Dogs in Restaurants in Wildwood

[N44125]

Noticed on page C1 of today's TV paper that Wildwood has approved allowing dogs with certain restrictions into patio areas of restaurants. One of the restrictions is that dogs can not sit on the chairs. Photo on page C1 has a dog sitting on a chair at Johnny Rockets. "Give an inch, they'll take....." And yes I know that Rockets is not in Wildwood.

[billybye]

I hope they keep them on patio.
Last week at Two Jays in Spanish Springs a woman was feeding her dog at the table inside. I mentioned it to the hostess on way out, don't know if she did anything, should not have been inside with dog anyway.

[Taltarzac725]

Noticed on page C1 of today's TV paper that Wildwood has approved allowing dogs with certain restrictions into patio areas of restaurants. One of the restrictions is that dogs can not sit on the chairs. Photo on page C1 has a dog sitting on a chair at Johnny Rockets. "Give an inch, they'll take....." And yes I know that Rockets is not in Wildwood.

My pooch Beau would not sit still or would want to be in people's laps at the restaurant but there are better behaved dogs which might really enjoy this.

[YouNeverKnow]

Noticed on page C1 of today's TV paper that Wildwood has approved allowing dogs with certain restrictions into patio areas of restaurants. One of the restrictions is that dogs can not sit on the chairs. Photo on page C1 has a dog sitting on a chair at Johnny Rockets. "Give an inch, they'll take....." And yes I know that Rockets is not in Wildwood.
I thought the same thing when I saw that article and the ironic picture of the dog laying across the chair. We have been to World of Beer in Brownwood where they also allow dogs on the patio and the dogs have been sitting up in the chairs at the table like "people". The ordinance also says "dogs are allowed on the patios as long as they remain on the floor and away from furniture and dishes." I wonder how many will let their dogs "clean" their plate off when they are done eating. If they are not going to follow the chair rule, I doubt they would follow the rest of the ordinance. Just sayin....:shocked:

[karostay]

If I choose to dine with someones pet I'll go to the dog park in Spanish Springs with a picnic basket.I will not pay for a meal and sit by someones pet.
Hope this decision work we'll for them

[DonH57]

Some of the metal outdoor chairs in some establishments are uncomfortable for people let alone dogs. No big deal to me which restaurant allows dogs on patios or not. Something for everyone.

[perrjojo]

Oh for Heaven's sake. Here we go again. TV is going to the dogs! If dogs are offensive to you, how about war, poverty, abuse? Let's find more important things to find offensive.

[marianne237]

For anyone who traveled Europe, it was common to see dogs at outdoor dining areas. HOWEVER, the animal sat or laid on the ground and was not fed while the person was eating or drinking. Do Europeans have a better grasp of politeness than we Americans?

[blueash]

What Wildwood did was add language to the city Land Use Code to allow restaurants to ask for permission to have dogs in outdoor dining.
http://www.wildwood-fl.gov/vertical/Sites/%7B2B1FDA13-2F94-4097-8D07-352D07554D9B%7D/uploads/2014.06.23_Agenda.pdf

This is required because if there is not local authorization then non-service dogs are prohibited by law. Florida law allows local counties and cities to exempt permitted restaurants from that prohibition. First the local government must adopt a permitting procedure which requires the restaurant to apply individually for a doggie dining permit. The information on the permit:
shall require, at a minimum, the following information:
1. The name, location, and mailing address of the public food service establishment.

2. The name, mailing address, and telephone contact information of the permit applicant.

3. A diagram and description of the outdoor area to be designated as available to patrons’ dogs, including dimensions of the designated area; a depiction of the number and placement of tables, chairs, and restaurant equipment, if any; the entryways and exits to the designated outdoor area; the boundaries of the designated area and of other areas of outdoor dining not available for patrons’ dogs; any fences or other barriers; surrounding property lines and public rights-of-way, including sidewalks and common pathways; and such other information reasonably required by the permitting authority. The diagram or plan shall be accurate and to scale but need not be prepared by a licensed design professional.

4. A description of the days of the week and hours of operation that patrons’ dogs will be permitted in the designated outdoor area.


Additionally there are several requirements the restaurant must follow to protect the health of the public:
Chapter 509 Section 233 - 2012 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate (http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/509.233)

1. All public food service establishment employees shall wash their hands promptly after touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs. Employees shall be prohibited from touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs while serving food or beverages or handling tableware or before entering other parts of the public food service establishment.

2. Patrons in a designated outdoor area shall be advised that they should wash their hands before eating. Waterless hand sanitizer shall be provided at all tables in the designated outdoor area.

3. Employees and patrons shall be instructed that they shall not allow dogs to come into contact with serving dishes, utensils, tableware, linens, paper products, or any other items involved in food service operations.

4. Patrons shall keep their dogs on a leash at all times and shall keep their dogs under reasonable control.

5. Dogs shall not be allowed on chairs, tables, or other furnishings.

6. All table and chair surfaces shall be cleaned and sanitized with an approved product between seating of patrons. Spilled food and drink shall be removed from the floor or ground between seating of patrons.

7. Accidents involving dog waste shall be cleaned immediately and the area sanitized with an approved product. A kit with the appropriate materials for this purpose shall be kept near the designated outdoor area.

8. A sign or signs reminding employees of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.

9. A sign or signs reminding patrons of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.

10. A sign or signs shall be posted in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority that places the public on notice that the designated outdoor area is available for the use of patrons and patrons’ dogs.

11. Dogs shall not be permitted to travel through indoor or nondesignated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment, and ingress and egress to the designated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment must not require entrance into or passage through any indoor area of the food establishment.

So you obviously will not see any dogs on chairs or off leashes. You will see sanitizer on every table. You will see the tables and chairs sanitized between patrons. You will not see any dogs being in contact with dishes or utensils. You will not see servers petting the dogs if they are serving food or drinks or handling tableware. Right?

[OBXNana]

Wouldn't a dog be a tripping hazard for a server? If we took our two labs they'd sprawl and potentially be a problem for anyone walking by. We personally, don't have dogs that would be very well behaved around food and would never take them with us to eat, but even the best behaved dog could be an issue for those walking.

[Tennisnut]

I know when I was in Hanoi, Vietnam a couple years ago, they allowed dogs in restaurants. In fact, they even had them on the menu! I doubt The Villages will come to that.

[Taltarzac725]

Islamic Concern: Dogs in Islam (http://www.islamicconcern.com/dogs.asp)

I had an Iraqi Muslim (Sunni) friend while at the University of Denver, Graduate School of Librarianship and Information Management and always found his take on pet dogs very interesting. He found them very dirty and not worth associating with in any way. Glad to see that this is not as widespread a feeling as I thought it might be among Muslims.

I had a Korean (South) friend while I was at the University of Minnesota Law School. He seemed to like dogs and cats and not to eat. He is/was a MD at a Medical School in Seoul. He is a pharmacology professor of some kind.

[Bizdoc]

Wouldn't a dog be a tripping hazard for a server? If we took our two labs they'd sprawl and potentially be a problem for anyone walking by. We personally, don't have dogs that would be very well behaved around food and would never take them with us to eat, but even the best behaved dog could be an issue for those walking.

It is kind of like taking children out to eat. Hopefully, you know if they are well enough behaved to be there.

[gomoho]

It is kind of like taking children out to eat. Hopefully, you know if they are well enough behaved to be there.

PERFECT!:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[Barefoot]

It is kind of like taking children out to eat. Hopefully, you know if they are well enough behaved to be there.

I agree.
Pet owners are usually mature and responsible people.
I think the restaurant will pick up more business than it loses.

[Cathy H]

we can be assured that all the dogs will not wear a hat in the restaurant, which could be an improvement in some places

[dewilson58]

I agree.
Pet owners are usually mature and responsible people.
I think the restaurant will pick up more business than it loses.

How do you do a Poll??.............This would be fun.

[ditka41]

Just hope they maintain a current and complete listing of all the places that allow pets so I'll know where to avoid. Have no desire to dine with dogs or use any plates, dishes, etc. that critters have touched. Consider the contamination from establishments washing their dog- bowls in the same dishwashers that "people items" go into! Totally disgusting in my opinion. They're dogs, keep them out of dining establishments. If you're so desperate for companionship you must have your pets along, please consider getting a real life.
gary

[rockyisle]

When we return in the fall, I'll definitely check out the restaurants in Wildwood that are allowing dogs. We prefer to eat outside when the weather is mild and we love dogs and cats. While we probably wouldn't take our dog out when we dine, I'm certainly not offended by them sitting near me while I eat or drink. In fact, they can be much better behaved than many of your grandchildren who come to visit... I've never heard a dog screaming in the pool at the top of its voice, driving your golf cart without you on board - tearing up the golf courses in the middle of the night... and list goes on and on...
You have all given me a great chuckle this afternoon... Good for Wildwood - they will join fabulous town like Carmel, California - which even (God Forbid) has dog bowls of fresh water outside most stores...

[Nana18]

I sure do agree - I would never go and eat where dogs are allowed. The thought of a dog eating out of a "people" plate and then a person using the same plate - even if it was washed is gross.

[RedChariot]

What Wildwood did was add language to the city Land Use Code to allow restaurants to ask for permission to have dogs in outdoor dining.
http://www.wildwood-fl.gov/vertical/Sites/%7B2B1FDA13-2F94-4097-8D07-352D07554D9B%7D/uploads/2014.06.23_Agenda.pdf

This is required because if there is not local authorization then non-service dogs are prohibited by law. Florida law allows local counties and cities to exempt permitted restaurants from that prohibition. First the local government must adopt a permitting procedure which requires the restaurant to apply individually for a doggie dining permit. The information on the permit:
shall require, at a minimum, the following information:
1. The name, location, and mailing address of the public food service establishment.

2. The name, mailing address, and telephone contact information of the permit applicant.

3. A diagram and description of the outdoor area to be designated as available to patrons� dogs, including dimensions of the designated area; a depiction of the number and placement of tables, chairs, and restaurant equipment, if any; the entryways and exits to the designated outdoor area; the boundaries of the designated area and of other areas of outdoor dining not available for patrons� dogs; any fences or other barriers; surrounding property lines and public rights-of-way, including sidewalks and common pathways; and such other information reasonably required by the permitting authority. The diagram or plan shall be accurate and to scale but need not be prepared by a licensed design professional.

4. A description of the days of the week and hours of operation that patrons� dogs will be permitted in the designated outdoor area.


Additionally there are several requirements the restaurant must follow to protect the health of the public:
Chapter 509 Section 233 - 2012 Florida Statutes - The Florida Senate (http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statutes/2012/509.233)

1. All public food service establishment employees shall wash their hands promptly after touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs. Employees shall be prohibited from touching, petting, or otherwise handling dogs while serving food or beverages or handling tableware or before entering other parts of the public food service establishment.

2. Patrons in a designated outdoor area shall be advised that they should wash their hands before eating. Waterless hand sanitizer shall be provided at all tables in the designated outdoor area.

3. Employees and patrons shall be instructed that they shall not allow dogs to come into contact with serving dishes, utensils, tableware, linens, paper products, or any other items involved in food service operations.

4. Patrons shall keep their dogs on a leash at all times and shall keep their dogs under reasonable control.

5. Dogs shall not be allowed on chairs, tables, or other furnishings.

6. All table and chair surfaces shall be cleaned and sanitized with an approved product between seating of patrons. Spilled food and drink shall be removed from the floor or ground between seating of patrons.

7. Accidents involving dog waste shall be cleaned immediately and the area sanitized with an approved product. A kit with the appropriate materials for this purpose shall be kept near the designated outdoor area.

8. A sign or signs reminding employees of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.

9. A sign or signs reminding patrons of the applicable rules shall be posted on premises in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority.

10. A sign or signs shall be posted in a manner and place as determined by the local permitting authority that places the public on notice that the designated outdoor area is available for the use of patrons and patrons� dogs.

11. Dogs shall not be permitted to travel through indoor or nondesignated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment, and ingress and egress to the designated outdoor portions of the public food service establishment must not require entrance into or passage through any indoor area of the food establishment.

So you obviously will not see any dogs on chairs or off leashes. You will see sanitizer on every table. You will see the tables and chairs sanitized between patrons. You will not see any dogs being in contact with dishes or utensils. You will not see servers petting the dogs if they are serving food or drinks or handling tableware. Right?


You all know darn well that those servers will be petting the dogs hoping for a big tip and turn right around and serve you your meal. No way they are going to a sink to wash. Pet dander will be on their clothes and then again serve you. If the dogs defecate or urinate considering they are being fed, we must be subjected to this order and bacteria. Who is libel if I trip over a dog? The dog owner or the establishment?

[perrjojo]

I sure do agree - I would never go and eat where dogs are allowed. The thought of a dog eating out of a "people" plate and then a person using the same plate - even if it was washed is gross.
Do you worry about people with contagious diseases having eaten off a plate you may eat from? Happens every day.
Do you avoid eating in homes of friends who have pets? I'll bet their pet may have shared a people plate at least once.

[wendyquat]

Pretty ridiculous stuff! There are probably more residents urinating or defacating in their Depends on the patios than dogs! Can y'all just move on before my dog reads this and gets ideas?

[gerryann]

I have to admit. A lot of these comments make me laugh.

There are so many things to get upset about....why pick something so trivial? This is so insignificant in the scheme of things. It has such a simple solution......just stay away from these places. The folks that love dogs will be there in your place. This is a very positive business decision for the restaurant and I hope more follow suit.

[gomoho]

Pretty ridiculous stuff! There are probably more residents urinating or defacating in their Depends on the patios than dogs! Can y'all just move on before my dog reads this and gets ideas?

:a20::a20::a20:

[Bizdoc]

I submit that my dog is not only smarter than your grandkid, she's probably got better hygiene.

Don't you have something better to obcess about, like stickers on mail boxes or the change in music on WVLG?

[Topspinmo]

I have pet, I never consider taking her to Restaurant, public outings, or to the movies.:popcorn:
I guess I don't consider her as one of the children. :boom: As far as them eating off plates, I would imagine majority people will WASH them! :clap2::ho: well maybe not from some of the stories I hear around here?:popcorn::blahblahblah:

[Patty55]

I sure do agree - I would never go and eat where dogs are allowed. The thought of a dog eating out of a "people" plate and then a person using the same plate - even if it was washed is gross.

Helloooo, they don't get a people plate. Any place I've been to has given a disposable dish.

[Patty55]

we can be assured that all the dogs will not wear a hat in the restaurant, which could be an improvement in some places

Mine sometimes wear them, but only when they wear their blue dresses.

[buggyone]

Pretty ridiculous stuff! There are probably more residents urinating or defacating in their Depends on the patios than dogs! Can y'all just move on before my dog reads this and gets ideas?

This is the BEST post that has been on TOTV in a long time. :bigbow:

[gerryann]

I have pet, I never consider taking her to Restaurant, public outings, or to the movies.:popcorn:
I guess I don't consider her as one of the children. :boom: As far as them eating off plates, I would imagine majority people will WASH them! :clap2::ho: well maybe not from some of the stories I hear around here?:popcorn::blahblahblah:

My dog does such an amazing job cleaning the plates. It's a big savings not having to use the dishwasher. I'm saving on water, detergent, electricity......and biggest savings is no more dog food. :a040:

[tanbcu]

keep the animals home,they stink

[Patty55]

Okay Kiddies, listen up... I've done some serious thinking about this for about two minutes. (Dwelling longer on such drivel would clog my ethers with negativity and suck my brain out.)

Any of you want to tell a restaurant how to run their business should take their money and buy one, spend 20 hours a day working at it only to get hocked by people wanting to share their $6 entree and then deal with the constant complaining. Until you put your money and time on the line your only choice is go or don't go.

If any of you want to control decisions of Wildwood or Sumter County run for office. You can make all kinds of important decisions about stickers on mailboxes and piddling poodles. As a bonus I'm sure it pays big bucks :ohdear:

[jblum315]

I've seen 3-yer-olds behave worse than any dog could. Also, if you worry about dogs and germs, be assured that the average young child carries far more dangerous germs than any dog.

[Patty55]

Wouldn't a dog be a tripping hazard for a server? If we took our two labs they'd sprawl and potentially be a problem for anyone walking by. We personally, don't have dogs that would be very well behaved around food and would never take them with us to eat, but even the best behaved dog could be an issue for those walking.

Oh please, like you need a dog to trip people. I usually just stick my leg out when out of control children are speeding around. Works better than a dog, don't want the dog getting hurt when the kid falls.

[duffysmom]

Pretty ridiculous stuff! There are probably more residents urinating or defacating in their Depends on the patios than dogs! Can y'all just move on before my dog reads this and gets ideas?.

So true!! Personally I don't use the public pools for that reason. I'm in favor of dogs being allowed to dine on restaurant patios. :a040:
Also they don't eat, drink or use the silverware; they have doggie dishes and are far more civilized than some of the bar patrons I've observed.:ohdear:

[CFrance]

Do you worry about people with contagious diseases having eaten off a plate you may eat from? Happens every day.
Do you avoid eating in homes of friends who have pets? I'll bet their pet may have shared a people plate at least once.
Yeah. See my post about the couple last winter just getting over the flu and showing up for the free meal at Carrabba's. Unfortunately, they sat at our table. I would much rather have a dog as a dining companion. At least they keep their germs on the floor.

Besides, doesn't the health department require dishwasher water be hot enough to sanitize the dishes? Even my home dishwasher does that. Sheesh.

[Villageswimmer]

For anyone who traveled Europe, it was common to see dogs at outdoor dining areas. HOWEVER, the animal sat or laid on the ground and was not fed while the person was eating or drinking. Do Europeans have a better grasp of politeness than we Americans?



Right, very commonplace in Europe. I don't know...for some reason dogs seem to be much better behaved/trained there than here. I've never seen one misbehave or beg or try to sit on a lap or chair. They act like dogs, not people. And no...I don't hate dogs. I really like them.

[Madelaine Amee]

Okay Kiddies, listen up... I've done some serious thinking about this for about two minutes. (Dwelling longer on such drivel would clog my ethers with negativity and suck my brain out.)

Any of you want to tell a restaurant how to run their business should take their money and buy one, spend 20 hours a day working at it only to get hocked by people wanting to share their $6 entree and then deal with the constant complaining. Until you put your money and time on the line your only choice is go or don't go.

If any of you want to control decisions of Wildwood or Sumter County run for office. You can make all kinds of important decisions about stickers on mailboxes and piddling poodles. As a bonus I'm sure it pays big bucks :ohdear:

:bigbow: Sheer genius Patty! Tell it like it is .....................

[Bizdoc]

Okay Kiddies, listen up... I've done some serious thinking about this for about two minutes. (Dwelling longer on such drivel would clog my ethers with negativity and suck my brain out.)

Any of you want to tell a restaurant how to run their business should take their money and buy one, spend 20 hours a day working at it only to get hocked by people wanting to share their $6 entree and then deal with the constant complaining. Until you put your money and time on the line your only choice is go or don't go.

If any of you want to control decisions of Wildwood or Sumter County run for office. You can make all kinds of important decisions about stickers on mailboxes and piddling poodles. As a bonus I'm sure it pays big bucks :ohdear:

Well said!

[DonH57]

Oh please, like you need a dog to trip people. I usually just stick my leg out when out of control children are speeding around. Works better than a dog, don't want the dog getting hurt when the kid falls.

That does slows them down doesn't it?:popcorn:

[DonH57]

Yeah. See my post about the couple last winter just getting over the flu and showing up for the free meal at Carrabba's. Unfortunately, they sat at our table. I would much rather have a dog as a dining companion. At least they keep their germs on the floor.

Besides, doesn't the health department require dishwasher water be hot enough to sanitize the dishes? Even my home dishwasher does that. Sheesh.

I forgot the exact temperature range but wash and rinse have to be within a specified amount.

[CFrance]

Right, very commonplace in Europe. I don't know...for some reason dogs seem to be much better behaved/trained there than here. I've never seen one misbehave or beg or try to sit on a lap or chair. They act like dogs, not people. And no...I don't hate dogs. I really like them.
I and my dog were actually part of an after-work exercise-your-dog group in a European city. Most Europeans do not look upon their dogs as children. They are pets and companions, but they are not accorded human attributes as we tend to do in the States. I think that goes a long way toward explaining how the dogs act in restaurants. They aren't coddled at home.

The dogs themselves are not as people-oriented as our dogs are here. I believe that is due to the fact that they are kept on a separate emotional level from people. You don't see a lot of people fawning over your dog over there. He's just matter-of-fact "there."

Dogs are allowed inside many restaurants in Europe, as well as on the outside patios. They are all well behaved.

One of our favorite restaurants had a resident cat. He used to come sit next to me in the booth, usually on my knitted hat. I loved it.

[graciegirl]

I and my dog were actually part of an after-work exercise-your-dog group in a European city. Most Europeans do not look upon their dogs as children. They are pets and companions, but they are not accorded human attributes as we tend to do in the States. I think that goes a long way toward explaining how the dogs act in restaurants. They aren't coddled at home.

The dogs themselves are not as people-oriented as our dogs are here. I believe that is due to the fact that they are kept on a separate emotional level from people. You don't see a lot of people fawning over your dog over there. He's just matter-of-fact "there."

Dogs are allowed inside many restaurants in Europe, as well as on the outside patios. They are all well behaved.

One of our favorite restaurants had a resident cat. He used to come sit next to me in the booth, usually on my knitted hat. I loved it.


Dans mon maladroit fran�ais Une fois, j'ai demand� � un chauffeur de taxi pourquoi des enfants fran�ais et chiens fran�ais si bien comport�. Sa r�ponse? Nous les avons battus.

[Villageswimmer]

I and my dog were actually part of an after-work exercise-your-dog group in a European city. Most Europeans do not look upon their dogs as children. They are pets and companions, but they are not accorded human attributes as we tend to do in the States. I think that goes a long way toward explaining how the dogs act in restaurants. They aren't coddled at home.

The dogs themselves are not as people-oriented as our dogs are here. I believe that is due to the fact that they are kept on a separate emotional level from people. You don't see a lot of people fawning over your dog over there. He's just matter-of-fact "there."

Dogs are allowed inside many restaurants in Europe, as well as on the outside patios. They are all well behaved.

One of our favorite restaurants had a resident cat. He used to come sit next to me in the booth, usually on my knitted hat. I loved it.


Well put, CFrance. I was going to say essentially the same thing, but chickened out. What a coward I am.

I had to laugh...where you say people don't fawn over your dog. I did this once and the Frenchman looked at me as though I were out of my mind. Funny.

[CFrance]

Dans mon maladroit fran�ais Une fois, j'ai demand� � un chauffeur de taxi pourquoi des enfants fran�ais et chiens fran�ais si bien comport�. Sa r�ponse? Nous les avons battus.
Ah oui! J'ai entendu la m�me chose. Je n'ai jamais vu, m�me si.

[big guy]

Oh for Heaven's sake. Here we go again. TV is going to the dogs! If dogs are offensive to you, how about war, poverty, abuse? Let's find more important things to find offensive.

It's ridiculous to compare this to war, poverty or abuse!

[big guy]

We don't live in Europe!

[CFrance]

It's ridiculous to compare this to war, poverty or abuse!
I think that was perrjojo's point.

[perrjojo]

It's ridiculous to compare this to war, poverty or abuse!
Exactly....this is ricidulous. Put your energy into something that REALLY matters.

[Cisco Kid]

If my dog licks a Villagers @ a restaurant will she get a STD.
I have read that you 'all are infected.

[CFrance]

If my dog licks a Villagers @ a restaurant will she get a STD.
I have read that you 'all are infected.
Ohhhhhhhhhh, Cisco!:ohdear:

[Cisco Kid]

You all know darn well that those servers will be petting the dogs hoping for a big tip and turn right around and serve you your meal. No way they are going to a sink to wash. Pet dander will be on their clothes and then again serve you. If the dogs defecate or urinate considering they are being fed, we must be subjected to this order and bacteria. Who is libel if I trip over a dog? The dog owner or the establishment?

I have found that ones that worry about defecating & urinating do so because it is a issue for them.

[perrjojo]

I have found that ones that worry about defecating & urinating do so because it is a issue for them.
:highfive: now that's funny. I don't care who you are. (Larry the Cable a Guy.)

[Cisco Kid]

Okay Kiddies, listen up... I've done some serious thinking about this for about two minutes. (Dwelling longer on such drivel would clog my ethers with negativity and suck my brain out.)

Any of you want to tell a restaurant how to run their business should take their money and buy one, spend 20 hours a day working at it only to get hocked by people wanting to share their $6 entree and then deal with the constant complaining. Until you put your money and time on the line your only choice is go or don't go.

If any of you want to control decisions of Wildwood or Sumter County run for office. You can make all kinds of important decisions about stickers on mailboxes and piddling poodles. As a bonus I'm sure it pays big bucks :ohdear:

Patty You I like
:bigbow:

[perrjojo]

There are many restaurants in Florida that allow dogs. How many times have you seen dogs in restaurants? Honestly, this is much ado about nothing. It's not like there will be a pack of dogs in every restaurant.

[Barefoot]

There are so many things to get upset about....why pick something so trivial? This is so insignificant in the scheme of things. It has such a simple solution......just stay away from these places. The folks that love dogs will be there in your place. This is a very positive business decision for the restaurant and I hope more follow suit.


My dog does such an amazing job cleaning the plates. It's a big savings not having to use the dishwasher. I'm saving on water, detergent, electricity......and biggest savings is no more dog food. :a040:


Oh please, like you need a dog to trip people. I usually just stick my leg out when out of control children are speeding around. Works better than a dog, don't want the dog getting hurt when the kid falls.


If my dog licks a Villagers @ a restaurant, will she get a STD. I have read that you all are infected.

:bigbow:

[travelguy]

am not very interested in dining with a dog at the next table; then again I do not want to dine with children at the next table, or men with baseball caps, or men with muscle shirts and hairy armpits. i guess i will stay home.

[CFrance]

am not very interested in dining with a dog at the next table; then again I do not want to dine with children at the next table, or men with baseball caps, or men with muscle shirts and hairy armpits. i guess i will stay home.
I was gonna say... that doesn't leave you with a whole lot of options!

[graciegirl]

Okay Kiddies, listen up... I've done some serious thinking about this for about two minutes. (Dwelling longer on such drivel would clog my ethers with negativity and suck my brain out.)

Any of you want to tell a restaurant how to run their business should take their money and buy one, spend 20 hours a day working at it only to get hocked by people wanting to share their $6 entree and then deal with the constant complaining. Until you put your money and time on the line your only choice is go or don't go.

If any of you want to control decisions of Wildwood or Sumter County run for office. You can make all kinds of important decisions about stickers on mailboxes and piddling poodles. As a bonus I'm sure it pays big bucks :ohdear:



Patty.


Please run for something. ANYTHING. You stand for all I believe in.:bigbow:

[Cisco Kid]

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[ilovetv]

This thread (linked below) explained in great detail the problem of unknown dogs meeting each other and reacting to the other dog aggressively or even savagely.

Posts #6 and #8 give good insights and Post #6 seems like an excellent way of introducing stranger dogs to each other. But "meeting in neutral territory first" is not going to happen as people bring in stranger dogs into a crowded or cramped and busy restaurant patio.

So how then, do people expect strangers' dogs to meet each other in a restaurant patio, under foot of patrons and servers, without aggression while many owners have done little or no training/socialization of the dog?

After seeing a big, leashed dog on the sidewalk diving under the railings of the patio at Johnny Rockets to viciously attack two docile small dogs just resting under the table, I believe the potential for dogfights in a restaurant patio, under patrons/servers' feet, is a huge liability and a terrifying sight to see.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/all-about-pets-120/dog-owners-only-how-introduce-your-dog-another-dog-how-not-118507/

[RedChariot]

This thread (linked below) explained in great detail the problem of unknown dogs meeting each other and reacting to the other dog aggressively or even savagely.

Posts #6 and #8 give good insights and Post #6 seems like an excellent way of introducing stranger dogs to each other. But "meeting in neutral territory first" is not going to happen as people bring in stranger dogs into a crowded or cramped and busy restaurant patio.

So how then, do people expect strangers' dogs to meet each other in a restaurant patio, under foot of patrons and servers, without aggression and owners who have done little or no training/socialization of the dog?

After seeing a big, leashed dog on the sidewalk diving under the railings of the patio at Johnny Rockets and viciously attack two docile small dogs just resting under the table, I believe the potential for dogfights in a restaurant patio, under patrons/servers' feet, is a huge liability and a terrifying sight to see.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/all-about-pets-120/dog-owners-only-how-introduce-your-dog-another-dog-how-not-118507/


Thank you for your thoughtful post. I fear that it may fall on deaf ears on TOTV. The posters/dog owners do not want to hear any possible serious repercussions to bringing their dogs to restaurants. They seem to just want to make jokes about it and not give serious thought to potential problems and liabilities.

[Cisco Kid]

Thank you for your thoughtful post. I fear that it may fall on deaf ears on TOTV. The posters/dog owners do not want to hear any possible serious repercussions to bringing their dogs to restaurants. They seem to just want to make jokes about it and not give serious thought to potential problems and liabilities.

RedChariot I can answer why I for one do not take you serious and make jokes.
If you look at you past post you jump is on all the dog hate threads.
I LOVE MY DOGS.
I too jump in to defend them.
You should see me defend them in person.
I do not believe you are truly concerned about the issue or the dog.
Maybe you are a kind loving person.
But I can only judge from what you post.
I do not post attracts on your loved ones.
Yes it may seem odd to you, but may dogs are my loved ones.

[graciegirl]

I understand what you are saying Cisco, and Red Chariot and Ilovetv.


I don't have a dog. I like them but we have kitties. We did have little children but they grew up and had babies and then they grew up. All of the time of the raising of the babies and since I was 12 I have lived in the house with kitties. Children and kitties. Now grown ups and kitties.


They are soft and furry and they make terrible messes sometimes and cause a LOT of work. I enjoy them and sometimes worry about them and take care of them and our home too. Both Sweetie and I and Helene, work much harder to keep things clean than if we didn't have them.


It is hard to understand others who don't have a soft spot for animals just as it is hard for them to understand me. I know they have wonderful qualities, are kind and fair and reasonable and funny and good. There are many, many people who love animals but don't want to go to restaurants where there are animals. They have every right to feel that way.


There is something for everyone here in this lovely place. Restaurants of all kinds but NONE as good as those on the east coast. I haven't ever lived on the east coast so it really must be fun to dine out there. I am from Ohio where people know how to cook simple things so we dine in a lot. I like to cook. I don't mind if dogs are present when I am eating.


I try as hard as I can to find good in people and I also love to joke.
Good morning everyone. It is a LOVELY day in The Villages.