Latest on Assault in Duval

[sunglow]

I can't find the thread on the alleged assault on the woman in the village of Duval. I would like to know what really happened. Have more facts come out about the case?

[njbchbum]

I don't mean to be rude...but why dig this up again? Why not let the victim have her privacy and just be aware of your surroundings, keep your garage door closed and lock your doors when you go inside?

If this is keeping you up at night, why not give the police a call and see what they have to tell you?

And if it has you more upset, why not have a security system installed at your house?

[kittygilchrist]

Bring it up because the paper and law enforcement did her an injustice.

A man came thru unlocked door, physically, not sexually, assaulted her with an instrument of some kind when she resisted, primarily on the limbs, forced her to swallow a pill. Disabled garage door, locked her there. Heard her banging wall of garage. Repeated assault, forced another pill, barricaded her in a closet. She passed out and awoke hours later.

The house had been burglarized and dry wall cut in a closet. She is recovering and has family support. If I were in her place, it would take longer for emotions to heal than the wounds of the physical brutality. That's how I am praying.

I did not do anything to try to get this information. But it came to me from a reliable source and I feel obligated to share it for the sake of our community being aware as well as to contradict what we were told by news sources.

[Love2cruise]

Bring it up because the paper and law enforcement did her an injustice.

A man came thru unlocked door, physically, not sexually, assaulted her with an instrument of some kind when she resisted, primarily on the limbs, forced her to swallow a pill. Disabled garage door, locked her there. Heard her banging wall of garage. Repeated assault, forced another pill, barricaded her in a closet. She passed out and awoke hours later.

The house had been burglarized and dry wall cut in a closet. She is recovering and has family support. If I were in her place, it would take longer for emotions to heal than the wounds of the physical brutality. That's how I am praying.

I did not do anything to try to get this information. But it came to me from a reliable source and I feel obligated to share it for the sake of our community being aware as well as to contradict what we were told by news sources.

Thank you for the update. This woman's privacy is not being invaded since we don't know who the person is.. We/I need to always be aware and careful, even in our ow home. I am sad for this woman but glad this information was made public.

[DDoug]

A gun is the answer carry one at all times and dont be afraid to use it

[The Mountaineer]

A gun is the answer carry one at all times and dont be afraid to use it

I hope you're being facetious. That's all The Villages needs is to have pistol-packing mamas. You think the sex lady brought infamy to The Villages? A town of senior citizens packing heat would bring down the New York Post, the Manchester Guardian and maybe even the New York Times on the good citizens of The Villages.

Do NOT open that can of worms!

[kittygilchrist]

I hope you're being facetious. That's all The Villages needs is to have pistol-packing mamas. You think the sex lady brought infamy to The Villages? A town of senior citizens packing heat would bring down the New York Post, the Manchester Guardian and maybe even the New York Times on the good citizens of The Villages.

Do NOT open that can of worms!

Mountaineer, if I had been locked in the garage I would've gotten the gun out of the car and if possible I would've killed the thug. That said, nobody can pack a gun all the time or wants to. And anyone licensed to carry has the right to do it regardless of their gender.

[graciegirl]

I hope you're being facetious. That's all The Villages needs is to have pistol-packing mamas. You think the sex lady brought infamy to The Villages? A town of senior citizens packing heat would bring down the New York Post, the Manchester Guardian and maybe even the New York Times on the good citizens of The Villages.

Do NOT open that can of worms!


You are new here, right? Many of my neighbors have guns and have been trained to use them. I was surprised too.

They are responsible folks and I love them. You learn new stuff every day. Never had neighbors back in Ohio who had guns or who went to gun clubs. A very big bunch of people have guns here. Don't fool with old people.

[graciegirl]

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[sunnyatlast]

Bring it up because the paper and law enforcement did her an injustice.

A man came thru unlocked door, physically, not sexually, assaulted her with an instrument of some kind when she resisted, primarily on the limbs, forced her to swallow a pill. Disabled garage door, locked her there. Heard her banging wall of garage. Repeated assault, forced another pill, barricaded her in a closet. She passed out and awoke hours later.

The house had been burglarized and dry wall cut in a closet. She is recovering and has family support. If I were in her place, it would take longer for emotions to heal than the wounds of the physical brutality. That's how I am praying.

I did not do anything to try to get this information. But it came to me from a reliable source and I feel obligated to share it for the sake of our community being aware as well as to contradict what we were told by news sources.

Good to know, but this is entirely different from this (below) on the other thread a few days ago. So which story is it??

I cannot believe how people make up anything that comes to mind when they have no facts. This entire thread is chock full of assumptions, and claims to have known an eye witness or relative of the alleged victim, even though perhaps they only know what the alleged victim told them, but they believe what they heard is truth, even though law-enforcement says the victim making the allegations was confused.

My sense of it is, the alleged victim had issues, and so do most of us. Regarding her hospitalization, she was apparently substance impaired. Would that not explain confusion without having to fabricate a story about a brain injury?

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/home-invasion-update-village-duval-124417/index11.html

[John_W]

I hope you're being facetious. That's all The Villages needs is to have pistol-packing mamas. You think the sex lady brought infamy to The Villages? A town of senior citizens packing heat would bring down the New York Post, the Manchester Guardian and maybe even the New York Times on the good citizens of The Villages.

Do NOT open that can of worms!

Florida has issued 1.3 million concealed weapons permits with a population of about 20 million. That's means about 1 in every 19 people in Florida are probably carrying a concealed weapon. In TV with a population made up of a large amount of retired military, police and responsible seniors, the quota is probably even much higher. I'm glad for it, because license holders take the responsibility seriously and wouldn't even use a phrase like 'pistol packing mama' to describe themselves.

[Jaggy]

what I am missing from this story ( or else I am a dunce).. who was the man that assaulted her?? Stranger danger or relative?

[Chi-Town]

The update that I received from two reliable sources Monday is that the woman was confused, and there might be nothing to the story. Now that sure is one end of the spectrum to the other.

[bimmertl]

Yup, don't fool with armed old people who take the responsibility seriously!

Fearing intruder, Tampa grandmother shoots grandson, 7 (http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/8/19/fearing_intruder_tam.html)

[kittygilchrist]

What I have told you today is the woman's history of what happened, which agrees with many of the earliest reports in the prior thread that came from Duval residents. Everyone has to make their own mind up what they want to believe.

[DDoug]

Remember the show Peyton Place.

[The Mountaineer]

You are new here, right? Many of my neighbors have guns and have been trained to use them. I was surprised too.

They are responsible folks and I love them. You learn new stuff every day. Never had neighbors back in Ohio who had guns or who went to gun clubs. A very big bunch of people have guns here. Don't fool with old people.

I'm not new to guns since I grew up in West Virginia and the opening day of deer hunting season was an automatic excused absence at Monongah High School. I've fired a few myself as part of my ROTC training. But I'll be sure not to tick off any of the good ladies of The Villages, particularly if they have their hands on the holster at their hip.

Hope to see all of you in January. I'm coming unarmed, though.

:smiley::smiley::smiley:

[graciegirl]

I'm not new to guns since I grew up in West Virginia and the opening day of deer hunting season was an automatic excused absence at Monongah High School. I've fired a few myself as part of my ROTC training. But I'll be sure not to tick off any of the good ladies of The Villages, particularly if they have their hands on the holster at their hip.

Hope to see all of you in January. I'm coming unarmed, though.

:smiley::smiley::smiley:

You will do just fine. You have a sense of humor. And so far....none of us have shot each other.

I do have a bunch of fearless girlfriends with supersoakers who stand at the ready to discharge justice.

[Barefoot]

... it came to me from a reliable source and I feel obligated to share it for the sake of our community being aware as well as to contradict what we were told by news sources.


The update that I received from two reliable sources Monday is that the woman was confused, and there might be nothing to the story. .

Perhaps it's none of our business, but it's human nature to want to know what is going on in our community.
It's confusing when respected posters hear different stories from reliable sources.

[Bogie Shooter]

reliable sources?

[CFrance]

You will do just fine. You have a sense of humor. And so far....none of us have shot each other.

I do have a bunch of fearless girlfriends with supersoakers who stand at the ready to discharge justice.
And it can be cold in January if you get wet, so watch it!

[Chi-Town]

Perhaps it's none of our business, but it's human nature to want to know what is going on in our community.
It's confusing when respected posters hear different stories from reliable sources.
I agree with you 100%. And it's frustrating to go on this long with no concrete answers to what happened that Saturday night. I understand someone's right to privacy, but the severity of the story requires some conclusion.

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Florida has issued 1.3 million concealed weapons permits with a population of about 20 million. That's means about 1 in every 19 people in Florida are probably carrying a concealed weapon. In TV with a population made up of a large amount of retired military, police and responsible seniors, the quota is probably even much higher. I'm glad for it, because license holders take the responsibility seriously and wouldn't even use a phrase like 'pistol packing mama' to describe themselves.

I believe that FL also has a open carry law if you have a CWP? Can't wait to cruise the town squares with my 1911 on my hip LOL :police:

[Cantwaittoarrive]

People need to stop the gossip. Just because you hear something from someone you trust does not make it a reliable source

[janmcn]

People need to stop the gossip. Just because you hear something from someone you trust does not make it a reliable source


And people would do this if we had a reputable news source that reported the news in a timely manner.

[ejp52]

I believe that FL also has a open carry law if you have a CWP? Can't wait to cruise the town squares with my 1911 on my hip LOL :police:
Limited open carry in Florida.
Gun laws in Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Florida#Open_carry)

[Halibut]

At this point, I don't even believe there is a woman, a break-in, or a village called Duval.

[Barefoot]

At this point, I don't even believe there is a woman, a break-in, or a village called Duval.

...

[Bay Kid]

Limited open carry in Florida.
Gun laws in Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Florida#Open_carry)

I have a concealed carry permit for Virginia. Is this good in Florida also?

[Bogie Shooter]

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[Happinow]

I believe that we have a right to know both the good and the bad of what's going on in our community. We may never know the details but I think we can come to the conclusion that a woman's home was entered with the person being uninvited. Something took place that wasn't good. Her life was in danger. If she had a gun, this would have been the time to use it....I would have. We have the right to bear arms and in this case a gun may have prevented this incident. I think we all learn from things like this. It keeps us on our toes and helps us not get too comfortable in our surroundings. Even though we live in a relatively safe place, crime is all around us. We need to keep our eyes and ears open. May this woman recover from this tragedy and go on to live as normal life as possible.

[graciegirl]

I feel that the law enforcement agency did everything they could to investigate. They really are to be trusted.

[dbussone]

I have a concealed carry permit for Virginia. Is this good in Florida also?

Yes. Are you a resident of VA?

[dbussone]

I have a concealed carry permit for Virginia. Is this good in Florida also?

Bay - here is a link you should know about. http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

[Taltarzac725]

Here's a good starting point if you become a survivor/victim of crime. Victim Services Directory (http://myfloridalegal.com/directory)

People should post others that might be useful.

We should wait and see if this suspect is caught. It sounds too early to find out what actually happened there in that house.

[renielarson]

I trust Kitty and her posts. She is reliable. I also pack and give warning to anyone who tries to violate me, my spouse, visitors to my home, or my house. Period!

[buggyone]

Sorry, but no conclusive proof of this has been shown. Until then, please pass the popcorn.

[Chi-Town]

I trust Kitty and her posts. She is reliable. I also pack and give warning to anyone who tries to violate me, my spouse, visitors to my home, or my house. Period!
Just curious, how often is that? And I'd call before I came over.

[kittygilchrist]

I think we will probably never know the whole story..
As to how often home violation happens..My door was kicked in once by a stranger, in a quiet safe little suburb of Gainesville.
It sounds like an explosion at your front door. The door frame ripped off like a splinter inside the house.

[TraceyMooreRN]

Pass the popcorn? Really?? I believe Kitty- with a little more being kept private due to the attack on the victim. Yes, Attack. Fact. Lock your doors and only open doors to those you know and trust.

[Sophie11]

If the word got out that we all carried this would not of happened!

[Sophie11]

Thank you for sharing this as we are new and it will make me lock our doors!

[Bogie Shooter]

You mean you never locked your doors? In the past?

[CFrance]

You mean you never locked your doors? In the past?
Dumb as it was, we never locked our doors either till the '90s. Unless we went out of town. And didn't start locking our cars till the mid-'90s.

Not anymore.

[graciegirl]

The online news has this headline under breaking news. It sounds like it could be related to this case.

Man suspected in sex assault of woman in her 70’s


I owe everyone an apology. I was skeptical because some very valid sources were thinking she was confused. I am sorry.

[Wandatime]

The online news has this headline under breaking news. It sounds like it could be related to this case.

Man suspected in sex assault of woman in her 70’s


I owe everyone an apology. I was skeptical because some very valid sources were thinking she was confused. I am sorry.

No apologies necessary. We don't know what we don't know.

[kittygilchrist]

We should be careful with each other to say what sources validate our opinions.

[Birdie Dreamer]

The online news has this headline under breaking news. It sounds like it could be related to this case.

Man suspected in sex assault of woman in her 70’s


I owe everyone an apology. I was skeptical because some very valid sources were thinking she was confused. I am sorry.

Probably not the same case. This incident was July 20. Duval incident was August 16.

[CFrance]

Probably not the same case. This incident was July 20. Duval incident was August 16.
Also, the circumstances of the incident just reported in the online news do not sound the same as those of the prior incident of August 16.

[kittygilchrist]

The article in online news says the perp's dna matches other rapes...now I really don not understand why the sheriffs dept. was so tight lipped about the Duval incident. And by the way, the woman said she was drugged. Confusion and drowsiness next day would be normal.

I think the community is put at risk when news of crimes is withheld.

[mixsonci]

And it doesn't just happen in TV, when I was in Virginia at the beginning of the year, there were two stories about single women being raped in their homes within a couple weeks of each other... they were 93 and 95 years old. It was a big story simply because of their age. I don't think they caught the guy, but I think they were of the assumption that it was the same guy for obvious reasons. I left Virginia shortly after this happened so I don't know the outcome. Don't know if there were more incidents or if they caught anyone. Very sad. They interviewed the ladies, but didn't show their faces, but it was very sad to watch and listen to them. There are sickos everywhere, but it's good to know when it happens close to home so you can be extra vigilant when danger is imminent. There's a big difference, IMO, between a "smash and grab" and an actual personal assault on someone.

[Cedwards38]

Now don't get me wrong. I love what the Daily Sun does for me as far as keeping me up on activities in The Villages, but until it becomes, or we get a real newspaper that covers all the news good and bad we will only be going on rampant speculation and rumor. We deserve to know exactly what happened and I have to believe that the Daily Sun is doing us a disservice by not telling us. The Daily Sun's philosophy seems to be taken directly from the Jack Nicholson character in the film, "A Few Good Men," when he says "you can't handle the truth." Come on Daily Sun! We're adults and can handle it.

[Birdie Dreamer]

Now don't get me wrong. I love what the Daily Sun does for me as far as keeping me up on activities in The Villages, but until it becomes, or we get a real newspaper that covers all the news good and bad we will only be going on rampant speculation and rumor. We deserve to know exactly what happened and I have to believe that the Daily Sun is doing us a disservice by not telling us. The Daily Sun's philosophy seems to be taken directly from the Jack Nicholson character in the film, "A Few Good Men," when he says "you can't handle the truth." Come on Daily Sun! We're adults and can handle it.

We can debate about the Daily Sun all we want. I think we need to consider that law enforcement is keeping details confidential as they complete their investigation in this case. Otherwise it would have been published in other news sources. Seems a bit unfair to place all the blame on TDS in this case.

[robertj1954]

Every citizen has a constitutional right to possess a firearm. Florida recognizes this right and like mentioned, many Floridians do have firearms. I would only encourage that if you do purchase a firearm for protection. Educate and train yourself on the firearm. Never carry a firearm if you plan to consume alcohol! Impaired judgement and firearms are a recipe for disaster. Responsible firearm owners understand they are used only for protection and recreation.

[MikeV]

I believe that FL also has a open carry law if you have a CWP? Can't wait to cruise the town squares with my 1911 on my hip LOL :police:

Open carry in Florida is only allowed if you are on your way to hunt or a to target range. You can not just carry in public places.

[MikeV]

You will do just fine. You have a sense of humor. And so far....none of us have shot each other.

I do have a bunch of fearless girlfriends with supersoakers who stand at the ready to discharge justice.

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

[janmcn]

And it doesn't just happen in TV, when I was in Virginia at the beginning of the year, there were two stories about single women being raped in their homes within a couple weeks of each other... they were 93 and 95 years old. It was a big story simply because of their age. I don't think they caught the guy, but I think they were of the assumption that it was the same guy for obvious reasons. I left Virginia shortly after this happened so I don't know the outcome. Don't know if there were more incidents or if they caught anyone. Very sad. They interviewed the ladies, but didn't show their faces, but it was very sad to watch and listen to them. There are sickos everywhere, but it's good to know when it happens close to home so you can be extra vigilant when danger is imminent. There's a big difference, IMO, between a "smash and grab" and an actual personal assault on someone.



The difference is in Virginia the news was reported in a timely manner, I assume. It has been two months since this incident happened, and this is the first we have heard of it.

The news organizations are doing a disservice to the community by not reporting it, and allowing others to be vulnerable while the perpetrator is free to commit other crimes.

[Shimpy]

Hope to see all of you in January. I'm coming unarmed, though.
:smiley::smiley::smiley:

That's your choice but I wouldn't let the world know how vulnerable you are to prove a point.

[CFrance]

The article in online news says the perp's dna matches other rapes...now I really don not understand why the sheriffs dept. was so tight lipped about the Duval incident. And by the way, the woman said she was drugged. Confusion and drowsiness next day would be normal.

I think the community is put at risk when news of crimes is withheld.
The DNA match was to other incidents in the Leesburg jurisdiction, not the incident in Duval. I don't think the incidents are related, or somebody would have said so. The fact that we have heard nothing more about the Duval incident indicates to me that they either haven't caught the perp in that case, or there is something else going on there.

[kittygilchrist]

The DNA match was to other incidents in the Leesburg jurisdiction, not the incident in Duval. I don't think the incidents are related, or somebody would have said so. The fact that we have heard nothing more about the Duval incident indicates to me that they either haven't caught the perp in that case, or there is something else going on there.

I have a Leroy Jethro Gibbs gut feeling about this guy being the perpetrator in Duval.

[wendyquat]

Yup, don't fool with armed old people who take the responsibility seriously!

Fearing intruder, Tampa grandmother shoots grandson, 7 (http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/8/19/fearing_intruder_tam.html)

This grandma was obviously not trained in the safe use of a gun! NRA insists on safety classes!

[Barefoot]

We should be careful with each other to say what sources validate our opinions.

Exactly.

[zonerboy]

I still fail to understand how knowing the "true" gory details of the incident in Duval is going to be of benefit to the "community" or to any person in the Villages.
If you are the type of person who considers home invasion to be a significant threat to your well being, then get a gun, or alarm system, or secure locks, or whatever relieves your anxiety.
If you're not, then don't.
No details necessary.

[MoeVonB61]

THANK YOU KittyGilchrist for releasing the story!...I was personally attacked by several here because I intimated there is a "Higher Power" here in the Villages that has a "STRONG INFLUENCE" over what is published in the Daily Sun.............and BTW Cedward38 YOU CAN GET home delivery here of the Orlando Sentinel....but you still need the Daily Sun for activity listings.

[Chazz]

I still fail to understand how knowing the "true" gory details of the incident in Duval is going to be of benefit to the "community" or to any person in the Villages.
If you are the type of person who considers home invasion to be a significant threat to your well being, then get a gun, or alarm system, or secure locks, or whatever relieves your anxiety.
If you're not, then don't.
No details necessary.

The "details" might just help someone make a better informed decision on exactly what they plan to do, if anything.

[Abster]

The online news has this headline under breaking news. It sounds like it could be related to this case.

Man suspected in sex assault of woman in her 70’s


I owe everyone an apology. I was skeptical because some very valid sources were thinking she was confused. I am sorry.

Yep...so many are too quick to judge or criticize others who disagree with them. I am SOOO happy I'm only here part time.

[CFrance]

Yep...so many are too quick to judge or criticize others who disagree with them. I am SOOO happy I'm only here part time.
Not sure what exactly you mean by your statement. Are you accusing everyone here of being too quick to judge or criticize? The fact that you are only here part time... how does that help? And what do you mean by "here"? TV? TOTV?

[JB in TV]

We can debate about the Daily Sun all we want. I think we need to consider that law enforcement is keeping details confidential as they complete their investigation in this case. Otherwise it would have been published in other news sources. Seems a bit unfair to place all the blame on TDS in this case.

I'm late to this discussion, but I agree with your last sentence, to a point. The Daily Sun could have reported that there was a break in, and state that details are being withheld pending the outcome of the law enforcement investigation. Simple, and straight forward, yes?

[Cajulian]

Yup, don't fool with armed old people who take the responsibility seriously!

Fearing intruder, Tampa grandmother shoots grandson, 7 (http://www.baynews9.com/content/news/baynews9/news/article.html/content/news/articles/bn9/2014/8/19/fearing_intruder_tam.html)

Nothing like picking isolated, singular incidents to prove your point!!! Obviously this one was a mistake and a near tragedy. The boy is recovering.

Many major studies throughout the U.S. Continue to highlight, that as Concealed Carry Permits go up in every State, that violent crime (other than gang related) has continued to be reduced. Even Illinois reported a 26% reduction in violent crime this past year (not including Chicago gang related killings).

[kittygilchrist]

What I have told you today is the woman's history of what happened, which agrees with many of the earliest reports in the prior thread that came from Duval residents. Everyone has to make their own mind up what they want to believe.

We know what the media said. I reported what the woman said to a visitor to the hospital, who also reported that the woman had bruising, swelling and lacerations on her body.

That is all I know. Bottom line for me with these incidents is that the illusion of safety is sustained by the developer's control of media, efficiency of law enforcement is hindered by our spanning three counties and no central police force, and that in the absence of representative government, no one cares what I think.

[Barefoot]

The Daily Sun could have reported that there was a break in, and state that details are being withheld pending the outcome of the law enforcement investigation. Simple, and straight forward, yes?

Simple, yes.
But perhaps The Daily Sun was unable to verify that there was a break-in.

[MoeVonB61]

DITTO!! :)...But it is a great lifestyle here - if they communicated crimes appropriately we would all be better prepared with security, guns, automatic locking doors or whatever way we deem necessary.....INCLUDING organizing Local Crime Watches in our Villages....

[yabbadu]

Wish the moderator would close this!

[Barefoot]

Wish the moderator would close this!

There is a way to unsubscribe from a thread.
Go to "thread tools" and push the "unsubscribe" button.

[Abster]

Not sure what exactly you mean by your statement. Are you accusing everyone here of being too quick to judge or criticize? The fact that you are only here part time... how does that help? And what do you mean by "here"? TV? TOTV? No...I'm not accusing everyone. However, the same people refuse to allow or respect others' opinions/ideas. We own a place here but our primary residence is Central Florida oceanfront. What a difference. Maybe because it's a mix of ages - not all old, crotchety, close minded people.

[mixsonci]

No...I'm not accusing everyone. However, the same people refuse to allow or respect others' opinions/ideas. We own a place here but our primary residence is Central Florida oceanfront. What a difference. Maybe because it's a mix of ages - not all old, crotchety, close minded people.

Speaking of crotchety?