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kittygilchrist
07-28-2014, 09:58 PM
Let's try this again using Albright's statement on CBS instead of my calling it "gone to hell in a handbasket"...

What do you think of current world affairs, and if you can say it without political sides taken, what can we personally do or espouse as a nation?

For new posters, you may not promote your party or bash the other party. If you do, the thread will be closed.

Tennisnut
07-28-2014, 10:49 PM
Let's try this again using Albright's statement on CBS instead of my calling it "gone to hell in a handbasket"...

What do you think of current world affairs, and if you can say it without political sides taken, what can we personally do or espouse as a nation?

For new posters, you may not promote your party or bash the other party. If you do, the thread will be closed.

This will be fun to follow. The negativity should be overwhelming otherwise there will probably not be much to be said.

kittygilchrist
07-28-2014, 10:54 PM
This will be fun to follow. The negativity should be overwhelming otherwise there will probably not be much to be said.

Was that supposed to be positive?:loco:
Fun=negative?

Tennisnut
07-28-2014, 11:16 PM
Was that supposed to be positive?:loco:
Fun=negative?

I tried a positive post awhile back called "I am so thankful" as opposed to "The world is a mess". Mine went downhill fast with a lot of negativity. Your post will probably be embraced with that negativity with "The world going to hell in a hand basket".

kittygilchrist
07-28-2014, 11:36 PM
What is your point regarding the topic?

gamby
07-29-2014, 12:01 AM
Several days before Jesus was impaled, the disciples came to him and asked him about the future. They were interested in knowing about the establishment of God’s Kingdom, of which Jesus had so often spoken. They also wanted to know about “the conclusion of the system of things,” or as some translations render that expression, “the end of the world.”—Matthew 24:3, American Standard Version; King James Version.
, Jesus foretold that there would be large-scale wars, famines, pestilences, and great earthquakes. He also said that lawlessness would increase, false religious teachers would mislead many, and true Christians would be hated and persecuted. —Matthew 24:4-13; Luke 21:11.
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2 Timothy 3: 1-5

But know this, that in the last days+ critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power;+ and from these turn away.

DougB
07-29-2014, 12:21 AM
Several days before Jesus was impaled, the disciples came to him and asked him about the future. They were interested in knowing about the establishment of God’s Kingdom, of which Jesus had so often spoken. They also wanted to know about “the conclusion of the system of things,” or as some translations render that expression, “the end of the world.”—Matthew 24:3, American Standard Version; King James Version.
, Jesus foretold that there would be large-scale wars, famines, pestilences, and great earthquakes. He also said that lawlessness would increase, false religious teachers would mislead many, and true Christians would be hated and persecuted. —Matthew 24:4-13; Luke 21:11.
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2 Timothy 3: 1-5

But know this, that in the last days+ critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful,
haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power;+ and from these turn
away.

How does this relate to 2014?

l2ridehd
07-29-2014, 04:50 AM
I think General Amos, Joint Chief of Staff and Marine Corp Commandant did a great job of answering that question in a recent interview. He gave a concise view of the world status and how the US plays in that space. Very unusual for a Chief Staff General to be so outspoken, but I applaud his candor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF-zPgkCJEc&feature=youtu.be

gomoho
07-29-2014, 06:11 AM
How does this relate to 2014?

You're kidding right?

OBXNana
07-29-2014, 06:11 AM
I can remember my mother telling me stories of people knocking on their door during the depression, for food and a warm place to sleep. My grandmother would make them a sandwich (whatever), allow them to sleep in the barn, and tell them to pick some vegetables or fruit to take with them. In exchange, they would milk the cows or split fire wood. That day is long gone.

I cringe when I hear the problem is too big for any individual. It has to start with the individual and not depend on the government. Just a few simple things that come to mind:
When tissues are on sale, donate them to a head start program
When there's a bogo on laundry detergent, donate one to a animal rescue
When you find you don't like the case of black beans you purchased at Costco, donate
to a food bank.

Right now we're down sizing. The baby stuff we had for our grandchildren when they slept over will be going to a young couple starting out. We've asked when they are done with the items to donate to a shelter for abused woman with children. What you may see as junk, would make a tremendous difference to someone else.

The mess of the world begins with us.

tucson
07-29-2014, 06:37 AM
Several days before Jesus was impaled, the disciples came to him and asked him about the future. They were interested in knowing about the establishment of God’s Kingdom, of which Jesus had so often spoken. They also wanted to know about “the conclusion of the system of things,” or as some translations render that expression, “the end of the world.”—Matthew 24:3, American Standard Version; King James Version.
, Jesus foretold that there would be large-scale wars, famines, pestilences, and great earthquakes. He also said that lawlessness would increase, false religious teachers would mislead many, and true Christians would be hated and persecuted. —Matthew 24:4-13; Luke 21:11.
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2 Timothy 3: 1-5

But know this, that in the last days+ critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power;+ and from these turn away.

Gamby, You took the "verses out of my mouth", that IS the answer! God is the same today (2014) as He was in the day he spoke these words to His disciples.

Cedwards38
07-29-2014, 06:47 AM
I don't think the world is in any worse shape that it has been in the past.

If we look back on the succession of our conflicts including World War II, World War I, the American Civil War, and so on and so on, all the way back to the Dark Ages, we see that homo sapiens breed conflict. Human beings, I'm sorry to say, for all of our boasting about how superior we are to the rest of life forms, seem to be judgmental and violent by nature. The only difference today is that most of the conflict and killing in today's world is done in the name of a religion. Now before you get riled up, I'm a Christian, but I'm just telling you what I observe.

What can we do? Try to overcome our nature and thus stop being so judgmental, and stop reacting to perceived affronts with violence. Teach our children to see the world in a different way.

Good luck with that.

Taltarzac725
07-29-2014, 06:54 AM
I don't think the world is in any worse shape that it has been in the past.

If we look back on the succession of our conflicts including World War II, World War I, the American Civil War, and so on and so on, all the way back to the Dark Ages, we see that homo sapiens breed conflict. Human beings, I'm sorry to say, for all of our boasting about how superior we are to the rest of life forms, seem to be judgmental and violent by nature. The only difference today is that most of the conflict and killing in today's world is done in the name of a religion. Now before you get riled up, I'm a Christian, but I'm just telling you what I observe.

What can we do? Try to overcome our nature and thus stop being so judgmental, and stop reacting to perceived affronts with violence. Teach our children to see the world in a different way.

Good luck with that.

Wars are often fought by people who think they have the grand plan for a perfect society on earth but with the "crooked timber of humanity" you cannot really build it. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Immanuel_Kant

Except for the possibility of war with Russia because of Putin's over-reaching, I really do not see the world in a worse shape than a few years ago. There have certainly been much more frightening periods of US history than 2014. 1864, 1914, 1934, 1964 for instance.

sunnyatlast
07-29-2014, 07:13 AM
I don't think the world is in any worse shape that it has been in the past.

If we look back on the succession of our conflicts including World War II, World War I, the American Civil War, and so on and so on, all the way back to the Dark Ages, we see that homo sapiens breed conflict. Human beings, I'm sorry to say, for all of our boasting about how superior we are to the rest of life forms, seem to be judgmental and violent by nature. The only difference today is that most of the conflict and killing in today's world is done in the name of a religion. Now before you get riled up, I'm a Christian, but I'm just telling you what I observe.

What can we do? Try to overcome our nature and thus stop being so judgmental, and stop reacting to perceived affronts with violence. Teach our children to see the world in a different way.

Good luck with that.

So I guess it was a "perceived affront" when 3,000 innocent civilians were murdered (in the name of a hijacked world religion) in NYC, our nation's capital, and the scorched hole in a PA field on 9/11/01, and we should have done nothing in response. (?!?!?!?!?)

tucson
07-29-2014, 07:22 AM
Everyone needs to read what the Lord Jesus Christ says about this issue....https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew24

Cedwards38
07-29-2014, 07:25 AM
So I guess it was a "perceived affront" when 3,000 innocent civilians were murdered (in the name of a hijacked world religion) in NYC, our nation's capital, and the scorched hole in a PA field on 9/11/01, and we should have done nothing in response. (?!?!?!?!?)

Nope, that was not a perceived affront, but rather that was a violation of international law and the perpetrators should be tracked down and punished for it, which is exactly what we did.

tucson
07-29-2014, 07:39 AM
Nope, that was not a perceived affront, but rather that was a violation of international law and the perpetrators should be tracked down and punished for it, which is exactly what we did.

ONLY Jesus can and will change this world...

Tennisnut
07-29-2014, 07:40 AM
I don't think the world is in any worse shape that it has been in the past.

If we look back on the succession of our conflicts including World War II, World War I, the American Civil War, and so on and so on, all the way back to the Dark Ages, we see that homo sapiens breed conflict. Human beings, I'm sorry to say, for all of our boasting about how superior we are to the rest of life forms, seem to be judgmental and violent by nature. The only difference today is that most of the conflict and killing in today's world is done in the name of a religion. Now before you get riled up, I'm a Christian, but I'm just telling you what I observe.

What can we do? Try to overcome our nature and thus stop being so judgmental, and stop reacting to perceived affronts with violence. Teach our children to see the world in a different way.

Good luck with that.

Maybe I was too hasty in my judgement. This is a positive comment. The world has problems, the world has always had problems but it is how we we address those issues with compassion, hope and and have where with all to change.

Taltarzac725
07-29-2014, 07:44 AM
So I guess it was a "perceived affront" when 3,000 innocent civilians were murdered (in the name of a hijacked world religion) in NYC, our nation's capital, and the scorched hole in a PA field on 9/11/01, and we should have done nothing in response. (?!?!?!?!?)

They got Osama Bib Laden who was supposedly the master mind behind this attack. I do think we should stop monsters like Bin Laden, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot,. etc with whatever means possible. The United Nations, though, should have the real force.

graciegirl
07-29-2014, 07:51 AM
I can remember my mother telling me stories of people knocking on their door during the depression, for food and a warm place to sleep. My grandmother would make them a sandwich (whatever), allow them to sleep in the barn, and tell them to pick some vegetables or fruit to take with them. In exchange, they would milk the cows or split fire wood. That day is long gone.

I cringe when I hear the problem is too big for any individual. It has to start with the individual and not depend on the government. Just a few simple things that come to mind:
When tissues are on sale, donate them to a head start program
When there's a bogo on laundry detergent, donate one to a animal rescue
When you find you don't like the case of black beans you purchased at Costco, donate
to a food bank.

Right now we're down sizing. The baby stuff we had for our grandchildren when they slept over will be going to a young couple starting out. We've asked when they are done with the items to donate to a shelter for abused woman with children. What you may see as junk, would make a tremendous difference to someone else.

The mess of the world begins with us.

Excellent post. Nana for president.

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Patty55
07-29-2014, 07:53 AM
ONLY Jesus can and will change this world...

I'm thinking sometimes he needs a little help.

tucson
07-29-2014, 08:02 AM
Patty, God knows what He is doing and what He has planned for the world. Prayer is a mighty force that can move mountains, and God will not be mocked.

NotGolfer
07-29-2014, 08:05 AM
Several days before Jesus was impaled, the disciples came to him and asked him about the future. They were interested in knowing about the establishment of God’s Kingdom, of which Jesus had so often spoken. They also wanted to know about “the conclusion of the system of things,” or as some translations render that expression, “the end of the world.”—Matthew 24:3, American Standard Version; King James Version.
, Jesus foretold that there would be large-scale wars, famines, pestilences, and great earthquakes. He also said that lawlessness would increase, false religious teachers would mislead many, and true Christians would be hated and persecuted. —Matthew 24:4-13; Luke 21:11.
---------------------------------------------------

2 Timothy 3: 1-5

But know this, that in the last days+ critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power;+ and from these turn away.

Couldn't be said any better!! Truth from God Himself!

Taltarzac725
07-29-2014, 08:17 AM
I'm thinking sometimes he needs a little help.

Unless you believe God controls tornadoes, hurricanes, fires, floods, epidemics, cures, politicians, criminals, etc. God needs a lot of help. He did give us free will so it is pretty much up to us. Of course, he can see what Putin might do in 2030 if Putin is still in power in Russia at that time. We cannot.

Now, whether we make the right decisions may be under his influence to a certain extent. I do believe God works through our consciences and dreams and gives us hints at what we should do.

Rags123
07-29-2014, 08:32 AM
I don't think the world is in any worse shape that it has been in the past.

If we look back on the succession of our conflicts including World War II, World War I, the American Civil War, and so on and so on, all the way back to the Dark Ages, we see that homo sapiens breed conflict. Human beings, I'm sorry to say, for all of our boasting about how superior we are to the rest of life forms, seem to be judgmental and violent by nature. The only difference today is that most of the conflict and killing in today's world is done in the name of a religion. Now before you get riled up, I'm a Christian, but I'm just telling you what I observe.

What can we do? Try to overcome our nature and thus stop being so judgmental, and stop reacting to perceived affronts with violence. Teach our children to see the world in a different way.

Good luck with that.

Your statement is correct, however the world is micro small when compared to any time in the past, and we now have powerful deadly nuclear weapons or capability.

Patty55
07-29-2014, 08:54 AM
Patty, God knows what He is doing and what He has planned for the world. Prayer is a mighty force that can move mountains, and God will not be mocked.

Y'know, all this God stuff on this thread is getting out of hand. I do believe in the power of prayer, but I believe it to be more of an internal thing.

I think sometimes God needs a helping hand, so... I believe in the USMC, the SEALS, a good education and hard work.

Madelaine Amee
07-29-2014, 08:57 AM
Y'know, all this God stuff on this thread is getting out of hand. I do believe in the power of prayer, but I believe it to be more of an internal thing.

I think sometimes God needs a helping hand, so... I believe in the USMC, the SEALS, a good education and hard work.

:agree:

perrjojo
07-29-2014, 08:58 AM
Everyone needs to read what the Lord Jesus Christ says about this issue....https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew24

I appreciate your advise but not everyone believes in The Lord Jesus Christ. In fact many of the world's problems are due to different views on Religion.

Taltarzac725
07-29-2014, 09:00 AM
Y'know, all this God stuff on this thread is getting out of hand. I do believe in the power of prayer, but I believe it to be more of an internal thing.

I think sometimes God needs a helping hand, so... I believe in the USMC, the SEALS, a good education and hard work.

Me too. If you read some of the Gospels too it seems more about sincere belief in God in private rather than ostentatious pageantry in public.

perrjojo
07-29-2014, 09:02 AM
I doubt the world is any bigger mess but two things have changed. Instant communication lets us know more and the weapons we have available can harm a lot more people.

graciegirl
07-29-2014, 09:07 AM
I doubt the world is any bigger mess but two things have changed. Instant communication lets us know more and the weapons we have available can harm a lot more people.

You are very right in my very uneducated opinion.

tucson
07-29-2014, 09:08 AM
Me too. If you read some of the Gospels too it seems more about sincere belief in God in private rather than ostentatious pageantry in public.

We must preach the gospel to the whole world :-) Praise His Holy Name.

Patty55
07-29-2014, 09:34 AM
We must preach the gospel to the whole world :-) Praise His Holy Name.

I was raised Catholic, went to Mass pretty much every Sunday but recruitment wasn't required.

Then we got a boat and horses but thankfully had the Catholic loophole that God is everywhere. You want to see praising of his holy name, spend a Sunday at the Jumper Ring-LOL.

You all need to lighten up.

kittygilchrist
07-29-2014, 09:47 AM
Y'know, all this God stuff on this thread is getting out of hand. I do believe in the power of prayer, but I believe it to be more of an internal thing.

I think sometimes God needs a helping hand, so... I believe in the USMC, the SEALS, a good education and hard work.

Agree that some of pushing for God in the thread is insensitive. I also agree that our military, education, and work ethic would be useful, if we had a moral compass.

graciegirl
07-29-2014, 09:53 AM
Good people all, and all worried about the wars. And the badness, and the sadness and the killing and the robbing and the raping and the meanness.

We can govern ourselves and hope for better outside of ourselves. And try to vote for the people who have common sense.

TexaninVA
07-29-2014, 09:57 AM
They got Osama Bib Laden who was supposedly the master mind behind this attack. I do think we should stop monsters like Bin Laden, Stalin, Hitler, Mussolini, Pol Pot,. etc with whatever means possible. The United Nations, though, should have the real force.

The reality is the primary force for peace and stability, since the end of WWII, has been American military power. You can look around and see the results of what happens when that power is withdrawn (eg Iraq). Nature abhors a vacuum and there are lots of bad actors (eg ISIL) who will fill it.

Also, given that the UN is largely a collection of 3rd world socialist or authoritarian states, giving them the "real force" is not a good idea. America would be the loser on that deal IHMO.

Patty55
07-29-2014, 10:21 AM
Getting back on topic, I think a big part of the problem is TMI. In one of or gulf wars I remember our military invaded with dashboard type cameras and it was shown on CNN. What was that about?

I think in this country the line between fantasy and reality is blurred. So many people (and not just children)believe all those insipid reality shows are real. They end up glorifying teen pregnancy, bored housewives and families who speak so badly they need subtitles.

There is no accountability, if a boy is old enough to father a child he should "man up" and support it financially. Back in the day I worked on the Child Support Enforcement project title IV-D. I guess it's no longer in effect, I see a lot of deadbeat dads wandering around and welfare customers not working. Perhaps it's over simplifying the problem but the boys should be raised to respect the girls and the girls need to be taught to respect themselves.

I've been flamed in the past for saying that this is no longer the country I grew up in. Not to get political, but I believe in the process, this is the country that the majority wants, so be it.

kittygilchrist
07-29-2014, 10:30 AM
Patty, in an earlier post, you asked for the lighter side.

Http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wneCa_yIuzg

Click above...it's there even tho you can't see it.

Me Buffett singing fruitcakes. Guaranteed to lift the mood.

Patty55
07-29-2014, 10:36 AM
Patty, in an earlier post, you asked for the lighter side.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wneCa_yIuzg

Click above...

Me Buffett singing fruitcakes. Guaranteed to lift the mood.

Quoted your post to show the link.

Loved it, how apropos.

Taltarzac725
07-29-2014, 11:32 AM
The reality is the primary force for peace and stability, since the end of WWII, has been American military power. You can look around and see the results of what happens when that power is withdrawn (eg Iraq). Nature abhors a vacuum and there are lots of bad actors (eg ISIL) who will fill it.

Also, given that the UN is largely a collection of 3rd world socialist or authoritarian states, giving them the "real force" is not a good idea. America would be the loser on that deal IHMO.

Here is a recent example of the UN at work:

Here are the 11 U.N. members that voted against a resolution on Ukraine’s unity - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/03/27/here-are-the-11-u-n-members-that-voted-against-a-resolution-on-ukraines-unity/)

Suzi
07-29-2014, 06:30 PM
I fear that our country is in serious trouble. The social decay of a considerable number of our citizens; the rampant belief that life revolves around them; parenting is a secondary occupation; disrespect for our environment; entitlement mentality and loss of hope. The world, on the whole, is becoming a more dangerous place and death due to religion is going to be more common place. Its scary and sad and I feel very bad leaving this mess for my children and grandchildren.
I have to say I am at a loss of what to do or where to start. I'm not a religious person but I am very spiritual. I was raised with the 10 commandments and believe in a christian way of living. I was raised and I raised my children with the same principles of respect for others and tolerance of differences. Even if we could institute changes in our country that would bring about healthy changes, how do we inspire the rest of the world?

Rags123
07-29-2014, 06:58 PM
Let's try this again using Albright's statement on CBS instead of my calling it "gone to hell in a handbasket"...

What do you think of current world affairs, and if you can say it without political sides taken, what can we personally do or espouse as a nation?

For new posters, you may not promote your party or bash the other party. If you do, the thread will be closed.


WARNING....I will end this post by saying.....I DONT KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO RESOLVE ALL THIS.

My thoughts are not popular at all. The world lacks leadership. The folks, whether they be Muslim, Christian or whatever that want to take control with terror and warfare are seeing a clear lane. Thus they almost can kill at will, and inflict pain on innocents.

In Syria, it has been years where they still are killing children in the streets and the same leadership remains. In Iran, they process nuclear (I KNOW what they say it is for) unfettered and also threaten Israel with extinction. Israel is threatned by Hamas. Iraq has erupted once again and Turkey who opened their borders to allow fighters into Syria are not fighting with ISIS.

Not even mentioning Libya where Ansar al Sharia is getting a strong foothold.

All of this...Hamas, Ansar al Sharia, ISIS, Al-Qaeda are terrorist groups. I would think that they all want somewhat what Hamas got which was a victory at the ballot box.

For me, the center piece is nuclear weapons and what that could mean to our world. Our world is small.....not nearly what it used to be, and I am always reminded of the gasing of the Tokyo subway by a far east religious group which was intended to be nuclear but they lost patience. They had found the nuclear material they needed and had a price...just could not wait.

My fear is that someone somewhere will have the patience and wherewithall to get their hands on nuclear weapons that can destroy MILLIONS of people in a nano second. That would destablize this world enough to allow these folks to gain control they want where they want.

Sounds crazy...scary, but I have not even eggarated one thing.

How to stop them is the question. We can ignore them and say we have our own problems and hope their "antics" do not come on our shores. We can work on doing something within the UN, which was established to tackle this stuff, but I would not hold out much hope there. We can try and mobilize all of our allies to fight these folks, but then the question is HOW do we fight them.

If you have been keeping up, the war is now one being waged in cyber land. In 2012 Secy of Defense Panetta raised this issue and called the cyber threat the most serious. The classic fear is that enemy hackers – from countries like Iran, China, or Russia – could infiltrate the U.S. power grid, shutting down government agencies, crashing planes into buildings, and grinding the economy to a halt.

I actually am typing a long post and we should never live our life in fear, but we must keep all of this in front of us as we waste time, my words, in self absorbed politics.

We do take things for granted in this country and we do not think it, but the war is going on and on and on, perhaps without us.

I DONT KNOW EXACTLY HOW TO RESOLVE ALL THIS.

Tennisnut
07-29-2014, 07:08 PM
Here is a recent example of the UN at work:

Here are the 11 U.N. members that voted against a resolution on Ukraine’s unity - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/03/27/here-are-the-11-u-n-members-that-voted-against-a-resolution-on-ukraines-unity/)

And there were 100 that voted in favor and ten along with Russia voted against. I would consider that a landslide.

Deseylou
07-30-2014, 06:22 AM
The world has always has bad,bad,bad people in it
There are also good people.
When people want to rule, and are unwilling to listen to a differing opinion, strife occurs.
I don't believe we will ever have world peace.
The best we can hope for is, world tolerance.
I'm sorry, I don't communicate very well via the written word.
Debbie

Rags123
07-30-2014, 10:06 AM
This is an opinion piece from a gentleman in Pakistan. He happens to share my fear of nuclear terrorism, and he is in the middle of the area.

This is not to scare anyone...does not seem from the comments it would anyway, but we BETTER be aware, not in fear....AWARE. Once that occurs, the world will change forever.

"During the last 16 years, Pakistan and India have doubled the number of their nuclear warheads, making them the fastest growing nuclear weapons states in the world. However, India has deployed a nuclear triad of bombers, missiles and a submarine capable of firing nuclear weapons. Pakistan has also developed a network of nuclear weapons factories, plutonium reactors and nuclear missiles. India has invested a lot on spy satellites, aircraft, drones and early warning radar, while Pakistan has developed spy and modern warning systems. At present, both the states hold a massive nuclear stockpile and the size of this stockpile has doubled since 1998. Both states have developed cruise missiles and are seeking nuclear submarines. China’s tacit support to Pakistan for boosting the country’s nuclear weapons is considered to have strategic implications for India. All these weapons and strategic developments in both the states mean that confidence-building measures remain only on paper with no one wanting to extend the hand of cooperation."

"This day-to-day militarisation of potential conflict, the withdrawal of NATO and US forces from Afghanistan, and civil wars in the Middle East have all intensified the war of interests between the two states. In the presence of all these weapons, the danger of nuclear terrorism, the potential spread of nuclear materials in the black market and the recent threatened control of nuclear materials by Sunni terrorist groups (ISIS) in Iraq, has raised serious questions about the safety and security of nuclear weapons in South Asia. Pakistan faces a series of threats to its national security. These threats come from the Taliban and the likely potential use of chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear (CBRN) devices by domestic terrorist and extremist groups. The international task force on the prevention of nuclear terrorism has also warned that the “possibility of nuclear terrorism is increasing” because of a number of factors including “the conventional forms of terrorism” and the vulnerability of nuclear power and research reactors to sabotage and of weapons-usable nuclear materials to theft."

The danger of nuclear terrorism in South Asia (http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/opinion/22-Jul-2014/the-danger-of-nuclear-terrorism-in-south-asia)

To this I add the backdrop of what is happening in this country as our borders are swamped by folks that we have great sympathy for and we should IF their stories are true. I have read a few links this morning that seem to think the border crisis should not worry us relative to terrorist entries and that is based on the Mexican gangs not wanting to have the wrath of the US should a terrorist attack occur and have the entry point being from there. Let us hope so, but the pourous nature of the border is a bit scary since as I have read...so many are just allowed to roam until their hearings and then we just hope they show up.

Do I have an fear of terrorism both here and throughout the word...I DO. Is it irrational...I do not believe so at all. We tend to push aside the terrorism in other parts of the world as if we are secure here.....one look at the border crisis should stem that.

To the point of the thread...Albright was correct in her assessment, and as to what we as a nation can do.....hopefully we are doing things as we speak to keep tabs on what is happening in this world, and we as citizens should stop making fun of warnings that never become real. The recent Brooklyn Bridge item should give us pause. And do not allow politicians to play you....READ....the worst thing that will happen to politicians we do not want is for us to be INFORMED

Rags123
07-30-2014, 10:19 AM
Relative to cyber terrorism...a good thing not widely reported by the media...

" The U.S. House of Representatives took a major positive step towards increasing the nation’s cyber security posture today when, on a voice vote, it passed H.R. 3696, the “National Cybersecurity and Critical Infrastructure Protection Act.”

The NCCIP bill, co-sponsored by House Homeland Security Chairman Mike McCaul, Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson, Subcommittee Chair Patrick Meehan, and Subcommittee Ranking Member Yvette Clarke, clarifies a number of roles and responsibilities of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and it also strengthens key public/private partnerships."

House of Representatives Passes SAFETY Act Amendment | Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP - JDSupra (http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/house-of-representatives-passes-safety-a-42972/)