So what do you think - Is the spread of Ebola a form of terrorist attacks?

[DDoug]

Is the spread of Ebola a form of terrorist attacks, a new twist on fighting America. Wouldnt surprise me any thing is possible today. Crazy? maybe

[Walter123]

We were just talking about that tonight. It can't be ruled out.

[Colts Fan]

I think it's spreading due to globalization. In the future it could well be spread intentionally as a tool of terrorism. It might be more difficult to recruit biological bombers than to recruit suicide bombers usng explosives. Much less painful to die instantaneously than to die slowly from Ebola.

[eweissenbach]

The horror of a deadly virus being brought to America from overseas reminded me to wish you a happy Columbus Day!

[redwitch]

Think we'd be hit a lot harder and faster than we are if a terrorist plot. Sometimes things really are just horses, not zebras.

[eweissenbach]

Think we'd be hit a lot harder and faster than we are if a terrorist plot. Sometimes things really are just horses, not zebras.

You are refreshingly sensible Dee.

[redwitch]

Big difference in being concerned about an Ebola outbreak here or in Central or South America and thinking it is a terrorist plot. Denying one does not preclude the other. We do have the means to prevent Ebola from reaching epidemic proportions in the US. Africa does not. Nor do many regions south of us. So, yes, there is a risk. But I'll stand by my opinion that the cases we've had are not part of any terrorist plot.

[BarryRX]

Is the spread of Ebola a form of terrorist attacks, a new twist on fighting America. Wouldnt surprise me any thing is possible today. Crazy? maybe

Yes to the crazy...no to the terrorist attack.

[Rags123]

Big difference in being concerned about an Ebola outbreak here or in Central or South America and thinking it is a terrorist plot. Denying one does not preclude the other. We do have the means to prevent Ebola from reaching epidemic proportions in the US. Africa does not. Nor do many regions south of us. So, yes, there is a risk. But I'll stand by my opinion that the cases we've had are not part of any terrorist plot.

As I said in my post...I do NOT think a "plot" exists, however I note a very very flippant attitude about this horrible disease and hearing that you think we have the means to control it is great, but based on what ?

I pray you are right in your confidence.

[graciegirl]

Big difference in being concerned about an Ebola outbreak here or in Central or South America and thinking it is a terrorist plot. Denying one does not preclude the other. We do have the means to prevent Ebola from reaching epidemic proportions in the US. Africa does not. Nor do many regions south of us. So, yes, there is a risk. But I'll stand by my opinion that the cases we've had are not part of any terrorist plot.

I can't think how, Red.

I don't think it is a terrorist attack, but it is causing much justified fear and no matter what heat I took, If I were king, I would be putting barriers up RIGHT NOW.

[quirky3]

The horror of a deadly virus being brought to America from overseas reminded me to wish you a happy Columbus Day!

:ho:

[redwitch]

Ebola is transmitted via body fluids. It is not an airborne disease. Yes, there will be cases of Ebola here but not the outbreaks Africa has seen. There will be isolated instances. Yes, we should be careful but I refuse to be paranoid about this disease.

How many people do you think Mr. Duncan was in contact with before dying of Ebola in Texas? People on the plane, in the airport, in stores, the people he stayed with, the people in the ER on his first visit and then again on his second visit, the hospital workers who cared for him. So far, one person contracted Ebola from him -- a nurse who probably didn't follow all safety procedures when removing her Hazmet suit.

I delivered food to AIDS patients for many years. I even took my daughter with me. I made sure we used proper hygiene but I did not fret that we would get it. Ebola has a higher risk since it does not have to enter the bloodstream to be transmitted but I, personally, refuse to fret about it.

Now, talk to me about a possible terrorist attack on our water supplies and I'll agree that the risks are high. Talk to me about ISIL Americans returning to our shores with the intent to harm us and I'll totally agree that that scares. Talk to me about all the rights we've willingly given away for safety and you may need duct tape to shut me up. But I truly cannot imagine an Ebola epidemic in the United States (unless Rags is right that people will come here in droves if there is an outbreak south of us, which I do agree is a possibility).

[Sophie11]

that will probably die! She is getting a bad rap! The hospital was not equipped to handle this!

[Lauren Sweeny]

Droplets from sneezing,and coughing do fly through the air at tremendous velocity ( data states 3,000 microns at 39 miles per hour to 100 mph landing up to 30 feet ) on surfaces nearby . How long these droplets stay active depends on what they are composed of. Hepetitis last 16 hours on a solid surface sometimes up to 4 days! All the above data can be researched on Google or CDC site.

[Patty55]

Terrorism? No, I think if it was we would already be seeing more cases. I think we give terrorists way too much credit with questioning if everything is an attack.

[Walter123]

Terrorism? No, I think if it was we would already be seeing more cases. I think we give terrorists way too much credit with questioning if everything is an attack.

I don't know how people can be so sure that it's not terrorism??? NEVER underestimate the enemy. I say this, if it's not terrorism now, it very well might be in the near future. I'm glad that the government isn't sitting on their hands.
I'm not crying that the sky is falling but I also don't take anything as serious as this as a non threat. It is a real threat.

[graciegirl]

I don't think it is terrorism. I don't understand how ANYONE can make light of ANY conversation with Ebola in it. ANY CONVERSATION. Do some people think that any negative and worrying thoughts are political??????


My friend Susan who is a Methodist posted this animated video about Ebola on Facebook a few minutes ago. It is from The United Methodist Chruch and it is meant to make clear how Ebola is spread and is not "prayer-y" for those opposed to that. I am not sure it is helpful, but makes us remember that there are families just like ours in Africa.

Ebola is scary stuff.

Ebola: A Poem for the Living - United Methodist Communications (http://www.umcom.org/global-communications/ebola-a-poem-for-the-living)

[Patty55]

I don't know how people can be so sure that it's not terrorism??? NEVER underestimate the enemy. I say this, if it's not terrorism now, it very well might be in the near future. I'm glad that the government isn't sitting on their hands.
I'm not crying that the sky is falling but I also don't take anything as serious as this as a non threat. It is a real threat.

Just because it scares you doesn't mean it's terrorism. Sometimes it's just scary.

I don't think any of us know what this will be in the future but for now it is what it is... one man from W. Africa and one nurse who treated him. Why borrow problems?

[blueash]

There are 10 million people living in Sierra Leone and Liberia. The WHO is estimating , and estimates can be wildly wrong, that new cases may reach several thousands a week in the near future. At the same time, the WHO WHO | Are the Ebola outbreaks in Nigeria and Senegal over? (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/14-october-2014/en/) has declared the outbreak nearly over in Nigeria and Senegal.
At the same time today's audio update is found here:
http://terrance.who.int/mediacentre/presser/WHO-RUSH_Ebola_outbreak_presser_14OCT2014.mp3

[Villages PL]

Is the spread of Ebola a form of terrorist attacks, a new twist on fighting America. Wouldnt surprise me any thing is possible today. Crazy? maybe

No, it's not crazy. It could be used by terrorists. Here's how: First you get someone infected with Ebola. Then you put a suicide vest on them and send them into a crowded venue like a sporting event etc.. When the person explodes, blood and other bodily fluids will go flying everywhere. Can you imagine trying to clean all that up afterward?

[NotGolfer]

I just read a post from a nurse's perspective online and this disease sounds to be something we "should be" concerned about. It is a virus that is spread by bodily fluids---ie sneezing, mucus (think blowing nose, not washing hands then touching door knobs etc). She also said because we've heard it to be "over there" (Africa) and not here, we can compartmentalize it and tell ourselves it's because of their primitive way of living. That we're WAY ahead of them and it can't happen to our population. She also said it could be preventable here... I'd take that meaning to be that folks who have been in "those" countries should be quarantined before being able to return here. The disease begins much like a cold or the flu then goes into the really, really bad stuff. "Over there" the death possibility is 90% but here it would be 50%. I'm rambling a bit but this is her words... We need to be praying for this country in MORE ways than one. JMHO!

[Walter123]

Just because it scares you doesn't mean it's terrorism. Sometimes it's just scary.

I don't think any of us know what this will be in the future but for now it is what it is... one man from W. Africa and one nurse who treated him. Why borrow problems?

Scared? I didn't say that but OK, you call it scared and I'll call it concerned. You said it yourself, we don't know the future. We do know what this virus can do.

[Walter123]

No, it's not crazy. It could be used by terrorists. Here's how: First you get someone infected with Ebola. Then you put a suicide vest on them and send them into a crowded venue like a sporting event etc.. When the person explodes, blood and other bodily fluids will go flying everywhere. Can you imagine trying to clean all that up afterward?

As sickening as that sounds, a suicide bomber is a simple delivery system.

[Lauren Sweeny]

Please take the time to research ,not just accept TV or newspaper as total fact. The informational pieces are scattered in variety of data that once compiled give a better " big picture" of how it is spread, how we are truly not prepared for a national calamity of this type. Remember the influenza in the 1900's or the bubonic plague. Now we have more mobility and larger population gatherings( football stadiums and other venues) every individual needs to be prepared to isolate themselves and their family for the duration if it does indeed becomes epidemic.

[Bay Kid]

Maybe a terrorist attack from within for not trying to control it entering the US?

[Taltarzac725]

No, it's not crazy. It could be used by terrorists. Here's how: First you get someone infected with Ebola. Then you put a suicide vest on them and send them into a crowded venue like a sporting event etc.. When the person explodes, blood and other bodily fluids will go flying everywhere. Can you imagine trying to clean all that up afterward?

The trouble with that idea is that with globalization as it is, there is no way that ISIS could prevent it from getting to them as well. If we have a global pandemic like the Spanish Flu of 1918 it will get anyone no matter what their political, religious, or other beliefs. https://virus.stanford.edu/uda/

This sounds like proposing that the Global Warming problem is caused by terrorists. Global warming effects everyone.

I have more faith in our medical community than in the federal and state bureaucracies that regulate it.

[DDoug]

But then ISIS dosent care

[TexaninVA]

The horror of a deadly virus being brought to America from overseas reminded me to wish you a happy Columbus Day!

Do you ever get tired of feeing guilty about what your European ancestors did?

Do you think the world we now be a better place had Columbus stayed put?


Besides, the real lesson from the devastation of native peoples, and which is still applicable today (ebola, ISIS etc) is ... unless you secure your borders, you lose.

[kittygilchrist]

I don't think it is terrorism. I don't understand how ANYONE can make light of ANY conversation with Ebola in it. ANY CONVERSATION. Do some people think that any negative and worrying thoughts are political??????


My friend Susan who is a Methodist posted this animated video about Ebola on Facebook a few minutes ago. It is from The United Methodist Chruch and it is meant to make clear how Ebola is spread and is not "prayer-y" for those opposed to that. I am not sure it is helpful, but makes us remember that there are families just like ours in Africa.

Ebola is scary stuff.

Ebola: A Poem for the Living - United Methodist Communications (http://www.umcom.org/global-communications/ebola-a-poem-for-the-living)
I am watching Josh the WH spokesman STILL Minimizing.
We have a govt at least in delusion if not with an agenda to destroy.

[Rags123]

Do you ever get tired of feeing guilty about what your European ancestors did?

Do you think the world we now be a better place had Columbus stayed put?


Besides, the real lesson from the devastation of native peoples, and which is still applicable today (ebola, ISIS etc) is ... unless you secure your borders, you lose.

I would guess that should the POTUS secure our borders finally from certain countries, those who mock those concerned would be issuing kudos to our government instead of mocking concern.

[billethkid]

in my opinion it is not a terrorist plot.
If it were there would be much more contamination, by plan, than has occured.

What is happening here in the USA is beurocracy and CYA and politics and not wanting to hurt anybody's feelings are at play. We as a country have long forgotten how to play hardball ON ANYTHING!!!!!

The government needs to get the :swear: out of the way and let the medical professionals DICTATE what should be done.

There is no focus....no objective that is not politically tainted.

Why have we not hardened the rules for who is or is not allowed to come into this country??? Ebola will go the same route as the legal vs illegal alien invasion.

We are once again waiting to see what happens.

LEADERSHIP is the only way out....hence we are to flounder!!

The terrorists can just sit idly by and watch us deteriorate as we fumble around with ebola.
I also believe the terrorists are more instant gratification oriented...they want to see the explosion, the body parts, the death and destruction.......not a slow burining fuse.

[dbussone]

I just read a post from a nurse's perspective online and this disease sounds to be something we "should be" concerned about. It is a virus that is spread by bodily fluids---ie sneezing, mucus (think blowing nose, not washing hands then touching door knobs etc). She also said because we've heard it to be "over there" (Africa) and not here, we can compartmentalize it and tell ourselves it's because of their primitive way of living. That we're WAY ahead of them and it can't happen to our population. She also said it could be preventable here... I'd take that meaning to be that folks who have been in "those" countries should be quarantined before being able to return here. The disease begins much like a cold or the flu then goes into the really, really bad stuff. "Over there" the death possibility is 90% but here it would be 50%. I'm rambling a bit but this is her words... We need to be praying for this country in MORE ways than one. JMHO!


I agree we should be praying. BUT we should also be minimizing travel to and from West Africa....as well as really closing down illegal traffic across our boarders. I know this is a thread about Ebola but also note that the enters iris currently running amuck here was brought across the boarder by hordes of illegal kids. (Per research by epidemiologists.)

[dbussone]

I agree we should be praying. BUT we should also be minimizing travel to and from West Africa....as well as really closing down illegal traffic across our boarders. I know this is a thread about Ebola but also note that the enters iris currently running amuck here was brought across the boarder by hordes of illegal kids. (Per research by epidemiologists.)


Enters iris should be enterovirus.

[karostay]

Is the spread of Ebola a form of terrorist attacks, a new twist on fighting America. Wouldnt surprise me any thing is possible today. Crazy? maybe
Just natures way of reducing the surface population without war

[Cedwards38]

No it's not.

[Lauren Sweeny]

Just natures way of reducing the surface population without war


I am not much of a YouTube watcher but the stuff on there about " new world order" and the groups involved have made many references to population control. The monument in Georgia even gives population numbers desired by this group....makes me wonder....

[nitehawk]

Just natures way of reducing the surface population without war

I think you are right -- when too many trailers -natures way - hurricane

[nitehawk]

Black plague reduced the population by 30-50% After plague population much better off - two people had 5 children -- just natures way of population control

[karostay]

I am not much of a YouTube watcher but the stuff on there about " new world order" and the groups involved have made many references to population control. The monument in Georgia even gives population numbers desired by this group....makes me wonder....

whats you tube never watched one

[tomwed]

Take a look at Nova's Presentation. It's a week old so that means it's a little dated. click here (http://video.pbs.org/video/2365340607/)

[side topic] How do i embed the video link in this message? I see others do that with Youtubes. I always do "click here" thinking people will click and go to the video.

[TexaninVA]

Black plague reduced the population by 30-50% After plague population much better off - two people had 5 children -- just natures way of population control

Never ceases to amaze what some people think and say ..."...after plague, population much better off."

To put the 30-50% into context, this pandemic killed somewhere between 100-200 million people during the Middle Ages. In addition, total world population was then about 375 million. Today it's about 7 billion, roughly 20x larger.

So I guess if you were amongst the 30-50% that died from the Black Death aka Bubonic Plague, you were then NOT better off?

[Villages PL]

But then ISIS dosent care

That's right. Or, they might think Americans can help control an Ebola suicide bombing wherever it occurs in Europe and other places. And what does it do? It diverts our manpower and other resources; it will keep us busy.

From now on, any suicide bombing that occurs anywhere in the world will be suspected of containing Ebola. Will people help other injured people while waiting for medics to arrive? And what happens when medics arrive on the scene to help the injured? Will they have to wear special protective suits? Will they be able to do a blood test on the spot? How much blood do they need to do a blood test? And how long would they have to wait for a lab to have the results? Imagine the panic of not knowing.

[Villages PL]

Just natures way of reducing the surface population without war

You may have a point; it has been observed in animal populations. Overpopulations of animals have been known to crash. Usually by outstripping their food supply but it could be by disease too. And it has happened with people in the past.

I hope it gets eradicated soon because it's a disgusting disease. But if this doesn't bring a major reduction in population, it may just be a matter of time before something else does.

The reason is that there are so many people living in close proximity and there are millions of people traveling back and forth across the globe every day. In primitive times there were just tribes or small groups of people living far apart from each other.

[tcxr750]

I believe that it took a jolt to the comfort level of the average american to realize that the government and medical community should be prepared. Remember the good old days before the polio vaccine. Early on Swine Flu was a frightening term. Even AIDS has somehow been dialed down from the level of fear we now see over Ebola. Avian Flu would bring fear at one time. Now the CDC doesn't post updates about it.

[billethkid]

in days gone by there was not the DEPENDENCY on the main stream media and politicians 24/7.

One is working for ratings and followings. The other is working to get re-elected to their life time job.

The objectives of neither one have anything to do with the well being, educating and honest reporting of events of significance or concern to we the people.

[eweissenbach]

in days gone by there was not the DEPENDENCY on the main stream media and politicians 24/7.

One is working for ratings and followings. The other is working to get re-elected to their life time job.

The objectives of neither one have anything to do with the well being, educating and honest reporting of events of significance or concern to we the people.

Well said BTK