OBAMA -- What WILL HE DO AS PRESIDENT - Questions/Answers

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Here are some questions I'd like to ask Barack Obama Hussein:

Here are a few questions for Osama Obama
What exactly is he going to CHANGE in the USA?
Why are you for slavery reparations?
How can we trust someone with TWO (2) muslim fathers?
How can we trust someone who "belongs" to a racist church?
What exactly will he do to combat the islamic threat to the USA and to other countries?
What kind of tax structure does he propose for us?
How will he reform social security?
What does he propose for health care and how do we pay?
What will he do to upgrade and reform our military?
What does he propose for homosexual marriage?
What does he propose for gun control?
What does he propose for illegal immigration, closing the borders, and the millions of illegal immigrants in the USA?
plus one hundred more questions concerning the future of the USA.

I hope I'm preaching to the choir here, but I'd love to hear some intelligent answers from Obama supporters.

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http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=9490#408

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English,
If I received this via telephone, I would consider it PUSH POLLING.

I would hang up on the person.

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I suppose the questions posed could be viewed as push polling. Since I am not a political correctness advocate or political jargon tuned.....I just sorta thought they were d_ _ _ good questions. Whether these or other specifics the rah-rah, media driven non thinkers should at least want to know more about this guy.

Push polling or what ever ....the silent majority....Democrats and Republicans....better understand what the candidate of their party is....how he thinks...what he believes...or doesn't.

I personally think it is sad to have to by default accept these are the best candidates America has to offer.....THEY ARE NOT!!!

I am all for opening them up and exposing them to any and all questions and yes even badgering if they espouse just political schmoozing.

The next President will have to have what it takes to lead us when we are attacked again ala 9/11....remember the experts remind us it is not if it will happen but when.

Who do you want in that oval office? Ya better know what they are made of......screw political correctness or not wanting to hurt some ones feelings.

BTK

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I do need to stand up for the church Barack Obama and his family attend, The United Church of Christ.

The United Church of Christ is in a relationship of full communion with the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church (USA), and the Reformed Church in America through a formal declaration known as the Formula of Agreement, with the Union Evangelischer Kirchen (Union of Evangelical Churches) in Germany, and with the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) through an ecumenical partnership. The church is a founding member of Churches Uniting in Christ and is in dialogue about deeper relations with the Alliance of Baptists. It is a member of the National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA (NCC), the World Alliance of Reformed Churches (WARC), and the World Council of Churches. The UCC also allies with other denominations in support of Church World Service efforts in domestic and foreign development and relief efforts.

The United Church of Christ is hardly a racist church!

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… Osama Obama … I hope I'm preaching to the choir here ….



... I would describe myself as a concerned American citizen who wants to have an intelligent discussion ...


This is an intelligent discussion? You were closer the first time with "preaching". Please give us a rest.

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These are basic questions that any candidate should be willing to answer. Saying "I will provide health care for all Americans" is not an answer to the question of how will you provide health care, how will you pay for it. These candidates are full of political rhetoric and feel good statements. They will have to answer these and many more questions to get my vote. And if they don't and you vote for them because they sound nice, shame on you. You will get what you deserve. Unfortunately I will have to share that pain as well. This is a VERY intelligent discussion and to think it is not is being naive and accepting them on blind faith. Both candidates should be willing to answer these questions and many more. And English has every right to ask them and expect answers.

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In the January 29, 2008 Primary I voted for Barack Obama as I am a registered Democrat and my choices were limited but have no idea whom I might vote for come November. Depends a lot on who is on the Vice Presidential slot as well as who winds up being the Republican candidates.

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Don't get me wrong. I don't object to the questions. I do object to the way they are phrased. I can elaborate more after work if you are interested.

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English, I'm curious why you are asking all of these questions of Obama. Shouldn't McCain be just as accountable for all of these answers. And if you've been watching and really listening to the debates, many of these questions have been answered. I, for one, cannot tolerate more years of the same. In my opinion George Bush and the Republican party have devastated this country in a way I never thought possible. And, no offense intended, your questions directly pointed towards only Obama, reek of the old familiar stench of the Republican smear campaigns. Am I not being politically correct? Oh well . . . :dontknow:

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Oh Chelsea, you are most definitely being politically correct, to the point of nausea. Talk about smear, your cavalier comment that "George Bush and the Republican party have devastated this country in a way I never thought possible" just reeks of political correctness. It could well have been spouted on MSNBC or by Bill Maher.

I certainly won't defend all actions of Bush and the GOP congresses. Their biggest fault, however, was trying to act like democrats, refusing to cut back on spending. You don't like the war on terrorism, fine. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I think a lot of mistakes were made in the whole war effort, made by the administration, by the military, by the intelligence community, by the media, and by the loyal opposition. Unfortunately, that is the case in all wars. I believe the basic concept behind the war is correct. You may not. That's your right. Find someone who agrees with you and vote for her/him.

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English: I would say calling Barak Obama, Osama Obama, was completely slanted. There are many other examples in your questions. Also, if you were intending to ask these questions about other candidates from supporters, you never mentioned it in your original posting. I certainly didn't mean to be rude to you personally. Politics can rile people and all I am saying is what's good for one is good for all. I apologize if I insulted you "personally" in any way.

Muncle: You're right! I love Bill Mahr, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert! I also love Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer and many others. And I don't believe that 70%+ Americans are wrong. Another point, I never said I was being politically correct. I said "if I was not being politically correct, oh well..." And where on God's earth, did I ever say I was opposed to the War on Terrorism??? My goodness, if you listen to the candidates the way you read threads, I can't imagine who you'll vote for. Suggestion: Read & listen before you speak. Oh, and my comment on George Bush and the Republican Party was not being cavalier -- it is a statement of fact.

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Don't get me wrong. I don't object to the questions. I do object to the way they are phrased. I can elaborate more after work if you are interested.

What, I'm home from work now and no one is interested? I'm crushed!

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Muncle: You're right! I love Bill Mahr, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert! I also love Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer and many others. And I don't believe that 70%+ Americans are wrong. Another point, I never said I was being politically correct. I said "if I was not being politically correct, oh well..." And where on God's earth, did I ever say I was opposed to the War on Terrorism??? My goodness, if you listen to the candidates the way you read threads, I can't imagine who you'll vote for. Suggestion: Read & listen before you speak. Oh, and my comment on George Bush and the Republican Party was not being cavalier -- it is a statement of fact.


First of all, if a billion people believe a dumb thing, it doesn't mean that it's right. It's still a dumb thing. Harry Truman had a 23% approval rating, yet today is rated among the best presidents in history. Polls mean nothing.

I'll bypass your political correctness comments. No substance.

Re the comment about the war, I was addressing your rather absurd comment about Bush and the GOP devastating the country. How has this devastation taken place? Normally after this liberal pablum is spouted, it's followed by a diatribe about the war, cutting taxes, global warming, homeless poor, terrible healthcare, etc., etc., etc. All, of course, Bush's fault. I apologize if I inferred too much from your comment. Glad to have your support for the war.

Re your helpful suggestion, I have one for you. You might want to expand your political horizons beyond Mahr/Maher, Stewart, Colbert, and even Cooper and Blitzer. Don't forget, Leno and Letterman are still out there.

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Ok Muncle, let's stop the quibbling. Maybe you're right. Let's list some of Bush's accomplishments.

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hmmmmm, Katrina? No, hmmmmm. You'll just have to take from there. Oh and thanks for the tip on Leno and Letterman. God, yes I love them too!

Over and out . . . ;)

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FYI. Bush is not running for re-election. His 8 years are up and that's why we are having elections in November.

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FYI. Bush is not running for re-election. His 8 years are up and that's why we are having elections in November.


And that is about the only good thing about this election!!

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Please, don't get me started by starting with Katrina. The federal government did not blunder near as much as the state and local government did, and which I might note were at the time both Democrat administrations. The Louisiana people noted this and ousted a Democrat administration in their last state election.
But for some reason the Bush administration takes all the hits on the handling of the Katrina crisis. Few of those blaming Bush acknowledge that the federal government can not just jump in without the state asking for the assistance.
So Chelsea, I will gladly start with Katrina and go from there!

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Oshun:

I must agree with you again.. Hey have they brought up that this was all caused by George Bush and Global warming yet ?? :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup:

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What impresses me VERY MUCH about many of the posts....the level of detail knowledge is only parroting what is peddled by the media. For example you will never hear on the media any of Bush's accomplishments, hence the devout believers also have nothing to say.
No spontaneity...no originality....very little substance...no concern for accuracy....no ability to weigh in the real fact plus or minus.

Why is the war in Iraq so absent in the news....hmmnnnnn...more good news than bad....can't have that can we!!!!!!

There used to be an old saying that unless YOU have FIRST HAND knowledge, believe none of what you hear and half of what you see...the latter adjusted for 21st century technology...be doubtful of what you see.

I thought this thread was about Obama and what he would do....not Bush!!...not Katrina!!
or the current snow storms....and please do try to conjure up non media inspired catharsis.

There I feel much better ....for now.

BTK

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Heard it on the news this afternoon. Something like 7 0r 8 1/2 percent GNP for this bill.....amounting to over $800,000,000,000 (yes that is eight hundred billion over 7 or 8 year period) on top of the foreign aid that is already approved.....ON TOP OF THE FOREIGN AID WE ALREADY PAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is nothing more than taxing the USA to make the rest of the world OK by the politico's book.....Thank GOD the Senate had the sense to stall the bill from it's current stampede by Biden.
Your politicians at work...Biden and Obama (who wrote and sponsors the bill) knowingly steam rollering eight hundred million dollars.....

The silent majority is getting what it deserves....let the rich lawyers who don't give a damn about those they supposedly represent.....

Sorry English, to violate the thread but it struck a nerve when I herad it this afternoon and you triggered it again.

AT SOME POINT IN OUR EVOLUTION PEOPLE, WE JUST HAVE TO STOP THE OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING BY OUR LAW MAKERS AND PUT AMERICAN FIRST!!!!!

PUT AMERICA FIRST.......SILENT MAJORITY IS GOING TO LET US BECOME AN IMPOVERISHED NATION!!!!

Disgusted....BTK :edit: :redface:

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??? ??? I agree totally. why would anyone vote for Obama. He says he wants change,but change for changes sake means nothing. He never really says anything specific ,just generality's. but his record is the most liberal of any recent candidate, his changes would push us closer to socialism and away from free enterprise. Mc Cain may not be perfect ,but he will keep us safe and secure. :bigthumbsup: :bigthumbsup:-Steve

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Oshunluva: Obama also wanted reparitions from the U.S. government (our tax dollars) to pay for slavery. I was even born then ! I think if he does get the nomination more of this stuff will come out and the kool aid drinkers who like his buzz word 'change' will sober up--hopefully.

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In his latest book, "The Audacity of Hope" Obama mentions on page 9 that he is a Christian. On page 10, he states that he believes in evolution, scientific enquiry and
global warming (tell that to the snowed in folks up north this year.)
I wonder if Christian and evolution can be melded in peace or if this is a conflicting statement.

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Great question. Hard Ball moderator Chris Mathews certainly hit the proverbial nail-on- the-head last evening when he asked Obama supporters what legislation or bills did he sponsor since he became a Senator. They had no answer because they are nonexistent. Here is a candidate that wants to be President but has little or no success as a senator. I guess the Peter Principle applies here.

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I saw the senator from Texas do his interview with Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman. It was horrible. The senator was so poorly prepared that he was an embarrassment to his state and the US Senate. He looked like a complete idiot. As Chris said "That's Hardball."

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as we used to say in the business world

"hope is not a strategy"

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Mrs Obama recently stated"For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country" Watch out what you ask for Democrats,you just might get it.

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Mrs Obama really stepped in it there, she came across so poorly.
Her advisors suggested a quick apology, but it didn't come.
I have a hard time imagining her as first lady, however she's not up for election.

Now, what exactly have Barack's accomplishments been to date that are of significance?

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Michael Steele spoke about “hope” in a speech last year and put the same thoughts into an open letter to the Republican presidential candidates. Steele wrote:

“For years, I sat in audiences and listened as politicians tried to win over voters, especially minority voters, by talking about hope. "Hope is on the way”, “keep hope alive”, “hope you have a nice day!” But our communities demand more from its leaders than “hope” because hope by itself is not a strategy. Hope doesn’t protect you from terrorists, hope doesn’t lower your taxes, hope doesn’t help you buy a home, and hope doesn’t ensure quality education for your kids. What we Republicans can speak to and the kind of leadership Americans demand (and we can provide) affords every citizen the opportunity to turn their dreams into reality and their hopes into action for themselves and their families. Without action, hope passively waits on others to solve problems. Without action, hope looks to next year instead of doing the hard work required today. Without action, hope is powerless to transform lives.”




Michael Steele is a very impressive individual. It's unfortunate he lives in The Peoples' Republic of Maryland.

In his comments, substitute the word "change" for "hope". That's the other ring of this year's political circus and it rings just as hollow as hope.

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I just found the following from his website: As a member of the Senate Veterans Affairs committee, as early as February 2005, Senator Obama warned of a shortfall in the VA budget. Four months later, the VA reported that in fact it had more than a $1 billion shortfall. Senator Obama cosponsored a bill that led to a $1.5 billion increase in veterans' medical care. During the debate on the Fiscal Year 2007 budget, Senator Obama cosponsored measures that would have provided additional funding increases for veterans.

In January 2007, Senator Obama reintroduced the Lane Evans Veterans Health and Benefits Improvement Act to improve the VA’s planning process to avoid budget shortfalls in the future. The bill requires the VA and the Department of Defense to work together and share data so that we know precisely how many troops will be returning home and entering the VA system.

He authored the Sheltering All Veterans Everywhere Act (SAVE Act) to strengthen and expand federal homeless veteran programs that serve over 100,000 homeless veterans annually. During the debate on the Fiscal Year 2007 budget, Senator Obama passed an amendment to increase funding for homeless veterans programs by $40 million. These funds would benefit programs that provide food, clothing, mental health and substance abuse counseling, and employment and housing assistance to homeless veterans.

Working with Senators Akaka and Craig, Senator Obama passed legislation in December 2006 to provide comprehensive services and affordable housing options to veterans through the Department of Veterans Affairs, Department of Housing and Urban Development and nonprofit organizations. This legislation was signed into law and is modeled on parts of the SAVE Act and the Homes for Heroes Act, a measure that Senator Obama had previously authored.

There's more if anyone would care to read it: http://obama.senate.gov/issues/veterans/index.html

He's also on an education committee, and his contributions and proposals are found here: http://obama.senate.gov/issues/education/

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Thank you Lil Dancer and I would also add as accomplishments, Senator Obama has given many voters a voice that never felt they had one, united and excited young voters, brought this country together in a way I have not seen since John F. Kennedy and, yes, given me hope for a change. I honestly don't remember when "hope" and "change" became dirty words. My favorite quote has always been "Never take a person's hope away . . . it might be all they have." I've kept that in mind all of my life. I never stomp on people's dreams or hopes. The good part of all of this is that Senator Barack Obama has the intelligence, broad spectrum of plans on ALL the issues and guts to back them up with. (I should say I also love Hillary, but for a few different reasons.) I don't know about you but I'll vote for hope and change anytime over same old, same old. Just my opinion. :)

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Whether it be Obama. Clinton what is the difference. This explanation seems to fit the bill.

A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be a very liberal Democrat, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.

She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch Republican, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.

One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.

Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.

Her father listened and then asked, 'How is your friend Audrey doing?' She replied, 'Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies, and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over.'

Her wise father asked his daughter, 'Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA.'

The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, 'That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!'

The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, 'Welcome to the Republican party.'

If anyone has a better explanation of the difference between Republican and Democrat I'm all ears.

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sgtsixpack
Hear, Hear! Some people just don't get it.
I certainly don't agree with what's been going on with ANY of the "Republicrats" in the last years. Our politicians are an embarrassment to the notion of democracy.

It is time we return to a "people's government" much like New Hampshire where the legislature is populated by your neighbors and meet a few WEEKS a year at little pay and actually accomplish something.

Washington is OUT OF CONTROL in so many ways it's impossible to count.

I've been doing some reading about the Revolution and Civil War of late and am wondering where are the real leaders in our country today? North or South, it didn't matter, the men and women of the day were commited to their cause and willing to work (or die) for it. Today no one can be bothered as long as they have a new car or the latest gadget. "Survivor" and "Lost" will soon become the real reality!

Ken Burns recent film "The War" also got me to thinking that if we were faced with a similar threat today, the U.S. would fail because of the apathy and general public's intellectual malaise.

Sorry to say, unless the populace regains control, I am not optimistic for our country's future. :(

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Sgt.

You are so right. But if you look at the candidates, 2 are very socialist/marxist and the other is a populist. So it cannot get any better.

That's not to say you give up, but be prepared for a very loonnnggg spell of economic disaster and terrorism unchecked.

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Actually, I'm confused by your story Stgsixpack. Are you saying that only Republicans work hard for their achievements? :dontknow: Are you saying that Republicans work hard for their wealth and refuse to share it? :dontknow: Because if you're looking for a dim future, guess who laid the groundwork.

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I did some research on taxes and found this infomation at this link. Some of the political candidates want to repeal the "Bush" tax cuts and "increase the taxes for the rich only" See where you fall in this table and determine if you fall into the "rich" who will have there taxes increased with the repeal of the tax cut. There are also other sources that support this same data and these are averages for those earnings.

<http://www.taxfoundation.org/> www.taxfoundation.org

Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2007
Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,100
Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $8,900
Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $15,150
Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K - tax $8,200
Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $11,600
Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $24,100

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This was just on CBS news:

To hear President Bush tell it, he's on the side of the angels when it comes to federal spending.

In his Saturday radio address, he blasted congressional Democrats for pursuing "tax and spend policies," while trumpeting his own commitment to keep taxes low and restrain federal spending.

He said his plan will produce a balanced federal budget by 2012.

But what Mr. Bush didn't mention, and what he almost never mentions, is the National Debt.

With good reason.

On the day he took office, the National Debt stood at this unfathomable number:

$5,727.776.738,304.64

In fiscal shorthand, that's $5.7 trillion dollars. Trillion with a "T."

Six and a half years later, the Bureau of Public Debt tells us the National Debt clocks in at a staggering:

$8,835,268,597,181.95

That's $8.8 trillion – an increase of $3.1 trillion dollars since January 20, 2001. And that amounts to a jump of 54% during Mr. Bush's watch.

If you wanted to pay it off, dividing it equally among the U.S. population (estimated by the U.S. Census Bureau to be 302,103,675), it would come to $29,245.82 for every man, woman and child.

Sot it's not really hard to understand why Mr. Bush almost never mentions it.

The National Debt has gone up more on his watch than under any other president.

That means it took the Federal Government 225 years to accrue $5.5 trillion in debt under 42 U.S. presidents. But under President Bush alone, it has soared another 35.2%.

And the National Debt is not just a big number, it's an expensive one.

This year alone, it costs taxpayers $247.3 billion in interest payments.

It hardly gives the president bragging rights about fiscal discipline.

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Bush spend like a drunken sailor for social programs just like a Democrat.

The tax cuts stimulated the economy, YES.



BUT, my friends --- BUSH IS NOT RUNNING FOR RE-ELECTION.

Hint: Check out the Subject line ;D

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We all GET that Bush is not running for reelection. What we're trying to wade through is what rubbish our NEW president will have to clean up after this "Aw shucks, let's just throw some more money away and head down to Crawford to hide" mentality leaves office. Personally I don't think McCain has a clue about what to do on the economic front for the people of America. Guess you figured out by now, my vote is for the Dems. :)
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Bottom line -- They are ALL 3 blind mice. Unfortunately, one of them has to win.

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Much of politics is a compromise and compromise rarely makes anyone truly happy. I know that much of what I want from the government is not what the majority in TV wants. That's okay. I'm entitled to my opinion. You're entitled to yours. In November, neither of us will really be able to vote for what we want. We'll have to pick what is closest to our beliefs. Perhaps even one day we will again be able to pick the best candidate rather than the lesser of two evils. Sadly, I don't think this election is it -- not for President, not for Congress.

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I don't think we have 3 Blind Mice. I think we have one intelligent, albeit, young mouse, one seasoned, albeit, misunderstood mouse, and one tired old rodent that ought to get off the treadwheel, before he falls off! lol Just my opinion. ;)

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Ha, ha!! Love it Chelsea24!!

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"I have found that, over the years, the people that can do nothing more that call someone names while trying to make a point, have no point at all. Either their views aren't formulated clearly or strong enough to stand on their own. I agree with you because I love political discussion, but my skin just crawls when someone tries to slant the discussion by adding disrespectful nicknames. It's transparent and distracting."

Chelsea, is your skin crawling yet? Your message above said it would and here you are calling McCain "one tired old rodent that ought to get off the treadwheel, before he falls off!" Shame Shame Shame. Eat your words.

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Well, you can't dispute the fact that he's old. That's a fact. It could certainly play against him in the upcoming election. I know I'm not comfortable with his age.

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jjdees, I never called McCain old! You put that name in yourself dahling. Besides, we lovely felines love to eat mice. ;)

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Chelsea my dear, look at your post about 3 blind mice. I copied it verbatim. I'll keep my eyes open from now on. I'm afraid of felines said the bulldog. Yuk yuk

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I understand now why Chelsea is a Dem....she also speaks out of both sides of her mouth. We just don't know which Chelsea is the real one.

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I don't think we have 3 Blind Mice. I think we have one intelligent, albeit, young mouse, one seasoned, albeit, misunderstood mouse, and one tired old rodent that ought to get off the treadwheel, before he falls off! lol Just my opinion. ;)


jjdees: Do you see the name McCain? YOU filled in the names, my dear. So, as they say, "that dog won't hunt." Just a feline perspective. ;)

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Regarding the Obama platform, I'll quote one of my favorite, well-respected political minds:

"Now, I could stand up here and say, 'Let's just get everybody together. Let's get unified.' The sky will open ... the light will come down ... celestial choirs will be singing ... and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect. Maybe I've just lived a little long, but I have no illusions about how hard this is going to be."

During the primaries, the entire Obama campaign has been composed of "change" and "hope". I suspect after he gets the nomination, he'll likely add a new word, but I don't yet know what it will be.

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Isn't it amazing how a specific question i.e. the subject above can be skidded away from and all other "stuff" offered begins to generate a life of it's own while the question is not addressed?

Almost politico like!

What would be nice is a comparison of what was done by past presidents VS their pre election rhetoric.

Too bad the need for partisanship always seems to generate more debate than the real needs of the country.

No matter who runs...what ever race or religion....not much is going to change in how our country is managed unless and until the silent majority rises up and MAKE demands UPON it's REPRESENTATIVES. Without a clamour from the masses the elected few will only continue to play their game as they see fit. If the silent majority needs a hint at it's potential just review what lobbyists are able to obtain for their constituency. Their numbers pale in comparison to the majority, yet they some how get what they want/need.

The silent majority (my favorite subject...can you tell?) gets what it deserves....not much!!!!

BTK

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So Chelsea, if it's not JM, does that mean that Hilary is the "old tired rodent that should get off the treadmill"?????????????? I have to assume you mean Obama when you say "young" Me thinks you have become part of the name calling crowd despite what you claim.

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Iridehd: Could be. I haven't sorted them out. But the Repubs seemed to have no problem doing that. You're labeling your own candidate. I stand on the fact that no name calling was involved. I was just responding to a post from Livingston. Me thinks you're reading too much into this. But if that's your opinion of McCain, you have every right to it. ;)

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If it looks like a duck....and sounds like a duck..............

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Regarding the Obama platform, I'll quote one of my favorite, well-respected political minds:

"Now, I could stand up here and say, 'Let's just get everybody together. Let's get unified.' The sky will open ... the light will come down ... celestial choirs will be singing ... and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect. Maybe I've just lived a little long, but I have no illusions about how hard this is going to be."

During the primaries, the entire Obama campaign has been composed of "change" and "hope". I suspect after he gets the nomination, he'll likely add a new word, but I don't yet know what it will be.


Think this Hillary Clinton quote is especially true if you also have all the baggage associated with William Jefferson Clinton along for your hoped for trip back to the White House.

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Chelsea, your delusional. It's fine if you define others as "name calling", but when you do it you thinks its OK. I could have a 100 people read your statement and they would all get the exact same message. Three candidates, three identities that match. So live in a state of denial if that's what you want to do, but nobody but you believes it.

So according to your standard I could say "the wicked witch presidential candidate" and as long as I don't say any name, I am not name calling. Don't criticize others for what you yourself do. That is stooping to low. Either live to the "higher standard" you expect or don't be critical of those who say what they believe.

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Couldn't have said it any better myself. And everybody said --- AMEN l2

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Hi I2rideHd: Yes, you're right. I guess I am delusional. Unlike the Republicans that still think the war was a good idea and refuse any and all wrongdoing that occurred during this administration. Yes, I will move to the higher ground and I'll wait for you guys to get there. See you soon. lol ;)

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I don't think I ever heard anybody say any war was a good idea!

A point often overlooked in this war like some others....does it not bother anybody that our commanders are not allowed to do what ever it takes to win?
If given that direction we would have had our troops home long ago. So as was so appropriately stated above...it ain't just Bush.....the Congress and Senate with the linguine spine, permissive pacifist, do not offend anybody outlook get more than their share of blame.

Ah, for the good old days of Patton and Truman.....WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTK :edit:

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Right on Bille.

I'd rather try to educate folks about who Obama really is. There will be some who are close minded and some who really are searching for information so that they can make their own informed decision.

I wonder what some will do when Bush is out of office. Will they continue to disparage him. He's not that fascinating. I'll forget about him. He's history and as usual history will judge him several years in perspective.

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Speaking of war, what really makes me laugh is McCain's statement during the republican debates, that we could of "won" Vietnam. Wouldn't that have been brilliant, extending that stupid war.

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Dancer, winning would have been a lot more brilliant than fighting with our hands tied behind our backs, and leaving with our tails between our legs. It wasn't a high school fight. And fighting it to win would not have extended it, it probably would have shortened it.

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Right on Bille.

I'd rather try to educate folks about who Obama really is. There will be some who are close minded and some who really are searching for information so that they can make their own informed decision.



I will certainly congratulate you if you can come up with who Obama really is. Exactly what is behind the suit, the smile and the calls for hope and change is the greatest mystery facing the American people since "Who shot JR?". Unfortunately, however, nobody following him really cares. They don't support his political positions, they are just his disciples, believing in him. His is without doubt one of the largest and so far most successful cults of personality to hit the American political scene. In some ways, it's scary as hell.

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Then why didn't we fight to win and why aren't we fighting to win now? And what happened to Afghanistan? The raw truth is that war equals money to certain people in this country and leaves the middle and lower income people with empty pockets and sons & daughters to bury.

"Halliburton, the Texas company which has been awarded the Pentagon's contract to put out potential oilfield fires in Iraq and which is bidding for postwar construction contracts, is still making annual payments to its former chief executive, the vice-president Dick Cheney.
The payments, which appear on Mr Cheney's 2001 financial disclosure statement, are in the form of "deferred compensation" of up to $1m a year."

Afghanistan was a just war due to 9/11 that was left by the wayside for Iraq. Just a Daddy Do-Over. There is no defense for invading Iraq. It's that simple.

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I agree that anytime troops are charges with winning....what ever it take...the encounter is shortened significantly.

The special interest groups in our culture...including for money....don't upset the apple cart...don't make some one mad...don't kill any civilians....don't disturb the ant farms....have completely emasculated the USA's ability to win.

Don't just parrot the media....ask a returning veteran from any of the encounters enumerated above. In some area they are not even allowed to carry their weapons loaded to avoid offending the peoples there. Then there are those silly rules of engagement...asking to load their weapons...then again if it's OK to engage....

No war was EVER won from behind a desk...in front of a camera...in front of a microphone...and certainly not won polling everybody to see what they think.

I venture to say, if the same activity that is going on in Iraq was going on in TV's back yard, the same nay sayers would be demanding bringing it to an abrupt stop....what ever it takes.....especially if it affected happy hour or a T time or a club meeting.

If you have not been there....in the military.....with your hands tied to defend, unable to win....YOU HAVE NO IDEA of the reality.

Permissive pacifism and political correctness is what we have tolerated and approved by the SILENT MAJORITY'S lack of action.

BTK :edit:

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I agree with much of what you said, regarding fighting a legitimate war. However, many Americans think we should not be in Iraq at all, nor should we have invaded. We are not "defending" our country. Al Queda wasn't in Iraq until Bush invaded the country and started this war basically under the false pretenses of "weapons of mass destruction". All we've done is fan the flames of hostility and the existing tensions between the ethnic groups there. If we had spent a tenth of what we spent on the war itself, and applied it to security measures in our own country, we'd be a lot farther ahead

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Lil Dancer: 100% :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:

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Emerging information on Obama's rapid ascent without considerable vetting and public scrutiny may give insight into what kind of president he would make.

Although he tried to unofficially change his name to Barry Obama, he couldn't shake Barack. The names Barack and Hussein are not African names, they are Muslim names.

In one of his books he acknowledged that one of his early mentors and advisers was Frank Marshall Davis. Davis is a known Communist directly subservient to the Soviet Union.

Barack's long time friend and minister is Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. He is a key supporter of Louis Farrakhan and recently honored the Nation of Islam leader for lifetime achievement.

Farrakhan has repeatedly made hate-filled statements targeting Jews, whites, America, and homosexuals. He has called whites “blue-eyed devils” and the “anti-Christ.” He has described Jews as “bloodsuckers” who control the government, the media, and some black organizations. Wright agrees and supports him.

Wright believes that the attacks of 9/11 were retribution for America’s racism. Just before Obama’s nationally televised campaign kickoff rally last Feb. 10, the candidate disinvited Wright from giving the public invocation. Wright explained: “When [Obama’s] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, “a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.”

It seems strange to me how the media covered Romney's religion extensively but what have they disclosed about Obama's?

The Rezko(Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born 1955 in Aleppo, Syria) scandal is a time bomb for Obama. He is absolutely linked in a personal land deal with Rezko that could make him culpable for prosecution. Obama admitted to having used "bad judgement" and called his involvement with Rezko “a boneheaded mistake.” Rezko is currently under indictment for bribery and corruption. The land deal with Barack allowed the Obama's to purchase a home for $300,000 under market value with Mrs. Rezko purchasing part of the property. Rezko has also contributed six digit figures to Obama.

Barack Obama has publicly asserted that he doesn't wear an American flag in his lapel because it is just a symbol and doesn't translate to action. This same man is happy to wear and be photographed in what has been labeled by Hilliary's staffers, "Muslim garb" and turban that evokes under any circumstance, Muslim symbolism.

Obama is educated, articulate and charismatic. He has also been officially cited as the most liberal member of Congress. I believe his presidency would further exacerbate the growing acrimony between the classes. He will attempt to govern from the left but circumstance and blue dog democratics will force him to the center to get anything accomplished. His presidency will be unremarkable and will go very much the way of Jimmy Carter's one term tenure. Just my opinion.

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