TOTV March Monthly Luncheon

[villages07]

There was some general discussion about the timing of the March luncheon during the Feb event. The consensus seemed to be to keep it at the 3rd Friday of the month, which translates to March 21. This does coincide with Good Friday and "high season" will be winding down, so, we may not see the wonderful turnout that we had in February. For those in town on March 21 and not otherwise busy with family or other special events, come join the TOTV group at Crispers at 3pm.

[redwitch]

Hope y'all have fun. Sorry, but this is one luncheon I won't be making.

[REDCART]

Terrible decision!!! We're promoting the erosion of our culture in America and no body cares. Doesn't respect for traditional religious values count any more?

George

[Pete]

George,

I guess it just all boils down to ones own priorities.

:dontknow:

[Taltarzac]

Have to wait and see what kind of company we have at this time around Easter and I could be in the Tampa Bay area again around then. :dontknow:

[redwitch]

I don't know how many were part of the discussion to have the luncheon on Good Friday. I know I wasn't. Personally, Good Friday is too important to me and my faith to attend a luncheon on that day. I'm with George, the decision is just wrong and very disappointing.

[villages07]

Cmon folks, it's just an announcement for a luncheon...let's not turn it into a political or religious debate....save that for another forum area. People will drink, play golf, and do all sorts of other human things on 3/21....let's not turn the TOTV luncheon into a good vs bad decision. If you're busy for the March luncheon, for whatever your reason, there's always April 18th or May 16th, etc etc.

[golfnut]

Well said v07 and also Pete, this is a choice each person will make for themselves, simple as that, next topic please, just my .02 cents.

[chelsea24]

:dontknow: I wasn't even aware of a discussion about when to have it. Too busy having fun I guess. But geesh, take a chill pill peeps. George, I don't think a luncheon erodes the American culture at all. I think it is the American culture. I think we all respect everyone's religious rights. This is kind of like -- if you don't like what's on television, change the channel! Again, I hardly think a lunch at Crisper's is an attack on anyone's right to attend it or not to attend it because of their own personal beliefs. I know my personal Savior would smile down on a wonderful, friendly group of people enjoying each other's company. This is not about eroding America, this is America -- which translates to freedom. Just my opinion. :)

[nONIE]

George,

Should we not have it on Saturday because its the Jewish Sabbath...
Should we not have it on Sunday because its the Christian day of worship...
Should we not have it on Ramadan,Islam or Buddhism, or animism days of worship....

and the list goes on and on. I am not trying to be totally facetious but I do believe this a very personal decision and if you dint feel right about joining us, then please don't and we will respect your decision. Please try and respect ours.

[beady]

Chelsea , Nonie, Village 07 :agree: :agree:
George:
We are talking about individual choice here, that is the American Culture, and our most valuable one.
I consider myself a religious person and I am not offended by a luncheon on Good Friday.I respect what others do to keep their traditions, and I do not criticize their choices. To each his own. IMHO

[redwitch]

Nonie, I know a couple of people asked me and all I could tell them was I knew nothing. I have no idea who actually made the decision or who was in on the discussion. So, to me, part of the issue is that I have no clue who made the decision or how many were involved. A consensus of three out of a group of twenty would not seem right to my mind. A consensus of ten out of twenty would put things in a much different light. As I said, I have no idea how many were asked.

I do believe that some religious/holiday observances should be followed and things changed accordingly. To me, these include Rosh Hashanah, Passover, Good Friday and Easter, Ramadan (change the time to after sundown so that any Islamic friends could partake), Thanksgiving, Christmas and, of course, Super Bowl Sunday.

I do respect that people have a right to do as they choose on any of these days. That doesn't mean I can't be disappointed in choices made. On this choice, I am very disappointed, but I'll see y'all in April!

[Pete]

A possible solution to the problem might be to have Village Kid lead a service,

then everyone would be accommodated for the day.






Just a thought

[handieman]

:yikes:
OMG you kids sound like the kids on my school bus. ("Busdriver, I don't want Jane sitting with me Friday OK?")
If the majority decided on the date then so be it. If some, for personal reasons, cannot attend, then so be it. Now go back in your seat and get along or I'll assign seats. :cop:
Handie :joke:
Shame on you kids :chillout:

[Donna]

:yikes:
OMG you kids sound like the kids on my school bus. ("Busdriver, I don't want Jane sitting with me Friday OK?")
If the majority decided on the date then so be it. If some, for personal reasons, cannot attend, then so be it. Now go back in your seat and get along or I'll assign seats. :cop:
Handie :joke:
Shame on you kids :chillout:

http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/grouphugg.gif (http://www.millan.net)

[another Linda]

I have just read the controversy about the March get together. Yes, it is Good Friday, and for many Roman Catholics 3pm is a significant hour. Any chance we could put moving the date to a vote via TOTV?

[JohnnyM]

I'm sorry and I stand corrected. I was not aware that mass was held at 3pm. I should have known better than to voice an opinion without knowing all the facts. Mea culpa, Johnny

[Taltarzac]

I have just read the controversy about the March get together. Yes, it is Good Friday, and for many Roman Catholics 3pm is a significant hour. Any chance we could put moving the date to a vote via TOTV?


I was raised a Lutheran so I am not sure of the significance of 3 pm on Good Friday for Roman Catholics but did Google it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Friday

[REDCART]

Linda, I'm curious how a vote might turn out. But it's really immaterial because TOTV has several thousand members but only a relative few can make it to Crispers each month. It's really that group who should have a say on the March meeting, and they'll have their say March 21st.

I don't consider myself particularly religious but I consider a meeting of any kind on a significant religious holy day to be offensive. It shows a lack of respect for people of faith and is part of a general movement to marginalize religion in American. Redwitch, I salute you and your willingness to stand up and be counted.

George

[another Linda]

George, I guess I am silly enough to believe that only those who might come would vote.

For me, I am certainly a practicing Catholic, but have never gotten hung up on the specific details. While I would not eat meat on Good Friday, I personally would go to a TOTV luncheon without feeling like that was somehow improper. I am sure that others would not be as casual as I am though.

Red, I'm sure you are not alone and I would vote to change to a different day. I want to meet as many of you as possible.

[redwitch]

LOL Linda -- I'll eat meat on Good Friday but Mass is important. Go figure.

[Muncle]

It's from long ago memory, but I don't believe the RCs do Mass on Good Friday. There is a service, but no consecration and consequently, no mass. I remember from altar boy days that the priest had to consecrate extra host on Holy Thursday to use on Friday.

This could be considered a bit picky on my part, but I know you deal with the full truth. :joke:

[redwitch]

Fine, services at 3:00 ... picky, picky, picky.

[Village Kid 2]

Wow! Being away from a computer for several days is very freeing and this thread surely is unexpected. I guess any subject can generate a debate.

I was one of the folks who discussed the March meeting. The main thing we talked about was consistency (same time, same place) since the TOTV meetings are in their infancy.

So, no offense intended to anyone. It is just a posted get together for anyone who wants to attend. The flow of folks is different from month to month, just depending on who is available. It would be impossible to accomodate everyone's wishes.

VK

[Peggy D]

:dontknow: I wasn't even aware of a discussion about when to have it. Too busy having fun I guess. But geesh, take a chill pill peeps. George, I don't think a luncheon erodes the American culture at all. I think it is the American culture. I think we all respect everyone's religious rights. This is kind of like -- if you don't like what's on television, change the channel! Again, I hardly think a lunch at Crisper's is an attack on anyone's right to attend it or not to attend it because of their own personal beliefs. I know my personal Savior would smile down on a wonderful, friendly group of people enjoying each other's company. This is not about eroding America, this is America -- which translates to freedom. Just my opinion. :)


Well said.

[islandgal]

Oh dear - Just three meetings and we are already into this....

Personally, I think the meeting should be set permanently as is with the exception of Christmas and New Year's.

If March is rescheduled, then there will be another reason to reschedule in April, May, or whatever.
I respect and understand anyone's priorities.

Just my opinion.....

[jerseygirl008]

Holy Molley! I agree with Handie, VK, and wiw1819. Same time, same place each month, otherwise, any reason - for anyone, would illicit a change of time and date,and then location - this would prevent people from planning and knowing when the luncheon is held each month. Why should a certain number of people be needed to make a decision like this? Last I recall, the 3rd of every month was the agreed arrangement. Tough that one of the months luncheon falls on Good Friday. Even if the luncheon date falls on Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc., I think it would be great to share our faith and thankfulness with other TVers.

Life is not fair, sometimes we cannot make every event (b/c of work, church, weddings, illness, etc.). IMHO,life is too short to be critical of stuff like this. There are real serious problems in our world where we need to take a stand. I don't think a 2 hr. luncheon on Good Friday is one of them. My 2cents.

[samhass]

Stay the course. Same place, same time.

[Taltarzac]

So, the 3rd Friday of...

March 2008 is March 21 (Good Friday)
April 2008 is April 18
May 2008 is May 16
June 2008 is June 20
July 2008 is July 18
August 2008 is August 15
September 2008 is September 19 (POW/MIA Recognition Day)
October 2008 is October 17
November 2008 is November 21
December 2008 is December 19
January 2009 is January 16
February 2009 is February 20
March 2009 is March 20
April 2009 is April 17
May 2009 is May 15
June 2009 is June 19
July 2009 is July 17
August 2009 is August 21
September 2009 is September 18
October 2009 is October 16
November 2009 is November 20
December 2009 is December 18
January 2010 is January 15
February 2010 is February 19
March 2010 is March 19

[nhsnowbird]

I'm for keeping to the schedule ... if you can't make it for personal or other reasons, I think that should be okay ... no explanation required. Life's too short...we should enjoy what we can when we can.

[DickY]

I agree. :agree: This is a make it if you can type of meeting and a personal choice.

[beady]

Thanks Tal for the run down of dates.

::) Looks like we are okay for a good long time on the 3rd Friday of the month.

[Taltarzac]

Thanks Tal for the run down of dates.

::) Looks like we are okay for a good long time on the 3rd Friday of the month.


You are welcome. I did not see any holidays coming up for quite some time. Another Good Friday in 2019 on the 3rd Friday of April just before Easter April 21, 2019. http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/index.html?year=2019&country=1 Even if "Good Friday" is not an official holiday, just wanted to mention it.

[F16 1UB]

Okay I'll be there. But make sure we have bread, wine, and I'll bring a fish (maybe) that way I may be able to perform a miracle. Amen! It's just a suggestion. Geesh. ::)

[The Great Fumar]

I can't believe what I'm reading here ....I'm with HANDI , go the the back of the bus.....Leave your pails and shovels at home.............

[Hyacinth Bucket]

Hi Tal,

We have company so I haven't been keeping up with the various chats. I was going to post what you posted about the dates. Thanks for doing it.

As for my own personal feelings, I think I lean more toward changing a date if it falls on an important religious holiday. We would not be the first organization to make that change. I have seen it happen many times. According to Tal's posting we are talking about one month out of about 24 months.

The reason I am leaning toward changing the date is because 1. it is very important to some of the members and 2. respecting their feelings.

What I feel good about is the dialogue about this. People have voiced their feelings and I do not recall anyone saying they will never attend this meeting if they do not get their way. This is a true forum discussion.

In upstate NY where I live we have alternative dates for many meetings, not due to religious holidays, but because of weather. Everyone accepts these change of dates as just being part of life.

Just my thoughts.

Hyacinth Bucket

[Taltarzac]

Hi Tal,

We have company so I haven't been keeping up with the various chats. I was going to post what you posted about the dates. Thanks for doing it.



You are welcome, Hyacinth Bucket.

Think we should stick to the original plan of the 3rd Friday of each month for the luncheons. Not sure who made this plan, but it will conflict with some people's schedules no matter on which day we have the TOTV meetings. I had to leave the Villages Computer Club Friday February 15, 2008 meeting early to insure that I made it to Crispers by 3:00 pm.

[scottke]

Thanks for the list of dates. Missed the last meeting even though we were in TV but we had a delivery coming between 3-5:00 - maybe next time we are down. Last week of March for us so I'll miss it once again. Meet all of you soon.

[chelsea24]

OK, maybe this is not on track, but being of the feline persuasion, I just want to comment on the beautiful canines I am seeing here. Beady, Dicky, woof. Beautiful! :-*

p.s. Can anyone tell I'm missing having a dog???