Is the outrage for beheading "manageable"?

[billethkid]

If one compares,

the focus of the media and so called celebrities like Jackson and Sharpton and the crowds protesting whatever they have been programmed to protest,

to,

any such similar reaction by the American people.....

it is obvious there is a major distinction in coverage.

The Ferguson incident has doubts surrounding it and yet there was displayed group outrage demanding something be done by somebody for something not yet understod in it's entirety.

The beheading of Americans accompanied by statements bragging not only about doing so, but bragging to do more as well as targeting all Americans has no doubts what so ever.

But where is the outrage? Where are the catalysts like Jackson and Sharpton et al to stir the public. Where are the cameras and reporters seeking demonstrations of the American public?

Yes, some of us display our feelings on forums like TOTV and some of us call and write our lawmakers and some of us write to Obama. But there is no groundswell of public outrage demanding something to be done.

Until those who govern our lives in Washington see the uprising of we the people they will continue POLITICS AS USUAL relying on a lethargic and apothetic public.....that too automatically will also go back to business as usual.

Where is the public outcry?

Is it that we have become manageable.....I do believe that to be the case.....UNFORTUNATELY for us.

[graciegirl]

If one compares,

the focus of the media and so called celebrities like Jackson and Sharpton and the crowds protesting whatever they have been programmed to protest,

to,

any such similar reaction by the American people.....

it is obvious there is a major distinction in coverage.

The Ferguson incident has doubts surrounding it and yet there was displayed group outrage demanding something be done by somebody for something not yet understod in it's entirety.

The beheading of Americans accompanied by statements bragging not only about doing so, but bragging to do more as well as targeting all Americans has no doubts what so ever.

But where is the outrage? Where are the catalysts like Jackson and Sharpton et al to stir the public. Where are the cameras and reporters seeking demonstrations of the American public?

Yes, some of us display our feelings on forums like TOTV and some of us call and write our lawmakers and some of us write to Obama. But there is no groundswell of public outrage demanding something to be done.

Until those who govern our lives in Washington see the uprising of we the people they will continue POLITICS AS USUAL relying on a lethargic and apothetic public.....that too automatically will also go back to business as usual.

Where is the public outcry?

Is it that we have become manageable.....I do believe that to be the case.....UNFORTUNATELY for us.

No Bill.

Some of us never march. But we think and we write and we vote.

[sunnyatlast]

There was more outrage shown for private insurance policies not providing free $10 birth control pills than there is for these heinous beheadings of bold REAL journalists risking torture to expose the plight of women and children in the middle east.

[TexaninVA]

If one compares,

the focus of the media and so called celebrities like Jackson and Sharpton and the crowds protesting whatever they have been programmed to protest,

to,

any such similar reaction by the American people.....

it is obvious there is a major distinction in coverage.

The Ferguson incident has doubts surrounding it and yet there was displayed group outrage demanding something be done by somebody for something not yet understod in it's entirety.

The beheading of Americans accompanied by statements bragging not only about doing so, but bragging to do more as well as targeting all Americans has no doubts what so ever.

But where is the outrage? Where are the catalysts like Jackson and Sharpton et al to stir the public. Where are the cameras and reporters seeking demonstrations of the American public?

Yes, some of us display our feelings on forums like TOTV and some of us call and write our lawmakers and some of us write to Obama. But there is no groundswell of public outrage demanding something to be done.

Until those who govern our lives in Washington see the uprising of we the people they will continue POLITICS AS USUAL relying on a lethargic and apothetic public.....that too automatically will also go back to business as usual.

Where is the public outcry?

Is it that we have become manageable.....I do believe that to be the case.....UNFORTUNATELY for us.

It's a pathetic statement of where the public is agree ... essentially ignorant, tuned out and living in a fantasy world with occasional outrage over inequality and other political issues the rabble rousers resort to.

It will likely take a set of serious domestic attacks by ISIS in the US for people to wake up and demand their "leaders" (using that term very, very loosely) protect them and, while they're at it, go kill and defeat the barbaric enemy. I mean, how many casualties does it take?

I wonder if we could have "managed" the attack on Pearl Harbor? Perhaps we should have negotiated with Tojo and Hitler vs wiping them off the face of the earth?

[NotGolfer]

My take is...... all the autrocities are happening "over there" with "those" people AND it would never happen here! There have been so many other "news" distractions that folks are lulled into complacency.

We've lost our way in some respects....wondering if we can ever find ourselves back.

[PennBF]

I had business acquaintance's and friends who were very famaliar with the middleeastern, etc. It was their opinion that the people who are fighting the US think of us as just talkers/no action. We continue to talk when we should put boots on the ground and go after them as they are going after us. They count on the 'talking" response by the US and act accordingly. I am not sure they think of us as "cowards" as much as they think of us as weak talkers and no spirit. Current responses by the US only go to support their position. We will see them in the US as most of them are psycopaths with no fear of death. It is time for us to "man up".:rant-rave:

[Madelaine Amee]

If one compares,

the focus of the media and so called celebrities like Jackson and Sharpton and the crowds protesting whatever they have been programmed to protest,

to,

any such similar reaction by the American people.....

it is obvious there is a major distinction in coverage.

The Ferguson incident has doubts surrounding it and yet there was displayed group outrage demanding something be done by somebody for something not yet understod in it's entirety.

The beheading of Americans accompanied by statements bragging not only about doing so, but bragging to do more as well as targeting all Americans has no doubts what so ever.

But where is the outrage? Where are the catalysts like Jackson and Sharpton et al to stir the public. Where are the cameras and reporters seeking demonstrations of the American public?

Yes, some of us display our feelings on forums like TOTV and some of us call and write our lawmakers and some of us write to Obama. But there is no groundswell of public outrage demanding something to be done.

Until those who govern our lives in Washington see the uprising of we the people they will continue POLITICS AS USUAL relying on a lethargic and apothetic public.....that too automatically will also go back to business as usual.

Where is the public outcry?

Is it that we have become manageable.....I do believe that to be the case.....UNFORTUNATELY for us.

I agree wholeheartedly with your post.

My take on our lethargy pertaining to just about anything these days is "we have the attention span of a gnat". Unless you are the parents or relatives, or even very close friends of these young men, do we retain this type of information for any length of time. I don't think so. Which is probably why these atrocities continue. I believe it was last night that I watched a young woman (just imagine what they would do to her) reporting from Syria and I could only shudder to think of her alone in that awful country reporting to the rest of the world stuff we would otherwise not know about. She is freelance, very attractive and so very vulnerable and it terrifies me to think of her doing her reporting.

We need someone we would follow to the ends of the earth ............... someone who could inspire greatness in all of us .............. and we are not going to find it in any of the politicians from either side of the spectrum that we have now.

[Rags123]

I agree wholeheartedly with your post.

My take on our lethargy pertaining to just about anything these days is "we have the attention span of a gnat". Unless you are the parents or relatives, or even very close friends of these young men, do we retain this type of information for any length of time. I don't think so. Which is probably why these atrocities continue. I believe it was last night that I watched a young woman (just imagine what they would do to her) reporting from Syria and I could only shudder to think of her alone in that awful country reporting to the rest of the world stuff we would otherwise not know about. She is freelance, very attractive and so very vulnerable and it terrifies me to think of her doing her reporting.

We need someone we would follow to the ends of the earth ............... someone who could inspire greatness in all of us .............. and we are not going to find it in any of the politicians from either side of the spectrum that we have now.

I agree with this post and also BTK's post.

I might add that this country now only knows what we are against. We seem to be having difficulty with what we are for.

Your note on leadership strikes real with me, but I gotta say, that is not going to change much. We are simple followers of where the press and media take us. Those who can use the media will win over because we have become lazy. We do not search for the truth any longer. We accept as truth whatever is laid before us.

BUT, you are correct....without "...someone we would follow to the ends of the earth" (LEADER) it is just not going to happen.

[sunnyatlast]

People are not going to rally and demand "leaders" take action on atrocities they don't even know about.

In part many people don't know because they do not read/listen to "news" sources in the media (they read/listen to entertainment and social media sources, like Twitter).

And in large part, many do not know about such atrocities and threats to our nation's survival because of what the media puts on the front page. As an example, below are all headlines on NBC News online right now.

Do you see anything about our citizens being beheaded or about chasing down ISIS to the gates of Hell?

Top Stories:

Holder: Ferguson Police Probe Fueled by 'Deep Mistrust'
MICHAEL BROWN SHOOTING
GALLERY

Groundbreaker: Joan Rivers' Life in Pictures
JOAN RIVERS' DEATH

Ebola-Infected Doctor Heading to Nebraska Medical Unit
BREAKING NEWS

U.S. Preparing New Round of Sanctions on Russia
UKRAINE CRISIS

Clinic Where Joan Rivers Was Treated Under Investigation
JOAN RIVERS' DEATH

Sharks vs. Kayakers: Attack Is a Sign of the Times
#SHARKWATCH

Pricier Burgers? What to Know About Fast Food Strikes
BUSINESS

'Family Friend' Arrested in Missing Arizona Girl Case
NEWS

Court Rules Against Gay Marriage Bans in Two States
NEWS

LATEST

White House Lawn Cleared for Suspicious Package

Disposing of Disposable Diapers: Mushrooms Might Help

Bill Clinton Heads to Florida to Stump for Crist

Team USA Finishes Undefeated in Group Play

www.nbcnews.com

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[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I think that you'll find that outside of a small area of Ferguson, MO most U.S. citizens are far more outraged over what's going on in Syria and Iraq.

The news media covers what they think will get the the most viewers. Often they are wrong, but I don't think that the coverages equates to the outrage of most Americans.

[janmcn]

People are not going to rally and demand "leaders" take action on atrocities they don't even know about.

In part many people don't know because they do not read/listen to "news" sources in the media (they read/listen to entertainment and social media sources, like Twitter).

And in large part, many do not know about such atrocities and threats to our nation's survival because of what the media puts on the front page. As an example, below are all headlines on NBC News online right now.

Do you see anything about our citizens being beheaded or about chasing down ISIS to the gates of Hell?

Top Stories:

Holder: Ferguson Police Probe Fueled by 'Deep Mistrust'
MICHAEL BROWN SHOOTING
GALLERY

Groundbreaker: Joan Rivers' Life in Pictures
JOAN RIVERS' DEATH

Ebola-Infected Doctor Heading to Nebraska Medical Unit
BREAKING NEWS

U.S. Preparing New Round of Sanctions on Russia
UKRAINE CRISIS

Clinic Where Joan Rivers Was Treated Under Investigation
JOAN RIVERS' DEATH

Sharks vs. Kayakers: Attack Is a Sign of the Times
#SHARKWATCH

Pricier Burgers? What to Know About Fast Food Strikes
BUSINESS

'Family Friend' Arrested in Missing Arizona Girl Case
NEWS

Court Rules Against Gay Marriage Bans in Two States
NEWS

LATEST

White House Lawn Cleared for Suspicious Package

Disposing of Disposable Diapers: Mushrooms Might Help

Bill Clinton Heads to Florida to Stump for Crist

Team USA Finishes Undefeated in Group Play

NBC News - Breaking News & Top Stories - Latest World, US & Local News (http://www.nbcnews.com)

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Did you intentionally leave out the biggest story of the day? Hint; it involves 20 guilty verdicts, and it is in big headlines at NBC News.

[mtdjed]

Well to some degree it used to be somewhat managed by the despot leaders of some of these countries. In our attempt to bring democracy and supporting the removal of the despots, we have unleased an uncontrolled force. Perhaps the despot was better than the alternative.

[chachacha]

Dennis Michael Lynch has produced a good film called We Ride to DC precisely about all the grassroots demonstrations in washington which never get any media coverage...examples, huge numbers of truckers, bikers, right-to-life demonstrators, veterans, all have organized impassioned rallies with thousands and perhaps millions of participants which never get any publicity from the drive-by media. there IS outrage, but most people never see it! He has also done two films about the immigration border crisis.

[buggyone]

Dennis Michael Lynch has produced a good film called We Ride to DC precisely about all the grassroots demonstrations in washington which never get any media coverage...examples, huge numbers of truckers, bikers, right-to-life demonstrators, veterans, all have organized impassioned rallies with thousands and perhaps millions of participants which never get any publicity from the drive-by media. there IS outrage, but most people never see it! He has also done two films about the immigration border crisis.

I worked in DC for over 30 years and we definitely saw those activist groups mess up our commutes whenever they demonstrated. It was never millions by any stretch of the imagination.

Those groups did not get any sympathy for their cause from commuters.

[TexaninVA]

I worked in DC for over 30 years and we definitely saw those activist groups mess up our commutes whenever they demonstrated. It was never millions by any stretch of the imagination.

Those groups did not get any sympathy for their cause from commuters.

Guess what, most people who exercise their constitutional right to demonstrate don't care about the impact on DC commuters ... especially since they view them to be overpaid and over privileged anyway.

[sunnyatlast]

Did you intentionally leave out the biggest story of the day? Hint; it involves 20 guilty verdicts, and it is in big headlines at NBC News.

It wasn't there when I copied/posted the headlines above. If you mean the R (drool much?) governor and wife, they got what they ordered.

[graciegirl]

.

A LOT of people are quietly so upset right now with good cause.

And nine eleven is coming again.

And what I heard this evening on CNN from the director of Homeland Security was side stepping and excuses and doubletalk. This is not the time for that. This is the time for straight answers.

They think that a man from Boston is the recruiter on social media for the men who have left this country to join ISIS. I hope they find him. I hope they find all of them who are trying to hurt this country.

I feel very upset when people cannot see that there is real danger to all of us and introduce new topics and inane remarks.

[Madelaine Amee]

I think that you'll find that outside of a small area of Ferguson, MO most U.S. citizens are far more outraged over what's going on in Syria and Iraq.

The news media covers what they think will get the the most viewers. Often they are wrong, but I don't think that the coverages equates to the outrage of most Americans.

I hope you are correct Dr. Boogie, and that people really are outraged over what is happening in this world, unfortunately I just don't think so. But, I also wonder if people like me are to blame - I switched on the evening before last and there was a piece on someone being flogged in the desert by ISIS and it sickened me to the point where I just could not watch, so I am definitely part of the problem. I cannot watch people being abused and mistreated so I push it to the back of my mind and turn to something easier to watch. So for all my big talk I am just as much part of the problem as most of this world.

What really surprises me is the international inability to do something. Take Putin invading the Ukraine and then threatening the rest of the world with his nuclear power ........... isn't this how WW11 started with Hitler invading Poland (am I right on it being Poland), and then continuing his march on Europe?

I for one will admit I just don't know - I guess I'm like almost everyone else, I want someone else to come along and clean it up because I don't know how!:confused:

So I think I am going to go back to burying my head in the sand and try to forget about it - after all if it's not yet at my door ..................:rant-rave:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I think that although a lot of people would like to see some kind of action being taken, many are tired of war and are afraid of seeing "boots on the ground" again.

The president has said that the boots on the ground option is off the table. I don't know that he'll be able to keep that promise. But, like his predecessor said, this is a different kind of war. Things will go on every day that the American public will not know about. It will be a war of covert operations and intelligence, more so than any war in the past.

We have a bit of a dichotomy here in that much of the American public doesn't want to see us in another Iraq situation, but they would also feel better if they could see something happening. That "something happening" however, would include video of body bags of American soldiers on the news every night. (We know how much the news media loves to show that.)

The way this war is being waged, (I hope) will not be visible to us. So we will be left with this uncomfortable feeling that nothing is being done.

Neither one of these options makes the American public comfortable.

[Madelaine Amee]

I think that although a lot of people would like to see some kind of action being taken, many are tired of war and are afraid of seeing "boots on the ground" again.

The president has said that the boots on the ground option is off the table. I don't know that he'll be able to keep that promise. But, like his predecessor said, this is a different kind of war. Things will go on every day that the American public will not know about. It will be a war of covert operations and intelligence, more so than any war in the past.

We have a bit of a dichotomy here in that much of the American public doesn't want to see us in another Iraq situation, but they would also feel better if they could see something happening. That "something happening" however, would include video of body bags of American soldiers on the news every night. (We know how much the news media loves to show that.)

The way this war is being waged, (I hope) will not be visible to us. So we will be left with this uncomfortable feeling that nothing is being done.

Neither one of these options makes the American public comfortable.

Good post Mr. Boogie ................. for what my opinion is worth, I agree.

[SouthOfTheBorder]

I had business acquaintance's and friends who were very famaliar with the middleeastern, etc. It was their opinion that the people who are fighting the US think of us as just talkers/no action. We continue to talk when we should put boots on the ground and go after them as they are going after us. They count on the 'talking" response by the US and act accordingly. I am not sure they think of us as "cowards" as much as they think of us as weak talkers and no spirit. Current responses by the US only go to support their position. We will see them in the US as most of them are psycopaths with no fear of death. It is time for us to "man up".:rant-rave:

Easy to say when your feet are not in the boots….

This current world conflict is far different from what most of our generation lived through. The good old war days (and our easily identified enemies) are long gone. Today's threats require a very different approach, the past 10 years should be proof of that. The last thing we need to do is "man up" with another futile attempt to beat the enemy into submission. Surely we have learned at least that much during the past decade.

We (the western world) are most likely in the early stages of fighting what may be known in history as "The 100 Years War".

Don

[janmcn]

The president is on his way home from Europe at this hour after announcing his plan for taking down ISIL. Ten countries have joined in the coalition so far, and Secretary Kerry will stay and try to get some of the Arab countries to join in; such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and others. People have been clamoring to hear the president's plan. Well today he announced it.

[graciegirl]

lll

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

The president is on his way home from Europe at this hour after announcing his plan for taking down ISIL. Ten countries have joined in the coalition so far, and Secretary Kerry will stay and try to get some of the Arab countries to join in; such as Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and others. People have been clamoring to hear the president's plan. Well today he announced it.

His pan so far is to form a coalition of ten nations and degrade and destroy ISIS.

Pretty short on details except for this.

The coalition consists of the U.S., U.K., France, Australia, Germany, Canada, Turkey, Italy, Poland and Denmark.

Kerry acknowledged that not all countries in the coalition would be comfortable directly supporting military actions. "Everybody can do something," he said. "People can contribute either ammunition or weapons or technical know-how or intel capacity."


Sounds an awful lot like what we did in Iraq eleven years ago except that that was the largest coalition ever assembled. Around thirty countries if I'm not mistaken.

[billethkid]

I think while he was in the company of world LEADERS, who readily admit and believe in the reality of the Terrorist threat, they pushed or embarrassed him into a position of having to participate.

Of course to destroy the enemy is the plan........it always has been!