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gomoho
11-04-2014, 07:44 PM
This is not a comment on which way the election is going, but a question if others are watching the results with the intensity I am.

GoldenHurricane
11-04-2014, 07:50 PM
This is not a comment on which way the election is going, but a question if others are watching the results with the intensity I am.


Yes...

njbchbum
11-04-2014, 08:21 PM
me, too...and reading articles on the drudge website as well - multi-tasking! ;)

tedquick
11-04-2014, 08:48 PM
This is not a comment on which way the election is going, but a question if others are watching the results with the intensity I am.

I'm new to TV. What are you watching the news on? And thanks.

shcisamax
11-04-2014, 08:48 PM
Me too.

njbchbum
11-04-2014, 08:53 PM
I'm new to TV. What are you watching the news on? And thanks.

Flipping between the talking heads on FOX and MSNBC
Reading results on the Drudge report website
Following FL results on WESH on-line

tedquick
11-04-2014, 08:55 PM
Flipping between the talking heads on FOX and MSNBC
Reading results on the Drudge report website
Following FL results on WESH on-line

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

tippyclubb
11-04-2014, 10:12 PM
This is not a comment on which way the election is going, but a question if others are watching the results with the intensity I am.

Yes, yes, yes! It's a very important election.

Turned out to be a wonderful voting day. The people have spoken.

wendyquat
11-04-2014, 11:29 PM
YESSSS! Now I can sleep better!:bigbow:

manaboutown
11-04-2014, 11:33 PM
I will sleep better than I have in six years!

tippyclubb
11-04-2014, 11:36 PM
YESSSS! Now I can sleep better!:bigbow:


Me too! I stood up and shouted with joy, we won. I'm so excited I won't be able to sleep.

billethkid
11-04-2014, 11:58 PM
YES!
Certainly aappears we the people have spoken in the senate and gubernatorial races.

MikeV
11-05-2014, 01:17 AM
It will be very interesting two years.

Challenger
11-05-2014, 02:55 AM
"Be careful what you wish for- you may get it":22yikes:

kittygilchrist
11-05-2014, 03:00 AM
Mormon Tabernacle Choir - Hallelujah Chorus - YouTube (http://youtu.be/skgrFTu6KTI)
Celebrate!

tippyclubb
11-05-2014, 03:43 AM
Mormon Tabernacle Choir - Hallelujah Chorus - YouTube (http://youtu.be/skgrFTu6KTI)
Celebrate!

Great post Kitty and the music was good too.

Finally, we have something in common. Republicans take control of the house and Senate. Yay!

GoldenHurricane
11-05-2014, 05:42 AM
Well, I may be the sole survivor of a dying breed.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_Republican

graciegirl
11-05-2014, 05:57 AM
i will sleep better than i have in six years!


me too!

jblum315
11-05-2014, 06:25 AM
Nope. Already know what the outcome will be. Magic 8-ball.

Topspinmo
11-05-2014, 06:56 AM
Well then, start governing in the House and Senate rather than obstructing. I've read the first item on the Republicans' new agenda is to impeach Obama.


I like how party has certain trigger words when their Dirty leader NEVER let house bills and amendments come to the floor For vote .What do you call that! They couldn't even pass their own agenda when they had both the house and the senate, But sure did seek some through the back door Most Famous Phrase "We got to pass it to see what's in it"

This county needs to Ban Parties. Biggest corruption, But in the end it's all about money, taxing, controlling money to there party, and under the table money from Lobbists. Lobbying should be Crime Just like robbing bank.

graciegirl
11-05-2014, 06:56 AM
In my life I have voted for both parties. I bet there aren't many who have voted for the same party all of their lives.

The two major parties have changed so much over time and because of a number of issues they both have become more polarized and seem unable to find any common ground even within themselves.

I am even a cafeteria MODERATE...and that isn't popular for sure.

The news media are always finding something to sensationalize and there is lots of fodder among politicians. WHO in their RIGHT MIND would put themselves in the position of being politician???

I would love to believe it is someone who believes in our country and wants what's best for all of us, but my fairy tale book has been unused for a long time.

We are faced with decision making about the lesser of evils it seems and we become less and less clear WHAT that is as we become older.

We are disrespectful of each other and scathing toward others views on this forum. We are skeptical and worried about what is happening to this country and the world.

I don't know the answers. I don't even know the questions.

TNLAKEPANDA
11-05-2014, 07:50 AM
We are still a very divided country but I think we may now get a chance to turn in the right direction. Hope and Pray.

rdhdleo
11-05-2014, 08:13 AM
In my life I have voted for both parties. I bet there aren't many who have voted for the same party all of their lives.

The two major parties have changed so much over time and because of a number of issues they both have become more polarized and seem unable to find any common ground even within themselves.

I am even a cafeteria MODERATE...and that isn't popular for sure.

The news media are always finding something to sensationalize and there is lots of fodder among politicians. WHO in their RIGHT MIND would put themselves in the position of being politician???

I would love to believe it is someone who believes in our country and wants what's best for all of us, but my fairy tale book has been unused for a long time.

We are faced with decision making about the lesser of evils it seems and we become less and less clear WHAT that is as we become older.

We are disrespectful of each other and scathing toward others views on this forum. We are skeptical and worried about what is happening to this country and the world.

I don't know the answers. I don't even know the questions.

Very well put Gracie!:agree:

Rags123
11-05-2014, 08:15 AM
Well then, start governing in the House and Senate rather than obstructing. I've read the first item on the Republicans' new agenda is to impeach Obama.

Please allow exactly where you read that "first item..." piece, and supply a link.

Thank you.

rdhdleo
11-05-2014, 08:16 AM
We are still a very divided country but I think we may now get a chance to turn in the right direction. Hope and Pray.

We've had chances to do that in the years past and nothing happened and those that hindered progress before just have more power to do so now, I'd like to think you're right but seriously doubt it.

redwitch
11-05-2014, 08:20 AM
I can't say I'm jumping up and down for joy but I'm not crying in my cups, either. Results pretty much came in as expected for me.

I am sorry the marijuana initiative failed. I know what a difference MJ made for me when I was going through chemo.

As to our governor, well, slime is slime and both fit in this category.

It will be another two years of obstructionist government on the national level. Again, nothing new there. Life goes on and, hopefully, things will not really change for the majority of us.

rdhdleo
11-05-2014, 08:27 AM
I can't say I'm jumping up and down for joy but I'm not crying in my cups, either. Results pretty much came in as expected for me.

I am sorry the marijuana initiative failed. I know what a difference MJ made for me when I was going through chemo.

As to our governor, well, slime is slime and both fit in this category.

It will be another two years of obstructionist government on the national level. Again, nothing new there. Life goes on and, hopefully, things will not really change for the majority of us.

:agree:

Rags123
11-05-2014, 08:27 AM
I can't say I'm jumping up and down for joy but I'm not crying in my cups, either. Results pretty much came in as expected for me.

I am sorry the marijuana initiative failed. I know what a difference MJ made for me when I was going through chemo.

As to our governor, well, slime is slime and both fit in this category.

It will be another two years of obstructionist government on the national level. Again, nothing new there. Life goes on and, hopefully, things will not really change for the majority of us.

I think replacing the leader of the senate, who created the logjam, will open up the country to real debate and forward movement.

Cedwards38
11-05-2014, 08:31 AM
Congratulations to the winners!

Madelaine Amee
11-05-2014, 08:31 AM
Well, I may be the sole survivor of a dying breed.

Rockefeller Republican - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_Republican)

No, you are not the sole survivor, there are many of us out there who would really like to see this country united and working together for the future of America.

Sandtrap328
11-05-2014, 08:33 AM
For those jumping up and down saying all bills will all come to a vote, remember any bill sent to the President is subject to veto. It takes a full two-thirds of the House and Senate to over ride a veto. That is not going to happen.

If bills look good but someone attaches a rider for repealling Obamacare, it will be vetoed. The President does not have a line item veto.

For those who say the President can now be impeached, yes he can, but it takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict him. It is not going to happen.

It actually looks like 2 more years of obstructionist government instead of both parties working together for a better America.

Madelaine Amee
11-05-2014, 08:34 AM
I can't say I'm jumping up and down for joy but I'm not crying in my cups, either. Results pretty much came in as expected for me.

I am sorry the marijuana initiative failed. I know what a difference MJ made for me when I was going through chemo.

As to our governor, well, slime is slime and both fit in this category.

It will be another two years of obstructionist government on the national level. Again, nothing new there. Life goes on and, hopefully, things will not really change for the majority of us.

What a sad and very appropriate comment Redwitch!

Cedwards38
11-05-2014, 08:37 AM
Congratulations to the winners! Let's all try to support them in the difficult work of governing us. It will be tough. This country is more divided politically, economically, and socially than at any time in my memory. The major political parties are too busy trying to trash each other and win elections rather than do anything good for the country and the citizens that need their leadership. The minor political parties are so out on the fringe as to be frightening. I'm sad that the mantra for Americans seems to be "what's in it for me" rather than "what's in it for us."

Nevertheless, let's try to come together and be whole again. Let's stop treating elections as if they were sporting events where winning is all that matters, which clearly they are not. Let's stop treating those running for office as if they were scum and criminals, which clearly they are not. Let's be tolerant of each other, work to continue the prosperity that we currently experience, and do good things for all Americans!

sunnyatlast
11-05-2014, 08:42 AM
For those jumping up and down saying all bills will all come to a vote, remember any bill sent to the President is subject to veto. It takes a full two-thirds of the House and Senate to over ride a veto. That is not going to happen.

If bills look good but someone attaches a rider for repealling Obamacare, it will be vetoed. The President does not have a line item veto.

For those who say the President can now be impeached, yes he can, but it takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict him. It is not going to happen.

It actually looks like 2 more years of obstructionist government instead of both parties working together for a better America.

Lack of line item veto is a major cause of the obstructionism regardless of which party's man has been president.

Madelaine Amee
11-05-2014, 08:43 AM
Congratulations to the winners! Let's all try to support them in the difficult work of governing us. It will be tough. This country is more divided politically, economically, and socially than at any time in my memory. The major political parties are too busy trying to trash each other and win elections rather than do anything good for the country and the citizens that need their leadership. The minor political parties are so out on the fringe as to be frightening. I'm sad that the mantra for Americans seems to be "what's in it for me" rather than "what's in it for us."

Nevertheless, let's try to come together and be whole again. Let's stop treating elections as if they were sporting events where winning is all that matters, which clearly they are not. Let's stop treating those running for office as if they were scum and criminals, which clearly they are not. Let's be tolerant of each other, work to continue the prosperity that we currently experience, and do good things for all Americans!

:agree:

Rags123
11-05-2014, 08:46 AM
For those jumping up and down saying all bills will all come to a vote, remember any bill sent to the President is subject to veto. It takes a full two-thirds of the House and Senate to over ride a veto. That is not going to happen.

If bills look good but someone attaches a rider for repealling Obamacare, it will be vetoed. The President does not have a line item veto.

For those who say the President can now be impeached, yes he can, but it takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict him. It is not going to happen.

It actually looks like 2 more years of obstructionist government instead of both parties working together for a better America.


Only time will tell, but getting rid of the wall in the Senate will open it up. I am hoping that all bills that go to the WH will be now discussed, instead of how it has been done, and be veto proof when it gets there.

There has been much, much room for compromise and the Senate was the main, and greatest impediment to getting things done.

Should not say the SENATE, because that implies that all members have been complicit....it is NOT the entire senate at all. The leadership just squashed totally all debate and ammendments that may offer compromise. His not being the head of the Senate, hopefully, will begin to show results quickly

PS.....much of my comment also applies to the House, where a very stubborn minority stopped a lot. NOW, with a larger majority, that group has lost its power and must comprmise

billethkid
11-05-2014, 08:51 AM
I don't see the senate change of control as "more" obstructionist when the lead obstructor will soon be out of the way.

I would like to see more discussion of the issues based on each issues merits or lack thereof AND ELIMINATE the tainting of everything based on party agendas.

Maybe that would allow more decisions to be made for the good of the country and less about politicians concern and obsession with re-elections and pandering to special interests.

Move back to the concept of right or wrong and not the wishy washy isolated magnifying of the grays!

Rags123
11-05-2014, 09:00 AM
I also think it is worth mentioning because of all the verbage wasted on the subject........in Utah, the state of Mormons and whites, a BLACK WOMAN REPUBLICAN was elected to congress.

She is a great story and everyone should read about her...Mia Love

PS..she is also Haitian American

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-05-2014, 09:16 AM
Well then, start governing in the House and Senate rather than obstructing. I've read the first item on the Republicans' new agenda is to impeach Obama.

They won't be obstructing any more. It's the Democrats turn to obstruct now.

Where did you read that nonsense about impeachment?

Chi-Town
11-05-2014, 09:26 AM
The election results should be good news for the energy, medical devices, and defense sectors. Think Keystone pipeline, medical device tax removal, and increased defense spending. No matter what views one may have our investments are what got a lot of us here.

manaboutown
11-05-2014, 09:28 AM
Sometimes the obstruction of destruction is the only course available given the circumstances. Hopefully the drain we have been circling can now be successfully plugged.

TheVillageChicken
11-05-2014, 09:45 AM
Positives for me....
No activist judges for the next two years.
Benghazi will finally get investigated.

buckscounty
11-05-2014, 09:50 AM
This is not a comment on which way the election is going, but a question if others are watching the results with the intensity I am.

Yes

Rags123
11-05-2014, 09:55 AM
Positives for me....
No activist judges for the next two years.
Benghazi will finally get investigated.

Here is a fear that I have ref Benghazi.

There are a few things that the WH does NOT want to gain momentum and would rather bury.....Benghazi, Bergdahl, the IRS situation are three as examples.

Will the WH "compromise" on some legislation come a a result of agreeing to "back down" a bit on some of these investigations ?

I certainly hope not, but that is how the game is played quietly to make things move.

Sandtrap328
11-05-2014, 09:56 AM
Lack of line item veto is a major cause of the obstructionism regardless of which party's man has been president.

The line item veto was signed into law in 1996 by President Clinton. It was declared unconstitutional in 1998 by the Supreme Court.

njbchbum
11-05-2014, 10:21 AM
For those jumping up and down saying all bills will all come to a vote, remember any bill sent to the President is subject to veto. It takes a full two-thirds of the House and Senate to over ride a veto. That is not going to happen.

If bills look good but someone attaches a rider for repealling Obamacare, it will be vetoed. The President does not have a line item veto.

For those who say the President can now be impeached, yes he can, but it takes 2/3 of the Senate to convict him. It is not going to happen.

It actually looks like 2 more years of obstructionist government instead of both parties working together for a better America.


For any bill to get out of Congress now and onto the President's desk it is going to have to be a bi-partisan effort in crafting it; therefore, full repeal bills will not be likely, and compromise will have to accomplish small steps such as repealing the medical device tax, etc.

Can we really expect the Chief Executive to veto bi-partisan legislation that accomplishes some of what he want to get done for his legacy? Imagine leaving office with the reputation of becoming the President of No? The ego is to big to permit that. The betting book will be about what bills get to his desk for signature!

Rags123
11-05-2014, 10:28 AM
For any bill to get out of Congress now and onto the President's desk it is going to have to be a bi-partisan effort in crafting it; therefore, full repeal bills will not be likely, and compromise will have to accomplish small steps such as repealing the medical device tax, etc.

Can we really expect the Chief Executive to veto bi-partisan legislation that accomplishes some of what he want to get done for his legacy? Imagine leaving office with the reputation of becoming the President of No? The ego is to big to permit that. The betting book will be about what bills get to his desk for signature!

You pegged it. Without the rule changes that Reid put into the Senate to snuff out debate and ammendments, they can get to business as it was intended.

Today, sadly, so many think of politics in terms of party, party, party which means it is like a sporting event. MAYBE with any luck, instead of looking at things like veto power, etc, we can start to look at the specific issues facing the country.

Now the Senate will allow ammendments, debate and all those things that have been considered ugly and un american for years.

ROCKETMAN
11-05-2014, 11:13 AM
The biggest surprises to me were a republican governor in maryland, mass., and illinois. No surprise the cover this morning of the new york post. President with a barrell around him and comment emporer stripped.

rubicon
11-05-2014, 11:56 AM
Many years of disappointments have taught me to "watch what I wish for"
And I believe that applies to Republicans. The mandate was not so much for Republicans but a signal that voters are sick of the gridlock and partisan fighting. The vote also was a strong indication that people did not much like Obama's policies and governance.

There are many things wrong with our political system and one glowing weakness is that politicians are always in a campaigning mode. So both sides already are laying out strategy for the 2016 presidential election.

You know that saying "I rather be right than president ". Well Obama adopted that strategy forgetting he was appointed to be president of and for the people.

He is in my view an obsessive and as such he will fight the Republicans with phone and pen. he will do whatever damage he can to get to get even with Republican with whom he blames for his bad performance and to support the bid for a Democratic president.

The Republican majority needs to be very careful on how they play their cards. I hope the Republicans leaders have been studying/practicing their best statesmanship because they are going to need these skills

Villages PL
11-05-2014, 12:14 PM
This is not a comment on which way the election is going, but a question if others are watching the results with the intensity I am.

No, not at all. I have no television and haven't been listening to the radio for a couple of months. So I found out the results when I read this morning's newspaper.

It reminds me of a Beatles song that went like this: I read the news today, oh boy!

Bonny
11-05-2014, 12:22 PM
Congratulations to the winners! Let's all try to support them in the difficult work of governing us. It will be tough. This country is more divided politically, economically, and socially than at any time in my memory. The major political parties are too busy trying to trash each other and win elections rather than do anything good for the country and the citizens that need their leadership. The minor political parties are so out on the fringe as to be frightening. I'm sad that the mantra for Americans seems to be "what's in it for me" rather than "what's in it for us."

Nevertheless, let's try to come together and be whole again. Let's stop treating elections as if they were sporting events where winning is all that matters, which clearly they are not. Let's stop treating those running for office as if they were scum and criminals, which clearly they are not. Let's be tolerant of each other, work to continue the prosperity that we currently experience, and do good things for all Americans!
Love your post !! My favorite saying in the world is "It Is What It Is" !!
Now we need to work together and support those in office and do the best we can.

Chi-Town
11-05-2014, 12:23 PM
The biggest surprises to me were a republican governor in maryland, mass., and illinois. No surprise the cover this morning of the new york post. President with a barrell around him and comment emporer stripped.
Illinois should not have been too surprising. In the last 50 years there have been 5 Republican and 5 Democratic governors. At inauguration it will be 6 to 5.

Buffalo Jim
11-05-2014, 12:46 PM
Well then, start governing in the House and Senate rather than obstructing. I've read the first item on the Republicans' new agenda is to impeach Obama.

Re: " The first item ........ is to impeach Obama " .

I have searched and searched in an effort to find the source of this statement but to no avail .
Would you be so kind as to share the source or sources so I could read it ?

Thanks ,

billethkid
11-05-2014, 01:27 PM
Re: " The first item ........ is to impeach Obama " .

I have searched and searched in an effort to find the source of this statement but to no avail .
Would you be so kind as to share the source or sources so I could read it ?

Thanks ,

BJ

you will soon recognize those who bait......his opening shot is just that.
Does not deserve the courtesy of trying to validate it.

I have no problem with people stating what they like or not....to each his own....very often those likes are translated into an opinion and then offered as an authicated position. And sometimes we interpret it that way (I know I have on ocassion)!

GoldenHurricane
11-05-2014, 01:44 PM
Re: " The first item ........ is to impeach Obama " .



I have searched and searched in an effort to find the source of this statement but to no avail .

Would you be so kind as to share the source or sources so I could read it ?



Thanks ,


On Twitter, search #impeachobama

Also, Google the term and links pop up as well.

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/11/05/Maddow-GOP-Will-Try-to-Impeach-Obama-Over-Exec-Amnesty

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/11/04/these-are-the-people-who-believe-a-republican-congress-will-impeach-president-obama/

Moderator
11-05-2014, 01:48 PM
This thread started as a discussion of viewing election returns but has morphed into partisan political postings. Polls have been closed for over 12 hours so thread will now be closed.