School Kids Being Picked up in Silver Lake?

[Martysmom]

I have noticed since school started how many kids there are living in Silver Lake! At first I thought it was grandparents babysitting and the bus picking them up but this morning I counted 5 golf carts and 3 cars sitting at the Jeffery Gate entrance waiting for the school bus and 4 of these golf carts were being driven by either the young mothers or the fathers. Do these people live in Silver Lake with these kids and if so, how do they get away with it? I counted 9 kids waiting for the bus and some were in cars and vans...right at the Jeffrey gate entrance.

[redwitch]

They might be staying with family until they find housing of their own. Kids can stay for thirty days per year. Neighbors might be looking the other way and not reporting the kids living there. It may be that the parents drop the kids off there on the way to work and don't live in TV at all. Only way to know for sure is to ask and hope for honest answers. Unless reported, nothing will be done.

[OBXNana]

I understood children are eligible to attend the charter school if one or both of their parents work directly for The Villages or a direct subcontractor, or if a parent works for a business located within The Village. I don't think it would necessarily mean they resided in The Villages. This is how the educational system was explained to us while on the preview.

We would be the legal guardians of our 2 grandsons if something were to happen to both parents. We asked about the educational system and also understood living in the family section of The Villages does not guarantee the children would attend the schools. Our preview was a year ago and this may have changed or I may have misunderstood.

[Bogie Shooter]

I understood children are eligible to attend the charter school if one or both of their parents work directly for The Villages or a direct subcontractor, or if a parent works for a business located within The Village. I don't think it would necessarily mean they resided in The Villages. This is how the educational system was explained to us while on the preview.

We would be the legal guardians of our 2 grandsons if something were to happen to both parents. We asked about the educational system and also understood living in the family section of The Villages does not guarantee the children would attend the schools. Our preview was a year ago and this may have changed or I may have misunderstood.

Silver Lake is not a family section of TV.

[Topspinmo]

Not familar with that address where the bus is stopping, But maybe bigger question would be why is school bus stopping in silver Lake addition if that address or corner signs are in village of silver lake? During my search for homes I found three villages that children are allowed and Silver Lake wasn't one of them. Maybe the 55 and over rules are being bent or not enforced in the Historic side?

[wholman66]

Until those who live there complain, nothing will be done. Home owners are being allowed to rent to anyone they want, and are disregarding the rules.

[t fields]

I'm complaining !!!! This is not. What I signed up for, we moved here for no children, please stop. This, and go back to retired adults , and be done with!!!!

[jbdlfan]

There are several children that live or have lived here that I personally know of. I've had them as students many times. I was poo-pooed when I said it before.

[Bogie Shooter]

I'm complaining !!!! This is not. What I signed up for, we moved here for no children, please stop. This, and go back to retired adults , and be done with!!!!

Here is where you complain. Asking to please stop, on TOTV, is like blowing smoke in the air.

Community Standards
Phone: 352-751-3912
Fax: 352-751-6707

[jbdlfan]

I'm complaining !!!! This is not. What I signed up for, we moved here for no children, please stop. This, and go back to retired adults , and be done with!!!!

Just curious, what is your definition of retired? If someone has a job, even part-time, will you let them live here? Pretty sure you would have a bunch of empty houses.....

[sunnyatlast]

There are several children that live or have lived here that I personally know of. I've had them as students many times. I was poo-pooed when I said it before.

Do you teach at the TV Charter Schools, or in the Lady Lake public schools?

I would figure some landlords are renting to young parents with kids.

Although "rules are rules", we didn't choose to buy here in order to have no kids around. That as a primary reason for choosing TV seems awfully isolated to me.

I'd also figure that maybe the kids are being dropped off at an adult home for before- and after-school supervision till the working parent starts/finishes work nearby.

[Martysmom]

Do you teach at the TV Charter Schools, or in the Lady Lake public schools?

I would figure some landlords are renting to young parents with kids.

Although "rules are rules", we didn't choose to buy here in order to have no kids around. That as a primary reason for choosing TV seems awfully isolated to me.

I'd also figure that maybe the kids are being dropped off at an adult home for before- and after-school supervision till the working parent starts/finishes work nearby.

I thought these kids were being dropped off by working parents but as I said, there are young mothers in their bathrobes sitting in golf carts, drinking coffee and waiting for the school bus at Jeffery gate. They clearly are living in Silver Lake somewhere. My neighbor told me tonight he rolled down his window one morning and asked 3 of these women where they were living. They all told him it was none of his business. Clearly they are flying under the radar.

[DougB]

I thought these kids were being dropped off by working parents but as I said, there are young mothers in their bathrobes sitting in golf carts, drinking coffee and waiting for the school bus at Jeffery gate. They clearly are living in Silver Lake somewhere. My neighbor told me tonight he rolled down his window one morning and asked 3 of these women where they were living. They all told him it was none of his business. Clearly they are flying under the radar.

I am not flying under the radar, but if someone rolled down their window and asked me where I lived I would tell them it's none of their business also.

[sunnyatlast]

I am not flying under the radar, but if someone rolled down their window and asked me where I lived I would tell them it's none of their business also.

Well maybe those who see the moms in bathrobes on the cart ought to call Community Watch who can follow them home.

[RedChariot]

I have noticed since school started how many kids there are living in Silver Lake! At first I thought it was grandparents babysitting and the bus picking them up but this morning I counted 5 golf carts and 3 cars sitting at the Jeffery Gate entrance waiting for the school bus and 4 of these golf carts were being driven by either the young mothers or the fathers. Do these people live in Silver Lake with these kids and if so, how do they get away with it? I counted 9 kids waiting for the bus and some were in cars and vans...right at the Jeffrey gate entrance.

I think this place has gotten so very large, all control and adherence to rules has been lost. Owners renting to young families you say? Who is to stop them? As someone else said, I did not buy here to live with school kids as my neighbor. There should be better reinforcement of the rules we all signed in agreement at closing. No one is talking Big Brother but come on.

[MoeVonB61]

The "Developer" does not care about the "prehistoric" section. I know of (3) people who live in the prehistoric / historic section that have kids living with them. One is an Autistic child but it's not the new section and only the new section (bonds to be paid by the purchaser) matters.....just look at how poor the lots are maintained in the prehistoric section also.

[Topspinmo]

Actually I don't think resales or for rents can be stopped IMO. You go to zillow or realstate.com and it list local schools (which not village charter school) in the area and mentions nothing about being over 55 only. If so why wouldn't the information be noticable in the listings for resales?

[Indydealmaker]

Until someone has indisputable proof that there are residents in The Villages with kids under the age of 19, I am going to view these "eyewitness" reports as balderdash. With cranky old farts all too willing and eager to report "lawn ornaments", I find it unlikely that there are many families with children living here.

We have lots of posters on here who persist in claiming that there are villages, as a part of The Villages, that allow families. That is just not true. ALL of The Villages is age restricted.

As far as rentals go, I am sure that statistically residents under the age of 55 are being monitored because if The Villages residents 55+ drops below 80% of the total, The Villages will lose its federal designation as an age-restricted community. All sorts of bad things happen then. Not likely.

Until that threshold is reached, it is legal for 19-year old kids to buy even a new home here.

[TVMayor]

No way, those kids got to be from Stonecrest.

[onslowe]

I didn't know, and I do not think that resales and/or rentals are outside the scope of the rules here. I thought these were covenants that ran with the land.

[VT2TV]

Until someone has indisputable proof that there are residents in The Villages with kids under the age of 19, I am going to view these "eyewitness" reports as balderdash. With cranky old farts all too willing and eager to report "lawn ornaments", I find it unlikely that there are many families with children living here.

We have lots of posters on here who persist in claiming that there are villages, as a part of The Villages, that allow families. That is just not true. ALL of The Villages is age restricted.

As far as rentals go, I am sure that statistically residents under the age of 55 are being monitored because if The Villages residents 55+ drops below 80% of the total, The Villages will lose its federal designation as an age-restricted community. All sorts of bad things happen then. Not likely.

Until that threshold is reached, it is legal for 19-year old kids to buy even a new home here.


I certainly hope everyone will call the Community Standards and find out if it is true.


I have never checked it out, but have heard that there are 2 or 3 Villages in TV that do allow children and/or families. I have heard that from many sources. I would like to know if that is not true. I also heard someone say, either on here or on the online newspaper, that a 55+ community can vote if they want people living in it that are under 55. (without loosing any benefits of the 55+ communities) I seriously doubt that is true, but wish that it was. Has anyone heard that before? Hate to cause confusion, but would like to know if these 2 things are fact, or just fiction.

[TVMayor]

I certainly hope everyone will call the Community Standards and find out if it is true.


I have never checked it out, but have heard that there are 2 or 3 Villages in TV that do allow children and/or families. I have heard that from many sources. I would like to know if that is not true. I also heard someone say, either on here or on the online newspaper, that a 55+ community can vote if they want people living in it that are under 55. (without loosing any benefits of the 55+ communities) I seriously doubt that is true, but wish that it was. Has anyone heard that before? Hate to cause confusion, but would like to know if these 2 things are fact, or just fiction.
What benefits do 55+ communities have that could be lost?

[VT2TV]

I have no idea, that's just what I was told, and why I am asking if anyone has heard if it is true. Not saying I believed it, but wanted to check.

[redwitch]

There are three "villages" that are open to children. The only thing they have in common with The Villages are the golf cart paths. That is, their communities are golf cart accessible and they have access to our golf cart paths. They do not have access to any recreational facilities and they do not pay any amenity fees for TV. These villages were built for employees of the developer, its subsidiaries and contractors. However, they are open for purchase by anyone.

A friend of mine purchased a home in Buffalo Ridge (I believe that is the name of the development -- near Crispers) for her grandson and two great-grandchildren. The greats are not eligible for the Charter Schools unless the grandson gets a job within TV. They do have the in-county guest passes that allow them to use TV facilities so long as my friend accompanies them (the same as anyone who has qualified relatives living in the Tri-County Area).

As to the voting issue, have no clue -- first I have heard about it.

As to renters, a homeowner can rent to anyone so long as everyone living in the house is over 19. If you suspect someone under age is living in TV for more than 30 days, you can report them and TV will see that they move. They make no exceptions, regardless of circumstances.

[graciegirl]

There are three "villages" that are open to children. The only thing they have in common with The Villages are the golf cart paths. That is, their communities are golf cart accessible and they have access to our golf cart paths. They do not have access to any recreational facilities and they do not pay any amenity fees for TV. These villages were built for employees of the developer, its subsidiaries and contractors. However, they are open for purchase by anyone.

A friend of mine purchased a home in Buffalo Ridge (I believe that is the name of the development -- near Crispers) for her grandson and two great-grandchildren. The greats are not eligible for the Charter Schools unless the grandson gets a job within TV. They do have the in-county guest passes that allow them to use TV facilities so long as my friend accompanies them (the same as anyone who has qualified relatives living in the Tri-County Area).

As to the voting issue, have no clue -- first I have heard about it.

As to renters, a homeowner can rent to anyone so long as everyone living in the house is over 19. If you suspect someone under age is living in TV for more than 30 days, you can report them and TV will see that they move. They make no exceptions, regardless of circumstances.


All of what Red said is true.

[dirtbanker]

I certainly hope everyone will call the Community Standards and find out if it is true.

At the least you would be informing them that others have noticed what Community Standards probably already knew...Surely they would be aware that a school bus is picking up children and shuttling those children to their charter school.

Please let us know how the conversation goes...


What benefits do 55+ communities have that could be lost?

That is a really good question. There must be some financial benefit in meeting HUDs requirements for "Housing intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older"? LIHTC and LURA programs award tax credits that can be sold and the qualifications are 80% occupancy of over 55 along with the advertising of "over 55 community".

I suppose 20% of the residents could have children and they would still qualify?? But that would bring in the argument (possibly lawsuit) over why that resident can have children under the age of 19 living with them and another can only have them visit for 30 days...

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Not familar with that address where the bus is stopping, But maybe bigger question would be why is school bus stopping in silver Lake addition if that address or corner signs are in village of silver lake? During my search for homes I found three villages that children are allowed and Silver Lake wasn't one of them. Maybe the 55 and over rules are being bent or not enforced in the Historic side?

The bus is stopping on Griffin Road, just outside the Jeffrey Gate, which is not in Silver Lake, but just outside of it.

[Bogie Shooter]

Well maybe those who see the moms in bathrobes on the cart ought to call Community Watch who can follow them home.

Not Community Watchs' job.......................

[Bogie Shooter]

The "Developer" does not care about the "prehistoric" section. I know of (3) people who live in the prehistoric / historic section that have kids living with them. One is an Autistic child but it's not the new section and only the new section (bonds to be paid by the purchaser) matters.....just look at how poor the lots are maintained in the prehistoric section also.

Doesn't care? Re-purchase of 40 homes to be rebuilt by the Developer. Rebuilding of the golf course & country club.
Maintainence of lots is the homeowners's responsibility.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

At the least you would be informing them that others have noticed what they probably already knew...Surely they would be aware that a school bus is picking up children and shuttling those children to their charter school.

Please let us know how the conversation goes...




That is a really good question. There must be some financial benefit in meeting HUDs requirements for "Housing intended and operated for occupancy by persons 55 years of age or older"? LIHTC and LURA programs award tax credits that can be sold and the qualifications are 80% occupancy of over 55 along with the advertising of "over 55 community".

I suppose 20% of the residents could have children and they would still qualify?? But that would bring in the argument (possibly lawsuit) over why that resident can have children under the age of 19 living with them and another can only have them visit for 30 days...

My understanding is that 80% of the homes must be occupied by at least one person over the age of 55.

I think that in addition to what you mentioned this condition must be met in order to circumvent age discrimination laws. I'm not sure, but I think that this is how they can have a rule against people under the age of 19 living here.

If you think about it only about 20% of the people living here have to be over 55. You could have one person over 55 and three people under 55 living in 80% of the homes. The rest of the homes could have four people under 55 living in them.

[Bogie Shooter]

The bus is stopping on Griffin Road, just outside the Jeffrey Gate, which is not in Silver Lake, but just outside of it.

Aha! A clue that all this really is ....................................balderdash!

[graciegirl]

What benefits do 55+ communities have that could be lost?


We would have a bunch of kids living here?

[graciegirl]

originally posted by crich;The "Developer" does not care about the "prehistoric" section. I know of (3) people who live in the prehistoric / historic section that have kids living with them. One is an Autistic child but it's not the new section and only the new section (bonds to be paid by the purchaser) matters.....just look at how poor the lots are maintained in the prehistoric section also.

originally posted by Bogie Shooter
Doesn't care? Re-purchase of 40 homes to be rebuilt by the Developer. Rebuilding of the golf course & country club.
Maintainence of lots is the homeowners's responsibility.
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[graciegirl]

If children are living there then report them. It is anonymous to do so. I wish we didn't have to do things like that but it is the rule and a deed restriction.

[mrsanborn]

Why didn't anyone get this excited when the front page of The Daily Sun showed the foreign exchange students arriving who are staying with host families in the Villages?

[graciegirl]

Why didn't anyone get this excited when the front page of The Daily Sun showed the foreign exchange students arriving who are staying with host families in the Villages?

I think it is for one month.

[TVMayor]

Why didn't anyone get this excited when the front page of The Daily Sun showed the foreign exchange students arriving who are staying with host families in the Villages?
I got excited education is a wonderful thing. In my life time I have never spoke out nor have I vote against a tax increase that was for education.

[Martysmom]

We drove out the Jeffery gate this morning about 8:05 and saw 2 little kids, maybe 2nd grade age, sitting in a golf cart with their father. Dad was about 30-35 years old. So, if they don't live in Silver Lake and are just being picked up at that gate, where are they coming from in the golf cart?

[Ruthtomnorma3]

Tomorrow when you see them ...give a smile to the DAD and just ask...in a kind nice way. Then post your answer here....for all to know ...bet it will be an honest answer without any recourse. Wish I could pull out of the gate tomorrow.

[redwitch]

We drove out the Jeffery gate this morning about 8:05 and saw 2 little kids, maybe 2nd grade age, sitting in a golf cart with their father. Dad was about 30-35 years old. So, if they don't live in Silver Lake and are just being picked up at that gate, where are they coming from in the golf cart?

It could be that dad and kids go to grandparents' house every morning from their home outside of TV, get the golf cart, have kids wait for bus (which is probably not for any of the charter schools, but a Lake County school --The Villages Elementary School on Rolling Acres has good rep) and then dad goes to work.

The reality may be the parents are trying to circumvent their local school district and get theirs kids into what they feel is a better school by using the grandparents' address. Happens all over the country.

The only way you're going to know for sure is to follow dad home, be there when school gets out, talk to neighbors and find out if kids are actually living in TV. Then you can report them if it bothers you that much.

It is hard to hide kids here. I was once reported for having my grandson here for four days while my daughter went away for the weekend. Community Watch dropped by and asked how long he would be staying with me. My home was watched a lot for the next few months to make sure it was truly only a visit.

[graciegirl]

I got excited education is a wonderful thing. In my life time I have never spoke out nor have I vote against a tax increase that was for education.

I absolutely agree with you and I have voted for tax increases for our local schools every time. We aren't against children, most of us love children, very much and not just our own, either.

but this is an age segregated community.

Please don't think hate where there is none. AND most of us love dogs too.
Most of us.

[TVMayor]

I absolutely agree with you and I have voted for tax increases for our local schools every time. We aren't against children, most of us love children, very much and not just our own, either.

but this is an age segregated community.

Please don't think hate where there is none. AND most of us love dogs too.
Most of us.
My dog was home schooled.

[graciegirl]

My dog was home schooled.

:a20::a20::a20:

[Becky]

The kids are not going to The Charter School. Charter School does not have busses.

[graciegirl]

The kids are not going to The Charter School. Charter School does not have busses.


Children are not allowed to live in The Villages. There are three, non-village, villages, built for workers, with no amenities but they have golf cart access. Children can live there but not in Silver Lake or any of the "regular" villages.

It doesn't matter whether it is Charter or Public school. Children are not allowed to live in The Villages. They may visit for up to 30 days a year.

[redwitch]

Children are not allowed to live in The Villages. There are three, non-village, villages, built for workers, with no amenities but they have golf cart access. Children can live there but not in Silver Lake or any of the "regular" villages.

It doesn't matter whether it is Charter or Public school. Children are not allowed to live in The Villages. They may visit for up to 30 days a year.

To date, we don't know they are living in TV. There are many possible scenarios where the kids are being dropped off but don't actually reside here. Considering how easy it is to make an anonymous call, I doubt they are living here on a permanent basis. The other possibility is that the neighbors have decided to not call for whatever reason, regardless of the rules.

So, the choices are: do nothing, directly ask the parent, or become a detective and find out if the kids actually do live here and then take the appropriate action.

[CFrance]

To date, we don't know they are living in TV. There are many possible scenarios where the kids are being dropped off but don't actually reside here. Considering how easy it is to make an anonymous call, I doubt they are living here on a permanent basis. The other possibility is that the neighbors have decided to not call for whatever reason, regardless of the rules.

So, the choices are: do nothing, directly ask the parent, or become a detective and find out if the kids actually do live here and then take the appropriate action.
I'm confused. Someone said the parents are dropping some of them off via golf cart. I don't understand the implications of that. They would have to be coming from inside TV if they're coming by golf cart, right?

[ganative]

Based on the op's statement of 5 golf carts and 3 cars waiting for the bus I'm going to assume it's a central bus of sought and their commuting perhaps from one of villages that allows kids perhaps. Not really familiar with the historic side to know how far one of the kid friendly villages are from the bus stops. I just can't imagine 8 families or about are living in silver lake illegally. Just my opinion. ..but I have known to be wrong before.

[Martysmom]

Live and let live. Let someone else worry about it.

[buggyone]

I have noticed since school started how many kids there are living in Silver Lake! At first I thought it was grandparents babysitting and the bus picking them up but this morning I counted 5 golf carts and 3 cars sitting at the Jeffery Gate entrance waiting for the school bus and 4 of these golf carts were being driven by either the young mothers or the fathers. Do these people live in Silver Lake with these kids and if so, how do they get away with it? I counted 9 kids waiting for the bus and some were in cars and vans...right at the Jeffrey gate entrance.

Just hop on your golf cart and follow the young parents or grandparents home. If you find out it is a family with children who have been living here for more than 30 days, call Deed Restrictions listed in the front of your phone book. You do not need to give your name.

We do not dislike children but the rules are clear AND there are no exceptions to the 30 day limit.

[njbchbum]

As long as you are sleuthing, Martysmom, you could always call the school and find out the residential area serviced by that bus stop; and ask if children from the Villages board the bus there - and any other Villages stop that might be available, too!

[Martysmom]

As long as you are sleuthing, Martysmom, you could always call the school and find out the residential area serviced by that bus stop; and ask if children from the Villages board the bus there - and any other Villages stop that might be available, too!

Good idea! I will do that tomorrow!

[DougB]

They could possibly be students in transition (in other words homeless) and the families are staying with the grandparents in The Villages for thirty days. The district would be required to provide bus service.

[graciegirl]

They could possibly be students in transition (in other words homeless) and the families are staying with the grandparents in The Villages for thirty days. The district would be required to provide bus service.


Doug, thank you for reminding us of homeless children. When I taught, that was unheard of.

[Skybo]

I found out today these kids are going to Lady Lake Elementary and not TV Charter school.

I was able to only snap a photo of one this AM. There were 3 other carts to the right but I didn't want them to see me taking a photo. 44445 Sorry it's sideways...my phone does that sometimes! :confused: If you click on the photo, it comes out right. Go figure!

OK, this is just wrong. You don't know who these folks are or if they are doing anything wrong. Their photo shouldn't be arbitrarily posted on a public website, especially a photo of a child. Send your your concerns onto the appropriate department and let them figure out what is going on.

[Harry Gilbert]

OK, this is just wrong. You don't know who these folks are or if they are doing anything wrong. Their photo shouldn't be arbitrarily posted on a public website, especially a photo of a child. Send your your concerns onto the appropriate department and let them figure out what is going on.

Not to mention the possibility of a nice conversation with the county prosecuter about the legality of stalking these people.

If you have a concern call the authorities.

[Martysmom]

Illegally stalking? Oh c'mon...I drive out that gate every morning and there they all are! How is that stalking??

[nitehawk]

Doug, thank you for reminding us of homeless children. When I taught, that was unheard of.

Maybe you never heard of them -- but there has always been homeless chrildren

[Moderator]

The topic is school kids being picked up near Silver Lake and whether they reside in The Villages.

Please stay on topic and do not direct replies at other members.

Moderator

[Challenger]

Illegally stalking? Oh c'mon...I drive out that gate every morning and there they all are! How is that stalking??

This thread is showing more and more paranoia. Kids standing on a corner waiting for a school bus. "They must be hiding in The Villages" Hmmmmmm

[Martysmom]

I asked a simple question because I'm new and didn't understand the rules of TV yet. I'm sorry I even asked. Good grief, what a strange turn this took!

[dbanks50]

I asked a simple question because I'm new and didn't understand the rules of TV yet. I'm sorry I even asked. Good grief, what a strange turn this took!

I'm glad you posted, and I hope you pursue this. I have a place in Silver Lake but I'm not there full time. I do not wish to have full time children in the neighborhood. It's not good for them either. No one to play with and possibly having to stay indoors to not draw attention.

[dirtbanker]

I asked a simple question because I'm new and didn't understand the rules of TV yet. I'm sorry I even asked. Good grief, what a strange turn this took!

Does this mean you are not going to call the school and get an answer that would end the suspense?

Don't let them run you off, they are a fickle bunch on here!

[graciegirl]

I asked a simple question because I'm new and didn't understand the rules of TV yet. I'm sorry I even asked. Good grief, what a strange turn this took!

Children under the age of 19 are not allowed to live here. You have a right to think and say whatever you want to. This is The Villages. We are all grown up.

[redwitch]

A few years ago, I had a boy staying at my home until his father could find a place to live. He stayed for six weeks. Yes, I know, over the legal limits but the neighbors were very well aware of his being there and knew it was truly temporary, emergency situation. I took him to Target every morning in my golf cart and then walked to the school with him every day. Ditto after school. As soon as his father could, he took his son. On occasion after that (probably about five times), the boy would spend the night and I'd take him to school (usually when his dad had to get to work extremely early or work late).

The schools don't care if the address is inside or outside of TV, just that it is within their jurisdiction and by that bus stop. So, I'm sure some of the kids at that stop are perfectly legal and probably live somewhere near Griffen Road. The kids on golf carts may or may not be legal. Depends on whether they are actually living in TV (could just be a morning drop off with grands picking kids up after school and then watching them at the kids' homes until the father gets home -- know of a couple instances of this occurring) and, if so, for how long.

Personally, I wouldn't worry about it. If staying too long, odds are a neighbor will report them.

[kstew43]

anybody ever think that maybe the grandparents babysit the children after school while the parents work. then the parents come by the grandparents home after work to retrieve the kids.

parents just maybe use that bus stop to make it eaiser for the grandparents and because of that must drive the kids themselves to the bus stop in the morning.

If you want to play detective, watch and see who picks up the kids at the bus stop in the afternoon.

[Martysmom]

I'm not pursing this because it's ruffling too many feathers. If someone else wants to, that's ok.

[RedChariot]

I'm not pursing this because it's ruffling too many feathers. If someone else wants to, that's ok.

You have a right to ask and pursue the information. If this subject is not brought into the light it could become more pervasive. Don't let the bullies on this board influence you.
If a business does not know of a problem, how can they correct it? Bring this issue into the forefront to the proper authorities. Good luck and I for one would hope you would let us know the outcome.

[Bogie Shooter]

You have a right to ask and pursue the information. If this subject is not brought into the light it could become more pervasive. Don't let the bullies on this board influence you.
If a business does not know of a problem, how can they correct it? Bring this issue into the forefront to the proper authorities. Good luck and I for one would hope you would let us know the outcome.

Good suggestion.......................better than taking photos and posting on the Internet.

[Martysmom]

I took the photo down. I see what everyone means by bullies now...

[nitehawk]

I'm not pursing this because it's ruffling too many feathers. If someone else wants to, that's ok.

Rest assured -----nobody will ---- most people ( not the people on totv :laugh: ) just give advise - weather they know what they are talking about or not --even if you found out why-- some people still will not believe it---- try the kool-aid--- there is never anything bad happening in tv- just read the daily sun --I just love tv - the golf courses - the squares -- the clubs -- the entertainment --etc and i will never move --- just had my kool-aid

[Martysmom]

I want to thank all those who were kind and thoughtful and had suggestions and answers. (Thanks Gracie!) I just find the bullies comments are outweighing the nice comments. The last batch from Bogie Shooter has done it for me. His comments were rude and unnecessary.

Thanks to TOTV for being helpful and informative. I think I'll go elsewhere for information. This forum isn't what I expected.

[graciegirl]

Rest assured -----nobody will ---- most people ( not the people on totv :laugh: ) just give advise - weather they know what they are talking about or not --even if you found out why-- some people still will not believe it---- try the kool-aid--- there is never anything bad happening in tv- just read the daily sun --I just love tv - the golf courses - the squares -- the clubs -- the entertainment --etc and i will never move --- just had my kool-aid


I cannot figure this out. I never know when some posters are kidding.

Some people have been positive all of their lives. They try to find the good in stuff. It is easy to do here. And also to get really, really mad. We are all humans and we have things we believe in. Not everyone who lives here is nice, but most have lived long enough to be, well, reasonable.

I like grape. Lotta ice.

[buggyone]

I was able to only snap a photo of one this AM. There were 3 other carts to the right but I didn't want them to see me taking a photo. Attachment 44445 Sorry it's sideways...my phone does that sometimes! If you click on the photo, it comes out right. Go figure!
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This is so very, very wrong. You need to get a new hobby or do some volunteer work.

No, I do not think taking a picture of a deed restriction potential violator is wrong. It is the same as if someone posted a picture of an overgrown lawn at a vacant house or a junk car in a driveway or (if I was south of 466) the flock of pink flamingos in my front yard. Glad I live north of 466!

[dbanks50]

Well, I called Community Standards. They can't do anything without an address. Regardless of the circumstance, it's worth investigation. If it's appropriate, that's fine. If it's not, it should be addressed. I'm not in TV right now, so I can do no more. And, yes, I live in Silver Lake so it does matter to me.

[Bogie Shooter]

I want to thank all those who were kind and thoughtful and had suggestions and answers. (Thanks Gracie!) I just find the bullies comments are outweighing the nice comments. The last batch from Bogie Shooter has done it for me. His comments were rude and unnecessary.

Thanks to TOTV for being helpful and informative. I think I'll go elsewhere for information. This forum isn't what I expected.

Since you directed this post at me I will respond.
You brought up a good question in your OP. It is wrong if there are children living in the villages for more than 30 days. Thats not my idea its in the deed restrictions we all signed.
If you really wanted answers to your question a simple call to the Community Standards office with your concern, and they would have followed-up.
However, taking secret photos of children at a bus stop (like a Paparazzi), in my opinion was going too far.
You call this bulling. You stated your opinion and your actions. I expressed my opinion as well........that's not bulling.

[Villageswimmer]

Perhaps it's about the tone and, yes, arrogance that comes through--intended or not. Maybe we're all guilty of it from time to time.

[Indydealmaker]

With regard to children visiting residents in The Villages, I have never seen a clarification of the "30 days" restriction. Is the 30 days per year an aggregate number or 30 days per child?

[skip0358]

There is a thirty day rule about Children under 19 living here. There have been emergency cases where it has been allowed BUT you must get permission from the powers to be. Children can be dropped off by there parents at the grandparents house before and after school so Mom and or Dad can go to work. I doubt they're living here full time as someone would complain. As for taking picture of a child at a bus stop be very careful you could wind up in trouble with the law. The bus over there would be going to THE Villages Elementary School on Rolling Acres Road. This is NOT part of The Villages Charter System and it does get bus transportation from that area.

[John_W]

I remember playing golf with a fellow about a year ago that was moving out of TV to Parkwood, which is a community off CR 101 north of the CVS. I asked why were you moving, you didn't like it here? He said, his 20something year old daughter was living with them and had just given birth to a baby. In order for her and the baby to continue living with them they would have to move.

[sunnyatlast]

I took the photo down. I see what everyone means by bullies now...

Ignore them. They ridicule when you tell facts of what you saw without posting a picture as proof. Then you provide proof with a picture and people who know this society is sue-crazy surface as armchair lawyers against you. The goal is to rule the roost on the board, and that is playground behavior.

Thanks for bringing attention to the subject.

[jbdlfan]

Are there children living in The Villages? Yes. It's a fact. Are these those kids maybe, probably not. People in this area drive golf carts all over the place OUTSIDE the Villages. These kids could easily live down the road. They could be dropped off there everyday. Lake County chose this as the bus stop for a reason......Think people....geesh.

[sharonga]

I think people should stop being busy bodies. If the children are not bothering you, look away. No one knows what another is going through. Lets be human beings.

[Indydealmaker]

I think people should stop being busy bodies. If the children are not bothering you, look away. No one knows what another is going through. Lets be human beings.

If the deed restrictions are not enforced, The Villages could lose its Federal Age Restriction status. The investment in your home would take a huge hit. Sometimes you need to be proactive regardless of your emotions.

With brisk resales in The Villages, it is not likely to be a significant hardship for a current resident to pick up and move in order for them to help take on long term care for a grandchild.

[Indydealmaker]

Is anyone else aware that it is legal and permissible for a child under the age of 19 to own a home in The Villages?

[sunnyatlast]

Is anyone else aware that it is legal and permissible for a child under the age of 19 to own a home in The Villages?

Yes. They can own one. It would be a nice inheritance and when they turn 19 they can live in it, work, and go to a local college or university.

It's a great country.

[njbchbum]

I think people should stop being busy bodies. If the children are not bothering you, look away. No one knows what another is going through. Lets be human beings.

Would that be considered selective enforcement of deed restrictions?