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LorasBetty
07-10-2014, 07:57 PM
Our friend was very lucky!

Four of us were golfing last evening at Turtle Mound. Our friend (Gary) was about 4'-5' from the water's edge retrieving his ball when a very large alligator literally sprung out of the water and latched onto his lower leg. The friend fell and for some unknown reason the alligator let go. Gary jumped to his feet and got away. He escaped with just a slight leg puncture probably due to having jeans on.

I witnessed this from the green and don't think I'll ever forget the size of the alligator with his mouth wide open - VERY scary! My husband had two clubs and was on his way to help when Gary "escaped"!

The incident was reported this morning and Village authorities immediately began taking steps to locate and remove the gator.

SO . . . please let this be a warning to NOT go anywhere near the water. Alligators ARE there and alligators ARE dangerous.

Taltarzac725
07-10-2014, 08:07 PM
Our friend was very lucky!

Four of us were golfing last evening at Turtle Mound. Our friend (Gary) was about 4'-5' from the water's edge retrieving his ball when a very large alligator literally sprung out of the water and latched onto his lower leg. The friend fell and for some unknown reason the alligator let go. Gary jumped to his feet and got away. He escaped with just a slight leg puncture probably due to having jeans on.

I witnessed this from the green and don't think I'll ever forget the size of the alligator with his mouth wide open - VERY scary! My husband had two clubs and was on his way to help when Gary "escaped"!

The incident was reported this morning and Village authorities immediately began taking steps to locate and remove the gator.

SO . . . please let this be a warning to NOT go anywhere near the water. Alligators ARE there and alligators ARE dangerous.

So sorry about this horrifying experience you had.

Blessed2BNTV
07-10-2014, 08:11 PM
Thank you for posting and reminding us that we have to be careful near ponds.

Rosiecruiser
07-10-2014, 08:16 PM
I had the same experience last Saturday, about 4-5' away from the water and one was hovering. My friend said, for me to just hit my shot, she had a club ready, NOT!!!!!!!!!

buggyone
07-10-2014, 08:30 PM
I will most likely get flack for posting this.

The people get into the alligator's habitat and then it is the alligator that gets killed by the people. We all know that where there is water in Florida, there is very likely an alligator. Getting to the edge of a water hazard is an invite to the alligator to attack. The alligator at Turtle Mound will not be "relocated" to a marsh away from people to live out his estimated 35 years of life. He will be dragged out of the pond after being hooked by a large treble hook and will then be shot to death. The alligator killer will get to sell the alligator skin for a good price and the meat will be sold to tourist restaurants.

It is great that your friend escaped unharmed. I am sure he did get medical care for the puncture wound as an alligator does have all sorts of bacteria in his mouth and it can cause a serious infection.

eweissenbach
07-10-2014, 08:32 PM
Very scary indeed, but the important question is, how did you shoot?

DonH57
07-10-2014, 08:44 PM
Yes. Your friend was very lucky. Happy to hear he is ok. Any of these lakes or ponds here in the villages may contain an alligator. As a fellow golfer may I suggest the purchase of an extendable ball retriever to reach near areas marked as no entry or close. Going into bushes may be just as bad due to snakes or spiders.

DougB
07-10-2014, 08:49 PM
I will most likely get flack for posting this.

The people get into the alligator's habitat and then it is the alligator that gets killed by the people. We all know that where there is water in Florida, there is very likely an alligator. Getting to the edge of a water hazard is an invite to the alligator to attack. The alligator at Turtle Mound will not be "relocated" to a marsh away from people to live out his estimated 35 years of life. He will be dragged out of the pond after being hooked by a large treble hook and will then be shot to death. The alligator killer will get to sell the alligator skin for a good price and the meat will be sold to tourist restaurants.

It is great that your friend escaped unharmed. I am sure he did get medical care for the puncture wound as an alligator does have all sorts of bacteria in his mouth and it can cause a serious infection.

You don't need to be near water to encounter a gator here. We saw one go into our neighbor's garage the other day. Don't know what could have happened had he gone into his garage to get in his car without knowing it was there. One of my very brave other neighbor's grabbed it while I taped his mouth shut. We took it down to the preserve down the street, untaped it, and let it go.

gerryann
07-10-2014, 09:36 PM
You don't need to be near water to encounter a gator here. We saw one go into our neighbor's garage the other day. Don't know what could have happened had he gone into his garage to get in his car without knowing it was there. One of my very brave other neighbor's grabbed it while I taped his mouth shut. We took it down to the preserve down the street, untaped it, and let it go.

I'm so happy that you let it go and didn't kill it. :BigApplause:

Miles42
07-10-2014, 09:40 PM
One of hazards other than sand traps on a Florida course. Glad all turned out well.

Bonanza
07-10-2014, 10:26 PM
I often see people walking their small dogs by some of our small ponds/lakes, very close to the water's edge. I think to myself why these people are so foolish to do that. You never know when a gator will spring into action just like the incident related here.

Sage327
07-10-2014, 10:54 PM
How do people get away with kayaking down here?

Barefoot
07-10-2014, 10:55 PM
Any of these lakes or ponds here in the villages may contain an alligator. As a fellow golfer may I suggest the purchase of an extendable ball retriever to reach near areas marked as no entry or close.

I've never been able to understand why people want to retrieve golf balls from water, knowing there that it's possible there are gators in the pond. It's just not worth it. I saw a gator come out of the water one day and he was moving like lightening. Please, don't take chances. Stay away from water.

Villageshooter
07-11-2014, 12:14 AM
I often see people walking their small dogs by some of our small ponds/lakes, very close to the water's edge. I think to myself why these people are so foolish to do that. You never know when a gator will spring into action just like the incident related here.
i have always worried on hot day about the bushes on the boardwalk ,, and folks that let there grandkids run on the boardwalk like a bunch of wild indians and a gator latches onto them while hiding in the busches

44Ruger
07-11-2014, 01:01 AM
How do people get away with kayaking down here?

We are not the prey of these critters. That's why the golfer was spit out as the gator realized the mistake. With a little caution, we could live with the Florida native gators.

Cisco Kid
07-11-2014, 05:27 AM
The gator bite would not have bothered me.
I would have drop dead from a heart attact when it jumped at me.
:eek::eek::eek:

ajbrown
07-11-2014, 06:06 AM
Very scary indeed. One second you are grumbling about a lost ball and the next you are inside of a gators jaws...:22yikes:

Glad he is OK, will heed the warning. As I read your post I did keep thinking a line was coming ... "hit the ball drag Gary", but that must be another story....

kittygilchrist
07-11-2014, 06:15 AM
Someone gets seriously hurt or killed, alligators will be harvested on a more aggressive scale.

Taltarzac725
07-11-2014, 07:19 AM
C3 in today's Villages Daily Sun has a small story about this.

Here's a good source of information about alligators and crocodiles in Florida. http://www.myfwc.com/conservation/you-conserve/wildlife/gators/

George Bieniaszek
07-11-2014, 08:28 AM
The gator bite would not have bothered me.
I would have drop dead from a heart attack when it jumped at me.
:eek::eek::eek:

I agree Cisco. Prior to the heart attack, I would have first soiled myself!! :sing:

zonerboy
07-11-2014, 09:25 AM
I think this happens because most people assume that if there is an alligator in the water close to where their golf ball is they will be able to see it.
I'm no expert but would assume that part of the reason these animals are so successful in their habitat is that they have developed the ability to remain absolutely still for long periods of time and they are able to camouflage themselves in water quite well.
Don't assume there are no gators just because you don't see one.

rubicon
07-11-2014, 03:57 PM
I've never been able to understand why people want to retrieve golf balls from water, knowing there that it's possible there are gators in the pond. It's just not worth it. I saw a gator come out of the water one day and he was moving like lightening. Please, don't take chances. Stay away from water.

Barefoot: I agree but for a different reason. Once a ball hits water it becomes addicted to it and its certain that the first chance it gets its going back for a fix

LorasBetty
07-11-2014, 05:46 PM
After reading the replies to my original post I realize I used the wrong terminology in explaining what Gary was doing.

He was not RETRIEVING a ball from the water but ADDRESSING the ball on the grass 4'-5' from the water's edge. After what happened I won't even go that close to the water to hit my ball . . . ever!!

ron122049
07-11-2014, 06:13 PM
So glad to hear your friend is safe. It would have scared the hell out of me and I've seen a lot of very bad things. As for the gator and I know I'll probably get some grief, this is not a nature preserve, it's a residential community. Things that are dangerous to people or pets don't belong here in my opinion. If the gator grabs a pet dog do we just say "OH Well" ? I didn't move to Florida to be ambushed by animals of prey.

Carl in Tampa
07-11-2014, 06:13 PM
I will most likely get flack for posting this.

The people get into the alligator's habitat and then it is the alligator that gets killed by the people. We all know that where there is water in Florida, there is very likely an alligator. Getting to the edge of a water hazard is an invite to the alligator to attack. The alligator at Turtle Mound will not be "relocated" to a marsh away from people to live out his estimated 35 years of life. He will be dragged out of the pond after being hooked by a large treble hook and will then be shot to death. The alligator killer will get to sell the alligator skin for a good price and the meat will be sold to tourist restaurants.

It is great that your friend escaped unharmed. I am sure he did get medical care for the puncture wound as an alligator does have all sorts of bacteria in his mouth and it can cause a serious infection.

Why should you get flack for posting your opinion? You will, however, get an opposing view.

The lakes, ponds, and pools within The Villages are not the alligator's habitat. The area once supported them, along with deer, bear, dove, quail and other animals that are seldom or never seen around here any more.

However, the incursion of humans, and the erection of infrastructure for human habitation has pushed these animals to other locations. There is still the occasional report of the sighting of some of these animals, but they are passing through. The Villages is no longer their habitat.

Alligators, being very primitive, and not nearly as smart as deer, have not figured out that this area now belongs to humans, so they keep pushing to take over the water areas, and will continue to do so as long as they find food here.

Some posters have spoken of effectively surrendering dominion over the lakes and ponds to the alligator. They advocate staying away from the water's edge because the water belongs to the alligator.

I disagree. I advocate aggressive and ongoing trapping and disposition of alligators found in the waterways of The Villages. Alligators are not an endangered species. It is foolhardy to tolerate having a dangerous wild animal living unfettered in close proximity to humans and their pets.

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buggyone
07-11-2014, 06:39 PM
After reading the replies to my original post I realize I used the wrong terminology in explaining what Gary was doing.

He was not RETRIEVING a ball from the water but ADDRESSING the ball on the grass 4'-5' from the water's edge. After what happened I won't even go that close to the water to hit my ball . . . ever!!

I do not know which hole at Turtle Mound your friend was on but if the ball was 4-5 feet from the edge of the water - it probably was out of bounds and he should not have gone after it, much less hit it from there.

His carelessness cost an alligator his life.

There is a good reason for the red stakes by the hazards.

ajbrown
07-11-2014, 06:56 PM
I do not know which hole at Turtle Mound your friend was on but if the ball was 4-5 feet from the edge of the water - it probably was out of bounds and he should not have gone after it, much less hit it from there.

His carelessness cost an alligator his life.

There is a good reason for the red stakes by the hazards.

I have no idea what you are talking about? You cannot think of any hole where there is a water hazard in Turtle Mound?

buggyone
07-11-2014, 07:16 PM
I have no idea what you are talking about? You cannot think of any hole where there is a water hazard in Turtle Mound?

No, I have never played at Turtle Mound. I live north of 466 and usually do not play south of Tarpon Boil.

DougB
07-11-2014, 09:06 PM
I do not know which hole at Turtle Mound your friend was on but if the ball was 4-5 feet from the edge of the water - it probably was out of bounds and he should not have gone after it, much less hit it from there.

His carelessness cost an alligator his life.

There is a good reason for the red stakes by the hazards.

Did I miss a post? Who said the gator was killed?

mtdjed
07-11-2014, 09:08 PM
How big was this gator? Is it gone? I would think that The Villages would have some record of the gators extraction from the environment. Have you ever seen a 3 foot, 4 foot, 5 foot gator. Mostly harmless and normally they withdraw from contact. Certainly not leaping from ponds toward people. Must have been much larger and should therefore be removed. Perhaps to be viewed or eaten at Gator Joes in Ocklawaha, Fl.

Carl in Tampa
07-11-2014, 09:53 PM
So glad to hear your friend is safe. It would have scared the hell out of me and I've seen a lot of very bad things. As for the gator and I know I'll probably get some grief, this is not a nature preserve, it's a residential community. Things that are dangerous to people or pets don't belong here in my opinion. If the gator grabs a pet dog do we just say "OH Well" ? I didn't move to Florida to be ambushed by animals of prey.

:agree::agree::agree:

You have correctly and succinctly made the point. This is a residential community, and having predator animals which are dangerous to humans or pets in the area is inappropriate.

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

gustavo
07-11-2014, 09:57 PM
I do not know which hole at Turtle Mound your friend was on but if the ball was 4-5 feet from the edge of the water - it probably was out of bounds and he should not have gone after it, much less hit it from there.

His carelessness cost an alligator his life.

There is a good reason for the red stakes by the hazards.

One option available by the rules of golf when the ball is in a hazard is to play it as it lies, so the golfer had every right to hit the ball from within the red stakes. Respect the game.

Miles42
07-11-2014, 10:34 PM
I would like a nice pair of alligator boots.

mulligan
07-12-2014, 04:22 AM
One option available by the rules of golf when the ball is in a hazard is to play it as it lies, so the golfer had every right to hit the ball from within the red stakes. Respect the game.

Unless the red stakes have a green top. That indicates a preserve area where you may not enter under any circumstances.

Taltarzac725
07-12-2014, 06:42 AM
Alligators in Florida Lakes – Alligator Attacks and Nuisance Gator Removal (http://www.floridalakefront.com/lakefront-faqs/alligators-in-florida-lakes/)

I certainly shudder at the idea of an alligator eating any loved one of mine here in the Villages but these gators are part of the natural habitat of Florida. I know much of the Villages used to be pastures and such with little water around but we have created an environment here in the Villages which is a lot more attractive to gators than it was before the developments of man made lakes with fish dumped in them.

TheVillageChicken
07-12-2014, 07:08 AM
Every human habitat in the world was once exclusive animal habitat. The distinction with The Villages is that it metamorphosed recently.

Since most if not all the bodies of water in The Villages are man-made, it is actually the gator who intruded. I assume that every gator in The Villages either migrated from another body of water nearby or one of their ancestors did so.

At any rate, to me, the health and safety of humans takes precedence of that of any animal, especially dangerous ones. I reserve the right to change my mind if the human in the equation is a real jackass.

I admit bias, as I am a hunter, and have been fortunate enough to win two permits in the Mississippi gator lottery in the last ten years.

rubicon
07-12-2014, 07:39 AM
The activity of the golfer at the time of the attack has been corrected to addressing the ball. The commentary thereafter included several references to the rules of the game.

there are a number of holes in proximity of a large pond on Turtle Mound. On the par 3 5th hole I hit a drive it landed to the right of the green behind the red stakes (meaning i could hit it but could not ground the club) and some 10 feet from the water. In my concern for being too close to the water, which may have contained an alligator I hit my ball hurriedly shanking to the edge of the water. You guessed it to the right of the ball was a alligator.

Alligators, like squirrels and snakes are territorial and this is their territory like it or not

People who live in Florida must adjust to that fact and understand that these creatures are ingenious at staying hidden.

Taltarzac725
07-12-2014, 07:48 AM
Every human habitat in the world was once exclusive animal habitat. The distinction with The Villages is that it metamorphosed recently.

Since most if not all the bodies of water in The Villages are man-made, it is actually the gator who intruded. I assume that every gator in The Villages either migrated from another body of water nearby or one of their ancestors did so.

At any rate, to me, the health and safety of humans takes precedence of that of any animal, especially dangerous ones. I reserve the right to change my mind if the human in the equation is a real jackass.

I admit bias, as I am a hunter, and have been fortunate enough to win two permits in the Mississippi gator lottery in the last ten years.

Most alligators are not dangerous except to ducks, loose pets, and other animals. They tend to leave people alone unless they become friendly with humans.

I remember walking in John Chestnut Park Pinellas County, Florida, Park & Conservation Resources - John Chesnut Sr. Park (http://www.pinellascounty.org/park/04_chesnut.htm) bordering Lake Tarpon in Palm Harbor. There are probably 10,000 alligators in Lake Tarpon. http://www.lakelubbers.com/lake-tarpon-1034/

I had my blind Cocker Spaniel Amber on a walk and we were approaching a bend in the shoreline of a pond in John Chestnut Park.

When we got close to the bend, I saw two men on top of a picnic table. I was very curious why they were up there.

So, I approached cautiously from way behind them because I had noticed the gator in the water in front of the picnic table. He was eyeing the men on top of the picnic table.

The men told me that the gator had come out of the water when they approached the picnic table because some of the many idiotic tourists fed it from the picnic table.

They probably had to kill that gator just because some jackass tourist gave it some meat while having a picnic.

The men were still on top of the picnic table when I drove out but it looked like a park employee had noticed and was heading towards them.


At least, this guy (11 ft. 700 lb. American Crocodile) had not found his way to Lake Tarpon yet. http://youtu.be/lcVPXqdtt_4

Carl in Tampa
07-12-2014, 02:17 PM
Every human habitat in the world was once exclusive animal habitat. The distinction with The Villages is that it metamorphosed recently.

Since most if not all the bodies of water in The Villages are man-made, it is actually the gator who intruded. I assume that every gator in The Villages either migrated from another body of water nearby or one of their ancestors did so.

At any rate, to me, the health and safety of humans takes precedence of that of any animal, especially dangerous ones. I reserve the right to change my mind if the human in the equation is a real jackass.

I admit bias, as I am a hunter, and have been fortunate enough to win two permits in the Mississippi gator lottery in the last ten years.

It isn't too late to apply for a Phase III Florida alligator hunting license for this year. Licenses are issued by random drawing.

Statewide Alligator Hunt Permit (http://myfwc.com/license/limited-entry-hunts/general-info/alligator-hunt-permit/)

Chi-Town
07-12-2014, 03:28 PM
I think that it should be mentioned that the golfer has excellent concentration skills in keeping his head down and eyes on the ball.

Taltarzac725
07-12-2014, 04:03 PM
I think that it should be mentioned that the golfer has excellent concentration skills in keeping his head down and eyes on the ball.

I should say so.

This story reminds me of the guy GatorGus who jumped into the Villages area lake to save his Westie Bounce. He was on TOTV for a few posts but have not seen him back.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/556936-post38.html

TexaninVA
07-12-2014, 05:39 PM
I will most likely get flack for posting this.

The people get into the alligator's habitat and then it is the alligator that gets killed by the people. We all know that where there is water in Florida, there is very likely an alligator. Getting to the edge of a water hazard is an invite to the alligator to attack. The alligator at Turtle Mound will not be "relocated" to a marsh away from people to live out his estimated 35 years of life. He will be dragged out of the pond after being hooked by a large treble hook and will then be shot to death. The alligator killer will get to sell the alligator skin for a good price and the meat will be sold to tourist restaurants.

It is great that your friend escaped unharmed. I am sure he did get medical care for the puncture wound as an alligator does have all sorts of bacteria in his mouth and it can cause a serious infection.

If people really can't deal with disrupting the natural habitat, they should recognize that's what any large scale development is going to do. In addition, if a gator lunges at a human we (so far) still place the human life above that of the alligator. That's where the "alligator killer" comes in to do this necessary job.

Perhaps one should relocate to an urban area if they can't deal with this reality or find it troublesome? Just saying ....

DaleDivine
07-12-2014, 07:18 PM
As of this afternoon, the gator had not been captured. We saw him yesterday swimming near the flower island and he looked quite huge. Maybe 6 or 7 ft.

buckeyegirl
07-12-2014, 08:13 PM
We actually kept on playing after the "alligator incident" and my husband got a par on the next hole! On a serious note...I have now lived here for 1 1/2 years and started playing golf shortly after we moved to The Villages. What we wanted to let people know by sharing this story was this: I play golf three days a week. I have watched people I play with from the beginning go near the water to hit the ball. I thought this was ok. I thought you would see the alligator and if you didn't it was ok. I was wrong. Very wrong. I will NEVER go near the water again. The attack was lighting fast. He was hidden under the water. He flew out of the water about 3 1/2 feet in the air and hit my husband at least 4 feet from the water. He grabbed his leg and knocked him on his back. He was completely out of the water. He stood on his legs and came a few steps forward with his mouth open. Then he stopped, lowered himself to the ground and slide backwards back into the water. Please, everyone, be safe and stay away from the water. My husband did not think he was in danger since he was at least 4' from the water. He did not think he was doing anything wrong. There were no green stakes with or without red tops by the water. I have hit my ball near where he hit his before. Please everyone, let that ball go. Do not go near the water. The debate of whether or not the alligators should be there is not relevant. They are there here and they are very good at what they do. Finding things to eat. Let's not be their dinner!

graciegirl
07-12-2014, 08:53 PM
We actually kept on playing after the "alligator incident" and my husband got a par on the next hole! On a serious note...I have now lived here for 1 1/2 years and started playing golf shortly after we moved to The Villages. What we wanted to let people know by sharing this story was this: I play golf three days a week. I have watched people I play with from the beginning go near the water to hit the ball. I thought this was ok. I thought you would see the alligator and if you didn't it was ok. I was wrong. Very wrong. I will NEVER go near the water again. The attack was lighting fast. He was hidden under the water. He flew out of the water about 3 1/2 feet in the air and hit my husband at least 4 feet from the water. He grabbed his leg and knocked him on his back. He was completely out of the water. He stood on his legs and came a few steps forward with his mouth open. Then he stopped, lowered himself to the ground and slide backwards back into the water. Please, everyone, be safe and stay away from the water. My husband did not think he was in danger since he was at least 4' from the water. He did not think he was doing anything wrong. There were no green stakes with or without red tops by the water. I have hit my ball near where he hit his before. Please everyone, let that ball go. Do not go near the water. The debate of whether or not the alligators should be there is not relevant. They are there here and they are very good at what they do. Finding things to eat. Let's not be their dinner!


I thank you so much for your very sincere warning. I will be very careful from now on.

Barefoot
07-12-2014, 09:20 PM
We actually kept on playing after the "alligator incident" and my husband got a par on the next hole! On a serious note...I have now lived here for 1 1/2 years and started playing golf shortly after we moved to The Villages. What we wanted to let people know by sharing this story was this: I play golf three days a week. I have watched people I play with from the beginning go near the water to hit the ball. I thought this was ok. I thought you would see the alligator and if you didn't it was ok. I was wrong. Very wrong. I will NEVER go near the water again. The attack was lighting fast. He was hidden under the water. He flew out of the water about 3 1/2 feet in the air and hit my husband at least 4 feet from the water. He grabbed his leg and knocked him on his back. He was completely out of the water. He stood on his legs and came a few steps forward with his mouth open. Then he stopped, lowered himself to the ground and slide backwards back into the water. Please, everyone, be safe and stay away from the water. My husband did not think he was in danger since he was at least 4' from the water. He did not think he was doing anything wrong. There were no green stakes with or without red tops by the water. I have hit my ball near where he hit his before. Please everyone, let that ball go. Do not go near the water. The debate of whether or not the alligators should be there is not relevant. They are there here and they are very good at what they do. Finding things to eat. Let's not be their dinner!

Thank you for the good reminder. I always personally stay well away from water, always. I've seen a gator come out of a pond and it can happen in a split second.

However we back on a couple of small ponds. And all day long golfers go to the water's edge trying to retrieve lost balls. It's amazing. The ponds are small, but we've seen a gator in one of them.

Jdmiata
07-12-2014, 09:23 PM
I must say that I was extra careful playing golf near the water today.

jimmy D
07-12-2014, 09:50 PM
Your friend Gary. I hope he is ok, but why risk this for a couple of bucks or did he not care or realize it is dangerous around water in Fl?????

kaydee
07-12-2014, 10:06 PM
I gotta believe that most all of us golfers have at some point gone within several feet of waters edge to hit a retrieve a ball. Trying to save a couple bucks is not the issue..speaking for myself, I'm playing golf and if my ball is found or playable in what I thought would be a safe distance from waters edge then that's where I would have been. Not anymore. As posted, the gator was not visible and it leaped out of the water. Again, speaking for myself, I wouldn't have thought that a gator would have been that aggressive to have been hiding so to speak and then spring out to attack.
I thank the OP for this wake up call.

gustavo
07-12-2014, 10:31 PM
Unless the red stakes have a green top. That indicates a preserve area where you may not enter under any circumstances.

Green tops were not mentioned in the OP.

gustavo
07-12-2014, 10:42 PM
I gotta believe that most all of us golfers have at some point gone within several feet of waters edge to hit a retrieve a ball. Trying to save a couple bucks is not the issue..speaking for myself, I'm playing golf and if my ball is found or playable in what I thought would be a safe distance from waters edge then that's where I would have been. Not anymore. As posted, the gator was not visible and it leaped out of the water. Again, speaking for myself, I wouldn't have thought that a gator would have been that aggressive to have been hiding so to speak and then spring out to attack.
I thank the OP for this wake up call.

Let's put some perspective on this. How many tee times are there each year in the Villages? A couple million. At least one person in each group has probably ventured near the water's edge in search of a lost ball. How many gator attacks have been reported? One, this one and the guy kept playing after the attack and actually parred the next hole. So I think it is safe to assume you will be hit by a car before you're the next gator attack story.

kittygilchrist
07-13-2014, 06:09 AM
The villages is a set up for an alligator attack. There is too much water, too many alligators, and too many unsuspecting people for it to be otherwise. anyone who sees an alligator over 4 feet in a location where people are coming and going, may report it as a nuisance alligator. In my opinion this should be a common practice to keep golf course and backyard water as free of them as possible.

866-392-gator is the nuisance alligator hotline. The fish and wildlife commission will contact the CDD for permission to enter the property.

Cisco Kid
07-13-2014, 06:30 AM
We actually kept on playing after the "alligator incident" and my husband got a par on the next hole! On a serious note...I have now lived here for 1 1/2 years and started playing golf shortly after we moved to The Villages. What we wanted to let people know by sharing this story was this: I play golf three days a week. I have watched people I play with from the beginning go near the water to hit the ball. I thought this was ok. I thought you would see the alligator and if you didn't it was ok. I was wrong. Very wrong. I will NEVER go near the water again. The attack was lighting fast. He was hidden under the water. He flew out of the water about 3 1/2 feet in the air and hit my husband at least 4 feet from the water. He grabbed his leg and knocked him on his back. He was completely out of the water. He stood on his legs and came a few steps forward with his mouth open. Then he stopped, lowered himself to the ground and slide backwards back into the water. Please, everyone, be safe and stay away from the water. My husband did not think he was in danger since he was at least 4' from the water. He did not think he was doing anything wrong. There were no green stakes with or without red tops by the water. I have hit my ball near where he hit his before. Please everyone, let that ball go. Do not go near the water. The debate of whether or not the alligators should be there is not relevant. They are there here and they are very good at what they do. Finding things to eat. Let's not be their dinner!



Did someone pee on the wound to sanitize it ?

:jester:

MoeVonB61
07-13-2014, 07:27 AM
IT'S ALLIGATOR MATING SEASON!!! THEY LAY THEIR EGGS AT THE WATER'S EDGE!!.. first....it's a sin we don't respect their territory and STAY AWAY from the water's edge JULY AND AUGUST.....Common sense to me....Happy that person is unarmed but the alligator was merely WARNING him!!

ajbrown
07-13-2014, 07:38 AM
I gotta believe that most all of us golfers have at some point gone within several feet of waters edge to hit a retrieve a ball. Trying to save a couple bucks is not the issue..speaking for myself, I'm playing golf and if my ball is found or playable in what I thought would be a safe distance from waters edge then that's where I would have been. Not anymore. As posted, the gator was not visible and it leaped out of the water. Again, speaking for myself, I wouldn't have thought that a gator would have been that aggressive to have been hiding so to speak and then spring out to attack.
I thank the OP for this wake up call.

I agree with all of the quoted post. I have played the same way forever , now will heed the warning. I can remember one time hitting a ball out of the water and onto a green in TV. The ball was in the water, one or 2 dimples breaking the surface of the water. I had to take a shoe off and step into the water. I am glad the 'restaurant' was closed that day :pray:

Might be time to get a caddy? Someone to send into the the waters edge before you proceed so you can safely try to save par? :D

asianthree
07-13-2014, 08:35 AM
I have never understood why a golf ball or a penalty stroke is worth taking a chance for such an encounter

ajbrown
07-13-2014, 09:06 AM
I have never understood why a golf ball or a penalty stroke is worth taking a chance for such an encounter

I.G.N.O.R.A.N.C.E

I was ignorant to the fact a gator would be submerged in the water waiting for an old hacker to come by for a bite....

kittygilchrist
07-13-2014, 09:13 AM
I.G.N.O.R.A.N.C.E

I was ignorant to the fact a gator would be submerged in the water waiting for an old hacker to come by for a bite....

And most people don't know they can rise on their hind legs and launch themselves at you. Nice post, AJ, a lot of us don't know what we're ignorant about until it bites us on the... You know.

firewalkerb3
07-14-2014, 04:37 PM
Read a lot of different opinions on how to handle/deal with this issue. I think some good common horse scenes (as my grandfather would say) will go a long way addressing the need to have safe places to enjoy without threat of being eaten of disfigured. I don’t like the dramatic twists and approach some put on things in an attempt to create a ghoulish picture of gators demise after capture, while averting the demise of what the gator captures. I’m sure the gator is a lot less humane about how he dispatches his desires. I respect everyone opinion and beliefs, we all have to decide what we a willing to live with.

kittygilchrist
07-14-2014, 04:46 PM
Read a lot of different opinions on how to handle/deal with this issue. I think some good common horse scenes (as my grandfather would say) will go a long way addressing the need to have safe places to enjoy without threat of being eaten of disfigured. I don’t like the dramatic twists and approach some put on things in an attempt to create a ghoulish picture of gators demise after capture, while averting the demise of what the gator captures. I’m sure the gator is a lot less humane about how he dispatches his desires. I respect everyone opinion and beliefs, we all have to decide what we a willing to live with.

:agree:
I'd rather see people live and gators populations sensibly managed. We do have a choice about this, and if we choose to leave large gators in our ponds, someone will get seriously hurt..

TheVillageChicken
07-14-2014, 05:18 PM
Many years ago I was undergoing some training at Keesler AFB, MS. Almost every weekend I went down to Ft Walton Beach, FL to play golf with some friends at the base golf course on Hurlburt Field. Many of the holes had nice metal signs adjacent to the water hazards. To the best of my memory, they read like this............

Attention
This body of water is home to the American Alligator (Alligator mississippiensis), a threatened species in many parts of Florida. Do not feed or harass this animal, as they are capable of seriously injuring or killing humans. Yada yada yada.

OK, I took notice and if I had to go near the water I was super cautious.

One weekend, I stayed in Mississippi to play golf at a little track just North of Biloxi. I had never played the course before and had a blind tee shot on the 11th. Not realizing that there was a lake just over the hill beyond the tee box, I went by the posted yardage and over-clubbed. When I topped the hill, I saw the lake which was low with about twenty feet of muddy ground surrounding it. I thought, "OK, my ball is in that mud and I will find it and since it isn't marked as a hazard, I can call it casual water." When I got closer I saw a sign crudely written on a raggedy piece of wood.

All it said was

Gator

For some reason that sign had about three times the horsepower of the neat metal signs down in Florida, and I declared my ball lost.

dirtbanker
07-14-2014, 08:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lncwRnV4Gsg&feature=kp