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BarryRX
08-19-2014, 11:51 PM
Our government is in the process of verifying if the video is authentic. I didn't link to the video because if someone decides they want to watch it, they can easily do a google search. These people are the worst of the worst.

senior citizen
08-20-2014, 05:29 AM
Our government is in the process of verifying if the video is authentic. I didn't link to the video because if someone decides they want to watch it, they can easily do a google search. These people are the worst of the worst.


Thanks for sharing.......after seeing it on the evening news, went to internet & found all of the Youtube videos, plus Aljazeera Arabic online.


Complete article from New York Times newspaper link below.....plus Orlando Sentinel newspaper (Florida).....re journalist from Miami.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/world/middleeast/isis-james-foley-syria-execution.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/world/middleeast/isis-james-foley-syria-execution.html)


NEW YORK TIMES NEWSPAPER on beheading of journalist James Foley who was from New Hampshire


Youtube had the videos on last evening........many of them.
So sad for his family.


These beheadings are nothing new to these barbaric people.
Aljazeera online Arabic version has photos of the beheading of a general. Also a very long list of beheadings all over the Islamic world......it is very very very barbaric & very shocking to say the least. This is what they do.


Last evening on Youtube they showed (after the two speeches of both the victim & the brute murderer) the guy in black stepping behind our journalist from New Hampshire & putting the knife to his front throat..........very gruesome. Americans should see this so they know what we are up against. Later, he was laying on the ground, the head part covered with a cloth.


With the general (Youtube & Aljazeera Arabic online), they put his head by his legs. To see the blood on the ground was fearful & horrendous.........but Americans cannot have their heads in the sand regarding what is happening in the middle east; especially with threats to our homeland.


Why all the secrecy? The guy in black made a direct threat to our president. For all we know, they could very well already have sleeper cells in this country............at universities, in cities, etc., in mosques.


From Orlando Sentinel newspaper..............


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-steven-sotloff-ucf-behead-isis-20140819,0,4620829.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-steven-sotloff-ucf-behead-isis-20140819,0,4620829.story)


Second journalist went to University of Central Florida


The Islamic State insurgent group is threatening to behead a journalist identified as Steven Joel Sotloff, who attended the University of Central Florida as a journalism major from 2002-04.


The group battling for control of Iraq released a gruesome video Tuesday purporting to show American journalist James Foley being beheaded. Another man, identified as Sotloff, also appears in the video. Both Sotloff and Foley disappeared while covering the war in Syria.


Sotloff worked for Time magazine and other news organizations and disappeared in Syria last August. His last tweet on his Twitter page is from Aug. 3, 2013. His Twitter profile says he is a "stand-up philosopher from Miami. Currently in Libya."

Patty55
08-20-2014, 07:21 AM
I won't watch it, I'm disgusted by ISIS's actions. I know that if James Foley was a family member or friend of mine I wouldn't want it on yotube along with music videos and other "entertainment"

I don't know, watching it just seems wrong.

Madelaine Amee
08-20-2014, 08:24 AM
I won't watch it, I'm disgusted by ISIS's actions. I know that if James Foley was a family member or friend of mine I wouldn't want it on yotube along with music videos and other "entertainment"

I don't know, watching it just seems wrong.

As usual Patty, you got it right!

graciegirl
08-20-2014, 08:41 AM
I can't even think about it. It is not something I ever expected to know happened in this world.

It is so awful that my mind can't handle it.

gomoho
08-20-2014, 02:20 PM
They are butchers that need to be stopped before they reach our shores and unleash their hatred on us. They said they will not stop till their flag flies over our White House.

kittygilchrist
08-20-2014, 03:59 PM
A video was sent to me by a US special forces Sgt. currently serving in Japan, of isis executing more people than I can count, by gunfire to the head. Leaving them in ditches or dumping them into water. This is Satan exposed in his essence, unusual in that normally he comes in deceit, lying or disguise.
And we can't figure out what happened to our lovely American culture, degraded by invisible degrees.

Bogie Shooter
08-20-2014, 04:03 PM
Thanks for sharing.......after seeing it on the evening news, went to internet & found all of the Youtube videos, plus Aljazeera Arabic online.


Complete article from New York Times newspaper link below.....plus Orlando Sentinel newspaper (Florida).....re journalist from Miami.


http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/world/middleeast/isis-james-foley-syria-execution.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/20/world/middleeast/isis-james-foley-syria-execution.html)


NEW YORK TIMES NEWSPAPER on beheading of journalist James Foley who was from New Hampshire


Youtube had the videos on last evening........many of them.
So sad for his family.


These beheadings are nothing new to these barbaric people.
Aljazeera online Arabic version has photos of the beheading of a general. Also a very long list of beheadings all over the Islamic world......it is very very very barbaric & very shocking to say the least. This is what they do.


Last evening on Youtube they showed (after the two speeches of both the victim & the brute murderer) the guy in black stepping behind our journalist from New Hampshire & putting the knife to his front throat..........very gruesome. Americans should see this so they know what we are up against. Later, he was laying on the ground, the head part covered with a cloth.


With the general (Youtube & Aljazeera Arabic online), they put his head by his legs. To see the blood on the ground was fearful & horrendous.........but Americans cannot have their heads in the sand regarding what is happening in the middle east; especially with threats to our homeland.


Why all the secrecy? The guy in black made a direct threat to our president. For all we know, they could very well already have sleeper cells in this country............at universities, in cities, etc., in mosques.


From Orlando Sentinel newspaper..............


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-steven-sotloff-ucf-behead-isis-20140819,0,4620829.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-steven-sotloff-ucf-behead-isis-20140819,0,4620829.story)


Second journalist went to University of Central Florida


The Islamic State insurgent group is threatening to behead a journalist identified as Steven Joel Sotloff, who attended the University of Central Florida as a journalism major from 2002-04.


The group battling for control of Iraq released a gruesome video Tuesday purporting to show American journalist James Foley being beheaded. Another man, identified as Sotloff, also appears in the video. Both Sotloff and Foley disappeared while covering the war in Syria.


Sotloff worked for Time magazine and other news organizations and disappeared in Syria last August. His last tweet on his Twitter page is from Aug. 3, 2013. His Twitter profile says he is a "stand-up philosopher from Miami. Currently in Libya."

Were all these gruesome details really necessary??

CFrance
08-20-2014, 04:06 PM
I can't even think about it. It is not something I ever expected to know happened in this world.

It is so awful that my mind can't handle it.
Me too, and I can't even imagine going to you tube and watching that.

CFrance
08-20-2014, 04:09 PM
Were all these gruesome details really necessary??
I agree with you, Bogie. We are all familiar with how to use Google and can do our own searching if we want.

kittygilchrist
08-20-2014, 04:19 PM
This is the reality of the world we live in. I'd like to run away too, but hiding our heads in the sand is hiding our heads in the sand.
Evil is not going away for quite some time. In my view the United States of America has no special place to hide from a practical nor from a spiritual viewpoint. Perhaps two generations ago we could've claimed that position, but no longer.

I can understand not watching to protect oneself, but do be cautious whether ignoring what is becoming the norm in our world is self protective or choosing to remain ignorant and thereby taking no action.

CFrance
08-20-2014, 04:21 PM
This is the reality of the world we live in. I'd like to run away too, but hiding our heads in the sand is hiding our heads in the sand.
Evil is not going away for quite some time. In my view the United States of America has no special place to hide from a practical nor from a spiritual viewpoint. Perhaps two generations ago we could've claimed that position, but no longer.
No, evil is not going to go away, but that doesn't mean we have to, or should, watch it happen. Reading that it happened is enough to keep my head out of the sand. Just my opinion.

kittygilchrist
08-20-2014, 04:50 PM
HORRIBLE: ISIS murders 1500 POWs in a brutal display of violence (NSFW) » The Right Scoop - (http://therightscoop.com/horrible-isis-murders-1500-pows-in-a-brutal-display-of-violence-nsfw/)

Don't watch this horribly brutal video. We are concerned and upset about one American journalist. This is a video of hundreds being slaughtered in a few minutes time. Don't watch it.

Rags123
08-20-2014, 06:15 PM
Trying to be diplomatic here, but WHERE was all of this anger when thousands of children were being killed in the streets of Syria...there was NONE. A thread was begun on here quite sometime ago about the situation in Syria and was basically ignored.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/please-93650/

Not one comment made to that thread.

A number of conversations did ensue outside this thread but all were just politics.

Please also check to determine where ISIS got its beginnng and strength

billethkid
08-20-2014, 06:18 PM
there was a time when we would have not stood by and just be in a reactive mode....a time sorely missed by many of us.

This enemy is so easy to defeat....just go in and mow them down so they become afraid to stick their head out the door. Send in the drones and continue picking them off till they are gone.
ISIS has one very big advantage going for them.....THEY KNOW WE WILL NOT GO ON THE OFFENSIVE to obliterate them.

Rag tag thugs and cowards against some of the mightiest militaries in the world......not in the time sorely missed they would not!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
08-20-2014, 06:24 PM
there was a time when we would have not stood by and just be in a reactive mode....a time sorely missed by many of us.

This enemy is so easy to defeat....just go in and mow them down so they become afraid to stick their head out the door. Send in the drones and continue picking them off till they are gone.
ISIS has one very big advantage going for them.....THEY KNOW WE WILL NOT GO ON THE OFFENSIVE to obliterate them.

Rag tag thugs and cowards against some of the mightiest militaries in the world......not in the time sorely missed they would not!

I don't think that it's quite that simple. When ever they are attacked, they disappear into the general population making it virtually impossible to tell the terrorists from the rest of the citizens.

Rags123
08-20-2014, 06:25 PM
We are being mocked. I am surprised nobody mentioned the ISIS poster seen on tv in Ferguson.

"‘Chilling’ Sign Seen Behind CNN’s Jake Tapper During Ferguson Protest"

‘Chilling’ Sign Seen Behind CNN’s Jake Tapper During Ferguson Protests | Video | TheBlaze.com (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/08/19/chilling-sign-seen-behind-cnns-jake-tapper-during-ferguson-protests/)

And please no chatter about the source....they are still shots from CNN. And as we have seen recently, the news media is making all of our decisions now thus I have yet to see this even mentioned on main stream media !

Rags123
08-20-2014, 06:27 PM
I don't think that it's quite that simple. When ever they are attacked, they disappear into the general population making it virtually impossible to tell the terrorists from the rest of the citizens.

All conjecture, but wonder if Mr Foley would be alive to day if we had meant what we said about the red line about a year ago ?

All conjecture, but wonder if ISIS would be this strong or rich if we had meant what we said about the red line about a year ago?

Just asking..

kittygilchrist
08-20-2014, 07:05 PM
Trying to be diplomatic here, but WHERE was all of this anger when thousands of children were being killed in the streets of Syria...there was NONE. A thread was begun on here quite sometime ago about the situation in Syria and was basically ignored.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/please-93650/

Not one comment made to that thread.

A number of conversations did ensue outside this thread but all were just politics.

Please also check to determine where ISIS got its beginnng and strength
Isis origin? Tell, please.

Rags123
08-20-2014, 07:24 PM
Isis origin? Tell, please.


Outreach of Alqueda in Iraq....strength and organization came....

Jan 2014

"ISIS originated as an al-Qaeda offshoot in Iraq. Composed of fundamentalist Sunni Muslims, the group targeted the Iraqi government and American forces in Iraq, as well as Shia Muslims and Christians (both of whom it considers heretics) and killed civilians of all faiths in indiscriminate attacks. It expanded into Syria when that country's uprising turned into a war between President Bashar Assad (who is backed by Iran's Shia leadership) and the rebels he had tried to crush. One of the best-equipped and funded militias on the ground—although its sources of cash are murky—ISIS took control of the eastern rebel-held city of Raqqa in 2012 and expanded along the border with Turkey. Foreign fighters flocked to Syria to join it. "-

See more at: The Economist explains: What ISIS, an al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria, really wants | The Economist (http://www.economist.com/blogs/economist-explains/2014/01/economist-explains-12#sthash.jha9x9jm.dpuf)



The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isis) is so hardline that it was disavowed by al-Qaida's leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri.

Led by an Iraqi called Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Isis was originally an al-Qaida group in Iraq, the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI). As the Syrian civil war intensified, its involvement in the conflict was indirect at first. Abu Muhammad al-Joulani, an ISI member, established Jabhat al-Jabhat al-Nusra in mid-2011, which became the main jihadi group in the Syrian war. Joulani received support and funding from ISI and Baghdadi.


Who are Isis? A terror group too extreme even for al-Qaida | World news | theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/11/isis-too-extreme-al-qaida-terror-jihadi)

Do you think there is at least a chance had we enforced our red line that Mr Foley might be alive ? At least a chance......they were born where we left and/or did nothing.

Rags123
08-20-2014, 07:35 PM
And will add this from 2013 I had misplaced this and just located

"Al-Qaeda in Syria: A Closer Look at ISIS (Part I) "

"In 2012, however, AQI -- which renamed itself the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) after Zarqawi was killed by a U.S. strike in 2006 -- began to bounce back. One of the factors that led to this resurgence was the Syrian uprising. In late summer 2011, ISI leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi dispatched operatives to Syria to set up a new jihadist organization. Among them was Abu Muhammad al-Jawlani, the leader of what would become JN, which officially announced itself in late January 2012. By November 2012, Jawlani had built JN into one of the opposition's best fighting forces, and locals viewed its members as fair arbiters when dealing with corruption and social services."

Al-Qaeda in Syria: A Closer Look at ISIS (Part I) - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy (http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/al-qaeda-in-syria-a-closer-look-at-isis-part-i)

Ignoring Syria as we did enabled this group.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
08-20-2014, 09:39 PM
So does anyone have an opinion on what if any, our response should be to this? The president is talking tough and saying that we will not stop until these people are brought to justice. He also said that this "cancer" must be eradicated from the earth.

Assuming you agree, how should we go about accomplishing this?

billethkid
08-20-2014, 10:54 PM
These thug killers/terrorists do exactly what they say.
We do not.
Our position on almost any issue of significance has degenerated to the notion that if it was talked about it was addressed.
No follow up.
No commitment.
No threat to anybody....anymore........
So yes if we would have done we we said we were going to do a year ago, he and thousands more would be alive today.

ISIS is now emboldened, un afraid and they will kill some of us here in the USA.

kittygilchrist
08-21-2014, 03:40 AM
And will add this from 2013 I had misplaced this and just located

"Al-Qaeda in Syria: A Closer Look at ISIS (Part I) "

"In 2012, however, AQI -- which renamed itself the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) after Zarqawi was killed by a U.S. strike in 2006 -- began to bounce back. One of the factors that led to this resurgence was the Syrian uprising. In late summer 2011, ISI leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi dispatched operatives to Syria to set up a new jihadist organization. Among them was Abu Muhammad al-Jawlani, the leader of what would become JN, which officially announced itself in late January 2012. By November 2012, Jawlani had built JN into one of the opposition's best fighting forces, and locals viewed its members as fair arbiters when dealing with corruption and social services."

Al-Qaeda in Syria: A Closer Look at ISIS (Part I) - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy (http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/al-qaeda-in-syria-a-closer-look-at-isis-part-i)

Ignoring Syria as we did enabled this group.
I agree with you about Syria. I believe Putin is providing chem warfare assistance..

kittygilchrist
08-21-2014, 03:51 AM
No, evil is not going to go away, but that doesn't mean we have to, or should, watch it happen. Reading that it happened is enough to keep my head out of the sand. Just my opinion.

I don't intend to watch it either, CF, and you don't need to. I keep hearing on the news that "Americans are tired of war" which I interpret to mean we just want problems to go away so we can keep having fun.

Nation needs to be shaken awake...

senior citizen
08-21-2014, 05:06 AM
They are butchers that need to be stopped before they reach our shores and unleash their hatred on us. They said they will not stop till their flag flies over our White House.


Right on.

senior citizen
08-21-2014, 05:13 AM
And will add this from 2013 I had misplaced this and just located

"Al-Qaeda in Syria: A Closer Look at ISIS (Part I) "

"In 2012, however, AQI -- which renamed itself the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) after Zarqawi was killed by a U.S. strike in 2006 -- began to bounce back. One of the factors that led to this resurgence was the Syrian uprising. In late summer 2011, ISI leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi dispatched operatives to Syria to set up a new jihadist organization. Among them was Abu Muhammad al-Jawlani, the leader of what would become JN, which officially announced itself in late January 2012. By November 2012, Jawlani had built JN into one of the opposition's best fighting forces, and locals viewed its members as fair arbiters when dealing with corruption and social services."

Al-Qaeda in Syria: A Closer Look at ISIS (Part I) - The Washington Institute for Near East Policy (http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/al-qaeda-in-syria-a-closer-look-at-isis-part-i)

Ignoring Syria as we did enabled this group.


Yes, ignoring Syria, did enable this group.

Ignorance is bliss..........or is it???

I agree that we should have paid more attention to Syria's problems with ISIS.

I've never ever been a "hawk".......have always been more of a pacifist by nature.

However, ISIS causes alarm in my soul.......I just have a supremely bad feeling about it & it's ability to gain such momentum so quickly. Supposedly, even Alkaeda is afraid of them.

My purpose for posting the links to the New York Times Newspaper article as well as the Orlando Sentinel article was that the first journalist was from our neighboring state of New Hampshire.........the second one, presumably still alive, went to college in central Florida; a resident of Miami.

Everyone can make their own decision on whether to "look" or "not look"........however, in this case, "ignorance is not bliss". I never ever ever thought I would be saying that I support our air strikes, even if collateral damage occurs, however, someone has to stop these nuts who are living in the DARK AGES.

Again, ignorance is not bliss.........

Case in point.......as seen in recent WWII documentary.....

After our U.S. G.I.'s discovered the horrors of the Nazi concentration camps at the end of WWII, the local neighboring villagers claimed to NOT HAVE KNOWLEDGE of what had been transpiring..............what? See link below. Also, if I recall, we made them transport & bury the dead...........we just most recently saw a documentary of it...........not a pretty sight, to say the least.

We cannot let insane people rule our world......

My heart goes out to Foley's father & mother..........who find comfort in believing he is in heaven at peace............this morning we heard that ISIS had emailed a ransom request to the family, but when they begged for mercy & some more "time" ISIS never responded back...............God forbid that they are not already in our country as sleeper cells............Great Britain is alarmed as well.

If people keep silent, history is bound to repeat itself...........I prefer to know & see what is happening, even if it is shocking.

With all of the violence on cable t.v. / movies at the cinema , etc. nowadays.......why turn puritan at barbaric acts harking back to the dark ages?

Perhaps America needs to be shocked out of its complacency........lest we be the ones suffering through the next regime of total "nuts".........barbarians called ISIS.

We all live such complacent comfortable luxurious lives, free to go where we choose at whatever time we choose........to travel in safety & peace across this great country of ours............not escaping via a treacherous climb over mountains from total insanity or witnessing young men/old men put into ditches to be slaughtered. This is not the doings of civilized people..........

Knowledge is power.........lest it happen again, perhaps this time to US.

http://phdast7.hubpages.com/hub/Waht-Did-Most-Germans-Know-About-the-Nazi-Concentration-Camp-System-Part-II

What the average German knew about the concentration camps...........

Thomas Hale wrote, "disease – typhus, dysentery, and tuberculosis – was universal. The crematory had been operating around the clock….the stench of death and of piles of human excrement was overpowering, yet the townspeople nearby said they knew nothing of the camp.

Staff Sergeant Malachowsky, at Nordhausen with the 329th Medical Battalion, recalled that "the smell covered the entire countryside…for miles around….when we asked these people in the town…how they could permit such a thing, they said they did not know there was a camp like that next to them."

Frequently GIs mention the proximity of camps to villages, towns, and cities and emphasize that people living nearby would have known something about the camps. PFC Dalton, with the 89th Infantry Division was quite emphatic. "I do not believe anyone could live that close to such a place and not know what was going on."

senior citizen
08-21-2014, 05:23 AM
HORRIBLE: ISIS murders 1500 POWs in a brutal display of violence (NSFW) » The Right Scoop - (http://therightscoop.com/horrible-isis-murders-1500-pows-in-a-brutal-display-of-violence-nsfw/)

Don't watch this horribly brutal video. We are concerned and upset about one American journalist. This is a video of hundreds being slaughtered in a few minutes time. Don't watch it.




I watched it plus sent it to my husband's computer.......plus that of our adult children & all of our friends who are also concerned re the meteoric rise of these total barbarians.......

Thanks Kitty....

senior citizen
08-21-2014, 05:31 AM
I don't intend to watch it either, CF, and you don't need to. I keep hearing on the news that "Americans are tired of war" which I interpret to mean we just want problems to go away so we can keep having fun.

Nation needs to be shaken awake...


The youtubes were taken down soon after they were put up......
however, those of us who saw it........

It simply consisted of the black garbed terrorist standing next to Foley, while giving his long diatribe, then stepping BEHIND FOLEY......putting the short knife to the front of his throat. The next scene was the journalist laying on the ground. The head part was covered with a brown cloth. Foley was also allowed to give a short goodbye to his parents......he was very very brave as his mom has said. Those of us who have adult children who fly & travel all over the world, the same children who were taught to love everyone worldwide.......the same children who accepted diversity, who volunteered to help struggling nations via good deeds.....now have to pause & wonder "what went wrong" as our world seems to have come under the influence of madmen.....& I do not mean Madison Avenue Advertising firms.........but barbarians from the dark ages, bent on destroying all of us.

The "General's execution" on Aljazeera only showed his head placed between his legs (he was in uniform) while his torso was tilted toward the very bloody spot where his head came off. My husband saw the execution , which I did not see. They made him bend over & cut from the back of the neck...........whereas with Foley, the journalist from N.H., the terrorist cut with the small knife to the throat. Just the thought of it is excruciating to comprehend. But, knowledge is power.

graciegirl
08-21-2014, 06:57 AM
http://portal.aolcdn.com/i.huffpost.com/gen/1977094/thumbs/768x504xa-FOLEY-768x504.jpg.pagespeed.ic.bV2hKOADk3.jpg (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/20/james-foley-globalpost-isis-threat_n_5695938.html)AP
News (http://www.aol.com/news/) The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/) ISIS sent email to Foley's family prior to slaying (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/20/james-foley-globalpost-isis-threat_n_5695938.html)

The CEO of GlobalPost, where Foley worked, said ISIS had been in contact, typically to make demands, but that last

Steve & Deanna
08-21-2014, 07:28 AM
I would like to see and hear outrage coming from the peaceful Muslim communities.

Rags123
08-21-2014, 07:48 AM
I would like to see and hear outrage coming from the peaceful Muslim communities.


Well, I would like to see our country maintain some concern over this kind of thing.

We express our shock and dismay, but we got over Daniel Pearl...we don't even talk about the "heads on sticks" displayed in Syria this past month

"Al-Qaeda Behead 10 Prisoners & Mount Their Heads On Spikes In Syria"

Al-Qaeda Behead 10 Prisoners & Mount Their Heads On Spikes In Syria (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/23/al-qaeda-behead-10-prisoners-mount-head-spikes-syria_n_4650442.html)

There are stories of beheading children and placing their heads on spikes throughout Syria, but I wont bore you with the details. These stories are difficult to see or hear about in our country, but they are true....pics, stories and eyewitness account available.

Point is..I wish WE would get upset.......this is not new....and it is not going to stop.

This is not something that should take over our life, but to just toss this stuff aside as this country has been doing is wrong in my opinion....it should be part of our policy to address this.

Villages PL
08-21-2014, 11:13 AM
No one should worry about seeing the video of the beheading because it has been deleted from the internet. I heard this was in progress last night while listening to the radio. I just did some searches to see if it was actually done and I could not find any video of it. Although, there are about 4 or 5 pictures leading up to, but not including, the actual beheading.

Am I wrong about this? I don't think so.

kittygilchrist
08-21-2014, 03:30 PM
Well, I would like to see our country maintain some concern over this kind of thing.

We express our shock and dismay, but we got over Daniel Pearl...we don't even talk about the "heads on sticks" displayed in Syria this past month

"Al-Qaeda Behead 10 Prisoners & Mount Their Heads On Spikes In Syria"

Al-Qaeda Behead 10 Prisoners & Mount Their Heads On Spikes In Syria (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/23/al-qaeda-behead-10-prisoners-mount-head-spikes-syria_n_4650442.html)

There are stories of beheading children and placing their heads on spikes throughout Syria, but I wont bore you with the details. These stories are difficult to see or hear about in our country, but they are true....pics, stories and eyewitness account available.

Point is..I wish WE would get upset.......this is not new....and it is not going to stop.

This is not something that should take over our life, but to just toss this stuff aside as this country has been doing is wrong in my opinion....it should be part of our policy to address this.

Rags, I hope you saw the Press conference today from the Pentagon with Hegel and Dempsey. Both of them "get it" with regard to the international threat from Isis. It gave me some hope that not everyone in Washington is asleep at the wheel.

Dempsey called the agenda of Isis apocalyptic, end of days, and religious. Hagel seemed shocked to be asked if they were comparable to 911 terrorists, and listed the many ways Isis exceeds any previous terrorist threat to this country as well as there being an immediate threat to Europe.

As I understand it, their goal is to take over many of the currently Muslim nations as well as Israel and to destroy anyone who disagrees with their ideology.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, anybody who feels like it can get a hero's welcome walking across our border.... Let's do a round of golf.

Walt.
08-21-2014, 04:25 PM
Rags, I hope you saw the Press conference today from the Pentagon with Hegel and Dempsey. Both of them "get it" with regard to the international threat from Isis. It gave me some hope that not everyone in Washington is asleep at the wheel.

Dempsey called the agenda of Isis apocalyptic, end of days, and religious. Hagel seemed shocked to be asked if they were comparable to 911 terrorists, and listed the many ways Isis exceeds any previous terrorist threat to this country well as there being an immediate threat to Europe...


Nothing to worry about. I think this situation will be settled shortly. I understand that we have prepared TWO red lines. As Isis is reeling from the red lines we are preparing no less than 4 progressively harsh tweets to be delivered within a week. If there's anything left of Isis they will then be subjected to The Ice Bucket Challenge.

TexaninVA
08-21-2014, 04:36 PM
Our government is in the process of verifying if the video is authentic. I didn't link to the video because if someone decides they want to watch it, they can easily do a google search. These people are the worst of the worst.

Everyone is horrified etc but, in the best of American traditions, we will not actually do anything until ISIS strikes us here at home--which they are guaranteed to do by the way. Right now, our ostrich / head in the sand policy lets us pretend we're doing something when we're not really solving the problem.

Ultimately, US ground troops will have to go back to Iraq and eliminate (ie a nice word for saying "kill") ISIS root and branch. The Rules of Engagement will also have to be drastically overhauled to actually let us win. When the enemy is terrified of American response, they will stop. Right now, except for the occassiainol air strike, I think ISIS is amused by the impotence of America.

Too bad we didn't keep the 20,000 troops behind ... this all would have been avoided.

Rags123
08-21-2014, 05:50 PM
Rags, I hope you saw the Press conference today from the Pentagon with Hegel and Dempsey. Both of them "get it" with regard to the international threat from Isis. It gave me some hope that not everyone in Washington is asleep at the wheel.

Dempsey called the agenda of Isis apocalyptic, end of days, and religious. Hagel seemed shocked to be asked if they were comparable to 911 terrorists, and listed the many ways Isis exceeds any previous terrorist threat to this country well as there being an immediate threat to Europe.

As I understand it, their goal is to take over many of the currently Muslim nations as well as Israel and to destroy anyone who disagrees with their ideology.

Meanwhile back at the ranch, anybody who feels like it can get a hero's welcome walking across our border.... Let's do a round of golf.

I am sorry for being so caustic and aggressive last evening and will cool it.

My problem was posters acting as if this was not a known factor, albeit called a junior varsity. Acting as if they are hearing this for the first time..it just frustrated me, but the media, et al do not like to make waves.

I do not think this is reason to become paranoid, but because a fraction who has the microphone keeps ignoring things or downplaying them to serve their purpose does not make it so. My intent is not political in anyway, and on the assumption that many posters on here have children and grandchildren, they should be very aware of this group, the entire middle east, and our policy toward it. NO before it is said...we cannot fight everyones battles, but this world is extremely small compared to when we were younger...it is faster and more deadly.

When I see our choosing open borders while folks in the mid east tell you that they are going to come and bomb you, and the laissez faire attitude about all of those issues, it not only concerns me....it scares me.

People who behead children and put their heads on sticks to display.....they are not going to worry about any of us on any scale and will do whatever it takes to kill.

But you are right....surely not serious enough to interrupt our golf game....there are many more serious things for us to worry about like......

Thanks for your post....it is comforting to know that some are paying attention to what is going on and not going on.

TexaninVA
08-21-2014, 06:56 PM
Nothing to worry about. I think this situation will be settled shortly. I understand that we have prepared TWO red lines. As Isis is reeling from the red lines we are preparing no less than 4 progressively harsh tweets to be delivered within a week. If there's anything left of Isis they will then be subjected to The Ice Bucket Challenge.

Good grief ... please anything but the tweets!! That is so fierce I fear it may cause ISIS to stain their shorts or something. How about if we just issue stern (I mean REALLY stern) diplomatic protest via Iran or someone?

TexaninVA
08-21-2014, 10:38 PM
I would like to see and hear outrage coming from the peaceful Muslim communities.

My advice is ... don't hold your breath. I've been waiting for that since 9/11 and, with a few courageous exceptions, the silence is both continual and deafening.

We should not kid ourselves ... there is a high percentage (IMHO maybe 10-20% at least??) that are silently rooting for the Caliphate to succeed. This desire goes back centuries and settles a lot of old scores dating back to the 15th century when they were kicked out of Spain etc.

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08-22-2014, 06:56 AM
The topic is ISIS and the death of James Foley.

Please address the topic and avoid political innuendos and snipes or the thread will be closed.

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karostay
08-22-2014, 07:18 AM
We should arm each country equally in the Middle East with 1/2 dozen short range rockets armed with nuclear war heads
Pull out troops out sit back watch the show

wendyquat
08-22-2014, 09:02 AM
We should arm each country equally in the Middle East with 1/2 dozen short range rockets armed with nuclear war heads
Pull out troops out sit back watch the show

Wow, best solution yet! Me fears they would all aim those nukes our way!

Madelaine Amee
08-22-2014, 09:30 AM
Did anyone else see or hear this small piece of reporting last evening? Evidently Isis are selling oil for $25 a barrel. This, in itself, could create some interesting scenarios in the middle east. If they are flooding the market with cheap oil what do you think the rest of the oil producers are going to do;; i.e. OPEC - are they likely to allow these people to saturate the market with cheap fuel while they are waiting for their $100 a barrel? Maybe this will cause the rest of the Arab nations to start thinking sanely and stop thinking it's a Western problem. This group is out to bring down the whole world, not just us. It was also reported that Saudi Arabia have been rounding up and sentencing large numbers of terrorists (very quietly) over the last few months or so, they are obviously well aware of this problem on their door step.

BUT, unfortunately, I do think you will see us go into Syria where they got their start!

karostay
08-22-2014, 06:12 PM
Wow, best solution yet! Me fears they would all aim those nukes our way!
Like I said short range