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Happinow
07-25-2014, 08:01 AM
I was thinking of an actual red light at that crossing. I think they have wasted their time and money with this quick fix to that traffic problem. It runs smoothly with Community Watch directing traffic. When the snow birds come back, I see no difference on the control/flow of traffic than before. This flashing light isn't going to slow down or stop traffic so that carts can proceed safely. What were they thinking? I think after a short while, someone will recognize the fact that this is not the solution to a serious problem at this crossing. Does anyone have a different outlook on this situation?

under55
07-25-2014, 08:05 AM
Your looking at the old yellow light that has always been there. The new lights will be in a flashing mode for a week then start as a regular stop light operation. That is my understanding.

Sable99
07-25-2014, 08:06 AM
I'm not in TV right now, but why couldn't they have done 4-way stop signs? It seems like that would have been more cost effective.

LittleDog
07-25-2014, 08:36 AM
I'm not in TV right now, but why couldn't they have done 4-way stop signs? It seems like that would have been more cost effective.

I agree. It would have been a lot cheaper and if it didn't solve the problem then install the lights.

John

MikeV
07-25-2014, 08:38 AM
I'm not in TV right now, but why couldn't they have done 4-way stop signs? It seems like that would have been more cost effective.

With the number of cart drivers receiving tickets for not running Stop Signs I think this will be better. Note: I use that intersection daily and have never had a problem with crossing.

Bizdoc
07-25-2014, 08:38 AM
I'm not in TV right now, but why couldn't they have done 4-way stop signs? It seems like that would have been more cost effective.

Probably because a large number of Villagers view stop signs as suggestions. I fully expect to see them view the traffic signals as suggestions as well.

billethkid
07-25-2014, 09:34 AM
I'm not in TV right now, but why couldn't they have done 4-way stop signs? It seems like that would have been more cost effective.
4 way stop signs are like speed limits in TV....they mean absolutely nothing to far too many always in a hurry to go no place inconsiderates...

FL friendliest home town (unless they are behind the wheel :eclipsee_gold_cup:)

memason
07-25-2014, 10:06 AM
I hope I'm wrong, but I think this will now be a very dangerous intersection for a while. There will be both cars and carts running that light for a while.

Folks will just be on autopilot and not see the new light or will just run it anyway. The speed limit is 20mph on that street, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone adhering to that.

Hope I'm being a pessimist!

Roaddog53
07-25-2014, 05:34 PM
I had a solution to the issue that was well received (email with positive reply and feedback) but they had already decided on the lights. It was similar to 466 process. However , maybe they should consider using speed bumps similar to the kind on Rolling Acres coming up to the intersection. Since golf carts can't travel from the west, the bump(s) could go across the lane heading east reminding them of the light. The westbound lane could have a half/lane set of bump(s) for cars reminding them of the light. Golf carts would turn right or left at the light. Maybe smaller sets could be used for carts on the cart path?

CFrance
07-25-2014, 06:01 PM
I hope I'm wrong, but I think this will now be a very dangerous intersection for a while. There will be both cars and carts running that light for a while.

Folks will just be on autopilot and not see the new light or will just run it anyway. The speed limit is 20mph on that street, but you'd be hard pressed to find anyone adhering to that.

Hope I'm being a pessimist!
That is why the lights will just be flashing for a while. Till people start remembering it is there. I once decanted the contents of the backseat of my car into the front when they put a new stop sign on my route to the tennis club in Grand Rapids, MI. You are right... I was on auto pilot.

pbeinetti
08-01-2014, 05:12 PM
I think the lights are difficult to see, off on the side. Usually lights are out over the road. I'm afraid some people driving cars won't see they have a red light and plow right through the intersection. People in carts who have a green light will ASSUME they can proceed into the intersection, without looking. I'm concerned there can be some very bad accidents.

Down Sized
08-09-2014, 04:09 PM
What about right turn on red when going to Colony Plaza??

RErmer
08-09-2014, 04:45 PM
Went through today, and the light is fully functional (perhaps OP didn't hear it would be in flashing mode for a few days while people acclimated to it). We waited in our cart to cross, got the green and went through. Not as good as a bridge or tunnel, however, it should work - people seem to pay more attention to stop lights than they do to signs.

CFrance
08-09-2014, 04:51 PM
Went through today, and the light is fully functional (perhaps OP didn't hear it would be in flashing mode for a few days while people acclimated to it). We waited in our cart to cross, got the green and went through. Not as good as a bridge or tunnel, however, it should work - people seem to pay more attention to stop lights than they do to signs.
I wondered if a bridge or tunnel wouldn't just kick the problem further down Colony Blvd, unless you mean it would go to an additional cart path that would tie into Publix parking lot somehow. But carts would still need a way to get into Colony rec center.

MikeV
08-09-2014, 05:10 PM
It seems to be working fine. I had to stop for the red light to let a couple of carts cross and it was just a few seconds that the light turned green for me. I wonder if they have some sort of traffic detector there.

JC and John
08-09-2014, 06:39 PM
My hubby came through the intersection today. He saw a guy in a car coming from Colony ignore his red light and plow on through. Good thing no cart was crossing on green!

Happinow
08-09-2014, 08:31 PM
I did go to Colony Plaza today and was able to see the light in working order. It seems to make a difference, although I went at a not so busy time. Once we get everyone use to it I think it will do the trick. Time will tell.

zcaveman
08-09-2014, 08:43 PM
What about right turn on red when going to Colony Plaza??

I have not been through the intersection but a right turn on red is like a stop sign. You wait until everything is clear and then make the right.

What is the problem?

Z

scrapple
08-10-2014, 10:03 AM
I used it yesterday and it worked fine. Was initially red for me crossing on the golf cart path, changed to green after a short wait, like any normal light. I think it's great!

Down Sized
08-10-2014, 01:00 PM
I have not been through the intersection but a right turn on red is like a stop sign. You wait until everything is clear and then make the right.

What is the problem?

Z

The PROBLEM is: Is it allowed at this intersection. DA!
Some intersection it is not allowed.:22yikes:

CFrance
08-10-2014, 01:17 PM
The PROBLEM is: Is it allowed at this intersection. DA!
Some intersection it is not allowed.:22yikes:
When right turn on red is not allowed, there is a sign posted to that effect.

Wiserbud47
08-10-2014, 05:19 PM
The real test for the new lights is to see how difficult it is to travel on the cart path coming southbound from Morse Blvd. and making a left onto Colony Blvd. to go to the Colony Plaza. The light stops the vehicle traffic on Colony Blvd. but what about the golf carts traveling northbound straight across Colony Blvd? They have the right-of-way and will definitely reduce the number of carts that can make the left turn. Last winter I observed 10-15 carts backed up on the path. The light will help a little but the only way to improve this would be to have the light for the northbound carts stay red to awhile while the light for the southbound carts is green.

e-flyer
08-10-2014, 10:31 PM
I thought the same thing. Could be a problem for southbound carts turning left during the busy season. At least there is a left turn signal indicator for westbound traffic so carts have a chance to turn left at Colony.

zcaveman
08-11-2014, 11:30 AM
The PROBLEM is: Is it allowed at this intersection. DA!
Some intersection it is not allowed.:22yikes:

But it is still like stop sign. You have to come to a complete stop and look to make sure nothing is coming before you make the right on red. What is the problem?

Z

Bogie Shooter
08-11-2014, 12:24 PM
The real test for the new lights is to see how difficult it is to travel on the cart path coming southbound from Morse Blvd. and making a left onto Colony Blvd. to go to the Colony Plaza. The light stops the vehicle traffic on Colony Blvd. but what about the golf carts traveling northbound straight across Colony Blvd? They have the right-of-way and will definitely reduce the number of carts that can make the left turn. Last winter I observed 10-15 carts backed up on the path. The light will help a little but the only way to improve this would be to have the light for the northbound carts stay red to awhile while the light for the southbound carts is green.

Maybe we could have Community Watch come back to direct traffic..............

Mikeod
08-11-2014, 12:48 PM
The real test for the new lights is to see how difficult it is to travel on the cart path coming southbound from Morse Blvd. and making a left onto Colony Blvd. to go to the Colony Plaza. The light stops the vehicle traffic on Colony Blvd. but what about the golf carts traveling northbound straight across Colony Blvd? They have the right-of-way and will definitely reduce the number of carts that can make the left turn. Last winter I observed 10-15 carts backed up on the path. The light will help a little but the only way to improve this would be to have the light for the northbound carts stay red to awhile while the light for the southbound carts is green.
I suspect that if it becomes a problem, it will be easy to program the lights to delay the green for northbound carts so that those southbound carts can turn toward the plaza.

LI SNOWBIRD
08-12-2014, 09:02 AM
But it is still like stop sign. You have to come to a complete stop and look to make sure nothing is coming before you make the right on red. What is the problem?

Z

Finally some clarity

Walter123
08-12-2014, 09:20 AM
Maybe they should have put in a light, stop sign and tunnel. That would make everyone happy. NOT!

CFrance
08-12-2014, 09:26 AM
Maybe they should have put in a light, stop sign and tunnel. That would make everyone happy. NOT!
No, because you'd still have those people who were lobbying to ban all car traffic on Colony!:rant-rave:

Indydealmaker
08-12-2014, 10:39 AM
No, because you'd still have those people who were lobbying to ban all car traffic on Colony!:rant-rave:

PETA has suggested banning people.

CFrance
08-12-2014, 11:12 AM
PETA has suggested banning people.
I can think of many replies to that!:wave: