Why Ebola Dominates The News

[rubicon]

The simple answer is that those charged with containing this deadliest of deadly diseases have both past and present failed to show they are competent and hence the public at large just does not trust them.

"In 1948 the United Nations chartered the World Health Organization (WHO) granting it authority for directing internal health work.

Over 30 years it has shown a deteoriation for dealing with epidemics and on 4 occasions failed to deal effectively with major outbreaks.

In 1980 WHO underestimated the AIDS/HIV outbreak which prompted the UN in 1994 to create Joint UN Program on AIDS/HIV (Unaids)

In 2009 WHO was slow to respond to the H1N1 flu pandemic. an investigative panel in 2011 slammed WHO for lack of transparency, poor external communication, management conflicts and needlessly complex.

In 2010 WHO failures in dealing with Haiti's cholera out break that spread so fast because of bureaucratic bungling it reached Dominican Republic, Cuba and Mexico.

WHO today is dealing with Ebola which has spread to seven countries, a disease which was discovered in 1972 and where Dr. Piot founder of Unaid blames WHO's regional office in Africa calling it incompetent............WSJ 10/22/14"

As a side bar Ebola Czar Klain was the PR guy who instructed VP Joe Biden during the H1N1 scare to strongly emphasis to the public not to travel which about shut the entire world down and that the White House had to walk back.

If you note much of the news about Ebola is what the experts are doing or not doing and not the disease itself.

I opine other can decide

[NotGolfer]

Have you ever seen the movie "Wag The Dog"?? It's a comedy but think they really used a 'grain of truth' in it. Diversions, diversions, diversions!!

[sunnyatlast]

It's what Rubicon posted......plus:

"A statesman is concerned about the next generation, while a politician is concerned with the next election."

[Villages PL]

I think this is becoming an unhealthy obsession for some people who are in a panic.

Isn't it about time to look at the positive side of this issue? Nigeria was declared Ebola-free on Monday.

[dbussone]

I think this is becoming an unhealthy obsession for some people who are in a panic.



Isn't it about time to look at the positive side of this issue? Nigeria was declared Ebola-free on Monday.


Which organization made this pronouncement? I believe WHO. Go back a few posts and read all the issues WHO has had. I believe them...Not!

[dbussone]

The simple answer is that those charged with containing this deadliest of deadly diseases have both past and present failed to show they are competent and hence the public at large just does not trust them.



"In 1948 the United Nations chartered the World Health Organization (WHO) granting it authority for directing internal health work.



Over 30 years it has shown a deteoriation for dealing with epidemics and on 4 occasions failed to deal effectively with major outbreaks.



In 1980 WHO underestimated the AIDS/HIV outbreak which prompted the UN in 1994 to create Joint UN Program on AIDS/HIV (Unaids)



In 2009 WHO was slow to respond to the H1N1 flu pandemic. an investigative panel in 2011 slammed WHO for lack of transparency, poor external communication, management conflicts and needlessly complex.



In 2010 WHO failures in dealing with Haiti's cholera out break that spread so fast because of bureaucratic bungling it reached Dominican Republic, Cuba and Mexico.



WHO today is dealing with Ebola which has spread to seven countries, a disease which was discovered in 1972 and where Dr. Piot founder of Unaid blames WHO's regional office in Africa calling it incompetent............WSJ 10/22/14"



As a side bar Ebola Czar Klain was the PR guy who instructed VP Joe Biden during the H1N1 scare to strongly emphasis to the public not to travel which about shut the entire world down and that the White House had to walk back.



If you note much of the news about Ebola is what the experts are doing or not doing and not the disease itself.



I opine other can decide


Great post Rubicon. And right on point.

[billethkid]

It's what Rubicon posted......plus:

"A statesman is concerned about the next generation, while a politician is concerned with the next election."

100% on target!

I think this is becoming an unhealthy obsession for some people who are in a panic.

Isn't it about time to look at the positive side of this issue? Nigeria was declared Ebola-free on Monday.

That is in Nigeria where our leadership has had no hand in it. Congratulations to what the Nigerians accomplished.

It is a different story here in the USA. There is no consistency...there is no plan...there is no leadership...unlike Nigeria everything to do with ebola here at home is politically driven. The politicians only objective is re-election....NOTHING else!

[janmcn]

The irony of this whole Ebola situation is that the same people that want government out of their business are the ones that are now asking every government agency known to man to now come in and rescue them. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Take responsibility for yourself.

Stay off of airplanes. The plane you may be boarding in Orlando, or New York, or Chicago might have been carrying passengers from Western Africa yesterday.

Stay off of cruise ships. Cruises are notorious for having infections.

Stay out of hospitals, nursing homes, or any medical facility including doctor's offices. Any place where sick people congregate is where germs abide.

Stay away from crowds.

Stay out of public swimming pools. These have more than their share of bodily fluids...enough said.

A little common sense can go a long way.

[Villages PL]

The irony of this whole Ebola situation is that the same people that want government out of their business are the ones that are now asking every government agency known to man to now come in and rescue them. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Take responsibility for yourself.

Stay off of airplanes. The plane you may be boarding in Orlando, or New York, or Chicago might have been carrying passengers from Western Africa yesterday.

Stay off of cruise ships. Cruises are notorious for having infections.

Stay out of hospitals, nursing homes, or any medical facility including doctor's offices. Any place where sick people congregate is where germs abide.

Stay away from crowds.

Stay out of public swimming pools. These have more than their share of bodily fluids...enough said.

A little common sense can go a long way.

You are correct: One should take responsibility for oneself. Unfortunately, many have been taught that personal responsibility only applies when it serves to protect the junk food industry.

Death by heart disease: One every 35 seconds

Death by cancer: One every 56 seconds

Every six minutes one American dies in a hospital from a medical error or lethal infection.

Death by traffic accident: One every 12 minutes

Poisoning: One every 27 minutes

[billethkid]

The irony of this whole Ebola situation is that the same people that want government out of their business are the ones that are now asking every government agency known to man to now come in and rescue them. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Take responsibility for yourself.

Stay off of airplanes. The plane you may be boarding in Orlando, or New York, or Chicago might have been carrying passengers from Western Africa yesterday.

Stay off of cruise ships. Cruises are notorious for having infections.

Stay out of hospitals, nursing homes, or any medical facility including doctor's offices. Any place where sick people congregate is where germs abide.

Stay away from crowds.

Stay out of public swimming pools. These have more than their share of bodily fluids...enough said.

A little common sense can go a long way.

Really? How would we get our groceries?

[janmcn]

Really? How would we get our groceries?

Either go at 7:00am when the stores are empty or use a home delivery system.

[Villages PL]

Really? How would we get our groceries?

You can go the the grocery store and the risk is minimal. The point is, if you are worried about it, stay away from crowds as much as possible and stay away from places where sick people congregate. At this stage I wouldn't worry. And, if by chance things got a lot worse, people could wear some form of protection, or not.

[sunnyatlast]

The irony of this whole Ebola situation is that the same people that want government out of their business are the ones that are now asking every government agency known to man to now come in and rescue them. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Take responsibility for yourself.

Stay off of airplanes. The plane you may be boarding in Orlando, or New York, or Chicago might have been carrying passengers from Western Africa yesterday.

Stay off of cruise ships. Cruises are notorious for having infections.

Stay out of hospitals, nursing homes, or any medical facility including doctor's offices. Any place where sick people congregate is where germs abide.

Stay away from crowds.

Stay out of public swimming pools. These have more than their share of bodily fluids...enough said.

A little common sense can go a long way.

Bull. It's not about us who don't have to fly.

Our young military men and women have to fly on commercial flights when going to and from furlough.

All the pilots, flight engineers, flight attendants, baggage handlers, gate workers, etc. have to be on board the planes and in their ground positions.

The airport janitorial staff have to handle and breathe near soiled Kleenex, paper towels, soiled menstrual pads, etc., and so do the garbage collectors and haulers.

The TSA have to touch and breathe next to sweaty people and their belongings just gripped by people wiping their runny noses with their hands or who are emptying their pockets of their soiled handkerchiefs or tissues.

The nurses, technicians, doctors, firemen, and paramedics have to be on duty on the front line where infected people come first when they're vomiting, have diahrrea, etc.

The hospital housekeeping and laundry staff have to be in place to change soiled bed linens, haul the bins to the laundry, empty the bins and do the laundry.

Cafeteria workers have to handle and dispose of napkins people spit into and blow their noses on, and leave on the tray or cafeteria table!

And then possibly exposed, they go home to their families and nurses like the ones from Cleveland Clinic go back to work with their already sick patients who often are immune compromised.

Etc etc etc etc etc

[Chi-Town]

100% on target!



That is in Nigeria where our leadership has had no hand in it. Congratulations to what the Nigerians accomplished.

It is a different story here in the USA. There is no consistency...there is no plan...there is no leadership...unlike Nigeria everything to do with ebola here at home is politically driven. The politicians only objective is re-election....NOTHING else!

Nigeria has quite a history, amazing leadership may not be part of it.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-13951696

[janmcn]

Bull. It's not about us who don't have to fly.

Our young military men and women have to fly on commercial flights when going to and from furlough.

All the pilots, flight engineers, flight attendants, baggage handlers, gate workers, etc. have to be on board the planes and in their ground positions.

The airport janitorial staff have to handle and breathe near soiled Kleenex, paper towels, soiled menstrual pads, etc., and so do the garbage collectors and haulers.

The TSA have to touch and breathe next to sweaty people and their belongings just gripped by people wiping their runny noses with their hands or who are emptying their pockets of their soiled handkerchiefs or tissues.

The nurses, technicians, doctors, firemen, and paramedics have to be on duty on the front line where infected people come first when they're vomiting, have diahrrea, etc.

The hospital housekeeping and laundry staff have to be in place to change soiled bed linens, haul the bins to the laundry, empty the bins and do the laundry.

Cafeteria workers have to handle and dispose of napkins people spit into and blow their noses on, and leave on the tray or cafeteria table!

Etc etc etc etc etc



My post reflected what retired residents of The Villages can do to stay safe, not everybody in the world. I should have been more specific.

[Villages PL]

Bull. It's not about us who don't have to fly.

Our young military men and women have to fly on commercial flights when going to and from furlough.

All the pilots, flight engineers, flight attendants, baggage handlers, gate workers, etc. have to be on board the planes and in their ground positions.

The airport janitorial staff have to handle and breathe near soiled Kleenex, paper towels, soiled menstrual pads, etc., and so do the garbage collectors and haulers.

The TSA have to touch and breathe next to sweaty people and their belongings just gripped by people wiping their runny noses with their hands or who are emptying their pockets of their soiled handkerchiefs or tissues.

The nurses, technicians, doctors, firemen, and paramedics have to be on duty on the front line where infected people come first when they're vomiting, have diahrrea, etc.

The hospital housekeeping and laundry staff have to be in place to change soiled bed linens, haul the bins to the laundry, empty the bins and do the laundry.

Cafeteria workers have to handle napkins people spit into and blow their noses on.

Etc etc etc etc etc

I believe I just read this morning that those who were quarantined because they were on the same flight as one who had Ebola, were all cleared of having the disease. So flying is not dangerous. For those who don't have to fly, if they are fearful, don't fly!!

[TexaninVA]

The simple answer is that those charged with containing this deadliest of deadly diseases have both past and present failed to show they are competent and hence the public at large just does not trust them.

"In 1948 the United Nations chartered the World Health Organization (WHO) granting it authority for directing internal health work.

Over 30 years it has shown a deteoriation for dealing with epidemics and on 4 occasions failed to deal effectively with major outbreaks.

In 1980 WHO underestimated the AIDS/HIV outbreak which prompted the UN in 1994 to create Joint UN Program on AIDS/HIV (Unaids)

In 2009 WHO was slow to respond to the H1N1 flu pandemic. an investigative panel in 2011 slammed WHO for lack of transparency, poor external communication, management conflicts and needlessly complex.

In 2010 WHO failures in dealing with Haiti's cholera out break that spread so fast because of bureaucratic bungling it reached Dominican Republic, Cuba and Mexico.

WHO today is dealing with Ebola which has spread to seven countries, a disease which was discovered in 1972 and where Dr. Piot founder of Unaid blames WHO's regional office in Africa calling it incompetent............WSJ 10/22/14"

As a side bar Ebola Czar Klain was the PR guy who instructed VP Joe Biden during the H1N1 scare to strongly emphasis to the public not to travel which about shut the entire world down and that the White House had to walk back.

If you note much of the news about Ebola is what the experts are doing or not doing and not the disease itself.

I opine other can decide

I think you have identified the over arching issue ... lack of trust. The level of incompetence simply amplifies it unfortunately.

[TexaninVA]

Bull. It's not about us who don't have to fly.

Our young military men and women have to fly on commercial flights when going to and from furlough.

All the pilots, flight engineers, flight attendants, baggage handlers, gate workers, etc. have to be on board the planes and in their ground positions.

The airport janitorial staff have to handle and breathe near soiled Kleenex, paper towels, soiled menstrual pads, etc., and so do the garbage collectors and haulers.

The TSA have to touch and breathe next to sweaty people and their belongings just gripped by people wiping their runny noses with their hands or who are emptying their pockets of their soiled handkerchiefs or tissues.

The nurses, technicians, doctors, firemen, and paramedics have to be on duty on the front line where infected people come first when they're vomiting, have diahrrea, etc.

The hospital housekeeping and laundry staff have to be in place to change soiled bed linens, haul the bins to the laundry, empty the bins and do the laundry.

Cafeteria workers have to handle and dispose of napkins people spit into and blow their noses on, and leave on the tray or cafeteria table!

And then possibly exposed, they go home to their families and nurses like the ones from Cleveland Clinic go back to work with their already sick patients who often are immune compromised.

Etc etc etc etc etc

Wow, excellent post in terms of helping people visualize what some of the real world factors are that workers in various industries have to deal with. Had not thought about several example you mention.

I'll also say once again ... hats off and "Bravo Zulu" to the front line medical personnel ... doctors and especially the nurses.

[gomoho]

The irony of this whole Ebola situation is that the same people that want government out of their business are the ones that are now asking every government agency known to man to now come in and rescue them. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Take responsibility for yourself.
A little common sense can go a long way.

The flaw in your argument is people are not looking to be rescued - they are looking to be protected - which is the primary purpose of government.

[janmcn]

The flaw in your argument is people are not looking to be rescued - they are looking to be protected - which is the primary purpose of government.


One non-resident died of Ebola out of a population of 330,000 million. What would that percentage be? It's pretty good odds, but I will take my own advice and take responsibility for my own safety.

In a related matter, Amber, the second nurse to contract Ebola, has been deemed Ebola free and will be discharged soon, according to Emory Hospital where she has undergone treatment.

[dbussone]

I'm happy for the nurse, but I'm not sure what 330,000 million represents.

[Bay Kid]

The flaw in your argument is people are not looking to be rescued - they are looking to be protected - which is the primary purpose of government.

This will quiet down after Nov.7th.

[sunnyatlast]

"The irony of this whole Ebola situation is that the same people that want government out of their business are the ones that are now asking every government agency known to man to now come in and rescue them."

No, we want government out of deciding what maximum size the gas-station soda cups have to be, like we're too stupid to figure out we could buy two 16-ounce bottles when the 32-ounce cup has been made illegal--as the new ebola czar was involved in.

And we want government out of banning the use of salt by restaurant chefs/cooks in New York, when any half-decent cook knows that adding a teaspoon or less of salt to a big kettle of boiled potatoes or pasta will flavor it enough that most will not want salt shakers on the table.

And we expect the CDC, Homeland Security, State Department, Justice Dept., Secret Service and the presidency to protect us from foreign and domestic enemies like ISIS--who would drool over the scenes of sending an Ebola-infected suicide bomber into the crowds at the Macys Parade or another marathon, to blast his infected blood/guts all over hundreds of victims crawling on the ground and gasping for breath and looking for their childrens' legs.

[janmcn]

No, we want government out of deciding what maximum size the gas-station soda cups have to be, like we're too stupid to figure out we could buy two 16-ounce bottles when the 32-ounce cup has been made illegal--as the new ebola czar was involved in.

And we want government out of banning the use of salt by restaurant chefs/cooks in New York, when any half-decent cook knows that adding a teaspoon or less of salt to a big kettle of boiled potatoes or pasta will flavor it enough that most will not want salt shakers on the table.

And we expect the CDC, Homeland Security, State Department, Justice Dept., Secret Service and the presidency to protect us from foreign and domestic enemies like ISIS--who would drool over the scenes of sending an Ebola-infected suicide bomber into the crowds at the Macys Parade or another marathon, to blast his infected blood/guts all over hundreds of victims crawling on the ground and gasping for breath and looking for their childrens' legs.

Do you mean sort of like what happened in New York City on September 11, 2001?

[graciegirl]

No, we want government out of deciding what maximum size the gas-station soda cups have to be, like we're too stupid to figure out we could buy two 16-ounce bottles when the 32-ounce cup has been made illegal--as the new ebola czar was involved in.

And we want government out of banning the use of salt by restaurant chefs/cooks in New York, when any half-decent cook knows that adding a teaspoon or less of salt to a big kettle of boiled potatoes or pasta will flavor it enough that most will not want salt shakers on the table.

And we expect the CDC, Homeland Security, State Department, Justice Dept., Secret Service and the presidency to protect us from foreign and domestic enemies like ISIS--who would drool over the scenes of sending an Ebola-infected suicide bomber into the crowds at the Macys Parade or another marathon, to blast his infected blood/guts all over hundreds of victims crawling on the ground and gasping for breath and looking for their childrens' legs.


I understand exactly what you mean. I get it. I agree with you.

I am so glad that Rubicon taught me what a red herring is. I am learning so much about my own values and about debate and about what is important in my old age on THIS forum..

I know you are upset, Sunny. With good reason. And it seems the rest of the country agrees with you if you read the polls.

[rubicon]

:loco:No, we want government out of deciding what maximum size the gas-station soda cups have to be, like we're too stupid to figure out we could buy two 16-ounce bottles when the 32-ounce cup has been made illegal--as the new ebola czar was involved in.

And we want government out of banning the use of salt by restaurant chefs/cooks in New York, when any half-decent cook knows that adding a teaspoon or less of salt to a big kettle of boiled potatoes or pasta will flavor it enough that most will not want salt shakers on the table.

And we expect the CDC, Homeland Security, State Department, Justice Dept., Secret Service and the presidency to protect us from foreign and domestic enemies like ISIS--who would drool over the scenes of sending an Ebola-infected suicide bomber into the crowds at the Macys Parade or another marathon, to blast his infected blood/guts all over hundreds of victims crawling on the ground and gasping for breath and looking for their childrens' legs.

sunnyatlast: I believe that far too many people do not have a clue as to how much the government is running our lives. I guess it is going to take a Wlliam Wallace to wake them up FREEEEEDOM.

[JB in TV]

Speaking of Ebola news, I just read that a doctor who recently returned from West Africa is being tested for possible Ebola in NYC. :(

Doctor who treated Ebola patients rushed to NYC hospital | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/)

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/bellevue-patient-ebola-doctor-africa-hospital-nyc-280215302.html

[janmcn]

Speaking of Ebola news, I just read that a doctor who recently returned from West Africa is being tested for possible Ebola in NYC. :(

Doctor who treated Ebola patients rushed to NYC hospital | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/)

Doctor Recently Back From Africa Being Evaluated for Ebola at Bellevue | NBC New York (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/bellevue-patient-ebola-doctor-africa-hospital-nyc-280215302.html)


This could be our worst fears confirmed. Imagine how many people this doctor could have come in contact with in New York City and the flight over.
It could be almost impossible to identify probably thousands and put them all under quarantine.

[rubicon]

An article in the paper today explained that the Dallas Hospital that treated Duncan is experiencing a reduction in patients. The ER is empty and business/eateries in the area are also getting the same response

[Sandtrap328]

Ask yourself this.....are you ore likely to be infected or beheaded than you were six years ago?


...and once again, the answer is neither.

[TexaninVA]

An article in the paper today explained that the Dallas Hospital that treated Duncan is experiencing a reduction in patients. The ER is empty and business/eateries in the area are also getting the same response

Excellent point ... in fact, should additional cases of Ebola break out we will quickly discover that the "patient" most at risk will in fact the economy. It would not take much to throw sands into the gears of commerce to the detriment of us all. Let's hope fate, or Muslim fanatics, or some combination thereof, do not soon intertwine.

[TexaninVA]

Here is an article that explains how CDC has a wrongheaded focus on "social justice" (an oxymoron in any event) vs, applying sound science in support of the obvious to combat disease which in this instance would be to institute a travel ban. I term this most unfortunate mental paralysis "PCbola"

Infected by Politics by Heather Mac Donald, City Journal 21 October 2014 (http://www.city-journal.org/2014/eon1021hm.html)

[Chi-Town]

And we expect the CDC, Homeland Security, State Department, Justice Dept., Secret Service and the presidency to protect us from foreign and domestic enemies like ISIS--who would drool over the scenes of sending an Ebola-infected suicide bomber into the crowds at the Macys Parade or another marathon, to blast his infected blood/guts all over hundreds of victims crawling on the ground and gasping for breath and looking for their childrens' legs.

Impressive if not disturbing imagery. Kind of like a Walking Dead episode but scarier.

[graciegirl]

Impressive if not disturbing imagery. Kind of like a Walking Dead episode but scarier.

Not unlike the Boston Marathon. A villager's little grandson was blown apart and his sister had her limbs blown off.

I think her imagery is very possible, horrible as it is.

But this thread is about Ebola. Is it true that a New York physician has tested positive?

[maddie101]

Yes it is true!

[Chi-Town]

Not unlike the Boston Marathon. A villager's little grandson was blown apart and his sister had her limbs blown off.

I think her imagery is very possible, horrible as it is.

But this thread is about Ebola. Is it true that a New York physician has tested positive?

I had a chance to talk to Dr. John Cowin at the Florida Musculoskeletal Institute here. He was at the Boston Marathon and was involved in the early treatment of the wounded. His first hand account was something I will never forget.

[nitehawk]

I had a chance to talk to Dr. John Cowin at the Florida Musculoskeletal Institute here. He was at the Boston Marathon and was involved in the early treatment of the wounded. His first hand account was something I will never forget.

Has nothing to do with ebola

[JB in TV]

Speaking of Ebola news, I just read that a doctor who recently returned from West Africa is being tested for possible Ebola in NYC. :(

Doctor who treated Ebola patients rushed to NYC hospital | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/10/23/nyc-may-have-its-first-ebola-case/)

Doctor Recently Back From Africa Tests Positive for Ebola at Bellevue: Source | NBC New York (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/bellevue-patient-ebola-doctor-africa-hospital-nyc-280215302.html)

It has now been confirmed that this doctor has tested positive for Ebola.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/24/nyregion/craig-spencer-is-tested-for-ebola-virus-at-bellevue-hospital-in-new-york-city.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=1

"...Even as the authorities worked to confirm that Mr. Spencer was infected with Ebola, it emerged that he traveled from Manhattan to Brooklyn on the subway on Wednesday night, when he went to a bowling alley, and then took a taxi home.

[sunnyatlast]

Published in Foreign Policy - Aug. 2014


Found: The Islamic State's Terror Laptop of Doom

Buried in a Dell computer captured in Syria are lessons for making bubonic plague bombs and missives on using weapons of mass destruction.

"…...But after hours upon hours of scrolling through the documents, it became clear that the ISIS laptop contains more than the typical propaganda and instruction manuals used by jihadists. The documents also suggest that the laptop's owner was teaching himself about the use of biological weaponry, in preparation for a potential attack that would have shocked the world.

The information on the laptop makes clear that its owner is a Tunisian national named Muhammed S. who joined ISIS in Syria and who studied chemistry and physics at two universities in Tunisia's northeast. Even more disturbing is how he planned to use that education:

The ISIS laptop contains a 19-page document in Arabic on how to develop biological weapons and how to weaponize the bubonic plague from infected animals.

The ISIS laptop contains a 19-page document in Arabic on how to develop biological weapons and how to weaponize the bubonic plague from infected animals.

"The advantage of biological weapons is that they do not cost a lot of money, while the human casualties can be huge," the document states.

The document includes instructions for how to test the weaponized disease safely, before it is used in a terrorist attack. "When the microbe is injected in small mice, the symptoms of the disease should start to appear within 24 hours," the document says.

The laptop also includes a 26-page fatwa, or Islamic ruling, on the usage of weapons of mass destruction. "If Muslims cannot defeat the kafir [unbelievers] in a different way, it is permissible to use weapons of mass destruction," states the fatwa by Saudi jihadi cleric Nasir al-Fahd, who is currently imprisoned in Saudi Arabia. "Even if it kills all of them and wipes them and their descendants off the face of the Earth."…..

Found: The Islamic State's Terror Laptop of Doom (http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/08/28/found_the_islamic_state_terror_laptop_of_doom_bubo nic_plague_weapons_of_mass_destruction_exclusive)

[2BNTV]

Why Ebola Dominates The News? Rubicon

It has been proven that, "Bad news sells"!!!

[sunnyatlast]

Why Ebola Dominates The News? Rubicon

It has been proven that, "Bad news sells"!!!

It's also been proven that "Knowledge is power."

Power to take common sense precautions at a personal and national governmental level.

[Villages PL]

:loco:

sunnyatlast: I believe that far too many people do not have a clue as to how much the government is running our lives. I guess it is going to take a Wlliam Wallace to wake them up FREEEEEDOM.

Interesting point. I have a theory about what brought much of that about and would like to test it out in a separate thread. Not sure the best way to do it but I'll try. This may take a few minutes.

[billethkid]

It's also been proven that "Knowledge is power."

Power to take common sense precautions at a personal and national governmental level.

common sense at the personal level is certainly doable.

common sense at the national governmental level (political level) ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE!!!!! Would require acknowledging a difference between right VS wrong which is also politically impossible!!

[rubicon]

Well the United States as the dubious honor of having the most Ebola cases outside West Africa. Have you noticed that government has not mentioned the possibility of south border crossings to get around airport security clearances and the number of new cases in West Africa is being under-reported

[Sandtrap328]

Well the United States as the dubious honor of having the most Ebola cases outside West Africa. Have you noticed that government has not mentioned the possibility of south border crossings to get around airport security clearances and the number of new cases in West Africa is being under-reported

Don't forget the north border crossings. Canada and the US has a very long unprotected border. Those ebola infected jihadist suicide bombers can easily cross into Minnesota at Lake of the Woods disguised as fishermen on a holiday outing.

We never hear of that real possibility from the lamestream media, do we?

[janmcn]

Well the United States as the dubious honor of having the most Ebola cases outside West Africa. Have you noticed that government has not mentioned the possibility of south border crossings to get around airport security clearances and the number of new cases in West Africa is being under-reported

Ebola Death Toll Nears 5,000 Out of More Than 10,000 Cases: WHO - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ebola-virus-outbreak/ebola-death-toll-nears-5-000-out-more-10-000-n233776)


There have been four cases of Ebola diagnosed in the US - Thomas Duncan, the two nurses, and the doctor. Any others you can think of?

There have been 10,114 cases reported in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea, so yes, I guess you could say the US is second with four cases right behind 10,114 reported cases in Western Africa.

[rubicon]

Experts keep telling us its not a problem but the virus jumps and it changes depending on its host and so the anti-hysteria attempts create hysteria. People understand that they live with the threat of cancer, heart attacks terrorist attacks etc but it doesn't make it any easier when they believe their government can't stop an unknown( Ebola) popping up here.

Donald Rumsfield said:

There are known knowns
There are known unknowns
There are unknown unknowns
and
there are unknown knowns

Its a long way of saying don't jump to conclusions...viruses keep changing and so we have plenty of unknowns unknowns competing with known knowns

WHO CDC please don't exercise conceit exercise extreme caution

[sunnyatlast]

The big frustration being minimized and smokescreened is that the ebola carrier who brought it into the U.S. should have been denied entry to the U.S. without ebola even being in the picture with him:


"That is five strikes against his application (for a visa):

- Single
- Unemployed
- Liberian (5th highest overstay rate of any country in the world)
- Has recently resided outside of his country of citizenship, displaying weak ties there
- Sister living in the United States.

Together, all these factors should have weighed very heavily against the issuance of a visitor's visa to Duncan. He clearly appears unqualified."

Dallas Ebola Patient Was Another Visa Mistake | Center for Immigration Studies (http://cis.org/vaughan/dallas-ebola-patient-was-another-visa-mistake)

Worse yet, the government officials who could actually DO something immediately to limit travel from Liberia did not even listen to one of their own, fiercest voices--Rep. Grayson--in July:

"The dreaded Ebola virus has spread from the jungle into major cities in West Africa, and at least one American congressman believes it’s time to ban citizens of the three hardest-hit countries, as well as foreigners who recently visited them, from entering the U.S.

Rep. Alan Grayson, D-Fla., requested the travel ban in a Tuesday letter to Department of Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson and Secretary of State John Kerry."

Congressman: Close Border to Ebola Countries - US News (http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/07/30/congressman-close-border-to-ebola-countries)