View Full Version : Lost my comcast HD thru the wall
michtofla
09-26-2014, 10:13 PM
I've been getting comcast HD thru the wall without any adapter for many years. Now it seems to be gone. Did Comcast quit broadcasting HD unscrambled thru the wall. I thought that they legally had to provide HD for all local stations. Anybody else have this problem?o
Villager Audio Video
09-26-2014, 10:40 PM
Ya, they locked it down yesterday. All stations are now scrambled /encrypted :(
michtofla
09-27-2014, 08:31 AM
Well I hated Comcast before and now I really hate them. Time for a change.
rubicon
09-27-2014, 08:40 AM
Well I hated Comcast before and now I really hate them. Time for a change.
In all fairness I bet they may not be enamored by HD through the wall people
MikeV
09-27-2014, 08:46 AM
In all fairness I bet they may not be enamored by HD through the wall people
Good one :bowdown:
blueash
09-28-2014, 01:54 PM
Same situation for me, splitter plus A/B switch as described on Comcast's own website for reception of HD directly thru the wall
Connect a Standard Definition Digital Transport Adapter to an HDTV (http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/cable-tv/connecting-digital-adapter-to-hdtv)
I both did online chat and phone with 4 different agents and all tell me there has absolutely been no change in our service and that I should still be receiving HD via the splitter. Just another example of Comcast having no idea what Comcast is doing. I did however not enjoy the chat agent attempting to tell me I was stealing HD as I did not subscribe to HD service, until I sent her to Comcast's own instructions on how to do it. She did not apologize, just moved on to not help me.
Bavarian
09-28-2014, 02:23 PM
I only use Comcast for INTERNET, DirecTv for Television. I do not see why anyone of them should charge extra for HD nowadays. HD is here and soon to become obsolete with 4K. Told DirecTv that, they did not care. At least DirecTv has HD on same numbers.
JMike
09-28-2014, 03:04 PM
All of my channels came back after I rescanned.
michtofla
09-28-2014, 05:27 PM
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. I rescanned and they all came back also.
michtofla
09-28-2014, 06:02 PM
I scanned my channels again like the guy described and got all the HD channels back. Try it!
anne1golfer
09-28-2014, 06:34 PM
are you getting HD for the same price as digital through Comcast? I'm paying a wallet full through Century Link!
Villager Audio Video
09-28-2014, 09:27 PM
I can't believe it but it worked. Not sure why but let's not look a gift horse in the mouth...
villages07
09-29-2014, 06:58 AM
All of my channels came back after I rescanned.
Yey!!! Thanks JMike for the tip .... rescanning brought back the channels. No need to go back to Comcast customer service hell for now.
Miles42
09-29-2014, 07:33 AM
Awesome I gave it a try on a added TV and worked great.
Jamescarriker
09-29-2014, 08:39 AM
How do you rescan?
TNLAKEPANDA
09-29-2014, 09:07 AM
When I first read the post I thought you threw your Comcast box through the wall!
That sounded exciting to say the least.
Bonnevie
09-29-2014, 09:17 AM
I called Comcast too before I thought to rescan it. They told me now way to get anything without the adapter. Then I thought to rescan and they are back, in 1080 (which is better than I get with the box)
zcaveman
11-20-2014, 08:39 AM
I have a question about the DTA box and HD. I still do not get them but that is because my DTA box will not let me select a station in the 400 range which is where my HD stations exist.
Am I missing something or did I miss a step?
I have a splitter coming out of the DTA box. One side goes directly into the TV and the second side goes thru a DVD/VCR into the Component in (red/white/yellow) connection.
I do not have the A/B switch in the configuration since I cannot get the DTA box to select the 400 range.
Any info will help.
Z
Villager Audio Video
11-20-2014, 08:45 AM
The DTA is NOT high definition. If you want an HD feed from Comcast you need an HD box ($10 per month) or take the cable out of the wall, screw it straight into the tuner input on the back of your TV and scan for channels. You'll end up with 62 digital channels with all the major networks in high definition for free.
Call me if you have any questions
zcaveman
11-20-2014, 08:55 AM
The DTA is NOT high definition. If you want an HD feed from Comcast you need an HD box ($10 per month) or take the cable out of the wall, screw it straight into the tuner input on the back of your TV and scan for channels. You'll end up with 62 digital channels with all the major networks in high definition for free.
Call me if you have any questions
Same situation for me, splitter plus A/B switch as described on Comcast's own website for reception of HD directly thru the wall
Connect a Standard Definition Digital Transport Adapter to an HDTV (http://customer.comcast.com/help-and-support/cable-tv/connecting-digital-adapter-to-hdtv)
I both did online chat and phone with 4 different agents and all tell me there has absolutely been no change in our service and that I should still be receiving HD via the splitter. Just another example of Comcast having no idea what Comcast is doing. I did however not enjoy the chat agent attempting to tell me I was stealing HD as I did not subscribe to HD service, until I sent her to Comcast's own instructions on how to do it. She did not apologize, just moved on to not help me.
I can't believe it but it worked. Not sure why but let's not look a gift horse in the mouth...
That is what I thought but this post (Quote 2) from near the top says otherwise.
It has the cable out of the wall into a DTA box into a splitter and into the TV. I still do not understand the splitter part.
In fact, you even said it worked. (Quote 3).
That is why I am confused.
Z
ajbrown
11-20-2014, 08:57 AM
The DTA is NOT high definition. If you want an HD feed from Comcast you need an HD box ($10 per month) or take the cable out of the wall, screw it straight into the tuner input on the back of your TV and scan for channels. You'll end up with 62 digital channels with all the major networks in high definition for free.
Call me if you have any questions
When I was in MA this summer, my brother in law had an HD DTA from Comcast. I had never heard of such a thing until then. It was same cost as non HD DTA.
It is still not available here to my knowledge.
blueash
11-20-2014, 09:48 AM
You need an A/B splitter. You also need a simple 1 to 2 line splitter which has one input and two (or more) outputs. Run the cable from the wall to this simple splitter. Then run a cable from one output to the A input of the A/B switch. Run a second cable from the 1:2 splitter to the DTA device input. Run a cable from the DTA output to the B input of the A/B splitter. Run a cable from the A/B splitter output to the TV. Now what you have is a direct line from the wall to the TV via the A side which carries unscrambled HD signals. And you have all the other channels which need descrambling via the B side. Set the A/B switch to A and then use the search for channels function on the TV to find the available signals. Using the B side you will use channel 3 and tune using the Comcast remote tuner. Obviously you will need to manually change from A to B side as desired.
zcaveman
11-20-2014, 11:12 AM
You need an A/B splitter. You also need a simple 1 to 2 line splitter which has one input and two (or more) outputs. Run the cable from the wall to this simple splitter. Then run a cable from one output to the A input of the A/B switch. Run a second cable from the 1:2 splitter to the DTA device input. Run a cable from the DTA output to the B input of the A/B splitter. Run a cable from the A/B splitter output to the TV. Now what you have is a direct line from the wall to the TV via the A side which carries unscrambled HD signals. And you have all the other channels which need descrambling via the B side. Set the A/B switch to A and then use the search for channels function on the TV to find the available signals. Using the B side you will use channel 3 and tune using the Comcast remote tuner. Obviously you will need to manually change from A to B side as desired.
I will try that and see what happens.
Thanks.
Gordon82
11-21-2014, 09:00 AM
When I was in MA this summer, my brother in law had an HD DTA from Comcast. I had never heard of such a thing until then. It was same cost as non HD DTA.
It is still not available here to my knowledge.
I can understand why Comcast is slow to distribute HD DTA devices. Lots of people would swap their $10/month HD box for a $2/month HD DTA device if they were only interested in HD and not DVR, the channel guide, or some of the higher cable channels. That certainly applies to me for at least one of our TVs.
I think their strategy is to distribute the HD DTA devices in places where the signal is scrambled and you have to have a DTA versus a place like here where you can run the cable straight into the TV.
zcaveman
11-21-2014, 12:15 PM
You need an A/B splitter. You also need a simple 1 to 2 line splitter which has one input and two (or more) outputs. Run the cable from the wall to this simple splitter. Then run a cable from one output to the A input of the A/B switch. Run a second cable from the 1:2 splitter to the DTA device input. Run a cable from the DTA output to the B input of the A/B splitter. Run a cable from the A/B splitter output to the TV. Now what you have is a direct line from the wall to the TV via the A side which carries unscrambled HD signals. And you have all the other channels which need descrambling via the B side. Set the A/B switch to A and then use the search for channels function on the TV to find the available signals. Using the B side you will use channel 3 and tune using the Comcast remote tuner. Obviously you will need to manually change from A to B side as desired.
I made a diagram of my current setup and the setup with the A/B switch. Before I go through all the cable changes, I think I am going to run the cable from the wall into the HDTV and scan for the channels and see if that gives me the channels. That should be the same as using the A side of the A/B switch in your setup.
Correct?
However, what I do not understand is since the signal coming out of the cable is scrambled how is the TV going to find the channels without a DTA box?
Z
Villager Audio Video
11-21-2014, 01:10 PM
Try it, you'll end up with 62 unscrambled HD channels
blueash
11-21-2014, 07:52 PM
I made a diagram of my current setup and the setup with the A/B switch. Before I go through all the cable changes, I think I am going to run the cable from the wall into the HDTV and scan for the channels and see if that gives me the channels. That should be the same as using the A side of the A/B switch in your setup.
Correct?
However, what I do not understand is since the signal coming out of the cable is scrambled how is the TV going to find the channels without a DTA box?
Z
Because those channels are not scrambled. Please don't tell Comcast we have figured this out or they will scramble them. And Yes to your correct question
mrscrimefighter
11-22-2014, 05:57 PM
I am trying to get roku to connect but it gets stuck at local network. Anyone have any ideas?
Villager Audio Video
11-22-2014, 06:05 PM
It doesn't see any wifi signals?
mrscrimefighter
11-22-2014, 06:12 PM
It says it does and the signal is good or excellent, then it stops. It will work fine through a cell phone hot spot. Makes me think it's a router issue but I'm stuck!!
Villager Audio Video
11-22-2014, 06:13 PM
When in doubt, reboot...
mrscrimefighter
11-22-2014, 06:15 PM
Great minds think alike. Tried it repeatedly. No luck! Any other ideas?
Villager Audio Video
11-22-2014, 06:17 PM
Try changing the wifi security setting
mrscrimefighter
11-22-2014, 06:17 PM
How do I do that?
mrscrimefighter
11-22-2014, 06:22 PM
Actually I am giving it up.... putting it all back in the box and returning it. 4 hours spent and got nowhere. Thanks for trying
pbkmaine
11-22-2014, 09:47 PM
Mrscrimefighter, why don't you have Tom at Villages AV come to your house and troubleshoot? That's what we did. His prices are quite reasonable.
Mikeod
12-02-2014, 01:45 PM
OK. I connected everything as shown in the diagram from Comcast. Simple splitter from wall with one cable to DTA input and one cable to A-B switch. Second cable from DTA output to A-B switch. Cable from output of A-B switch to TV.
With the switch set to go straight to TV from wall, I scanned for channels and got a bunch, including HD. Switched to get signal from DTA and got "no signal". TV was stuck on channel 2 and wouldn't move to channel 3 because the scan on the direct line didn't show a channel 3. Finally got the TV to channel 3 and tried again, but same result. Rescanned through the DTA line and got all the channels from the DTA. Great!
Switched back to the direct feed and used the TV remote to try to tune to one of the HD stations (2-1) and got "no signal" again. Tried every other channel and no change. Re-scanned and they were back. Went back to the TV settings and used the option to add an analog channel to add channel 3 to see if I could then use the DTA without re-scanning. Nope.
What am I doing wrong?
Do I have to re-scan every time I switch between DTA and direct feed?
Villager Audio Video
12-02-2014, 01:47 PM
Try manually adding channel 3 (or 4) after a scan straight from the wall.
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