides you down the stairs to where the tables are. You cannot see the other diners, not even the ones at your table. The waiter reads or recites the menu.
I think this would be a fine thing for Paddock Square, don't you?

[Bill Tasker]

I miss the "original" Katie Bells from when Spanish Springs first opened. We talk of it on every visit. How it has been down graded and now is not worth attending. And while we are on memory lane, Café O'le, Augustine's, and the Bakery.

[janmcn]

I miss the "original" Katie Bells from when Spanish Springs first opened. We talk of it on every visit. How it has been down graded and now is not worth attending. And while we are on memory lane, Café O'le, Augustine's, and the Bakery.

It seems that all the fun things about The Villages are disappearing; first it was the Silver Lake restaurant, then the Chula Vista restaurant (who will ever forget the all day long dollar Margaritas), then the Santiago restaurant, then the tiki bar at OBCC. Where will it end?

[graciegirl]

It seems that all the fun things about The Villages are disappearing; first it was the Silver Lake restaurant, then the Chula Vista restaurant (who will ever forget the all day long dollar Margaritas), then the Santiago restaurant, then the tiki bar at OBCC. Where will it end?



Things change. Where in this world would we, could we find anything like this place is, AS IT IS today?????

If people here become unhappy and at odds with the positive view of the majority of the people who live here, then if they move, at least they have invested well and will make a profit.

Almost everyone I know who lives here sees this wonderful place very positively.

[Chi-Town]

It seems that all the fun things about The Villages are disappearing; first it was the Silver Lake restaurant, then the Chula Vista restaurant (who will ever forget the all day long dollar Margaritas), then the Santiago restaurant, then the tiki bar at OBCC. Where will it end?
I dont remember the Silver Lake or Chula Vista restaurants, but I still miss Santiago and the OBCC tiki bar. There are others to add to that list, but there are new places that have opened that have made it less painful. The funny thing is that thousands of people living here now never knew of our old favorites. But as GG says, this is still the best game in town.

[rubicon]

A common theme on TOTV spoken by village residents is one of I wish there was a.....................here. I suspect some do not fully explore the reality of their wish list items. Katie Belle's from my prospective has never been good since I first visited in 2004. It had gotten progressively worse after I moved here in 2006 where I paid two visit the second was the straw that broke the camel's back when I ordered a chicken sandwich that was so bad I spit out the first bite . I would suggest that those enjoying the Katie Belle experience can have a better time eating out and joining when of the many dance clubs here.

Church On the Square was renovated by Villages Lake Sumter, Inc. it is said the capacity to be 1500. Its venue has not been advertised, to my knowledge, but I suspect the owners will draw some very good entertainment but it will come with a cost. The Villages' population is now perhaps large enough to fill their venue. I am not certain that a competing venue is viable.

I am not interested in any of the above but I certainly would not stand in the way of others. However people ought to give careful thought as to the tension between want vs need because want comes at a high cost just as the residents of Atlantic City NJ who experienced a 50% closing of their casinos

[njbchbum]

Things change. Where in this world would we, could we find anything like this place is, AS IT IS today?????

If people here become unhappy and at odds with the positive view of the majority of the people who live here, then if they move, at least they have invested well and will make a profit.

Almost everyone I know who lives here sees this wonderful place very positively.

I love the campaigning Q/A of my favorite Freeholder who has now passed several years...When people would ask about changing things in and about the County he would ask, "Why do you want to change things? Why did you move here? Was the County not the place that you wanted to live when you moved here?" And then he would tell his questioner, "With all of the changes you have requested, it seems you want to reinvent this County to become the one where you used to live and moved away from!"

[Bavarian]

A common theme on TOTV spoken by village residents is one of I wish there was a.....................here. I suspect some do not fully explore the reality of their wish list items. Katie Belle's from my prospective has never been good since I first visited in 2004. It had gotten progressively worse after I moved here in 2006 where I paid two visit the second was the straw that broke the camel's back when I ordered a chicken sandwich that was so bad I spit out the first bite . I would suggest that those enjoying the Katie Belle experience can have a better time eating out and joining when of the many dance clubs here.

Church On the Square was renovated by Villages Lake Sumter, Inc. it is said the capacity to be 1500. Its venue has not been advertised, to my knowledge, but I suspect the owners will draw some very good entertainment but it will come with a cost. The Villages' population is now perhaps large enough to fill their venue. I am not certain that a competing venue is viable.

I am not interested in any of the above but I certainly would not stand in the way of others. However people ought to give careful thought as to the tension between want vs need because want comes at a high cost just as the residents of Atlantic City NJ who experienced a 50% closing of their casinos

First A/C started going down hill in early '60's, stopped going their with my parents and Grandmother in 1966. Casinos came, but no money went to rehabilitate city. The staff came in from outside and there was a big parking place at entrance and were bussed in, really went kaput when Miss America pageant was removed, it was started by A/C businessmen.

If people stop liking the Villages, no one will buy our houses if we want to move, Property values will drop. So the facilities, Entertainment Venues, and the rest have to continue to come and/or replace existing. What will happen to Harley Davison building after the election for starters?

[Bogie Shooter]

Where is the Harley Davidson building?

[Bavarian]

Where is the Harley Davidson building?

In LSL by Barnes and Noble. Would say what it is used for, but that would be political. Maybe just saying campaign headquarters for someone will be allowed.

[DougB]

A common theme on TOTV spoken by village residents is one of I wish there was a.....................here. I suspect some do not fully explore the reality of their wish list items. Katie Belle's from my prospective has never been good since I first visited in 2004. It had gotten progressively worse after I moved here in 2006 where I paid two visit the second was the straw that broke the camel's back when I ordered a chicken sandwich that was so bad I spit out the first bite . I would suggest that those enjoying the Katie Belle experience can have a better time eating out and joining when of the many dance clubs here.

Church On the Square was renovated by Villages Lake Sumter, Inc. it is said the capacity to be 1500. Its venue has not been advertised, to my knowledge, but I suspect the owners will draw some very good entertainment but it will come with a cost. The Villages' population is now perhaps large enough to fill their venue. I am not certain that a competing venue is viable.

I am not interested in any of the above but I certainly would not stand in the way of others. However people ought to give careful thought as to the tension between want vs need because want comes at a high cost just as the residents of Atlantic City NJ who experienced a 50% closing of their casinos

They have food at Katie Belles? I just go for the entertainment and drinks.

[Bogie Shooter]

In LSL by Barnes and Noble. Would say what it is used for, but that would be political. Maybe just saying campaign headquarters for someone will be allowed.

Oh, you mean the store........didn't think they had a building in TV.
You can bet the rent is cheap for that tenant!

[travelguy]

there are quite a few vacant stores in lsl and also in spanish springs. am sure that the developer knows what he is doing, and sometimes keeping buildings empty for awhile can be a good business strategy; tax write-offs, and such. i would rather see full occupany at all the retail venues, but high rents prohibit many businesses from locating within the villages. one thing that i wold like to see: golf cart stores. other than the ones owned by the developer, no other cart dealer has a store that is golf cart accessible.
but this is my opinion.

[Bogie Shooter]

there are quite a few vacant stores in lsl and also in spanish springs. am sure that the developer knows what he is doing, and sometimes keeping buildings empty for awhile can be a good business strategy; tax write-offs, and such. i would rather see full occupany at all the retail venues, but high rents prohibit many businesses from locating within the villages. one thing that i wold like to see: golf cart stores. other than the ones owned by the developer, no other cart dealer has a store that is golf cart accessible.
but this is my opinion.

What is the source of your statement on rent?

Town and Country EZGO dealer is golf cart accessible.

[cquick]

When we first came to TV to just drive around and look, Katie Belles looked really fancy from the outside. then we went there to a show and dinner in 2010. I would say the show and food was just "ok" but the place was packed to the rafters! I was amazed. They still can pack them in for shows even now, esp. when the Caribbean Chillers put on a special show or Rock and the Rollers. We go there sometimes for lunch to enjoy the entertainment.

But I certainly wouldn't say the food is exceptional, and the chairs are uncomfortable and the service is so so. But none of that matters, since they still are able to gill the house.

[cquick]

I heard from a very unreliable source that it will be called Hernando's Hideaway and will be in the basement of the sales center at Brownwood.


you tube hernando's hideaway - Bing Videos (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+tube+hernando's+hideaway&FORM=VIRE1#view=detail&mid=65A16E2E7B6AF07AB65065A16E2E7B6AF07AB650)

ya know......that would go very well with the bordello style of decor at the sales center!:icon_wink:

[Stitcher girl]

Good luck with another attempt at a large performing arts center.......unsuccessful at this point. The Church on the Square will be an improvement but still not a large enough venue. Time will tell how the parking scenario will play out......

[Bavarian]

How about an outdoor entertainment venue? a concert shell and seating? We have the good weather.

[Bogie Shooter]

How about an outdoor entertainment venue? a concert shell and seating? We have the good weather.

Where will the $ come from?

[janmcn]

How about an outdoor entertainment venue? a concert shell and seating? We have the good weather.

There is no land for a venue of this type in a remote location. The obvious spot would be the polo grounds, but imagine the complaints from nearby residents when the music started playing.

[Bruiser1]

Where is the Harley Davidson building?


Leesburg! They roared out faster than you can say Potato, Potato, Potato,Potato:gc:

(you can still get shirt at Orlando Airport (MCO)

[Shimpy]

Leesburg! They roared out faster than you can say Potato, Potato, Potato,Potato:gc:
(you can still get shirt at Orlando Airport (MCO)

Harley D and The Villages just wasn't a compatible fit, and Harley should have known this.