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TVMayor
07-12-2014, 08:12 AM
I have a question. When the developer original sold homes the homes they were sold to 55+ years of age people, the homes being replaced are being replaced by a second or later owner not the developer (he is no longer defined as a developer). The question is can he sell the homes to anyone as can any first or second owner? I think he can and will.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
07-12-2014, 08:29 AM
If I understand you're question correctly, I think that the owner would still have to sell to someone over 55 or get a variance.

I think that the term developer refers not only to the person that built the houses, but also put in the infrastructure.

These properties are still in The Villages so I would think that all of the rules still apply. It would seem to me that the rules apply to the land itself, not just the house that sits on it.

The new owners would still be responsible for paying the amenities fees and have to abide by all of the deed restrictions that we have in this community.

I could be wrong, but that's my take on it.

graciegirl
07-12-2014, 09:41 AM
Age is part of the deed restriction, With the 80-20 thing going on of course.


Every time I see reference to new homes on the historic side, it makes me happy. I think this is gonna work out nice.

I love The Villages, yes, I do.

manaboutown
07-12-2014, 10:56 AM
I am wondering if "the developer" will be able to and place updated deed restrictions on the properties it acquires and sells. If not, I presume a buyer of the new dwelling could get out the old pink flamingos and put them in his front yard.

Jayhawk
07-12-2014, 11:21 AM
Age is part of the deed restriction, With the 80-20 thing going on of course.


Every time I see reference to new homes on the historic side, it makes me happy. I think this is gonna work out nice.

I love The Villages, yes, I do.

Us, too.

:pepper2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2::pepper2:

Bizdoc
07-12-2014, 12:51 PM
I am wondering if "the developer" will be able to and place updated deed restrictions on the properties it acquires and sells. If not, I presume a buyer of the new dwelling could get out the old pink flamingos and put them in his front yard.

Don't think so. In the other states where I've had restrictive covenants, it was an all or nothing arrangement with a majority of property holders having to approve changes.

LeeM
07-12-2014, 03:14 PM
Where is the historic side in the Villages?

Would that be nearer Brownwood, Spanish Springs, Lake Sumter or....?

CFrance
07-12-2014, 03:20 PM
It's on the north side of 441.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
07-12-2014, 03:20 PM
As I understand it, by law, in order to advertise a development as an "Over 55" or retirement community, at lease 80% of the homes must be occupied by at least one person over the age of 55.

I think that the only way for the developer to get around that would be to disenfranchise the historic district from The Villages.

The Historic District sits north east of Highway 27/441, not from from Spanish Springs.

NoMoSno
07-12-2014, 03:41 PM
It's on the north side of 441.

Actually, its on the east side of 441 :thumbup:

Double Bogie
07-12-2014, 03:48 PM
Where is the historic side in the Villages?

Would that be nearer Brownwood, Spanish Springs, Lake Sumter or....?

The historic area is across 27/441 from Spanish Springs.

njbchbum
07-12-2014, 03:56 PM
The historic villages include, Silver Lake, Orange Blossom Gardens, Country Club Hills on the east side of 27/441 as well as those neighborhoods across the highway that run off Avenida Central - some of which are Mira Mesa, La Reynalda, Valle Verde, La Zamora

Chi-Town
07-12-2014, 04:09 PM
Have friends who live in La Reynalda in a Premiere home. It looks far from historic.

Bonanza
07-12-2014, 04:27 PM
I am wondering if "the developer" will be able to and place updated deed restrictions on the properties it acquires and sells. If not, I presume a buyer of the new dwelling could get out the old pink flamingos and put them in his front yard.

When "the developer" buys a previously owned property, he is just another buyer like you or me.
He is no longer "the developer."
The only exception to this rule would be if he buys back a home
that was owned for less than a year, I believe.

He, as a new buyer, still has to abide by the existing rules, regulations, etc.

Bonanza
07-12-2014, 04:29 PM
Actually, its on the east side of 441 :thumbup:

Correct.
44 runs north and south.

Wanna go to Ft. Lauderdale?
It's a loooong drive!

bike42
07-12-2014, 06:32 PM
Actually, its on the east side of 441 :thumbup:

Actually, it is on the Northeast side. 441 runs diagonally from northwest to southeast.

njbchbum
07-12-2014, 06:42 PM
Have friends who live in La Reynalda in a Premiere home. It looks far from historic.

Lady Lake, Lake County, zip code 32159? My friends in Mira Mesa told me that was also historic area.

CFrance
07-12-2014, 06:53 PM
Actually, it is on the Northeast side. 441 runs diagonally from northwest to southeast.
You're right of course. I always forget that. In my mind, I go north on Morse to get to 441. So it seems like you go farther north to get to the historic side.

dalecrenshaw
07-12-2014, 07:03 PM
Have friends who live in La Reynalda in a Premiere home. It looks far from historic.

If you drive around your friend's area, you will see that there are some manufactured homes sprinkled around the area.

jimmy D
07-12-2014, 09:56 PM
If these homes are For Sale, Any of you will be a able to buy them. For all of the people who believe the Developer is taking advantage and you don't like it, Here is your chance to compete and do your own thing. Most will bemoan the fact the developer is doing this and now the game is foreverone. Who will put up or ???

Chi-Town
07-12-2014, 10:07 PM
If you drive around your friend's area, you will see that there are some manufactured homes sprinkled around the area.
You know that may be. Have only been there from golf or at night. La Reynalda seems to be a very small village.

graciegirl
07-12-2014, 10:13 PM
If these homes are For Sale, Any of you will be a able to buy them. For all of the people who believe the Developer is taking advantage and you don't like it, Here is your chance to compete and do your own thing. Most will bemoan the fact the developer is doing this and now the game is foreverone. Who will put up or ???


???

Bonanza
07-12-2014, 11:12 PM
Actually, it is on the Northeast side. 441 runs diagonally from northwest to southeast.

Let's not get so technical.
While there are many curves in both directions,
Highway 441 is a north-south road. Period!

Barefoot
07-13-2014, 01:23 AM
It's on the north side of 441.

Actually, its on the east side of 441

Since 441 curves, you are both right!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
07-13-2014, 08:00 AM
Let's not get so technical.
While there are many curves in both directions,
Highway 441 is a north-south road. Period!

Yes, it is a north south road and it does curve in many directions. In The Villages area it runs from the south east to the north west so it seems appropriate to say that the historic district lies northeast of that road.

There is a section of 441 in Leesburg that runs from northeast to south west. Would you describe something lying on to the northwest of that road as being east of it?

In the Boston area we have two major highways that are circular. You sometimes have to get onto 128 north in order to go south. In fact a section of 128 South is also designated as US 95 north. Believe me, if I am on 128 north (a north south road) in Quincy, Boston is to the north of me. The Washington Beltway is another example.

In this discussion, the road is a reference point. The ultimate direction that the road will take you is irrelevant.

asianthree
07-13-2014, 09:01 AM
I don't have a compass in my golf cart so anyone could be right

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
07-13-2014, 09:05 AM
I don't have a compass in my golf cart so anyone could be right

The Historic District lies to the northeast of 441.

If you're in your golf cart, when you cross over the golf cart bridge you have entered The Historic District. The bridge was built to connect The Historic District to the rest of The Villages.

Alaskarose
07-14-2014, 10:19 PM
I wish those "lenders" who end up foreclosing on all those reverse mortgages were required to abide by the covenants that we are held to. It seems that they can foreclose on the property and then just sit on it for years and years while the building and the yard become an eyesore.

Bonanza
07-14-2014, 11:44 PM
I wish those "lenders" who end up foreclosing on all those reverse mortgages were required to abide by the covenants that we are held to. It seems that they can foreclose on the property and then just sit on it for years and years while the building and the yard become an eyesore.

Most cities/counties now have laws that require lenders to maintain properties so that they do not become an "eyesore."

It's not just the reverse mortgages that have been the problem. They only play a small part in the foreclosure scene. And while foreclosure and short sale properties can take a fair amount of time to get on the market and finally sell, they don't take "years and years."

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
07-15-2014, 06:35 AM
I wish those "lenders" who end up foreclosing on all those reverse mortgages were required to abide by the covenants that we are held to. It seems that they can foreclose on the property and then just sit on it for years and years while the building and the yard become an eyesore.

I think that it's more the process that takes time. What reason would a lender have for just sitting on a piece of property? I'm sure that they want to sell it and get as much of what they lost out of it as soon as possible.

If I'm not mistaken, they have to go through the court system before they can take possession. Until that process is completed, ownership of the property is in limbo.

If you see a property that is not being maintained, you can call The Villages. They will have someone come out and cut the grass and trim the shrubs and put a lien on the property for the cost.

Bogie Shooter
07-15-2014, 07:17 AM
I am wondering if "the developer" will be able to and place updated deed restrictions on the properties it acquires and sells. If not, I presume a buyer of the new dwelling could get out the old pink flamingos and put them in his front yard.

No restriction on Pink Flamingos in that area.

Bogie Shooter
07-15-2014, 07:20 AM
Correct.
44 runs north and south.

Wanna go to Ft. Lauderdale?
It's a loooong drive!

CR44 runs east and west, Wildwood to Leesburg.

mulligan
07-15-2014, 08:20 AM
It's pretty simple. Even numbers run east-west. Odd numbers run north -south. Works nationwide.

Steve & Deanna
07-15-2014, 09:24 AM
Where is the historic side in the Villages?

Would that be nearer Brownwood, Spanish Springs, Lake Sumter or....?
Take the golf cart bridge (note golf cart) from behind Ruby Tuesday's in Spanish Springs over to the Historical Section. Always fun to cruise around over there when you're out and about.