Home Invasion Update - Village of Duval

[GoldenHurricane]

Does anyone know what the results are of the Sumter County Sheriff's investigation regarding Saturday night's (August 16) violent attack on the female homeowner and robbery at her house?

[shcisamax]

What?

[GoldenHurricane]

I just heard about it today myself. Has anyone else heard anything about it?

[applesoffh]

Haven't heard or read a thing!

[GoldenHurricane]

I heard it firsthand today from a friend of the victim, who is still hospitalized.
But, I have another question, are TV and Sumter County Sheriff's Department permitting prison work release programs to clean up trash along roadsides in residential areas? Who were those fellows in the neon green jackets working last week around the Duval mailboxes and on Buena Vista from O'Dell Circle to 466A? That's where I saw them and the unmarked transport van.

[DougB]

Just curious why this is in the feminine Forum.

[GoldenHurricane]

I'm limited on my mobile app where I can post!

[Moderator]

Just curious why this is in the feminine Forum.

I'm limited on my mobile app where I can post!

Thread moved to General Discussion.

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[DougB]

I'm limited on my mobile app where I can post!

Oh, I see. Hope you get some answers.

[justjim]

I would think this would be on the News!

[marennorge]

We saw the Sumter County CSI unit there last night but did not know about anything happening there.

[PJUCTH]

Where in Duval did this take place and why is everyone so quiet about it ?

[sunnyatlast]

Where in Duval did this take place and why is everyone so quiet about it ?

My thoughts, too. Not knowing facts makes it worse and causes more worry.

[blue72]

Just curious why this is in the feminine Forum.

Remarkable, I tell ya!!!!!!!!!!!!

My Hero

[Jaggy]

This is disturbing on so many levels.. Can someone confirm that these statements are correct and we have not heard anything ANYWHERE about this crime???

[sunnyatlast]

We saw the Sumter County CSI unit there last night but did not know about anything happening there.

Where??

[GoldenHurricane]

Somewhere south off Alandari Lane. I don't know the address. My friend, who has actually visited the victim in the hospital, desires me to keep quiet. It is too close for comfort for me to keep quiet about it.

[tippyclubb]

Somewhere south off Alandari Lane. I don't know the address. My friend, who has actually visited the victim in the hospital, desires me to keep quiet. It is too close for comfort for me to keep quiet about it.

Good for you for not keeping quiet. This kind of of information should be known so people do not let their guard down and stay aware.

[lovsthosebigdogs]

This is very scary stuff. I have a friend living over there who is out of town for a while and would like to be able to give her some factual information. Anyone know where I can read about it? Is it in any newspaper or police report?

[marianne237]

The men you said in green t-shirts might be working for one of the landscape contractors. Saw them spreading mulch at the pond off St. Charles/Bailey a few days ago. Don't think they are prisoners.

[Bonanza]

Well, here it is a few days later (for me, anyway), and this is the first I'm hearing about this.

I think there are a number of things withheld from the newspaper and if you think about it, the reason should be obvious.

Making information such as this should be made public . . . not to scare anyone but to make people aware.
We all learn from the mistakes of others.
I think we would all like to know how this event happened and exactly what took place.

[PJUCTH]

If this is domestic violence it's no ones business. I for one will respect everyones privacy. However, if it is not. Please let us no more details. It is our business and there should be a responsibility to the community so that we can better keep ourselves safe. If law enforcement won't . Please fill us in. Is there a maniac on the loose in my neighborhood? I'm lucky enough to live with someone & my dogs.. I have many friends that are alone and I'm really worried about them not knowing.

[marennorge]

Saw the CSI unit on Persimmon Loop about halfway between Blueberry Way and Tallowtree. It bothers us, too, that we don't know if we should be concerned about some creep lurking in the neighborhood.

[PJUCTH]

Glad I'm not the only one. Again Why so Hush Hush. This is not because it'sThe Villages. The last rash of breakins was openly publicized

[Jdmiata]

[QUOTE=GoldenHurricane;925678]I heard it firsthand today from a friend of the victim, who is still hospitalized.
What did the friend say ?

[nitehawk]

GG Help!!!!

[buggyone]

Very surprised this has not been reported in the online news service.

[Birdie Dreamer]

Very surprised this has not been reported in the online news service.

Which suggests that there is more to this story than we have heard so far.

[kstew43]

I checked the police reports and found this incident. Not sure if this is the one people are referring too....

84-year-old Village of Glenbrook man arrested on felony charge of battery:024:

[maddie101]

The email version of the xxx paper that we cannot mention had MANY crimes listed today, including one domestic case of a man taking a knife to his brother in TV. this one stood out as another reminder to always take caution and not think there is no crime in our area :

Woman hospitalized after mugging at TJ Maxx parking lot
January 10, 2014 By Meta Minton Leave a Comment
A woman is recovering from serious injuries at The Villages Regional Hospital after she was mugged in the parking lot of TJ Maxx in the Rolling Acres Plaza in The Villages
The woman was in the parking lot when she was approached by a black male in his 20s wearing baggy pants with his underwear showing, , said Lady Lake Police Chief Chris McKinstry.
After taking the woman’s purse, the suspect fled on foot in the direction of the Target parking lot. The Lake County Sheriff’s Office brought in a blood hound and canine to search the area.
“It appears he got into a car and got out of the area rather quickly,” McKinstry said.
The woman suffered serious but not life-threatenting injuries, McKinstry said.
Those who may have information about the case are encouraged to contact the Lady Lake Police Department at 751-1565 or Crimeline at 1-800-423-TIPS.
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***** I just realized this says jan. Ignore post. Don't know why it was in today's newletter

[graciegirl]

Very surprised this has not been reported in the online news service.


I sent Meta the link to this thread. She is a very responsible journalist and the law enforcement agencies don't cover things up. It is public record when someone is arrested. Or a police call is made.

I can't think why we haven't heard something.

But as Bogie Shooter often says; "Patience, Grasshopper".

[NoMoSno]

Maybe, law enforcement is holding back on the story.
It is an ongoing investigation.
Releasing details too soon, may compromise an arrest.
I am sure we will get the scoop when the time is right.

[njbchbum]

Was it not discussed here that someone or some representative group was going to have regularly scheduled meetings/updates with Sumter police in order to obtain information on topics which would be of importance to us?

[graciegirl]

Was it not discussed here that someone or some representative group was going to have regularly scheduled meetings/updates with Sumter police in order to obtain information on topics which would be of importance to us?


Yeah. But there is no need with the current news sources we have. There must be a reason that nothing has yet been made public and I imagine it is for the greater good. I have complete trust in our law enforcement people.

[smcgirl]

I just received a phone call from someone who said it was in Hadley and it was a rape, and the men where caught. I wish I could confirm this with a fact sheet. She got her information a hour ago from a man at the post office..I hope I am not spreading gossip.But if it is not..we should be aware.

[graciegirl]

I just received a phone call from someone who said it was in Hadley and it was a rape, and the men where caught. I wish I could confirm this with a fact sheet. She got her information a hour ago from a man at the post office..I hope I am not spreading gossip.But if it is not..we should be aware.

You know, I thought perhaps that might be the case. I am hoping that the men(?) oh dear, plural?, were caught as you say..

And if we can make it easier on the victim by not knowing, then that is good.

[Bogie Shooter]

I just received a phone call from someone who said it was in Hadley and it was a rape, and the men where caught. I wish I could confirm this with a fact sheet. She got her information a hour ago from a man at the post office..I hope I am not spreading gossip.But if it is not..we should be aware.

Why do we need to be aware. The men were caught. What in life has changed??

[champion6]

I just received a phone call from someone who said it was in Hadley and it was a rape, and the men where caught. I wish I could confirm this with a fact sheet. She got her information a hour ago from a man at the post office..I hope I am not spreading gossip.But if it is not..we should be aware.Don't be concerned ... EVERY post is this thread is GOSSIP - including the original post.

[marennorge]

The CSI unit was back on Persimmon Loop this afternoon...

[buggyone]

Someone got a phone call from someone who got the information from someone at the post office - and they are concerned about possibly spreading gossip? :22yikes:

[smcgirl]

I thought people would like to know, this is not a newspaper. I would want to know. The person who told me was a good friend and was worried and upset. Let me be the first to say, I appreciate any information about a violent crime, I dont need to wait until the facts appear in court.

[Bogie Shooter]

I thought people would like to know, this is not a newspaper. I would want to know. The person who told me was a good friend and was worried and upset. Let me be the first to say, I appreciate any information about a violent crime, I dont need to wait until the facts appear in court.

And who did your good friend here this rumor from?

[smcgirl]

She told me it was the gentleman behind her in the Oxford Post Office.

[graciegirl]

Don't be concerned ... EVERY post is this thread is GOSSIP - including the original post.


I trust your information.

[GoldenHurricane]

The CSI unit was back on Persimmon Loop this afternoon...


That's in Duval and fits the general location of the incident my friend was telling me about. Thank you for the update. The Duval homeowner was attacked by a solo male (race, age, etc. unknown by me).

[HMLRHT1]

This is a copy of the email going around in the Duval area. I can not verify if any of this is true however using this info along with the info about the CSI van at the location on Persimmon and there was definitely something going on there. Here is the email,


Just a note to let you know there was a home invasion last Saturday at a home on Persimmon Loop in our village (Duval) where a single lady (65) was very badly beaten and is in the hospital. The invader was white, clean cut and in his mid thirties. He did not speak but only used sign language. Be sure all doors, windows and screen doors are kept locked.

[jbdlfan]

Why do we need to be aware. The men were caught. What in life has changed??

WOW! Um....I hope this opinion is in the minority. I pretty sure MOST people would like to be aware of the incident, even if the perp is caught.

[blueash]

Somewhere south off Alandari Lane. I don't know the address. My friend, who has actually visited the victim in the hospital, desires me to keep quiet. It is too close for comfort for me to keep quiet about it.

I am sorry you are stressed and have a personal connection to this event. However, and I may be out of line, if I ask someone be quiet and then they go and post on TOTV that is the exact opposite of what I asked and I would never again trust them with any information. You are not privy to what happened as evidenced by your posting, the victim may well have asked for privacy, the police may have asked that no information be released while their investigation is ongoing or myriad other reasons. Do not be surprised if your friend is not so much your friend when this is done. Your need to be comfortable by going online is not the important need in this event. I suggest you go to your friend and apologize for not respecting the confidentiality of the information entrusted to you. Again I may be out of place, but I feel very strongly about issues of trust and confidentiality. It seems so often that people don't understand how destructive loose lips can be.

[sunnyatlast]

This is a copy of the email going around in the Duval area. I can not verify if any of this is true however using this info along with the info about the CSI van at the location on Persimmon and there was definitely something going on there. Here is the email,


Just a note to let you know there was a home invasion last Saturday at a home on Persimmon Loop in our village (Duval) where a single lady (65) was very badly beaten and is in the hospital. The invader was white, clean cut and in his mid thirties. He did not speak but only used sign language. Be sure all doors, windows and screen doors are kept locked.

I notice the circulating email does not say "the man was caught" and that people should be on guard.

[sunnyatlast]

I am sorry you are stressed and have a personal connection to this event. However, and I may be out of line, if I ask someone be quiet and then they go and post on TOTV that is the exact opposite of what I asked and I would never again trust them with any information. You are not privy to what happened as evidenced by your posting, the victim may well have asked for privacy, the police may have asked that no information be released while their investigation is ongoing or myriad other reasons. Do not be surprised if your friend is not so much your friend when this is done. Your need to be comfortable by going online is not the important need in this event. I suggest you go to your friend and apologize for not respecting the confidentiality of the information entrusted to you. Again I may be out of place, but I feel very strongly about issues of trust and confidentiality. It seems so often that people don't understand how destructive loose lips can be.

1. Friends are not subject to HIPAA laws of privacy-confidentiality. Friendship is not a legal arrangement. It is a connection of hearts and minds.

2. Friends know their friend better than strangers reading here know that particular victim's view of confidentiality of things she said in a traumatized and possibly sedated state.

3. Friends use their better judgement to decide whether to remain silent and enable another home invasion and beating or rape, or to speak up so others don't meet the same fate.

4. A victimized friend in the hospital would deeply regret saying nothing or telling her friend to say nothing if the hearer or another woman in the vicinity were beaten, raped or killed by the same suspect on the loose.

5. The quote above is arrogant and condescending.

[Skybo]

An article has now been posted to the online news site.

[GoldenHurricane]

I am sorry you are stressed and have a personal connection to this event. However, and I may be out of line, if I ask someone be quiet and then they go and post on TOTV that is the exact opposite of what I asked and I would never again trust them with any information. You are not privy to what happened as evidenced by your posting, the victim may well have asked for privacy, the police may have asked that no information be released while their investigation is ongoing or myriad other reasons. Do not be surprised if your friend is not so much your friend when this is done. Your need to be comfortable by going online is not the important need in this event. I suggest you go to your friend and apologize for not respecting the confidentiality of the information entrusted to you. Again I may be out of place, but I feel very strongly about issues of trust and confidentiality. It seems so often that people don't understand how destructive loose lips can be.


My "friend" sought me out to warn me, and he helped in the composition of the original post when we met last night at one of the country clubs. We posted it together at the time via the app on my phone.
The facts purported in the email above are what he shared with me as well. I agreed not to mention the victim's name.

[Bogie Shooter]

WOW! Um....I hope this opinion is in the minority. I pretty sure MOST people would like to be aware of the incident, even if the perp is caught.

I still wonder why?

[Bogie Shooter]

I am sorry you are stressed and have a personal connection to this event. However, and I may be out of line, if I ask someone be quiet and then they go and post on TOTV that is the exact opposite of what I asked and I would never again trust them with any information. You are not privy to what happened as evidenced by your posting, the victim may well have asked for privacy, the police may have asked that no information be released while their investigation is ongoing or myriad other reasons. Do not be surprised if your friend is not so much your friend when this is done. Your need to be comfortable by going online is not the important need in this event. I suggest you go to your friend and apologize for not respecting the confidentiality of the information entrusted to you. Again I may be out of place, but I feel very strongly about issues of trust and confidentiality. It seems so often that people don't understand how destructive loose lips can be.

Well stated.

[Bogie Shooter]

Well, here it is a few days later (for me, anyway), and this is the first I'm hearing about this.

I think there are a number of things withheld from the newspaper and if you think about it, the reason should be obvious.

Making information such as this should be made public . . . not to scare anyone but to make people aware.
We all learn from the mistakes of others.
I think we would all like to know how this event happened and exactly what took place.

Glad I'm not the only one. Again Why so Hush Hush. This is not because it'sThe Villages. The last rash of breakins was openly publicized

Article in today's (8/21) Daily Sun.

[nitehawk]

Well stated.

One persons opinion --- not mine thank you

[graciegirl]

I think they were trying to be diplomatic and tell us not to worry. Please note that she was hospitalized on an unrelated issue.

[Carla B]

I still wonder why?

"Why" is obvious to females, not so much to men from Mars.

[jazzy48]

I can't imagine why anyone would not want to know about a true home invasion and attack, especially if it was in or near their village. To be aware is essential for your own safety.

With that said, I have read the article, and at NO PLACE IN THE ARTICLE does it CONFIRM that there was actually a home invasion and/or an attack. To the contrary, after reading the article, unless new evidence comes out, I feel I can personally put this report to rest.

[TVMayor]

I can't imagine why anyone would not want to know about a true home invasion and attack, especially if it was in or near their village. To be aware is essential for your own safety.

With that said, I have read the article, and at NO PLACE IN THE ARTICLE does it CONFIRM that there was actually a home invasion and/or an attack. To the contrary, after reading the article, unless new evidence comes out, I feel I can personally put this report to rest.
From a different news source in part.
It has been confirmed that Sumter County sheriff’s deputies had been called to the home at 7 a.m. Sunday to a report of a burglary and assault.

The 65-year-old victim told deputies that a man had entered her home and attacked her. The woman said the man had locked her in a closet before he left her residence.

[Jejuca]

According to the news article it appears that the victim is reporting different versions of what took place. Just because a crime was reported it doesn't mean happened.

[MoeVonB61]

PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE......just pray for the victim and respect her privacy. FACT: your living in the Villages, the Developer, Mr. Morse has built a beautiful and wonderful place for Retirees but the gates are a TOTAL façade.....there is NO SECURITY HERE...you have to get your own!!! FACT: Mr. Morse owns ALOT of the so called "independent" commercial businesses including the bank AND the Daily Sun. The Morse's goal is Sales, Sales, Sales. Just like we do not EVER have Democratic or Independent campaigning here despite the fact that MANY of the residents HERE are, the Morses "control" a lot!! Do you think news of violent crimes breaking out (just like the news of STD's would help the Sales nationally???...NOT..... your better off getting the Orlando Sentinel delivered to your house for "unfiltered" news..

[CFrance]

This home invasion part all sounds fishy. Like a domestic situation, or something.

[Uberschaf]

I live in Duval and I got a neighborhood email but I did not post here because I thought it was gossip.Still do.

[Big O]

PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE......just pray for the victim and respect her privacy. FACT: your living in the Villages, the Developer, Mr. Morse has built a beautiful and wonderful place for Retirees but the gates are a TOTAL façade.....there is NO SECURITY HERE...you have to get your own!!! FACT: Mr. Morse owns ALOT of the so called "independent" commercial businesses including the bank AND the Daily Sun. The Morse's goal is Sales, Sales, Sales. Just like we do not EVER have Democratic or Independent campaigning here despite the fact that MANY of the residents HERE are, the Morses "control" a lot!! Do you think news of violent crimes breaking out (just like the news of STD's would help the Sales nationally???...NOT..... your better off getting the Orlando Sentinel delivered to your house for "unfiltered" news..

So now this is a political thing? That's a stretch even for a ****crat.

[Bogie Shooter]

PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE......just pray for the victim and respect her privacy. FACT: your living in the Villages, the Developer, Mr. Morse has built a beautiful and wonderful place for Retirees but the gates are a TOTAL façade.....there is NO SECURITY HERE...you have to get your own!!! FACT: Mr. Morse owns ALOT of the so called "independent" commercial businesses including the bank AND the Daily Sun. The Morse's goal is Sales, Sales, Sales. Just like we do not EVER have Democratic or Independent campaigning here despite the fact that MANY of the residents HERE are, the Morses "control" a lot!! Do you think news of violent crimes breaking out (just like the news of STD's would help the Sales nationally???...NOT..... your better off getting the Orlando Sentinel delivered to your house for "unfiltered" news..

Whats filtered? Item has been reported on the online news and printed in the Daily Sun.

[Chi-Town]

I live in Duval and I got a neighborhood email but I did not post here because I thought it was gossip.Still do.
I also received a neighborhood email in my Village. It referenced personal knowledge from the woman's son-in-law. Said that it occurred Saturday at 7:30 p.m., a male Hispanic entered through an unlocked door and raped and beat her. It sounded so much like one if those bogus scare'em emails that I also chose not to post it. Now I'm not so sure.

[dirtbanker]

PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE......just pray for the victim and respect her privacy. FACT: your living in the Villages, the Developer, Mr. Morse has built a beautiful and wonderful place for Retirees but the gates are a TOTAL façade.....there is NO SECURITY HERE...you have to get your own!!! FACT: Mr. Morse owns ALOT of the so called "independent" commercial businesses including the bank AND the Daily Sun. The Morse's goal is Sales, Sales, Sales. Just like we do not EVER have Democratic or Independent campaigning here despite the fact that MANY of the residents HERE are, the Morses "control" a lot!! Do you think news of violent crimes breaking out (just like the news of STD's would help the Sales nationally???...NOT..... your better off getting the Orlando Sentinel delivered to your house for "unfiltered" news..


I don't pray, I will leave that to you (I do hope it helps both, the victim and you)

I inquired about getting my own gate for security and it was denied.

There are a lot of things Mr. Morse does not own...for the things he does own; I am sure he worked hard and took risks for them.

When you mention "Democratic"; I assume you are speaking of the political party and not the process? No shortage of Dems here, not sure why they don't campaign much here, I will assume they don't feel they would get the return for the money and effort.

How many people do you know first hand that have contracted STD here in the Villages?

[kittygilchrist]

This home invasion part all sounds fishy. Like a domestic situation, or something.

:agree: I thought I was being too suspicious, but something just doesn't meet the eye....
At the very least there's string of unlikely stuff: golf cart accident, then a home invasion and personal attack, then going to the hospital with something else wrong?
Do your closets have locks? Mine do not.

[Uberschaf]

Do your closets have locks? Mine do not.(Kitty) Mine don't only my my mind has locks.

[Bizdoc]

When this first came up, people were demanding details and rather pointedly saying that the police weren't forthcoming. The reality is that often the police *don't* know instantly what happened and want time to investigate and trying to make sense of things. Demanding that they keep everyone informed is not exactly a good way to (1) let them determine the facts and (2) respect the privacy of the alleged rape victim.

It is not unusual for a victim to give confused stories and to change the story as it is retold, especially after trauma. It would be much more troubling if nothing changed in the retelling - then it would look much more like a "story".

At this point, I'd suggest that we let the police do their job and let this poor lady have some privacy. Amazingly, I saw much more compassion for the "sex on the square" lady than I am seeing for this woman.

[kstew43]

why would someone make up getting raped? attempted or otherwise....

people scrutinize so much.......

knowledge is power and for my thinking I need to be reminded that we are not in Disney world like some would have us believe, this is the real world and I want to know what to look out for and where to be careful by hearing of other peoples experiences.

[Indydealmaker]

why would someone make up getting raped? attempted or otherwise....

people scrutinize so much.......

knowledge is power and for my thinking I need to be reminded that we are not in Disney world like some would have us believe, this is the real world and I want to know what to look out for and where to be careful by hearing of other peoples experiences.

In your quest for KNOWLEDGE, you might be wise to remember that you are more likely to find gossip and rumor on this website.

Remember that among the posts on this thread you will find that this incident reportedly happened at two different addresses in neighborhoods quite distant from each other. How is that KNOWLEDGE?

As far as your personal security is concerned, The Villages is no different than most any other semi-rural small community with regard to incidental crime. In other words, anything bad can happen at any time and any place with zero warning.

That is the world today. Live your life accordingly. Be aware. Take basic personal and home security precautions ALWAYS. Not just when you hear of an incident near you.

[Bogie Shooter]

Very sound advice!

[dirtbanker]

Amazingly, I saw much more compassion for the "sex on the square" lady than I am seeing for this woman.

Are you suggesting they should name a drink after her? :jester:

I mean really, just wait till they find out the guy who attacked this woman "suffered" from alcoholism or some other condition (ex. sex addict), some on here might complain that the sentence was too harsh for the crime...

I need to be reminded that we are not in Disney world like some would have us believe, this is the real world and I want to know what to look out for and where to be careful by hearing of other peoples experiences.

It seems obvious that the perpetrator of this act has some "issues". People with issues are usually drawn to areas that stimulate them. Unfortunately, even Disney World attracts people with "issues" (lots of children for the pedophile to admire). :-(

[sunnyatlast]

Knowing that many men pooh pooh and even mock women's rational, justifiable fear of being raped at knifepoint or gunpoint, that pooh-poohing and mockery is why we fear we're not being told the whole story, and it's why we keep asking to know the whole story.

[Chazz]

One persons opinion --- not mine thank you

Nor mine!

[graciegirl]

Please re-read the newspaper article.

It is obvious to me from this article and the one in the online news that the diligent and careful sheriff's department is doing their duty to be sure everything is researched but there seems to be no crime. It appears that the person who called them was overmedicated with alcohol and prescription medication which you should not take together.

[pwrabbit]

Read the article in villages - news.com not much information.

[graciegirl]

In your quest for KNOWLEDGE, you might be wise to remember that you are more likely to find gossip and rumor on this website.

Remember that among the posts on this thread you will find that this incident reportedly happened at two different addresses in neighborhoods quite distant from each other. How is that KNOWLEDGE?

As far as your personal security is concerned, The Villages is no different than most any other semi-rural small community with regard to incidental crime. In other words, anything bad can happen at any time and any place with zero warning.

That is the world today. Live your life accordingly. Be aware. Take basic personal and home security precautions ALWAYS. Not just when you hear of an incident near you.

Excellent post Steve, as always.

[Sable99]

Please re-read the newspaper article.

It is obvious to me from this article and the one in the online news that the diligent and careful sheriff's department is doing their duty to be sure everything is researched but there seems to be no crime. It appears that the person who called them was overmedicated with alcohol and prescription medication which you should not take together.

Thanks Gracie for posting the Daily Sun article. I thought there was a lot of discrepancies in the TOTV posts. I haven't been able to pull up the article on the online newspaper. I've have even done searches on home invasion, assault, rape and August 16. I don't know if it is because I am in Michigan or not!?!?!

Thanks again!

Marilyn

[Walt.]

I still wonder why?

Maybe, just maybe, it might get some people to stop playing make-believe and realize that bad things can happen anywhere. Even here.
On the TOTV these folks have decided that any trash along the roadways is thrown there by renters or visiting children... never by anybody who actually lives here full-time.
The only rude and inconsiderate people here are the snowbirds.
All burglaries are committed by the landscaping or construction people. Actually, these supposed burglaries don't actually even happen; these are just rumors started by somebody who hates the Villages for some unknown reason. Perhaps a resident of some other community.

Keep your doors locked when not in use. Same for windows. Why in the world do people leave their garage doors open when they go somewhere?
The Villages is better than most... but some folks need waking up.

[mickey100]

Maybe, just maybe, it might get some people to stop playing make-believe and realize that bad things can happen anywhere. Even here.
On the TOTV these folks have decided that any trash along the roadways is thrown there by renters or visiting children... never by anybody who actually lives here full-time.
The only rude and inconsiderate people here are the snowbirds.
All burglaries are committed by the landscaping or construction people. Actually, these supposed burglaries don't actually even happen; these are just rumors started by somebody who hates the Villages for some unknown reason. Perhaps a resident of some other community.

Keep your doors locked when not in use. Same for windows. Why in the world do people leave their garage doors open when they go somewhere?
The Villages is better than most... but some folks need waking up.

Good common sense post. Thank you!

[Bogie Shooter]

Yep, just common sense................................

[kstew43]

so which is the truth, the on line news, or the newspaper regulated by the villages developers.....

seems to me the builder would not want bad press, as we all know, so my vote would be possibly more accurate information would be on-line news.

[GoldenHurricane]

What I write is hearsay, so take it with a grain of salt. My friend and co-contributor in the original post on this thread, on the other hand, is a bona fide witness. He has spoken with the Duval victim and has seen the abrasions and bruises during a hospital visit with her caused by the perpetrator. In my opinion, The Daily Sun has misled its readers in stating that the victim's hospital visit has nothing to do with the home invasion.

[Mikeod]

In my opinion, The Daily Sun has misled its readers in stating that the victim's hospital visit has nothing to do with the home invasion.
Just FYI, the online news site made the same comment that the hospitalization was unrelated to the incident. I don't think that site is "controlled" by the developer. Just sayin'.

[CFrance]

Just FYI, the online news site made the same comment that the hospitalization was unrelated to the incident. I don't think that site is "controlled" by the developer. Just sayin'.
It's not connected in any way with the developer.

Again, there's something fishy about all this. Time will tell.

[capecodbob]

So the net result was a woman on meds and adult beverages? That caused her to make unusual and confusing claims. Same thing can happen to men?
Gee, this sounds like some of the posts here. Morse is controlling everything, Demo..... won't speak here, I heard, she said, he said. Ya de ya ya!!!

STOP taking meds and booze!!! :loco::loco::loco:

[Uberschaf]

It's not connected in any way with the developer.

Again, there's something fishy about all this. Time will tell."cfrance"
Agree.Looks like a duck,quacks like a duck.must be a duck.

[HMLRHT1]

Please re-read the newspaper article.

It is obvious to me from this article and the one in the online news that the diligent and careful sheriff's department is doing their duty to be sure everything is researched but there seems to be no crime. It appears that the person who called them was overmedicated with alcohol and prescription medication which you should not take together.

GracieGirl,
The individual in the article MAY have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Does it say there was NO crime committed? The individual could have been drugged by the attacker. You just never know until ALL the facts are in. Let's leave it at that. But you are entitled to your opinion.

[graciegirl]

GracieGirl,
The individual in the article MAY have been under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Does it say there was NO crime committed? The individual could have been drugged by the attacker. You just never know until ALL the facts are in. Let's leave it at that. But you are entitled to your opinion.

That was only my opinion. I have no insider information. Do not know anyone in the sheriff's office and do not know the developer. I have a grandson who will probably be president someday, but that is all the clout I have. I know this because his parents pointed it out when he was a baby.

I read the same two articles that you did. But I have women's intuition.

[perrjojo]

Obviously something very unfortunate happened. It was not reported because there was nothing to report. No one seems to know what really happened. Once law enforcement sorts it all out, we will know.

[LoriAnn]

With fines upward 1 million per HIPPA violation, I guarantee the hospital did not disclose that the woman's hospitalization was unrelated to the reported event. They would not even disclose to a member of the police dept without a court order or Patient permission. That statement by the reporter was conjecture. He/She could not have gained that information from a reliable source. I can't imagine that a woman would report a home invasion, burglary, beating, rape and then just happened to require hospitalization immediately afterward without it being related. Defies belief!

[charlie_marie]

With fines upward 1 million per HIPPA violation, I guarantee the hospital did not disclose that the woman's hospitalization was unrelated to the reported event. They would not even disclose to a member of the police dept without a court order or Patient permission. That statement by the reporter was conjecture. He/She could not have gained that information from a reliable source. I can't imagine that a woman would report a home invasion, burglary, beating, rape and then just happened to require hospitalization immediately afterward without it being related. Defies belief!

Finally a voice of reason !!

[sunnyatlast]

With fines upward 1 million per HIPPA violation, I guarantee the hospital did not disclose that the woman's hospitalization was unrelated to the reported event. They would not even disclose to a member of the police dept without a court order or Patient permission. That statement by the reporter was conjecture. He/She could not have gained that information from a reliable source. I can't imagine that a woman would report a home invasion, burglary, beating, rape and then just happened to require hospitalization immediately afterward without it being related. Defies belief!

Thank You!!

[boomerbaby]

golden hurricane as a woman that lives in Duval I want to thank you for alerting us that something happened in Duval, or any other village. Now 5 days later it was in the daily sun. I agree with Gracie that the article sounds very strange and so we will have to wait and see what the outcome is. If it is true it is so sad that this has happened and obviously something happened to her. If it ends up that it was not what golden hurricane reported I am ok with that because the op made it very clear that this is what they were told and felt people should be made aware to be on guard. I think it is easy to let your guard down in this wonderful place. I hope it ends up not being what you heard but I still thank you for alerting us.

[CFrance]

With fines upward 1 million per HIPPA violation, I guarantee the hospital did not disclose that the woman's hospitalization was unrelated to the reported event. They would not even disclose to a member of the police dept without a court order or Patient permission. That statement by the reporter was conjecture. He/She could not have gained that information from a reliable source. I can't imagine that a woman would report a home invasion, burglary, beating, rape and then just happened to require hospitalization immediately afterward without it being related. Defies belief!
Go back and read the article that Gracie posted. It was the police, not the hospital, who reported that the woman was transported to the hospital for reasons other than her injuries. The police are not subject to HIPPA, I don't believe.

[LoriAnn]

That was the point! The police made the statement to the reporter. That makes the statement unreliable. A police officer cannot make a diagnosis or even a medical judgement. Head injury from a beating could exhibit signs and symptoms that look like alcohol intoxication to a untrained individual. The statement that she was confused and changing her story is also a possible sign of head injury or TBI. That confusion can last for days, weeks, months. It's very difficult to justify an admission to a hospital in today's environment. Her injuries would have been evident and serious to justify inpatient care. The police officer would have no way of knowing her admission diagnosis due to HIPPA. Therefore, he has no way of knowing her care is unrelated to the reported event.

[kittygilchrist]

That was the point! The police made the statement to the reporter. That makes the statement unreliable. A police officer cannot make a diagnosis or even a medical judgement. Head injury from a beating could exhibit signs and symptoms that look like alcohol intoxication to a untrained individual. The statement that she was confused and changing her story is also a possible sign of head injury or TBI. That confusion can last for days, weeks, months. It's very difficult to justify an admission to a hospital in today's environment. Her injuries would have been evident and serious to justify inpatient care. The police officer would have no way of knowing her admission diagnosis due to HIPPA. Therefore, he has no way of knowing her care is unrelated to the reported event.

I cannot believe how people make up anything that comes to mind when they have no facts. This entire thread is chock full of assumptions, and claims to have known an eye witness or relative of the alleged victim, even though perhaps they only know what the alleged victim told them, but they believe what they heard is truth, even though law-enforcement says the victim making the allegations was confused.

My sense of it is, the alleged victim had issues, and so do most of us. Regarding her hospitalization, she was apparently substance impaired. Would that not explain confusion without having to fabricate a story about a brain injury?

[sunnyatlast]

I cannot believe how people make up anything that comes to mind when they have no facts. This entire thread is chock full of assumptions, claims to have known an eye witness or relative of the alleged victim.

My sense of it is, the alleged victim had issues, and so do most of us. Regarding her hospitalization, she was apparently "on something".. Would that not explain confusion without having to fabricate a story about a brain injury?

How is saying "she was apparently 'on something'" to explain her ALLEGED confusion not "chock full of assumptions"??

[kittygilchrist]

How is saying "she was apparently 'on something'" to explain her ALLEGED confusion not "chock full of assumptions"??

Substance impaired. Was that not reported by law enforcement?

[CFrance]

That was the point! The police made the statement to the reporter. That makes the statement unreliable. A police officer cannot make a diagnosis or even a medical judgement. Head injury from a beating could exhibit signs and symptoms that look like alcohol intoxication to a untrained individual. The statement that she was confused and changing her story is also a possible sign of head injury or TBI. That confusion can last for days, weeks, months. It's very difficult to justify an admission to a hospital in today's environment. Her injuries would have been evident and serious to justify inpatient care. The police officer would have no way of knowing her admission diagnosis due to HIPPA. Therefore, he has no way of knowing her care is unrelated to the reported event.
It was the police who were at the scene with the paramedics when she was taken to the hospital. It was obviously given to the police the reason for going to the hospital, either by the woman herself or the paramedics.
It was a police spokesperson who said her injuries were not what sent her to the hospital. How much more direct can you get? a POLICE SPOKESMAN who made the statement to the reporters. Nothing to do with HIPPA, who would tell you nothing, but eyewitness account by the police.

[LoriAnn]

How exactly do you know she was "on something". Did you do a drug screen and evaluate it? Why is the Victim always demonized? The only reliable facts are that a woman reported an intrusion, burglary and injury with an immediate hospitalization afterward. The fact that a Physician thought that she required immediate hospitalization is clear evidence of injury or illness. It doesn't matter how high ranking the police officer might be. They still are not entitled to private health information without a court order. They have no way of knowing her admission diagnosis or treatment while hospitalized. Their statements are unreliable. EMT's are under HIPPA obligation and their career would be over if they discussed or released information. I don't trust the information in the news report. I just don't think the matter can be filed under "she was just drunk". I'm sure everyone would sleep a little snugger in their beds thinking an intrusion and battery didn't occur. But, it won't go away just because you accuse the Victim of drunkenness, drug abuse and lies.

[CFrance]

How exactly do you know she was "on something". Did you do a drug screen and evaluate it? Why is the Victim always demonized? The only reliable facts are that a woman reported an intrusion, burglary and injury with an immediate hospitalization afterward. The fact that a Physician thought that she required immediate hospitalization is clear evidence of injury or illness.
Please quote the poster you are responding to. If it was I, I never said she was on something. Obviously she needed to go to the hospital, but it was stated by the police that is was Not because of any injuries incurred in the alleged home invasion.

This story has lots of cracks in it.

[graciegirl]

Here it is;

[kittygilchrist]

How exactly do you know she was "on something". Did you do a drug screen and evaluate it? Why is the Victim always demonized? The only reliable facts are that a woman reported an intrusion, burglary and injury with an immediate hospitalization afterward. The fact that a Physician thought that she required immediate hospitalization is clear evidence of injury or illness.

So are you saying that the that law-enforcement demonized the victim with their statement regarding substance induced difficulties getting a clear statement from the woman? I don't have any reliable facts, in truth, only what the two newspapers have said.
People have said the woman was assaulted physically. People have said the woman was assaulted sexually. Then someone says that she has a brain injury.

We don't know, and we Fill in the gaps with our own issues substituting unresolved emotional crap for what we don't know.

[LoriAnn]

I'm saying with absolute certainty that a police officer cannot reliably make a judgement that a person is having substance difficulty verses having symptoms from a head injury after they reported being beaten. Even an ER Physician would withhold that judgement until a full evaluation and testing was completed. That is why I do not think the news report is reliable. It seems to be a case of a police officer making an inappropriate unsupported comment to a reporter.

[linko38]

The story was in todays (Thursdays Daily sun. Buried in the local section.

[Skybo]

I can't imagine that a woman would report a home invasion, burglary, beating, rape and then just happened to require hospitalization immediately afterward without it being related. Defies belief!

Of all the crimes you just listed, "home invasion", to my knowledge, is the only one that the victim reported to the SCSO (along with assault, which you didn't mention). The "beating and rape" accounts have apparently been spread via emails, and this is the first I've heard of a burglary.

What you "can't imagine" does happen. Don't add to the unsubstantiated rumors and hysteria. Give it a few days and the real story will come out. The fact that it took so long for anyone to hear about it speaks volumes.

[kittygilchrist]

I'm saying with absolute certainty that a police officer cannot reliably make a judgement that a person is having substance difficulty verses having symptoms from a head injury after they reported being beaten. Even an ER Physician would withhold that judgement until a full evaluation and testing was completed. That is why I do not think the news report is reliable. It seems to be a case of a police officer making an inappropriate unsupported comment to a reporter.

Instead of making up a head injury, one could make up a story that she was delusional and that's why she was impaired and why she was admitted to ER.

[Big O]

I cannot believe how people make up anything that comes to mind when they have no facts. This entire thread is chock full of assumptions, and claims to have known an eye witness or relative of the alleged victim, even though perhaps they only know what the alleged victim told them, but they believe what they heard is truth, even though law-enforcement says the victim making the allegations was confused.

My sense of it is, the alleged victim had issues, and so do most of us. Regarding her hospitalization, she was apparently substance impaired. Would that not explain confusion without having to fabricate a story about a brain injury?

Using the facts would make this and a lot of other threads very short.

[Sable99]

I finally was able to read the article on the online newspaper by searching Duval!

[Cedwards38]

I can't find anything in the news about this. Can someone post a link please?

[kittygilchrist]

GG posted a picture of the article in the daily sun two times. On this thread.

[TraceyMooreRN]

Wow--what a thread. Rumors, head injury, impaired, ...either way this person was a victim to something. Everyone can post a guess (educated or otherwise).

IMO-Something happened domestic or stranger intruder related to this female. It is not likely Sumter County will use the resources to continue to explore a crime scene not once but multiple days if no crime was committed. Most (what I call crap calls) come out in either an admission of made up event very quickly into the investigation or there was some type of evidence that deemed to be investigated further.

Please note that patients/victims of violence have and still do present to hospitals labeled as " impaired or intoxicated " by EMS/Hospital/Police --unfortunately they sometimes are deemed critical with brain injuries/bleeds after immediate testing. Please save your judgment on this individual until all the facts are gathered.

Police can obtain court order for test results, however I believe the news/police are unable to report results due to HIPPA if the patient is alive. Just my understandings of HIPPA related to this thread.

[jbdlfan]

Wow. I think plenty of people need to take reading lessons. I urge everyone to go back and read both articles slowly without bias either way. Because by what I'm reading in these posts, if you were my students, most of you would not be doing very well.....

[Bonanza]

PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE......just pray for the victim and respect her privacy. FACT: your living in the Villages, the Developer, Mr. Morse has built a beautiful and wonderful place for Retirees but the gates are a TOTAL façade.....there is NO SECURITY HERE...you have to get your own!!! FACT: Mr. Morse owns ALOT of the so called "independent" commercial businesses including the bank AND the Daily Sun. The Morse's goal is Sales, Sales, Sales. Just like we do not EVER have Democratic or Independent campaigning here despite the fact that MANY of the residents HERE are, the Morses "control" a lot!! Do you think news of violent crimes breaking out (just like the news of STD's would help the Sales nationally???...NOT..... your better off getting the Orlando Sentinel delivered to your house for "unfiltered" news..

I don't pray, I will leave that to you (I do hope it helps both, the victim and you)

I inquired about getting my own gate for security and it was denied.

There are a lot of things Mr. Morse does not own...for the things he does own; I am sure he worked hard and took risks for them.

When you mention "Democratic"; I assume you are speaking of the political party and not the process? No shortage of Dems here, not sure why they don't campaign much here, I will assume they don't feel they would get the return for the money and effort.

How many people do you know first hand that have contracted STD here in the Villages?

Dirt -- I think you need to read more about about the past history in TV regarding things which have happened to known Democrats such as their cars being keyed and dog crap being thrown in their golf carts. Of course, that isn't all, but it gives you a good idea regarding the mindset of some Republicans here.

In the first quote above, mrich61, like it or not, is telling it like it is.

In addition, your comment back to him regarding praying was unnecessary.

[Bonanza]

Here it is;

In any other local newspaper, this probably would be front page news, even if it was a smaller article.

I find it strange that it was hidden on a nondescript page of nothingness.

[Bonanza]

Here it is;

In any other local newspaper, this probably would be front page news, even if it was a smaller article.

I find it strange that it was hidden on a nondescript page of nothingness.

I smell a fish; we'll see how it pans out!

[jazzeoneaj]

This person recently had a GARAGE SALE..................about 3 weeks ago.....for 2 days.

So who knows if the incident at her home stemmed from that..also..she DID sustain a head injury from a golf cart accident beginning of the year.

Lets keep her in our prayers and hope it all turns out for the best.

[graciegirl]

In any other local newspaper, this probably would be front page news, even if it was a smaller article.


I find it strange that it was hidden on a nondescript page of nothingness.


I smell a fish; we'll see how it pans out!



Bon,

The Daily Sun has always put notices of "Public Safety" in the local and state section of the paper. They never publish names in situations like this and have a very subdued and conservative journalistic attitude.

The person who was managing editor of The Daily Sun for many years now publishes the online news.

As you can see, her journalistic approach is now different. Some complain about both.

I am glad we have a choice, PLUS we have this very active rumor mill on TOTV.

The Daily Sun was once owned by the developer but the business was sold several years ago. The developer still owns the building and the equipment, and I suppose that he was able to sell it to someone who had similar conservative views, which are the majority views in this town.

[perrjojo]

In any other local newspaper, this probably would be front page news, even if it was a smaller article.

I find it strange that it was hidden on a nondescript page of nothingness.

I don't think it was "hidden". It was posted in the Public Saftey Report where such news is always posted in The Daily Sun. What would the front page article say? A home invasion may or may not have occurred in Duval. The victim was confused and taken to the hospital on unrelated reasons. There need to be facts before a story is printed. I am not second guessing what happened. I don't think it is clear to the police just what actually happened. Hopefully after a full investigation we will know.

[Lauren Sweeny]

Front page vs somewhere in our paper situation.....my take ....7 lightening strikes in TV certainly should be noteworthy enough to be on the front page... Gossip is like the snowball rolling downhill
If information about any " happening" is negative you could have a winning bet that it will not make front page or will rate only a few lines.

[Cedwards38]

Heed all the advice, and get a security system..........if for no other reason than peace of mind.

[Bogie Shooter]

In any other local newspaper, this probably would be front page news, even if it was a smaller article.

I find it strange that it was hidden on a nondescript page of nothingness.

But, apparantely you found the article.

[Shirleevee]

Dirt -- I think you need to read more about about the past history in TV regarding things which have happened to known Democrats such as their cars being keyed and dog crap being thrown in their golf carts. Of course, that isn't all, but it gives you a good idea regarding the mindset of some Republicans here.

In the first quote above, mrich61, like it or not, is telling it like it is.

In addition, your comment back to him regarding praying was unnecessary.

:agree::agree::agree::bigbow:

[Shirleevee]

So who has the best pizza in TV?

.......and Paella?

[graciegirl]

.......and Paella?


There is NO really good, falling down wonderful, yummo, jumping up and down, salivating, drooling, eating until you are stuffed, perfect pizza in The Villages. I am very sad to say this.

And I have shellfish allergy and can't eat paella, so I don't know, But Shirleevee does, because she is a good cook and Italian.

I can't say paella either.

[graciegirl]

Dirt -- I think you need to read more about about the past history in TV regarding things which have happened to known Democrats such as their cars being keyed and dog crap being thrown in their golf carts. Of course, that isn't all, but it gives you a good idea regarding the mindset of some Republicans here.

In the first quote above, mrich61, like it or not, is telling it like it is.

In addition, your comment back to him regarding praying was unnecessary.


I haven't met any that would do anything like that here. I don't go to political meetings either. I imagine they get people all riled up...on BOTH SIDES..

It is not necessary to put down the developer because he is a member of the other party. He IS in business to make money and his business built this lovely place. It was all done with free enterprise and his risking his money time and time again. Not all things you hear are valid. There is much gossip and hearsay. You need to research both sides.

And...as our parents told us. It is wise NOT to publicly discuss religion or politics, it makes for unhappiness and bitter feelings. If I could just remember that.

[Barefoot]

Don't add to the unsubstantiated rumors and hysteria. Give it a few days and the real story will come out. The fact that it took so long for anyone to hear about it speaks volumes.

:agree:

[sunnyatlast]

Dirt -- I think you need to read more about about the past history in TV regarding things which have happened to known Democrats such as their cars being keyed and dog crap being thrown in their golf carts. Of course, that isn't all, but it gives you a good idea regarding the mindset of some Republicans here.

In the first quote above, mrich61, like it or not, is telling it like it is.

In addition, your comment back to him regarding praying was unnecessary.

If a person's car has been keyed, how does anybody know it's because of their favoring a certain party? How does one know that the perpetrator did it because of partisan reasons?!?!?

And if somebody got dog dung thrown in their golf cart, how does anybody know the motive wasn't something else, i.e. cart owner had been seen repeatedly leaving their dog dung by the postal station or on somebody's lawn, and it was sending a message about that?

(Not defending either action for sending a message. Just wonder how state of mind and motives are known and proven!)

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