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DDoug
09-26-2014, 05:34 PM
What would you do if martial law was imposed here in America and do you think it could or would happen. Only a question.

gomoho
09-26-2014, 05:49 PM
I believe I would abide by the rules. I imagine it could happen in the case of a disease outbreak i.e. Ebola or extreme terrorist activities. And I would also be glued to the television for information.

tucson
09-26-2014, 05:57 PM
It depends on what kind of orders he enforces.

billethkid
09-26-2014, 06:08 PM
let us hope and pray it does not ever come to that "need".....and especially during the next two years!!!!!!!!!!!!

VT2TV
09-26-2014, 06:30 PM
Very, very sorry to say that I believe it could happen, and if it does, I don't think anyone will have a choice as to what they will do. I wonder if that has not been the plan all along. No flames, but it is my opinion.

Challenger
09-26-2014, 06:34 PM
Very, very sorry to say that I believe it could happen, and if it does, I don't think anyone will have a choice as to what they will do. I wonder if that has not been the plan all along. No flames, but it is my opinion.

Wow!!!!

Buffalo Jim
09-26-2014, 06:35 PM
I would never ever have felt that it could be possible however I now feel that it could happen .
Part of the OPs question was " what would you do "?
My response is " What could we do " ? Nothing .

DDoug
09-26-2014, 06:37 PM
I think it is gradualism. That is what it looks like is happening now. Does that bother anyone.

sunnyatlast
09-26-2014, 06:56 PM
I believe I would abide by the rules. I imagine it could happen in the case of a disease outbreak i.e. Ebola or extreme terrorist activities. And I would also be glued to the television for information.

That assumes that electricity and private-sector broadcasters have not been cut off.

KayakerNC
09-26-2014, 06:58 PM
What would you do if Marshall law was imposed here in America and do you think it could or would happen. Only a question.

Pretty sure it's "Martial" Law. Too many episodes of Gunsmoke?

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZsJZVxRkyDKVYMZDxmJu1ViLghW5Cr uqaARn8f5XE3GwsywrM

Taltarzac725
09-26-2014, 07:19 PM
What would you do if Marshall law was imposed here in America and do you think it could or would happen. Only a question.

Martial law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martial_law)

It would probably be very localized like it was at other times in US history.

MikeV
09-26-2014, 09:50 PM
Bruce Willis stars in a movie called "The Siege". It is about what happens when Martial Law is declared in the U.S.. The movie is about sealing of Brooklyn because of a sleeper cell of terrorists. In the movie Bruce Willis' who plays the military character warns that the very last thing that should be done and for good reason. The movie is worth a look.

The Siege with Denzel Washington, Annette Benning and Bruce Willis

Taltarzac725
09-26-2014, 09:53 PM
Bruce Willis stars in a movie called "The Siege". It is about what happens when Martial Law is declared in the U.S.. The movie is about sealing of Brooklyn because of a sleeper cell of terrorists. In the movie Bruce Willis' who plays the military character warns that the very last thing that should be done and for good reason. The movie is worth a look.

The Siege with Denzel Washington, Annette Benning and Bruce Willis

I believe that is martial law for Brooklyn and not for the whole US.

DougB
09-26-2014, 09:58 PM
Martial law for Brooklyn might not be a bad idea.

Taltarzac725
09-26-2014, 10:06 PM
Martial law for Brooklyn might not be a bad idea.

At times, probably.

Blessed2BNTV
09-27-2014, 06:23 AM
Martial law for Brooklyn might not be a bad idea.

Only you Doug....I so get your sense of humor and hope to meet you one day soon....2 more months until we are full timers.

Sign me...
A girl from Brooklyn

Irishmen
09-27-2014, 06:39 AM
See the aftermath of the Boston Marathon bombings. Shelter in place is Marshall Law.

rubicon
09-27-2014, 07:04 AM
If such restriction were imposed by the federal government my first thought would be toward its legitimacy then its real need. There was a day when most Americans had complete trust in their government. Today that trust has eroded as government continues to fail miserably, systematically remove citizens rights and work toward a socialistic state somewhat like the European model. My response might be quite different if it was mandated by a state for obvious reasons

If you will recall federal politicians seem to have gotten really good at creating pseudo crisis moments and playing the fear factor.

In my view such a federal mandate would have to be one heck of a demonstrable reason to invoke such action.

mrdarcy
09-27-2014, 07:27 AM
Shelter-in-place is a request. Martial law is law, enforceable by arrest and use of deadly force to achieve compliance. There's a bit of a difference.

Cedwards38
09-27-2014, 07:30 AM
Anything is possible. I think this is highly improbable. I wonder if Chicken Little will post on this topic!

TNLAKEPANDA
09-27-2014, 07:38 AM
Ten years ago the thought never entered my mind but today I think about it a lot. Things have changed that much in our country. Yes it could happen and a lot of people feel that way. We are prepared to bug out to locations where we can be free. People living in big cities and highly populated areas will not have much choice but to obey or be ??? It is sad to think that military and police would follow the commands of one person wanting total control and power. It has happened in past history quite often.

l2ridehd
09-27-2014, 08:08 AM
It's not could it happen, but when it will happen. Every country that has gone to the point of voters raiding the treasury by wanting more has collapsed and failed. We are already past the point of more people getting than paying. So get ready, it will happen.

NotGolfer
09-27-2014, 08:15 AM
Martial law here would mean troops in the streets. Highways cordoned off, restricted times to be out. Maybe even restrictions on "goods" to be had. Television wouldn't be like it is now...it would be state-run "news". I think if/when this would happen it would be a LIFE like we've never before experienced. Curfews...that kind of thing.

redwitch
09-27-2014, 08:28 AM
I've feared martial law ever since the Homestead Act. We've given up our rights for security and it only gets worse. The more rights and freedoms we are willing to give without even a whimper, the more willing our politicians are to take more and more freedoms from us.

Something tells me that I would one of those shot or imprisoned for disobeying a curfew or refusing to obey a "law" I considered unconstitutional.

rp001
09-27-2014, 08:32 AM
let us hope and pray it does not ever come to that "need".....and especially during the next two years!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why exactly is that?

graciegirl
09-27-2014, 08:38 AM
I've feared martial law ever since the Homestead Act. We've given up our rights for security and it only gets worse. The more rights and freedoms we are willing to give without even a whimper, the more willing our politicians are to take more and more freedoms from us.

Something tells me that I would one of those shot or imprisoned for disobeying a curfew or refusing to obey a "law" I considered unconstitutional.


I don't know exactly what Martial Law is...and the only "Homestead Act" that I can find is this one;

Homestead Act
n1. (Law) an act passed by the US Congress in 1862 making available to settlers 160-acre tracts of public land for cultivation
2. (Law) (in Canada) a similar act passed by the Canadian Parliament in 1872

Sometimes when I see things like what happened at Ferguson, I have feared a national race uprising. Would then Martial law be when the National Guard would be called in???

I learn a lot of people on this forum. Have we ever had Martial Law here in this country other than a regional situation? Didn't that happen during Hurricane Katrina?

rubicon
09-27-2014, 08:45 AM
Perhaps all of this discussion is a waste of time when you consider our government can't and won't keep illegals out. I mean it has to be easier to leave then to enter?

rubicon
09-27-2014, 09:30 AM
It appears this discussion is being to drift too politically so, perhaps for enlightenment we should perhaps point to an event that we agree would warrant such an action. I believe a major cyber/ hacking breach would create the need for such action

TheVillageChicken
09-27-2014, 09:38 AM
It appears this discussion is being to drift too politically so, perhaps for enlightenment we should perhaps point to an event that we agree would warrant such an action. I believe a major cyber/ hacking breach would create the need for such action


Zombie Apocalypse

tucson
09-27-2014, 09:46 AM
Most Americans don't know this, time to get educated

www.gatestoneinstitute.org/muslim-brotherhood-us-government

tucson
09-27-2014, 09:47 AM
If it doesn't open, Gatestone Institute (http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org)

Chi-Town
09-27-2014, 09:50 AM
Zombie Apocalypse

As they say on Family Feud "Good answer!" Probably #1.

kittygilchrist
09-27-2014, 10:49 AM
If it doesn't open, Gatestone Institute (http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org)

Thank you for an excellent resource. It feels less lonely knowing that others know what you know.

rubicon
09-27-2014, 10:58 AM
You science guys/girls out there help me but I believe it is an electrical magnetic force field shower or something of that nature that would shut down every electrical operating deice in the country. total darkness. and all it would take are a few missiles launched high enough to spread the force field. Such an action and on a smaller scale has occurred or resulted from solar flares coming from the sun. Scary

Chi-Town
09-27-2014, 11:04 AM
Or maybe due to nuclear testing a giant lizard comes out of the sea.... oh wait, that one's been taken.

Taltarzac725
09-27-2014, 11:26 AM
Nuclear attack on US soil. Fail Safe or some other kind of scenario.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
09-27-2014, 11:49 AM
I believe I would abide by the rules. I imagine it could happen in the case of a disease outbreak i.e. Ebola or extreme terrorist activities. And I would also be glued to the television for information.

I agree. It's pretty simple. You either obey the law or you don't. We have elected people to make decisions for us. We have to accept the decisions they make whether you agree with them or not.

Walter123
09-27-2014, 11:57 AM
I agree. It's pretty simple. You either obey the law or you don't. We have elected people to make decisions for us. We have to accept the decisions they make whether you agree with them or not.

It really depends what kind of law we are talking about. If it's something like a curfew, that would be OK but if the law wants to disarm me, that's a different story. It's like you say. Either obey the law or don't. But don't be a sheep being led to slaughter.

graciegirl
09-27-2014, 12:13 PM
Or maybe due to nuclear testing a giant lizard comes out of the sea.... oh wait, that one's been taken.


Generally I am the one saying that this issue or that on this forum is way over the top and folks are making too much of it. People get all bent out of shape about their steak being too done, but this I have to say is no silly giant lizard.

All channels are saying that Isis is a valid threat. This is not something that we take political or philosophical sides on.

Those folks are out to get US. WE ALL are the infidels and we are their target.

Your new baby grandson and Uncle Bob and your sister in law who you don't like and the guy pouring drinks at Lake Sumter Landing. They want us dead..all AMERICANS.

Chi-Town
09-27-2014, 02:23 PM
Generally I am the one saying that this issue or that on this forum is way over the top and folks are making too much of it. People get all bent out of shape about their steak being too done, but this I have to say is no silly giant lizard.

All channels are saying that Isis is a valid threat. This is not something that we take political or philosophical sides on.

Those folks are out to get US. WE ALL are the infidels and we are their target.

Your new baby grandson and Uncle Bob and your sister in law who you don't like and the guy pouring drinks at Lake Sumter Landing. They want us dead..all AMERICANS.

Actually, this thread is about martial law and its direction took us to what it would take to impose it. Some of the responses were Zombie Apocalypse, Fail Safe, and to stay in the movie genre, I suggested Godzilla. I think Isis and the Infidels (sounds like an Iraqi garage band) may be part of another thread.

graciegirl
09-27-2014, 02:31 PM
Actually, this thread is about martial law and its direction took us to what it would take to impose it. Some of the responses were Zombie Apocalypse, Fail Safe, and to stay in the movie genre, I suggested Godzilla. I think Isis and the Infidels (sounds like an Iraqi garage band) may be part of another thread.


If Federal troops came to this area, I would do what they say to do, and hope to Heaven that whoever was directing them had all American's safety and best interest at heart.

People can think whatever they want about the terrible things truly happening in this world today but they are not anything I can make light of. I am not a person who in their whole life has had anything bitter to say about another religion, but this is far more than religion as we know it and joking about Isis as a garage band sounds like saying Isn't that cute, that child's body hanging from that tree. It isn't a joking matter.

I think jokes and sidestepping issues and changing the subject is a way some people deal with a fear too horrible to contemplate.

I don't know why martial law would be used except in a grave crisis. AND I still don't know what Redwitch means about the homestead act. There must be some political rhetoric about martial law that I am not aware of so as usual, I just think the way I think. I will not be directed by any politics in the face of a serious danger to our future. But why is martial law an issue?

ejp52
09-27-2014, 02:43 PM
If it's something like a curfew, that would be OK but if the law wants to disarm me, that's a different story.
Exactly!

tucson
09-27-2014, 03:03 PM
It really depends what kind of law we are talking about. If it's something like a curfew, that would be OK but if the law wants to disarm me, that's a different story. It's like you say. Either obey the law or don't. But don't be a sheep being led to slaughter.

There was a recent vote that didn't pass (but, by only 7 votes) about confiscating weapons, can anyone elaborate more? I read about it online, don't remember the details, wasn't the UN involved somehow?

Sophie11
09-27-2014, 03:40 PM
IF they remove the guns we will be finished.

Gun confiscation leads to genocide. Here are the historical facts. The following are “civilized” countries that confiscated guns from the populace and the resulting murders that followed: Turkey 1915-1917 1.5 million dead; Soviet Union 1929-1953 20 million dead; Nazi Germany 1933-1945 13 million dead; China 1949-1976 20 million dead; Guatemala 1960-1981 100,000 dead; Uganda 1971-1979 300,000 dead; Cambodia 1975-1979 one million dead.

The TRUTH is there are more murders in Chicago, where guns are out lawed, than in all the rest of the states.

rp001
09-27-2014, 05:46 PM
Most Americans don't know this, time to get educated

www.gatestoneinstitute.org/muslim-brotherhood-us-government

The Institute for Policy Studies has noted that "[t]he institute was founded in 2011 by Nina Rosenwald, an heiress of the Sears Roebuck empire who has been a key philanthropic backer of anti-Muslim groups and individuals in the United States".[51] Sheila Musaji's The American Muslim includes it and Nina Rosenwald in a Who’s Who of the Anti-Muslim/Anti-Arab/Islamophobia Industry,[52] Ali Gharib, of the blog Open Zion, describes it as "a spin-off of the Hudson Institute where right-wingers (along with Alan Dershowitz) champion hawkish, often "pro-Israel" policies and, not infrequently, rattle off Islamophobic blogposts."[53]

This is what you read for a "fair and balanced" opinion. Paranoia at the least!

tucson
09-27-2014, 06:25 PM
Gatestone Institute is a non-partisan not-for-profit dedicated to educate the public about what the mainstream media fails to report. Features topics such as military,diplomatic threats to the U.S. and our allies; events in the Middle East and their possible consequences,and the transparency and accountability of international organizations.

rp001
09-27-2014, 06:33 PM
Gatestone Institute is a non-partisan not-for-profit dedicated to educate the public about what the mainstream media fails to report. Features topics such as military,diplomatic threats to the U.S. and our allies; events in the Middle East and their possible consequences,and the transparency and accountability of international organizations.

This is like saying fox and msnbc are non partisan....rightttttt!

tucson
09-27-2014, 06:45 PM
Did you know the Muslim Brotherhood (a terrorist org) holds high official jobs in our gov't?

tucson
09-27-2014, 06:54 PM
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-non-villages-discussion-93/what-would-you-do-if-martial-law-imposed-here-america-could-happen-128252/www.gatestoneinstitute.org/.../muslim-brotherhood-ansar-bayt-al-maqdis

TexaninVA
09-27-2014, 07:01 PM
The Institute for Policy Studies has noted that "[t]he institute was founded in 2011 by Nina Rosenwald, an heiress of the Sears Roebuck empire who has been a key philanthropic backer of anti-Muslim groups and individuals in the United States".[51] Sheila Musaji's The American Muslim includes it and Nina Rosenwald in a Who’s Who of the Anti-Muslim/Anti-Arab/Islamophobia Industry,[52] Ali Gharib, of the blog Open Zion, describes it as "a spin-off of the Hudson Institute where right-wingers (along with Alan Dershowitz) champion hawkish, often "pro-Israel" policies and, not infrequently, rattle off Islamophobic blogposts."[53]

This is what you read for a "fair and balanced" opinion. Paranoia at the least!

Actually, IPS has been long known as a radical left outfit dating back to it's pro communist days. It's quite amusing you deem that to be an "objective" source. :)

Topspinmo
09-27-2014, 10:02 PM
IMO this country hasn't been this Political divided for along time. when the attorney general calls america cowards what do you expect? I only see things getting worse. I think this only tip of the ice burg to what's coming. civil war II within 20 years? I hope not. They will be coming for all the rich people money shortly. Once we are all broke only then change will come

As for confiscation of all the guns IMO it wii never happen. there are just to many and to easy to get even though warren buffet doing good job of cutting off ammunition supply from civilians now that he owns most of the plants, with billions of dollar government contract.

CatskillBill
09-27-2014, 10:24 PM
IMO this country hasn't been this Political divided for along time. when the attorney general calls america cowards what do you expect? I only see things getting worse. I think this only tip of the ice burg to what's coming. civil war II within 20 years? I hope not. They will be coming for all the rich people money shortly. Once we are all broke only then change will come

As for confiscation of all the guns IMO it wii never happen. there are just to many and to easy to get even though warren buffet doing good job of cutting off ammunition supply from civilians now that he owns most of the plants, with billions of dollar government contract.

It's not Warren Buffet. I think you meant Soros, and that's internet lore. Read this: Does Soros Own All US Gun & Ammo Manufacturers? (http://www.rense.com/general95/soros.htm)

robertj1954
09-28-2014, 07:09 AM
Anything is possible, but martial law over the entire nation is a reach. It has been imposed upon cities during crisis. I can still recall martial law in Detroit along with Federal soldiers enforcing it along side the police. It was necessary to regain control of a city that was in chaos. While the idea of martial law is sobering. It is a tool that may be needed under extreme circumstance.

rp001
09-28-2014, 07:22 AM
My point exactly. They are not objective and never have been. They are extreme right.

DDoug
09-28-2014, 11:45 AM
Keep something in mind,when martial law is imposed and it is during an election I don't believe the president steps down he stays in power. That would be if it was country wide.

rp001
09-28-2014, 11:55 AM
Oh please. Now that is definitely paranoia!

TexaninVA
09-28-2014, 12:25 PM
My point exactly. They are not objective and never have been. They are extreme right.

When responding, you really need to quote the post you are replying too .. .otherwise you unintentionally create the potential for confusion and misunderstanding of what you're trying to say. Just a suggestion ...

janmcn
09-28-2014, 03:48 PM
Keep something in mind,when martial law is imposed and it is during an election I don't believe the president steps down he stays in power. That would be if it was country wide.

You are correct. This president, Barack Obama, stays in power until his term ends in January 2017. That is according to our constitutional form of government.

As OP, what would be the reason for country wide martial law?

graciegirl
09-28-2014, 03:56 PM
I still don't know what issue that I don't understand has brought up Martial Law.

I am not happy to hear from the White house that "mistrust of police is corroding America".

When Statesmen in high offices undermine the authority of those who protect us, that is not good.

graciegirl
09-28-2014, 04:00 PM
The Institute for Policy Studies has noted that "[t]he institute was founded in 2011 by Nina Rosenwald, an heiress of the Sears Roebuck empire who has been a key philanthropic backer of anti-Muslim groups and individuals in the United States".[51] Sheila Musaji's The American Muslim includes it and Nina Rosenwald in a Who’s Who of the Anti-Muslim/Anti-Arab/Islamophobia Industry,[52] Ali Gharib, of the blog Open Zion, describes it as "a spin-off of the Hudson Institute where right-wingers (along with Alan Dershowitz) champion hawkish, often "pro-Israel" policies and, not infrequently, rattle off Islamophobic blogposts."[53]

This is what you read for a "fair and balanced" opinion. Paranoia at the least!



I am VERY Pro Israel.

AND I am very afraid of Islamic extremists and so would anyone be who is aware of this weeks events.

dbussone
09-28-2014, 04:31 PM
I am VERY Pro Israel.



AND I am very afraid of Islamic extremists and so would anyone be who is aware of this weeks events.


Absolutely on both items. The latter is extremely unsettling yet so many portray our concerns as paranoia and even racist.

Rags123
09-28-2014, 05:12 PM
A number of years ago I read a book that told in detail the story of the gassing of the Tokyo subway in 1995. It was done by a religious sect They unleashed sarin gas.

My biggest take away was while this group was planning and searching, their thrust was to use a nuclear weapon on the subway, and what was shocking....nuclear weapons were in fact available. Many, because of the timing, were available due to so many missing weapons from the USSR. The only thing that stopped them and sent them to gas was their timeline and having trouble coming up with the money.

Now, given we have Iran who has been stalling the USA for a few years now and with whom we still are talking about some sort of agreement, has the capability and the product and given we now have terrorist groups WITH LOTS OF MONEY, and there now exists much smaller delivery systems it would be my opinion, that should any of the disasters posted here as a fear ever took place, the devastation would be so great and the loss of life so terrible, no planning would help.

I also believe that IF something like this would occur, it might not be the ISIS of the world....it could very well be a smaller group as was the group in Japan in 1995.

Marshall law could well be deployed in such an occurence and I offer this because in my thinking, THIS is how any kind of massive attack might take place. Not necessarily in a subway, although we just recently heard talk of such a thing, but anywhere where this kind of WMD could be delivered to make the most damage.

There is so much hate right now in this world. Democrats hate Republicans, blacks hate whites and vice versa......I use those two because they are internal and real and again, not outside the realm of possiblity because we see that hate flame fanned each and every day.

With all the money some groups are able to get...and the hate..all that is missing is the availability and the group in Tokyo were able to go to the "black market" and actually find such things. With ebola in the news, I am not in the weaponary business but could that be delivered with a weapon to cause mass destruction ?

It is a scary world and those who say "chicken little" are kidding themselves. It CAN be done.

Patty55
09-28-2014, 06:45 PM
With all the recent military cutbacks do we even have the manpower for nationwide martial law? I'm not going to lose sleep worrying about this.

DaleMN
09-29-2014, 10:47 AM
I think it is gradualism. That is what it looks like is happening now. Does that bother anyone.

It bothers me that you actually believe it. :doh:

TexaninVA
09-29-2014, 11:30 AM
It bothers me that you actually believe it. :doh:

I think there is clearly a gradualism of increasing Federal intervention occurring ... not martial law per se obviously.

Just take a look at the IRS, EPA, etc ... you may agree / disagree with their policy objectives, but the reach of regulatory control especially is objectively expanding. That may be what the poster was referring to.

Gulfhills
09-29-2014, 01:59 PM
Thank you for an excellent resource. It feels less lonely knowing that others know what you know.

I agree....thanks!!