68 year old man from Pennecamp

[graciegirl]

arrested for exposing himself at two of the Villages pools. Story on the other site.

[manaboutown]

The news of sexual misbehavior in The Villages is tragically becoming rather old hat and ho-hum at this point. Unfortunately people can become indifferent to shocking acts, sexual or otherwise. This is no longer a joking matter, at least to me. It is now well over the top and gotta stop,

[rp001]

arrested for exposing himself at two of the Villages pools. Story on the other site.
That " other site" couldn't wait to publish it. Always sensationalism. Sex Sells

[graciegirl]

That " other site" couldn't wait to publish it. Always sensationalism. Sex Sells


The Daily Sun has been widely criticized on this forum for being only The Daily Fun.

[kstew43]

the villages is becoming a playground of sexy senior citizens....."dirty old men" and "loose old woman".....

The STD facts and the key parties could be true after all.,,,,

The sweet good parts of being here are being taken over by the reality of being here.....

[perrjojo]

I liked it better when we just had the "Happy Paper". All of this same stuff probably went on but we didn't get a daily dose of the dregs of society.

[rp001]

The Daily Sun has been widely criticized on this forum for being only The Daily Fun.
Our paper. I call it Pravda. I was speaking of the other website that seems to dwell on sensationalism.

[missypie]

Thank you Gracie for letting us all know. I would probably laugh at the guy hysterically as I was calling 911

[gomoho]

That " other site" couldn't wait to publish it. Always sensationalism. Sex Sells

Unless that "other site" encouraged the activity I don't understand how you can fault them for reporting. Reality is reality and should be reported as such.

[Bogie Shooter]

The news of sexual misbehavior in The Villages is tragically becoming rather old hat and ho-hum at this point. Unfortunately people can become indifferent to shocking acts, sexual or otherwise. This is no longer a joking matter, at least to me. It is now well over the top and gotta stop,

And, how do you propose this be done??

[KathieI]

And, how do you propose this be done??

Don't know what Manabouttown is gonna do to stop it, but I am going to unsubscribe to it. Doesn't tell me anything anyway. Just nonsense and news about surrounding areas. Never have thought it was anything special. I'll stick to the Daily Sun as I have for the past 6 years.

[tomwed]

Maybe he is ill. The same thing happened to Grandpa in Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman. You can find episodes of Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman on Youtube and see for yourself.

[LndLocked]

That " other site" couldn't wait to publish it. Always sensationalism. Sex Sells

As opposed to what ? ..... the very same stuff is posted on TOTV as soon as it is known and then commented on 6785 times. I have tried and tried to educate the posters on this board that EVERY TIME a comment is made, the clicker on the multitude of interweb sites that track interweb traffic (like google) goes up and up and in turn causes the story to be more wide spread.

As for the topic event ..... TV is a city of 100,000+ and it will have it's % of people like this .... just like anywhere else. Believe it or not, TV is not Disney World.

[gerryann]

I'm glad they report it. Personally, I would want to know if my neighbor is a pervert........creepy guy!

[dbussone]

As opposed to what ? ..... the very same stuff is posted on TOTV as soon as it is known and then commented on 6785 times. I have tried and tried to educate the posters on this board that EVERY TIME a comment is made, the clicker on the multitude of interweb sites that track interweb traffic (like google) goes up and up and in turn causes the story to be more wide spread.



As for the topic event ..... TV is a city of 100,000+ and it will have it's % of people like this .... just like anywhere else. Believe it or not, TV is not Disney World.


Disney has its problems as well.

[Abster]

As opposed to what ? ..... the very same stuff is posted on TOTV as soon as it is known and then commented on 6785 times. I have tried and tried to educate the posters on this board that EVERY TIME a comment is made, the clicker on the multitude of interweb sites that track interweb traffic (like google) goes up and up and in turn causes the story to be more wide spread.

As for the topic event ..... TV is a city of 100,000+ and it will have it's % of people like this .... just like anywhere else. Believe it or not, TV is not Disney World. The woman who just started this thread is no different than the other site. Why keep feeding all the bad news and then turn around and get offended when one makes a negative comment about the place. Craycray

[DougB]

I heard the old guy told police he was thinking about retiring from exposing himself.... but decided to stick it out for another year.

[Loudoll]

arrested for exposing himself at two of the Villages pools. Story on the other site.
I heard the case was dismissed for "lack of evidence" .:1rotfl:

[Sandtrap328]

Something I do not comprehend. According to the article, the man said it was only a misunderstanding.

How can being charged with exposing himself at two different pools be a misunderstanding? Pulling up his swim trunks after climbing out of the pool if they had drooped too low? Tucking in the squirrel after getting up from a chair?

If there were recreation employees at all pools full time who would check all pool visitors as they come in the gate - and to be available for questions and complaints - this type of incident could be nipped in the bud.

[yabbadu]

I liked it better when we just had the "Happy Paper". All of this same stuff probably went on but we didn't get a daily dose of the dregs of society.

Don:;t know where you lived before but I have seen this stuff all before everywhere I lived. Not aware of any paper that did not report this stuff!

[DougB]

Something I do not comprehend. According to the article, the man said it was only a misunderstanding.

How can being charged with exposing himself at two different pools be a misunderstanding? Pulling up his swim trunks after climbing out of the pool if they had drooped too low? Tucking in the squirrel after getting up from a chair?

If there were recreation employees at all pools full time who would check all pool visitors as they come in the gate - and to be available for questions and complaints - this type of incident could be nipped in the bud.

It's not that "big of a deal" that I want my amenities fee to pay for pool guards.

[missypie]

It's not that "big of a deal" that I want my amenities fee to pay for pool guards.

Totally agree.

[Bogie Shooter]

This is from "the other site report".

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According to written arrest affidavits from the Sumter County Sheriff’s Office, many of the people who had observed the alleged behavior were so shocked they were initially reluctant to report it to authorities. Some indicated they simply stopped going to the pool.
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Why the hell wouldn't you report something like this? I find fault with these folks.

[graciegirl]

The woman who just started this thread is no different than the other site. Why keep feeding all the bad news and then turn around and get offended when one makes a negative comment about the place. Craycray
These are your own words Abster.

"Sadly this place is no better than any other small town. It seems a lot of people bought into the idea of this being free of all bad. There are thieves, sex offenders, drug addicts and drunks. The best you can do is be aware of your surroundings and take the necessary precautions to afford yourself a safe environment. I do think the paper does all of us an injustice in not printing what REALLY is going on in the area. We continue to grow. With that growth will come many more problems."

[Skybo]

If there were recreation employees at all pools full time who would check all pool visitors as they come in the gate - and to be available for questions and complaints - this type of incident could be nipped in the bud.

That would be incredibly expensive! There are at least 72 neighborhood pools, maybe more by now.

72 pools x 12 hours per day x $8 hourly wage = $6,912 per day in wages for the neighborhood pools alone.

[Bogie Shooter]

Something I do not comprehend. According to the article, the man said it was only a misunderstanding.

How can being charged with exposing himself at two different pools be a misunderstanding? Pulling up his swim trunks after climbing out of the pool if they had drooped too low? Tucking in the squirrel after getting up from a chair?

If there were recreation employees at all pools full time who would check all pool visitors as they come in the gate - and to be available for questions and complaints - this type of incident could be nipped in the bud.

That would be incredibly expensive! There are at least 72 neighborhood pools, maybe more by now.

72 pools x 12 hours per day x $8 hourly wage = $6,912 per day in wages for the neighborhood pools alone.

I agree a lot of money, to stop something that isn't happening every day.

[cattywampus]

I heard the old guy told police he was thinking about retiring from exposing himself.... but decided to stick it out for another year.

The guy also said:

"It's another Beautiful Day in the Villages.
It's really nice out. I think I will leave it out."
.
.

[Loudoll]

[/COLOR][/B]These are your own words Abster.

"Sadly this place is no better than any other small town. It seems a lot of people bought into the idea of this being free of all bad. There are thieves, sex offenders, drug addicts and drunks. The best you can do is be aware of your surroundings and take the necessary precautions to afford yourself a safe environment. I do think the paper does all of us an injustice in not printing what REALLY is going on in the area. We continue to grow. With that growth will come many more problems."


Well played

[Sandtrap328]

I agree a lot of money, to stop something that isn't happening every day.

Yes, it is a considerable amount of money. It does not bother me as I do not go to pools too often but I have seen threads here regarding the pool crashers from outlaying communities and lots of posters were very angry at that. There was a thread about a man bathing at a pool, there was a thread about a drug user shooting up at a pool, and now a man exposes himself at two pools. Obviously, some people are very upset.

I proposed a possible solution. Are there any other possible solutions or is the consensus just to leave it as is?

[Barefoot]

..... the very same stuff is posted on TOTV as soon as it is known and then commented on 6785 times. I have tried and tried to educate the posters on this board that EVERY TIME a comment is made, the clicker on the multitude of interweb sites that track interweb traffic (like google) goes up and up and in turn causes the story to be more wide spread.
When I read the story in the online newspaper about the 8 AM public activity, I was really hoping no-one would start a thread on it, for the above reason. But there were two threads started, same topic.

[Barefoot]

Yes, it is a considerable amount of money. It does not bother me as I do not go to pools too often but I have seen threads here regarding the pool crashers from outlaying communities and lots of posters were very angry at that. There was a thread about a man bathing at a pool, there was a thread about a drug user shooting up at a pool, and now a man exposes himself at two pools. Obviously, some people are very upset.
I proposed a possible solution. Are there any other possible solutions or is the consensus just to leave it as is?

I think the anti-social events are few and far between.
I've never seen pool crashers or flashers.
Full-time Pool Police seem unnecessary.
Isn't there a telephone at every pool to report upsetting activity?

[Bonanza]

Just what we need . . . Keystone Cops at the pools! Come on, folks. Aren't we old enough to handle this ourselves?

Weren't there any men at the pool when this incident took place? If so, they should have stepped up to the plate. Okay. Let's say there weren't. Was each of these women a wus? How many women were there? I'm sure they had their cell phones with them. There is safety in numbers, you know, and they shouldn't have been worried. Surprised or even flabbergasted, yes.

Even though this man is a degenerate, I am of the impression that there were enough people at the pool that no one should have been frightened. Had I been there I probably would have laughed as I was dialing 911.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

That " other site" couldn't wait to publish it. Always sensationalism. Sex Sells

They simply publish what is in the police log like most other papers in the United States.

The Daily Sun is not a newspaper as much as it is a marketing tool for The Villages. It is a good source for finding out what kind of recreation activities are going on and a few feel good stories about residents, but it is no way a newspaper.

[mixsonci]

Well played

Just what we need . . . Keystone Cops at the pools! Come on, folks. Aren't we old enough to handle this ourselves?

Weren't there any men at the pool when this incident took place? If so, they should have stepped up to the plate. Okay. Let's say there weren't. Was each of these women a wus? How many women were there? I'm sure they had their cell phones with them. There is safety in numbers, you know, and they shouldn't have been worried. Surprised or even flabbergasted, yes.

Even though this man is a degenerate, I am of the impression that there were enough people at the pool that no one should have been frightened. Had I been there I probably would have laughed as I was dialing 911.
Well said, I agree totally. Also, maybe he is emotionally unstable and needs help.
Gracie.. loved your reply. You go girl!

[Bonanza]

They simply publish what is in the police log like most other papers in the United States.

The Daily Sun is not a newspaper as much as it is a marketing tool for The Villages. It is a good source for finding out what kind of recreation activities are going on and a few feel good stories about residents, but it is no way a newspaper.

I agree with your opinion that the Daily Sun is not a newspaper. It closely mimics many other things within our community. There is a sameness or almost cult-like look to TV that is apparent once you have been here for any length of time. No one questiones it and most people give TV accolades one after another. The repetition of the circles, the impeccable manicured grounds, the cookie-cutter look of the houses, the same landscaping regardless of the model home (don 't come home drunk), the piped in Fox News radio throughout each square. All these things are apparent and well planned.

Thankfully, the look has not only attracted Stepford Wives, but some really, really nice people!

[Cisco Kid]

[/COLOR][/B]These are your own words Abster.

"Sadly this place is no better than any other small town. It seems a lot of people bought into the idea of this being free of all bad. There are thieves, sex offenders, drug addicts and drunks. The best you can do is be aware of your surroundings and take the necessary precautions to afford yourself a safe environment. I do think the paper does all of us an injustice in not printing what REALLY is going on in the area. We continue to grow. With that growth will come many more problems."

SMACK DOWN !!! :eclipsee_gold_cup: :eclipsee_gold_cup:

[Walter123]

arrested for exposing himself at two of the Villages pools. Story on the other site.

TOTV is quickly becoming the "other site" with it's own arm chair reporters, judges, jury's and executioners.

[rubicon]

Well I'm not touching the Daily sun that can get you into a whole lot of trouble with both posters and moderators

However, it is abundantly clear that some residents have had their rose colored glasses cracked.

It is also abundantly clear that any 68 year old man that exposes himself needs therapy.

It is also abundantly clear that there are a (good -some- a few) number of weird people living here. You choose the quantity.

It is abundantly clear that The villages boosting by the developer residents, etc
was the "sticking your chin out"moment or movement and people in or out of The Villages can't wait to respond.

It is abundantly clear that Spruce Creek and Del Webb Spruce Creek and Stone Crest are not getting this kind of publicity. Why?

[graciegirl]

It is abundantly clear that Spruce Creek and Del Webb Spruce Creek and Stone Crest are not getting this kind of publicity. Why?
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Because those places aren't nearly as wonderful as this one and people aren't jealous that they can't live there.

Good Morning Villages!!!!!!!

[rubicon]

Here is another take

In the comedy monologue of Smiroff (sp) he says every country has a city it laughs at. In America its Cleveland. In Russia its Cleveland

Perhaps The Villages is becoming the new Cleveland?

Perhaps we all might want to reconsider our positions and do something positive in defending our reputation. I'll be several letters to the editor to the Daily Sun and surrounding area might help.

Just a fleeting thought. I do hate that The Villages is being maligned

[graciegirl]

We who post and read this forum have known that there are all kinds of people here. I realized early on that The Villages didn't contain similar people although we are all similar in age. (DON'T START Jbdfan)

We are just as different as our high school class, our neighborhood back home, the people in our church or club and the people we worked with.

We are a spectrum of people, and some are easy to get along with and some are not.

Some have a moral compass and some do not. Some are happy and some are not. Some are financially secure and some are not. Some are healthy and some are not. We all have different value systems and some put eating healthily at the top and some put looking good at the top and some put their homes at the top and some put their church at the top and some put politics at the top, etc. etc. etc.

We have chosen to live here but the rule followers are having to deal with the rule breakers, the Democrats are having to deal with the Republicans and the not so rich are having to deal with the really rich and the young-old are having to deal with the old-old.

One thing we have in common is that there are far fewer years ahead of us than there are behind us and we need to suck the juice out of every day and enjoy this life because none of us know for sure who will go missing tomorrow.

Most of us have found out after the fifty five years that is advertised as our entry point that illness, death, heartbreak, disappointments, huge wonderful surprises and happy events that we have lived through do tend to make us more aware of what is good and what is useful and what is important.

We have 100,000 odd, um, people to pick as friends. I wish you as much luck as I have had. Being surrounded and supported by people who enjoy you and support you at this time in our lives is...priceless.

If you are lonely or sad or shy, my coffee pot is on and all you need do is message me.

Be prepared that I honestly, thoroughly and sincerely love this place.

[Steve & Deanna]

Not good for him to express his....shortcomings...in such a way.

[Taltarzac725]

Not good for him to express his....shortcomings...in such a way.

This is exposed in more detail in the Villages Daily Sun in the Local section with the Public Safety Report on 10/07/2014.

Considering how many people there are in the Villages, we are very lucky to have so few incidents like this and over the last few years all of these covered by the OnLine source are also mentioned in the Villages Daily Sun.

[Gary7]

We who post and read this forum have known that there are all kinds of people here. I realized early on that The Villages didn't contain similar people although we are all similar in age. (DON'T START Jbdfan)

We are just as different as our high school class, our neighborhood back home, the people in our church or club and the people we worked with.

We are a spectrum of people, and some are easy to get along with and some are not.

Some have a moral compass and some do not. Some are happy and some are not. Some are financially secure and some are not. Some are healthy and some are not. We all have different value systems and some put eating healthily at the top and some put looking good at the top and some put their homes at the top and some put their church at the top and some put politics at the top, etc. etc. etc.

We have chosen to live here but the rule followers are having to deal with the rule breakers, the Democrats are having to deal with the Republicans and the not so rich are having to deal with the really rich and the young-old are having to deal with the old-old.

One thing we have in common is that there are far fewer years ahead of us than there are behind us and we need to suck the juice out of every day and enjoy this life because none of us know for sure who will go missing tomorrow.

Most of us have found out after the fifty five years that is advertised as our entry point that illness, death, heartbreak, disappointments, huge wonderful surprises and happy events that we have lived through do tend to make us more aware of what is good and what is useful and what is important.

We have 100,000 odd, um, people to pick as friends. I wish you as much luck as I have had. Being surrounded and supported by people who enjoy you and support you at this time in our lives is...priceless.


Gracie: Your words have the power to make us (at least me) reflect on life ... and how fortunate we all are having each other ... here in TV.
Our acceptance of our diversity helps everyone fulfill our dream here in The Villages.

[Walter123]

This is exposed in more detail in the Villages Daily Sun in the Local section with the Public Safety Report on 10/07/2014.

Considering how many people there are in the Villages, we are very lucky to have so few incidents like this and over the last few years all of these covered by the OnLine source are also mentioned in the Villages Daily Sun.

I agree with the highlighted area but starting threads like this seems like adding fuel to the fire. Really, is there any safety issue here? Why do incidents like this need to be relayed to everyone. It is NOT a public service message and it will not prevent things like this from happening. The only thing it will do is inspire copycats.

[tomwed]

Copycat flashing, I hope you're not right.
I remember how popular streaking was way back when with the same age group.
Brace yourself, it's going to be bumpy ride.

[Mr.Big]

Gracie, I could not agree with you more. This big, tall snowbird loves The Villages! Might be a frog someday. I can handle a few wackos. A lot of people think I'm a wacko!

[Bogie Shooter]

Just what we need . . . Keystone Cops at the pools! Come on, folks. Aren't we old enough to handle this ourselves?

Weren't there any men at the pool when this incident took place? If so, they should have stepped up to the plate. Okay. Let's say there weren't. Was each of these women a wus? How many women were there? I'm sure they had their cell phones with them. There is safety in numbers, you know, and they shouldn't have been worried. Surprised or even flabbergasted, yes.

Even though this man is a degenerate, I am of the impression that there were enough people at the pool that no one should have been frightened. Had I been there I probably would have laughed as I was dialing 911.

I don't often agree with you, however, you are totally right on this!:

[Polar Bear]

Did anybody really move to a community of over 100,000 people in addition to all the surrounding areas and think there would be zero bad apples and nothing nasty would ever happen??!!??

Come on.

[Bogie Shooter]

This is exposed in more detail in the Villages Daily Sun in the Local section with the Public Safety Report on 10/07/2014.

Considering how many people there are in the Villages, we are very lucky to have so few incidents like this and over the last few years all of these covered by the OnLine source are also mentioned in the Villages Daily Sun.

Glad you posted this.
All those posters that came before you that were bitching about the Daily Sun.....should take note. Maybe put a lid on it the next time.

[Taltarzac725]

Copycat flashing, I hope you're not right.
I remember how popular streaking was way back when with the same age group.
Brace yourself, it's going to be bumpy ride.

Police report another indecent exposure; same MO, but in Chester County - News - lancasteronline.com (http://lancasteronline.com/news/police-report-another-indecent-exposure-same-mo-but-in-chester/article_695e0da4-084e-51bc-9d8f-0ea7a1add08a.html?mode=jqm)

Maybe if this were a college town and the copycats were pledges of some kind and this was the 1970s?

I do see it does happen that there are copycat flashers and the report from Chester County suggests that one was a prank.

[bevlaur]

SO tired of the constant complaints about the Daily Sun! Don't you get enough of the "news" on the radio, the TV, numerous other newspapers, people talking, yadda yadda. If you don't like the Daily Sun, don't get it and you won't have to complain EVERY time something happens in The Villages that isn't reported in the Daily Sun.

[sunnyatlast]

I agree with your opinion that the Daily Sun is not a newspaper. It closely mimics many other things within our community. There is a sameness or almost cult-like look to TV that is apparent once you have been here for any length of time. No one questiones it and most people give TV accolades one after another. The repetition of the circles, the impeccable manicured grounds, the cookie-cutter look of the houses, the same landscaping regardless of the model home (don 't come home drunk), the piped in Fox News radio throughout each square. All these things are apparent and well planned.

Thankfully, the look has not only attracted Stepford Wives, but some really, really nice people!

TV also attracts people who've never built anything in their lives and didn't risk everything to invest in a business that is solvent and increases local tax base on unused pasture lands to hundreds of millions of dollars per year on into the future.

There are lots of nice mobile home parks around FL where TV haters can go and live cheaper and complain about TV from there.

"The Villages of Fruitland Park will generate “target” revenues that total more than $1.1 billion in a one-year sales spree that seasoned developers say is likely unmatched anywhere in the world. And that would mean a huge inflow of cash for a revenue-strapped city that hasn’t given its police officers a raise in five years.
How much cash?

Michael Prestridge, Chief Deputy in Lake County Property Appraiser Carey Baker’s office, said a safe estimate of assessed value on new homes is somewhere in the range of 85 percent to 90 percent of the sale price.
That’s around $850 million of new taxable value in Fruitland Park. Homestead Exemptions could reduce that amount to around $750 million.

Last week commissioners set the city’s tax millage at the rollback rate of 4.7371 per $1,000 of assessed value, which means new property tax revenues from the Villages of Fruitland Park could total more than $3.5 million per year.
This year property taxes will generate about $730,000 for Fruitland Park’s General Revenue Fund, which pays for ongoing services such as police and fire protection, street maintenance and the library.
The city’s total assessed value is $158 million—that’s less than last year, according to City Manager Rick Conner. The city’s 2014 budget is just over $5.5 million."

http://www.**************.com/villages-development-will-add-millions-dollars-fruitland-park/

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[Taltarzac725]

SO tired of the constant complaints about the Daily Sun! Don't you get enough of the "news" on the radio, the TV, numerous other newspapers, people talking, yadda yadda. If you don't like the Daily Sun, don't get it and you won't have to complain EVERY time something happens in The Villages that isn't reported in the Daily Sun.

This is reported in The Villages Daily Sun just not on the front page unlike some other news sources. These others often lead with whatever titillating scandal/crime/ etc catches their momentary attention. Some crimes do make the Villages Daily Sun front page but these are usually the very rare felonies committed in or near the Villages.

[Bonny]

Geez, and nobody got a picture of it !! :laugh:

Actually I love the Villages and I love my happy paper and happy people. When I was younger, I knew all kinds of unsavory people. The only thing different now is that they are older and some of them live here.
I personally want to give a little benefit of the doubt to the story. Maybe the man has some dementia going on or just some mental problems and it wasn't done maliciously.
Another day in the Villages. I think it's the spice of life ! ;)
Hope everyone has a wonderful day.

[Patty55]

I read somewhere, I want to say the online paper, that this guy has a history of this sort of thing and was convicted of it in 1990. Apparently he's just your garden variety pervert, out of 100,000+ people I guess there have to be some.

[PennBF]

One thing that makes The Villages unique are the many different locations the Residents have come from. There are many from the mid west who are easily offended and and have not been exposed to the real world, there are the ones from the bible belt who are also offended by some abnormal behaviors. Then there are the ones from New York City and other large cities who have been exposed to the various non social behaviors and understand the "nuts" that are out there and just go on with life. Anyone who has lived or worked in NY City would not become upset or take the time to write about it as it is to be expected when you recognize and have been exposed to the crazies that live in society. Life goes on..:laugh:

[manaboutown]

Geez, and nobody got a picture of it !! :laugh:


Maybe someone did but they would need to get it enlarged.

OK, how about a drink named for this one? Put a Vienna Sausage in a glass of vodka and call it the Weenie Wagger?

[Patty55]

Actually someone may have but they would need to get it enlarged.

OK, how about a drink named for this one? Put a Vienna Sausage in a glass of vodka and call it the Weenie Wagger?

Or how about a SILLY WILLY (straight up)?

[QueenBee1]

Well said Gracie Girl, and oh so true, you have an elegant way of putting all into perspective!

[George Bieniaszek]

I am not defending this guy first off. What he did is disgusting and if he wants to carry on with this kind of behavior, he should do it in the privacy of his own house and not out in the open.

Just have to share an experience that happened at the Pennecamp Pool with my daughter and her husband. We had a family joke that now that she turned 30, she was old enough to go to the Pennecamp Pool. As they entered the pool area, all of a sudden all eyes were on them. She was wearing a very conservative 2-piece swim suit and her husband board shorts. Nothing provocative or in bad taste.

They got into the pool and the women circled around her and said that finally there was "new meat" to look at because the men at the pool had "No Butts". My son-in-law felt very uncomfortable cause they were looking at him provocatively and smiling. He swam away and was going underwater a lot to not hear the conversations anymore. Then conversations from the "ladies" turned to topics involving underwater "condom races" and other inappropriate sexual comments. After a short while, my daughter and son-in-law left and came back to tell us. My daughter stated that the men at the pool never made her feel uncomfortable, either with comments or prolonged looks, etc.

Needless to say, when they visit here, my son-in-law refuses to the Pennecamp pool anymore. They go to a nearby family pool i.e. Allamanda.

A different experience happened to us when we went to City Fire in LSL for some lunch. My son-in-law, the gentleman that he is, ran up and opened the door for all five of us to enter. He held the door open to three ladies that were following us into City Fire. One of the ladies asked " Is there a cover charge today?" just being friendly, he said "No, It was Ladies Night" just engaging in a friendly conversation, well one of the "ladies" said "Well here's my ID", and pulled her blouse down to show off her bra.

I read the story with some ladies going to the Pennecamp Pool area being uncomfortable getting their mail or walking their dog, and obviously I am sympathetic towards them feeling that way and everyone should feel safe going anywhere here in The Villages, obviously, still be aware of their immediate surroundings, but these two stories keep popping in my head of what happened to my daughter and husband at the Pennecamp Pool.

[Bonny]

Maybe someone did but they would need to get it enlarged.

OK, how about a drink named for this one? Put a Vienna Sausage in a glass of vodka and call it the Weenie Wagger?
:1rotfl:

[Bonny]

Or how about a SILLY WILLY (straight up)?
:clap2:

[rubicon]

We all indeed have our opinions. I asked my wife what she thought and she said: "I feel very safe here in The Villages much more than most places and some places that we have lived in the past." So the edict is in The Villages is a substantially safer than most places. I feel better already:pepper2:

[tomwed]

What he did is disgusting and if he wants to carry on with this kind of behavior, he should do it in the privacy of his own house and not out in the open.

I agree.

[Loudoll]

I read somewhere, I want to say the online paper, that this guy has a history of this sort of thing and was convicted of it in 1990. Apparently he's just your garden variety pervert, out of 100,000+ people I guess there have to be some.

After we closed on our house in Buttonwood, the sellers introduced us to our new neighbor who happened to be at Sumter Landing dancing. The first words out of his mouth? a lewd "joke". The sellers were embarrassed to death. So were we.

[Loudoll]

we who post and read this forum have known that there are all kinds of people here. I realized early on that the villages didn't contain similar people although we are all similar in age. (don't start jbdfan)

we are just as different as our high school class, our neighborhood back home, the people in our church or club and the people we worked with.

We are a spectrum of people, and some are easy to get along with and some are not.

Some have a moral compass and some do not. Some are happy and some are not. Some are financially secure and some are not. Some are healthy and some are not. We all have different value systems and some put eating healthily at the top and some put looking good at the top and some put their homes at the top and some put their church at the top and some put politics at the top, etc. Etc. Etc.

We have chosen to live here but the rule followers are having to deal with the rule breakers, the democrats are having to deal with the republicans and the not so rich are having to deal with the really rich and the young-old are having to deal with the old-old.

One thing we have in common is that there are far fewer years ahead of us than there are behind us and we need to suck the juice out of every day and enjoy this life because none of us know for sure who will go missing tomorrow.

Most of us have found out after the fifty five years that is advertised as our entry point that illness, death, heartbreak, disappointments, huge wonderful surprises and happy events that we have lived through do tend to make us more aware of what is good and what is useful and what is important.

We have 100,000 odd, um, people to pick as friends. I wish you as much luck as i have had. Being surrounded and supported by people who enjoy you and support you at this time in our lives is...priceless.

If you are lonely or sad or shy, my coffee pot is on and all you need do is message me.

Be prepared that i honestly, thoroughly and sincerely love this place.
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[Sandtrap328]

Upon reading the first posting on this thread, I assumed this was a recent event!

Reading The Daily Sun today, I see that the man reportedly exposed himself at a pool in April and September of 2013. He reportedly did it twice more in July, 2014.

The record from New Jersey was in 1990 (24 years ago).

He was banned from Villages pools in August, 2014 but without pool employees checking ID cards, still used them.

This is NOT news.

[Barefoot]

Did anybody really move to a community of over 100,000 people in addition to all the surrounding areas and think there would be zero bad apples and nothing nasty would ever happen? Come on.

A few bad apples, a few nasties, but nothing compared to most cities with 100,000 residents.
Sorry if I sound like Suzy Sunshine, but if we just focus on the positive, there is no safer or more beautiful place to spend our retirement years.

[tudacee]

When I'm in the pool, I don't wear my glasses. I go to the Pennecamp pool, so if the poor guy was wagging it in front of me, I sure didn't see it, LOL. Bet that gave him a complex.

[Polar Bear]

A few bad apples, a few nasties, but nothing compared to most cities with 100,000 residents...




Exactly. (That's what I meant to say, Barefoot. I hope it didn't come across wrong.)

[Barefoot]

A few bad apples, a few nasties, but nothing compared to most cities with 100,000 residents.
Sorry if I sound like Suzy Sunshine, but if we just focus on the positive, there is no safer or more beautiful place to spend our retirement years.


Exactly. (That's what I meant to say, Barefoot. I hope it didn't come across wrong.)

PB, it didn't come across wrong. I totally agree with your comment. It's naive to think that a huge city will be totally free of problems. I agree, there will always be a few bad apples with big worms, no pun intended.

[bettymg1866]

I am not defending this guy first off. What he did is disgusting and if he wants to carry on with this kind of behavior, he should do it in the privacy of his own house and not out in the open.

Just have to share an experience that happened at the Pennecamp Pool with my daughter and her husband. We had a family joke that now that she turned 30, she was old enough to go to the Pennecamp Pool. As they entered the pool area, all of a sudden all eyes were on them. She was wearing a very conservative 2-piece swim suit and her husband board shorts. Nothing provocative or in bad taste.

They got into the pool and the women circled around her and said that finally there was "new meat" to look at because the men at the pool had "No Butts". My son-in-law felt very uncomfortable cause they were looking at him provocatively and smiling. He swam away and was going underwater a lot to not hear the conversations anymore. Then conversations from the "ladies" turned to topics involving underwater "condom races" and other inappropriate sexual comments. After a short while, my daughter and son-in-law left and came back to tell us. My daughter stated that the men at the pool never made her feel uncomfortable, either with comments or prolonged looks, etc.

Needless to say, when they visit here, my son-in-law refuses to the Pennecamp pool anymore. They go to a nearby family pool i.e. Allamanda.

A different experience happened to us when we went to City Fire in LSL for some lunch. My son-in-law, the gentleman that he is, ran up and opened the door for all five of us to enter. He held the door open to three ladies that were following us into City Fire. One of the ladies asked " Is there a cover charge today?" just being friendly, he said "No, It was Ladies Night" just engaging in a friendly conversation, well one of the "ladies" said "Well here's my ID", and pulled her blouse down to show off her bra.

I read the story with some ladies going to the Pennecamp Pool area being uncomfortable getting their mail or walking their dog, and obviously I am sympathetic towards them feeling that way and everyone should feel safe going anywhere here in The Villages, obviously, still be aware of their immediate surroundings, but these two stories keep popping in my head of what happened to my daughter and husband at the Pennecamp Pool.
I have been to the Pennecamp pool on many occasions and this guy is ALWAYS by the front gate and is ALWAYS looking at any younger woman that enter the pool. I also agree that there is a group of women that are extremly inapropriate. I have chosen to go to another pool as well. Dont condemn me because I prefer to be in a more comfortable environment. I know MANY residents of Pennecamp that have done the same...

[kaydee]

The Daily Sun article stated that this dude was banned from using the recreation pools after the initial exposing and discovering his past offense. Well who made sure he didn't show up at the rec pools? Was his photo released at the time of his 1st offence of exposure? Makes me very uncomfortable to know that this creep could have been near me at the pool. Too bad his mug shot wasn't posted at all the pools.

[Walter123]

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[nitehawk]

[/COLOR][/B]These are your own words Abster.

"Sadly this place is no better than any other small town. It seems a lot of people bought into the idea of this being free of all bad. There are thieves, sex offenders, drug addicts and drunks. The best you can do is be aware of your surroundings and take the necessary precautions to afford yourself a safe environment. I do think the paper does all of us an injustice in not printing what REALLY is going on in the area. We continue to grow. With that growth will come many more problems."

:bigbow:

[graciegirl]

PB, it didn't come across wrong. I totally agree with your comment. It's naive to think that a huge city will be totally free of problems. I agree, there will always be a few bad apples with big worms, no pun intended.

Barefoot. Feel this hug.

[tomwed]

:rant-rave:I'M NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME LOOKING FOR THIS LOOSER UNLESS:
We each put up a dollar and whoever takes his picture wins all the money in the pool.
The code name for this contest: The Pennecamp Pool:rolleyes:

[snowbird22154]

"GUARDS"? at the pools..... Boy! I've just about seen and heard it all. Totally absurd!! and the people that agree with it ....well.... you get the picture!! :pray:

Just what we need . . . Keystone Cops at the pools! Come on, folks. Aren't we old enough to handle this ourselves?

Weren't there any men at the pool when this incident took place? If so, they should have stepped up to the plate. Okay. Let's say there weren't. Was each of these women a wus? How many women were there? I'm sure they had their cell phones with them. There is safety in numbers, you know, and they shouldn't have been worried. Surprised or even flabbergasted, yes.

Even though this man is a degenerate, I am of the impression that there were enough people at the pool that no one should have been frightened. Had I been there I probably would have laughed as I was dialing 911.

[manaboutown]

Why not provide a clothing optional pool for those wishing to sun more of their bodies?

[Chi-Town]

Why not provide a clothing optional pool for those wishing to sun more of their bodies?
Don't forget the pool cam.

[mgjim]

Believe it or not, TV is not Disney World.

Wait, what?

[Bill Tasker]

Awww, remember the good ole days of TV when the worse thing that happened was someone was over served and had to go home in TV taxi?

[graciegirl]

Awww, remember the good ole days of TV when the worse thing that happened was someone was over served and had to go home in TV taxi?


Or couldn't get all 412 of their golf group seated at a restaurant? They had to wait, even if 411 were there already.

I look back and wish that was all we had to deal with.

[bettymg1866]

This guy was caught again at MVP in Brownwood!!! If they would give him a higher bond maybe this guy would spend a few nights in jail!

[tomwed]

It's about time the pervs are heading towards Brownwood. It's lonely down here.

[gerryann]

This guy was caught again at MVP in Brownwood!!! If they would give him a higher bond maybe this guy would spend a few nights in jail!

What's up with a $500 bond???? This creep needs to go away for awhile....far away and a long while!

[asianthree]

This is not a sight I want. burned in the back of my brain.

[mixsonci]

Awww, remember the good ole days of TV when the worse thing that happened was someone was over served and had to go home in TV taxi?

Does TV really have taxis waiting for someone who has had too much to drink? I need to make my plans now.:a040:

[Taltarzac725]

This guy was caught again at MVP in Brownwood!!! If they would give him a higher bond maybe this guy would spend a few nights in jail!

It is the Villages Daily Sun today. Out on bond again it looks like.

[rubicon]

This guy was caught again at MVP in Brownwood!!! If they would give him a higher bond maybe this guy would spend a few nights in jail!

Yea he told the cops he was just trying to pick up chicks. does that give you a sense of this poor guys state of mind.

Too many posters are too quick to defend The Villages. This places all of us at disadvantage. Simply stated these guys exist around the globe. We had a guy on one city we live in that lived on the main street and he would stand in his front window pulling the shade down to his belly button. when it was finally reported stories abounded of people reacting as if it were a tourist attraction. No one thoughtof defending the city. It is what it is

[2BNTV]

We who post and read this forum have known that there are all kinds of people here. I realized early on that The Villages didn't contain similar people although we are all similar in age. (DON'T START Jbdfan)

We are just as different as our high school class, our neighborhood back home, the people in our church or club and the people we worked with.

We are a spectrum of people, and some are easy to get along with and some are not.

Some have a moral compass and some do not. Some are happy and some are not. Some are financially secure and some are not. Some are healthy and some are not. We all have different value systems and some put eating healthily at the top and some put looking good at the top and some put their homes at the top and some put their church at the top and some put politics at the top, etc. etc. etc.

We have chosen to live here but the rule followers are having to deal with the rule breakers, the Democrats are having to deal with the Republicans and the not so rich are having to deal with the really rich and the young-old are having to deal with the old-old.

One thing we have in common is that there are far fewer years ahead of us than there are behind us and we need to suck the juice out of every day and enjoy this life because none of us know for sure who will go missing tomorrow.

Most of us have found out after the fifty five years that is advertised as our entry point that illness, death, heartbreak, disappointments, huge wonderful surprises and happy events that we have lived through do tend to make us more aware of what is good and what is useful and what is important.

We have 100,000 odd, um, people to pick as friends. I wish you as much luck as I have had. Being surrounded and supported by people who enjoy you and support you at this time in our lives is...priceless.

If you are lonely or sad or shy, my coffee pot is on and all you need do is message me.

Be prepared that I honestly, thoroughly and sincerely love this place.

:bigbow: :bigbow: :bigbow:

[2BNTV]

Arrested for the second time according to Friday's newspaper, (section C3).

Charged with "lewdness against an adult", back in New Jersey in 1990.

This man is a sick puppy who needs help. Whether he wants to get help, or is capable of it, is to be determined.

Third arrest should have jail time, No?

[2BNTV]

I like The Daily Sun, as it disseminates articles of interest, and one can plan their day for special events, that are posted.

I am from the tri-state area, and grew up reading about who was murdered, and who was raped, or robbed!!!! I can get that type of news form the internet, or just turning on the television.

I do want the happy news and occasionally will want to hear of the small crime rate, in TV. Nuff said!!!! The amount of incidents, as opposed to the total population, is minuscle! IMHO

The flasher is one out of 110,00. He will go away, or be arrested and get jail time, assuming he doesn't change his ways, of "putting it out there". :D

A very small, and sad affair.

[manaboutown]

Howe now qualifies as a Frequent Flasher. It seems there are benefits for that, such as only $500 bail.

[quirky3]

Maybe he was just confused about the time and place for this recently posted event:
"Bright at Night safety flashers to be offered Thursday at Market Square" :icon_wink:

[Wandatime]

At our age we've all seen one -- maybe more. No big deal. :icon_wink:

I was a cocktail waitress or bartender on the side for many of my "poor years." Needless to say, idiots like this one abounded. A cocked (seriously, I couldn't think of a different word!) eyebrow and a stern, "Quit being a dumbass" worked for 99.99% of all situations.

[tomwed]

He's just a little mixed up............................................
And I deleted a lot of what I wrote. It was a mistake. I started thinking what if this cought on and lot's of people started sunbathing naked and skinny dipping. Right now it's just a flash in the pan.

[manaboutown]

The important thing is not to go off half-cocked about such an occurrence.

[gerryann]

Please give the guy a break and listen to the open hearted. He's not hurting any children. He's just a little mixed up. "There but for the grace of God go I". Shouldn't that be the Village mantra?

Seriously? Really???

[ping]

Cheap thrills by any individual, regardless of mental reasons, cheapens the Villages. That is all we are famous for....sex at the squares, at the pools!

[Gerald]

First of all thanks for the laugh. Second if you see anyone doing things like that simply call the police. Tell everyone around the person at the area. Some times a large group can help the person to the hospital. Where he will get care for all the accidental pain caused while helping.

[tomwed]

I was the thinking the other day "Why would I want my own personal pool if all I have to do is go to a neighborhood pool?" Because it's more private.

Now if I'm a 68 year old pool salesman wanting to drum up business...................

[Barefoot]

Originally Posted by tomwed
Please give the guy a break and listen to the open hearted. He's not hurting any children. He's just a little mixed up. "There but for the grace of God go I". Shouldn't that be the Village mantra?

Originally posted by Gerryann
Seriously? Really???
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I really believe in the adage "There but for the grace of God, go I".
And I agree that it should be the Villages mantra in most cases.
But not if people are mentally ill; then then they need treatment, not sympathy.

As I understand it, this guy has been flashing not only at pools, but also in the MVP parking lot.
Tom, you say he isn't hurting any children, but how do you know where he will be flashing next?
If the facts stated in the online newspaper are correct, he obviously needs some type of mental reconditioning.

[Walt.]

I guess this guy is an owner. If he was a renter this would have been a load of posts pointing out the need for renters to have background checks. As we all know... it is only renters who drive poorly, litter, and do all the bad stuff...

[tomwed]

Originally Posted by tomwed
Please give the guy a break and listen to the open hearted. He's not hurting any children. He's just a little mixed up. "There but for the grace of God go I". Shouldn't that be the Village mantra?

Originally posted by Gerryann
Seriously? Really???
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I really believe in the adage "There but for the grace of God, go I".
And I agree that it should be the Villages mantra in most cases.
But not if people are mentally ill; then then they need treatment, not sympathy.

As I understand it, this guy has been flashing not only at pools, but also in the MVP parking lot.
Tom, you say he isn't hurting any children, but how do you know where he will be flashing next?
If the facts stated in the online newspaper are correct, he obviously needs some type of mental reconditioning.

you're right

[Loudoll]

At our age we've all seen one -- maybe more. No big deal. :icon_wink:

I was a cocktail waitress or bartender on the side for many of my "poor years." Needless to say, idiots like this one abounded. A cocked (seriously, I couldn't think of a different word!) eyebrow and a stern, "Quit being a dumbass" worked for 99.99% of all situations.Ha ha...so right. Because I'm seriously hearing impaired I've relied on lip reading and close attention to facial expressions, etc. to communicate. Well, in a story that's a little like the bank robber in Woody Allen's movie who presented a hold up note that the cashier asked him to read for her, here goes:As I started towards a retail store door a young man approached me saying "do you want this?" and because I was studying him intently I didn't notice that he had his "member" in his hand. Not understanding him I asked him what? he repeated this mumbling, so I walked closer to him instead of hysterically running in the other direction. Finally he pointed down and asked louder, Do you want this? Bewildered, I just said no..and looked at him like Clint Eastwood would have.

[mickey100]

I agree with your opinion that the Daily Sun is not a newspaper. It closely mimics many other things within our community. There is a sameness or almost cult-like look to TV that is apparent once you have been here for any length of time. No one questiones it and most people give TV accolades one after another. The repetition of the circles, the impeccable manicured grounds, the cookie-cutter look of the houses, the same landscaping regardless of the model home (don 't come home drunk), the piped in Fox News radio throughout each square. All these things are apparent and well planned.

Thankfully, the look has not only attracted Stepford Wives, but some really, really nice people!

I agree. The draw for us is the people.

[mickey100]

Unless that "other site" encouraged the activity I don't understand how you can fault them for reporting. Reality is reality and should be reported as such.

Absolutely true.

[tomwed]

yes, i see your point, i also agree

[SALYBOW]

When a man flashes you, stare at his flashing then look him in the face and say in a serious tone. "I've seen better." That gets them to put it away. :cryin2:

[Polar Bear]

I agree with your opinion that the Daily Sun is not a newspaper. It closely mimics many other things within our community. There is a sameness or almost cult-like look to TV that is apparent once you have been here for any length of time. No one questiones it and most people give TV accolades one after another. The repetition of the circles, the impeccable manicured grounds, the cookie-cutter look of the houses, the same landscaping regardless of the model home (don 't come home drunk), the piped in Fox News radio throughout each square. All these things are apparent and well planned...


IMO, whether one perceives many of these things as negative is largely a matter of the observer's attitude.

[Skybo]

If this guy were to flash me, I hope I would have the presence of mind to kick him squarely in his exposed parts. And hopefully, when he bent over in pain, I'd be able to connect my knee with his nose. And then, of course, I'd call the police. No one...man, woman or child should have to be "exposed" to such behavior. Is he mentally ill? Perhaps...but I don't care. He is not a harmless person and we shouldn't have to put up with his "illness".

[tomwed]

Although the stereotype of an exhibitionist is a "dirty old man in a raincoat," most males arrested for exhibitionism are in their late teens or early twenties. The disorder appears to have its onset before age 18. Like most paraphilias, exhibitionism is rarely found in men over 50 years of age.

Read more: Exhibitionism - children, causes, DSM, effects, therapy, drug, person, people (http://www.minddisorders.com/Del-Fi/Exhibitionism.html#ixzz3GsaiegUZ)

Anyone remember another person doing this in the Villages before?

[bettymg1866]

arrested for exposing himself at two of the Villages pools. Story on the other site.
I understand that his court date was yesterday.... does any one know if he was sent up to the Big House????

[Spikearoni]

What is the other site? Can you please give me a clue? I imagine that the editors do not allow you to give the full name..... Thank you.

[janmcn]

What is the other site? Can you please give me a clue? I imagine that the editors do not allow you to give the full name..... Thank you.

Just google Villages on-line news.