Neighborhood Pool Restrooms

[vinricci]

Tried to use the bathrooms at the Dunedin neighborhood pool and they were both occupied. After a while men came out of both restrooms and got into a landscaping vehicle. When I entered the ladies room it was filthy. My question is, are construction, landscapers and other trades permitted to use those facilities?

[wudda1955]

There is no lock on any gate, and they are public restrooms, why wouldn't they be allowed? Where else would they go? Call and complain about the "filthy" ladies room. I've seen the restrooms checked on a regular basis and have never seen one that could be described as filthy.

[HMLRHT1]

The restrooms are for anyone who is in need to use them.

[D&Lsunfun]

it is restroom. be thankful the workers use the proper areas and not the bushes and behind truck doors.
Unlike the homeowners that think the pool and mail station area is a public toilet for their dogs.
(which is not public area, owned by the developer, just as you own your property)

[Happinow]

My thought is that the pools are for villagers, correct??? The rest rooms are Inside the pool gate. Why would these rest rooms be made for the public when they are in the same gait as the pools? People who aren't Villagers aren't allowed to walk into the rec enters and use the rest rooms are they? It really makes no sense to me. While visiting another city, let's say St. Petes, and there is a planned community that has a pool with a fence around it with a pool house and rest rooms. Would you walk into that pool area and use the rest rooms??? I wouldn't have the nerve to do so. It's not my space. I don't believe anyone except people who live in The Villages and pay our amenity fees should be allowed to us the pool rest rooms. They should use the gas station or store rest rooms like other contractors do in other places. Not that I'm not grateful for their service, because I am. I just see that it seems wrong for everyone and his brother to use those facilities.

[Lovey2]

Tried to use the bathrooms at the Dunedin neighborhood pool and they were both occupied. After a while men came out of both restrooms and got into a landscaping vehicle. When I entered the ladies room it was filthy. My question is, are construction, landscapers and other trades permitted to use those facilities?

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[dah1020]

When you gotta go you gotta go. It's funny the only time you see these comments is when the BIRDS are back in their magical winter wonderland and it's their place and workers are peeing in their place. How date they. Lol

[Bogie Shooter]

Lets see............how many guards will we have to hire to monitor the restrooms??

[jalopy54]

if I had to go, villager or not I would go! Hell or High Water would not stop me!
( ! )

[bkcunningham1]

How would you know by looking at someone whether they own a house in TV or not? I mean, who is to say that the construction worker isn't an amenities paying, card carrying home owner?

[joldnol]

Dunedin's restrooms are used all the time (it's where the construction is happening)....my wife says at least they get to wash their hands, especially the food truck folks

[Miles42]

Why are men using the ladies room? Rig the rest rooms so they open with a owners card.

[redwitch]

Yes, visitors can use the rec center restrooms but the outdoor workers are considerate enough to not want to track their dirt indoors. As to using gas station restrooms, etc., maybe if there were public facilities closer than they are, the workers would be happy to use them. As has been said, using pool bathrooms certainly beats the alternatives.

[gomoho]

Actually Happinow does raise a good point? How do they use these restrooms when they are in the gated area? Guess another Villager is letting them in? Don't have a problem with it just wondering. Isn't it sad we have to explain ourselves to not get beat up at times?

[tommy steam]

I think the developer has agreed to let the workers use the rest rooms. It beats smelly port a potties all over the place.

[theorem painter]

We had a Century Link installer at our home yesterday. When he finished instead of asking to use our restroom he asked us where the closest pool was so he could use the restroom there. I offered ours but he declined. The installer told me that he used to ask to use the restroom from the homeowner but so many refused that he just stopped asking and now uses the one at the pool. I was a little surprised, to say the least.

[Uptown Girl]

Actually Happinow does raise a good point? How do they use these restrooms when they are in the gated area? Guess another Villager is letting them in? Don't have a problem with it just wondering. Isn't it sad we have to explain ourselves to not get beat up at times?

Tamarind Grove neighborhood pool has a gate, but it is not a gate that requires a pass to open. It has a simple lift-latch. I believe all neighborhood pools have them. The bathroom(s) there are one person at a time facilities. If no one was there, perhaps one guy used the ladies' room rather than wait.

The country club pools (open to those with priority subscriptions) have an attendant and those entering must present their Villages ID for scanning. The bathrooms there have multiple stalls.

The sport pool I attend for aerobics classes (Laurel Manor) has a gate and an attendant, but the bathroom/shower areas are accessible without entering the pool. It was there I passed a guy exiting with his dripping dog. I suspect he washed his (large) dog in the women's shower.
The arrogance of that annoyed me. A worker using the loo is not a problem…. but someone leaving a 'filthy' mess behind is a different issue.

[CFrance]

We had a Century Link installer at our home yesterday. When he finished instead of asking to use our restroom he asked us where the closest pool was so he could use the restroom there. I offered ours but he declined. The installer told me that he used to ask to use the restroom from the homeowner but so many refused that he just stopped asking and now uses the one at the pool. I was a little surprised, to say the least.
Amazing that some people would feel so far above another person that they would refuse him the use of their restroom. I mean, what makes them so "special"? It's okay to work in my house, but don't use my bathroom? What is this, a caste system? I hope karma evens things out.

[kcrazorbackfan]

theorem painter, you'll really be surprised when someone you offer to let use you bathroom robs you without you knowing it. I'm retired law enforcement, my wife is a SSA with DOJ and my son is KCPD Swat; service people that come in our homes are let in, watched while they do the job and then escorted out - no time for small talk means no time to look your home over.

[skip0358]

Yes they can and do use the rec center bathrooms. Where pray tell would you like them to go?

[missypie]

We had a Century Link installer at our home yesterday. When he finished instead of asking to use our restroom he asked us where the closest pool was so he could use the restroom there. I offered ours but he declined. The installer told me that he used to ask to use the restroom from the homeowner but so many refused that he just stopped asking and now uses the one at the pool. I was a little surprised, to say the least.

Same thing happened to me when a worker came into my house. It reminded me of the segregated bathrooms in the south. I didn't understand the whole thing while we were vacationing. My parents explained it to me and they didn't understand why either but said that's how it was down there.

[Bogie Shooter]

Why are men using the ladies room? Rig the rest rooms so they open with a owners card.

Do you play golf?

[Bogie Shooter]

Why are men using the ladies room? Rig the rest rooms so they open with a owners card.

Don't use my amenity fees to put some silly card system on restroom doors.

[CFrance]

theorem painter, you'll really be surprised when someone you offer to let use you bathroom robs you without you knowing it. I'm retired law enforcement, my wife is a SSA with DOJ and my son is KCPD Swat; service people that come in our homes are let in, watched while they do the job and then escorted out - no time for small talk means no time to look your home over.
I would hate to live my life being so suspicious of people. We assume the people we have work in our home are honest, because we deal with reputable companies. To treat them like they are all potential criminals "casing out our bathroom" is absurd.

[perrjojo]

I would hate to live my life being so suspicious of people. We assume the people we have work in our home are honest, because we deal with reputable companies. To treat them like they a ire all potential criminals "casing out our bathroom" is absurd.

I had always assumed that too until an air conditioning repairman used my bathroom and left with my jewelry. Workers can still use my restroom but I first go in and make certain I have left nothing of value in there.

[zonerboy]

Just had new laminate flooring installed in our CYV. The guy doing all the work is a Village home owner.
I have no problem with various workmen ( or work women) using the restrooms at the pools. Just as long as they don't actually jump in the water without showering first.

[CFrance]

I had always assumed that too until an air conditioning repairman used my bathroom and left with my jewelry. Workers can still use my restroom but I first go in and make certain I have left nothing of value in there.
Well, of course there are certain precautions to take. :smiley:

[jimmy D]

I AGREE with you. You swim and here they come. They do mess up the restrooms and I think if you have to go. then go but not at the pools.

[KathieI]

In MY bathroom, there would be nothing to steal but toilet paper, lol.

Within the past few months, with 2 houses having work done on them, I've had quite a few asking to use my facility and I would never dream of saying no... this way they will work longer and harder and not take breaks... LOL. there's a method to my madness.

[sunnyatlast]

Even gas stations and truck stops lock the restrooms so people can't hide out in there and do drugs or have sex, and they require restroom users to ask for a key.

I think it's risky business and highly offensive to allow transient construction workers to use a neighborhood family pool bathroom where little girls and boys go in to use the potty. They could be molested, kidnapped, etc.by some weirdo waiting in there.

And the filth that was left was probably mud made by workboots caked with dirt that mixed with dripped pool water from swimmers.

These are not public toilets. We pay amenities fees for them to use and to have them clean and safe.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I would hate to live my life being so suspicious of people. We assume the people we have work in our home are honest, because we deal with reputable companies. To treat them like they are all potential criminals "casing out our bathroom" is absurd.

We're not suspicious of all people, just cautious. Most, not all, of the people we have dealt with throughout our careers are the dregs of society. My wife and I have both arrested son's and daughter's of people we arrested years ago.

Have you ever given thought to what is mainly left in bathrooms? Jewelry and prescription drugs. It's not hard to stuff them in their pocket when flushing the toilet. Stay safe.

[Indy-Guy]

I pulled up to a golf course restroom and a golf cart was sitting in front of it and both restrooms were in use. A lady came out of the ladies and then another lady came out of the men's.

I smiled and asked her if she had put the seat up. Then we both laughed and both ladies were laughing as they drove away.

[Pointer]

I have no problem with anyone who needs a bathroom using the nearest one they could find. It's a basic often urgent need. One of the things that I liked about TV is that there are bathrooms all over. This isn't a gated community we have no right to deny anyone access, and we invite the workers here to do us a service. Why would we deny anyone the use of a facility who needs it. And why would you keep jewelry and drugs in a guest bath? I'm just not used to this kind of us vs them spirit. It's not like anyones getting out alive.

[CFrance]

Even gas stations and truck stops lock the restrooms so people can't hide out in there and do drugs or have sex, and they require restroom users to ask for a key.

I think it's risky business and highly offensive to allow transient construction workers to use a neighborhood family pool bathroom where little girls and boys go in to use the potty. They could be molested, kidnapped, etc.by some weirdo waiting in there.

And the filth that was left was probably mud made by workboots caked with dirt that mixed with dripped pool water from swimmers.

These are not public toilets. We pay amenities fees for them to use and to have them clean and safe.

We have been traveling on three-day road trips back and forth from the north to Key West and to here since 2004, and I have yet to encounter a locked restroom. they are all inside the gas stations now and not locked.

If there is a construction worker using your pool restroom and it makes you nervous to have your children in there, go in with them or have them wait till the worker is done. For heaven's sake, we've had more problems with our own Villagers exposing themselves and doing drugs at pools than any construction workers.These people have families of their own. Whatever would make you think they are all perverts waiting to harm our children? Geez.

[Barefoot]

There is no lock on any gate, and they are public restrooms, why wouldn't they be allowed? Where else would they go?

Amazing that some people would feel so far above another person that they would refuse him the use of their restroom. I mean, what makes them so "special"?

There's a heck of a lot of lawn mowing and construction renovations going on in The Villages on a daily basis.
If the public were denied use of pool rest rooms, I can only imagine the residents' belligerence in complaining about the ugly portapotties scattered throughout TV.
Come on people, get real, what do you expect these workers to do?

[jblum315]

If you would rather they P on your lawn, just put up a sign workers please P here

[graciegirl]

What was said on this issue some time ago.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-new-members-forum-115/use-neighorhood-family-pools-15655/

[theorem painter]

theorem painter, you'll really be surprised when someone you offer to let use you bathroom robs you without you knowing it. I'm retired law enforcement, my wife is a SSA with DOJ and my son is KCPD Swat; service people that come in our homes are let in, watched while they do the job and then escorted out - no time for small talk means no time to look your home over.

Both my husband and I were probation officers for 35 years so we certainly are not naive when it comes to service people in our home. I would never be home alone with a service person or would I allow them to use our bathroom unescorted.

[PaPaLarry]

When you have to go, you have to go!!!!!!

[Barefoot]

If you would rather they P on your lawn, just put up a sign workers please P here

Exactly. :evil6:

[CFrance]

If you would rather they P on your lawn, just put up a sign workers please P here

NO WAIT!!! Some dog might misinterpret that.:cryin2:

[TheVillageChicken]

Somewhere in The Villages someone who just peed in the swimming pool says, "The nerve of that landscaping guy...using our restroom."

[sunnyatlast]

Both my husband and I were probation officers for 35 years so we certainly are not naive when it comes to service people in our home. I would never be home alone with a service person or would I allow them to use our bathroom unescorted.

Thank you.

And again, the pool restrooms are not public toilets.

The developers built nice public restrooms that look like beach cabanas beside Lake Sumter at the town square.

Maybe they should build some designated public restrooms at the shopping centers like Colony and Pinellas.

Also, it can be quite unnerving as a female taking a shower at Mulberry, Colony or Laurel Manor sport pools, knowing that any tom, dick and harry stops in off the highways of 42, 466 and 466-A to use the toilets whose doorways are shared with the shower and dressing rooms, and the doors simply push/pull open without latches!!

[Bogie Shooter]

Thank you.

And again, the pool restrooms are not public toilets.

The developers built nice public restrooms that look like beach cabanas beside Lake Sumter at the town square.

Maybe they should build some designated public restrooms at the shopping centers like Colony and Pinellas.

Also, it can be quite unnerving as a female taking a shower at Mulberry, Colony or Laurel Manor sport pools, knowing that any tom, dick and harry stops in off the highways of 42, 466 and 466-A to use the toilets whose doorways are shared with the shower and dressing rooms, and the doors simply push/pull open without latches!!

Is this the first mention of sports pools?

[redwitch]

You couldn't pay me to take a shower at the sports pool. I'm not overly concerned about one of the workers barging in for a peek, I'd be more worried about Villager barging in for a quick peek.

As to more public restrooms in the squares or shopping centers, get real. One, it would take up space needed for shops and parking. Two, the distance would be too great for most workers to get to the bathroom, use the toilet and return to the worksite. Three, most employees of lawn maintenance personnel ride in their supervisor's vehicle. I really can't see the supervisor being willing to go out of the scheduled route for a worker to use a toilet when there are easily accessible, legal facilities available.

[handyman]

Port a johns could easily be placed at the many maintenance facilities all over the Villages,the restrooms at the pools are not public,this should have been nipped at bud years ago before it became a common practice!

[mulligan]

OK folks, time for a little common sense. There are literally hundreds of pickup trucks with 12' trailers full of lawn equipment in TV every day. Suppose just 8 laborers had need for a toilet at the same time, and they all headed for the public restrooms at LSL. What would traffic look like when all 12 parked there ? What would their fellow workers do when their 10 minute lawnmowing job was completed, and the truck didn't come back for another 1/2 hour ? How many of you would whine about all the extra traffic ? Give these guys a break. They're just trying to make a living. The bathrooms get cleaned daily, and most (I said MOST) pool users don't actually use them anyway.

[jblum315]

Right. Pool users mostly pee in the pool, I suspect

[CFrance]

OK folks, time for a little common sense. There are literally hundreds of pickup trucks with 12' trailers full of lawn equipment in TV every day. Suppose just 8 laborers had need for a toilet at the same time, and they all headed for the public restrooms at LSL. What would traffic look like when all 12 parked there ? What would their fellow workers do when their 10 minute lawnmowing job was completed, and the truck didn't come back for another 1/2 hour ? How many of you would whine about all the extra traffic ? Give these guys a break. They're just trying to make a living. The bathrooms get cleaned daily, and most (I said MOST) pool users don't actually use them anyway.
Good point.:clap2:

And as for placing portajohns all over the place... Ew.

[graciegirl]

Be nice. Share.

No big deal. The folks who build our houses aren't a bunch of aliens and perverts. Well maybe a few, but we have our own homegrown ones too.

I say, the most important thing is to keep the adjoining developments from not using our pool toilets. Who KNOWS what they have?

I am JUST kidding about the adjoining developments.

But what difference is it going to make if we allow someone to relieve themselves in our pool restrooms?????

What if, at the end, when we climb the pearly stairs, that the first thing out of St. Peter's mouth is...."ARE YOU THE ONE WHO DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE THE POOL JOHN's in THE VILLAGES? Just look over my shoulder, Gary Morse is holding a big party, and you are not invited. You have to spend five years banging on the potty door before you are let into upper paradise."

Think about it.

[janmcn]

Port a johns could easily be placed at the many maintenance facilities all over the Villages,the restrooms at the pools are not public,this should have been nipped at bud years ago before it became a common practice!


The developer still owns 95% of the facilities south of CR466, and as the owner, would be the only one to set a policy on the use of these facilities. Once they are turned over to the districts, then residents might have a say in this matter.

[graciegirl]

The developer still owns 95% of the facilities south of CR466, and as the owner, would be the only one to set a policy on the use of these facilities. Once they are turned over to the districts, then residents might have a say in this matter.

AND may that NEVER happen.

[Uptown Girl]

The developer still owns 95% of the facilities south of CR466, and as the owner, would be the only one to set a policy on the use of these facilities.

Exactly.

[tommy steam]

I met a couple who moved down here a short while ago from Murrell Inlet SC . He said it was a wonderful place to live when the developer ran the show. Some years later, the residents got control and it went down hill fast. He said the residents who were elected to run the place had thier own personal agenda and there was a lot of infighting.

[Wandatime]

What was said on this issue some time ago.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-new-members-forum-115/use-neighorhood-family-pools-15655/

Yes, it sure seems what goes around comes around. Maybe we should start a thread on dog poop. THAT's never been discussed before.

[Bogie Shooter]

I met a couple who moved down here a short while ago from Murrell Inlet SC . He said it was a wonderful place to live when the developer ran the show. Some years later, the residents got control and it went down hill fast. He said the residents who were elected to run the place had thier own personal agenda and there was a lot of infighting.

A lot more information is needed to accept this with a grain of salt.
How many homes, number of board members, their term in office, etc.
You cannot compare that place with TV and make any assumptions.

[Barefoot]

OK folks, time for a little common sense. There are literally hundreds of pickup trucks with 12' trailers full of lawn equipment in TV every day. Suppose just 8 laborers had need for a toilet at the same time, and they all headed for the public restrooms at LSL. What would traffic look like when all 12 parked there ? What would their fellow workers do when their 10 minute lawnmowing job was completed, and the truck didn't come back for another 1/2 hour ? How many of you would whine about all the extra traffic ? Give these guys a break. They're just trying to make a living. The bathrooms get cleaned daily, and most (I said MOST) pool users don't actually use them anyway.

Well said. :agree:
It's preposterous and unworkable to expect workers to use the bathrooms at LSL or hold their P all day.
Workers would have to start charging more for their time because lengthy P breaks would have to be added into the pricing structure.
And who would be the first to complain about that?
Have a heart.

[sunnyatlast]

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[FlamingoFlo]

I'm trying so hard to understand why people are against workers using the bathrooms. Gosh, it's a bathroom at a pool. I just don't see the big deal here.

[Barefoot]

I'm trying so hard to understand why people are against workers using the bathrooms. Gosh, it's a bathroom at a pool. I just don't see the big deal here.

If you figure out why, please share it here.
Like you, I don't understand the problem.

[iaudit]

The developer still owns 95% of the facilities south of CR466, and as the owner, would be the only one to set a policy on the use of these facilities. Once they are turned over to the districts, then residents might have a say in this matter.
The recreation facilities will never be controlled by the residents. They will eventually be turned over to the central CDD which are controlled by the developer.

[Bogie Shooter]

A "quick peek"???? You must be kidding. Have you ever heard of abductions, rapes and murders?

And I didn't say that "any tom, dick or harry" was a construction or lawn worker. Some Villagers being perverts and criminals is a given!

We have gate cards to open the gates here. I think we could have such cards to open recreation facility bathroom/dressing room doors, too.



That card reader is just above the button to open the gate.........by anybody.
I have not heard of any abductions, rapes and murders at the pools. Who you trying to scare?

[jbdlfan]

Boy, the next thing you know, those Stonecresters will be here using our toilets.....

[kcrazorbackfan]

Tried to use the bathrooms at the Dunedin neighborhood pool and they were both occupied. After a while men came out of both restrooms and got into a landscaping vehicle. When I entered the ladies room it was filthy. My question is, are construction, landscapers and other trades permitted to use those facilities?

Ok, there has been a lot of discussion on this topic; was it ever defined what the filth was? vinricci, would you care to elaborate? Mud slapped on the bank or floaties left are one thing, but if it is just a sink left a little dirty - come on now.

[CFrance]

Boy, the next thing you know, those Stonecresters will be here using our toilets.....
Ew... Stonecrester cooties! :MOJE_whot:

[dotti105]

Just today as I was running errands, I wished there were some convenience stores in TV south of 466. I have seen the circle K's up there, but south of 466 there is NOTHING!!
I was "jonesing" for a Diet Mt Dew, not a restroom.

But if you look at the number of Service providers here, lawn care, electricians, window tint, painting, etc, etc, etc. These guys do have NOWHERE to find a restroom between Brownwood and Lake Sumter Landing. When at the neighborhood pools we have seen guys come in and get water from the fountain and use the restroom. They have always been polite and in and out quickly and quietly.

I certainly do not object to that. We call for repairs and they are always prompt and polite. Why on earth deny them the use of the neighborhood pool restrooms?? I see that as very insensitive!

Oh, and the comment about showering before using the pool. Growing up in Fl. we always used the shower AFTER swimming to get the chlorine off, not BEFORE swimming. That seems to be a practice of our neighbors to the north and seasonal residents. The same with the showers at the beach. Shower AFTER, to get the sand and salt off. No real reason to shower before in either case.

[sunnyatlast]

That card reader is just above the button to open the gate.........by anybody.
I have not heard of any abductions, rapes and murders at the pools. Who you trying to scare?

The point is that key card entry can be done affordably. A bypass button to enter without the card is a different matter and doesn't have to be with a card reader.

As for your accusations of "trying to scare" people, are the Sheriff Departments and FL Dept. Of Law Enforcement just whipping up hysteria by publishing the online sex offender registries for us to use?!??!??

https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/searchNeighborhood.do?actionPerformed=neighborhood SearchMain

[Bay Kid]

Better for the workers to use the toilet than go behind the bushes....

[graciegirl]

Better for the workers to use the toilet than go behind the bushes....

That's it. You got it Bay Kid.

There are no classes in The Villages. No one group is better than any other group. What would we do without the contractors, builders and lawn care people? And old white women who are know it alls???? That would be me.


Good Morning EVERYONE. It's another wonderful day in THE VILLAGES!!!!

[Bogie Shooter]

The point is that key card entry can be done affordably. A bypass button to enter without the card is a different matter and doesn't have to be with a card reader.

As for your accusations of "trying to scare" people, are the Sheriff Departments and FL Dept. Of Law Enforcement just whipping up hysteria by publishing the online sex offender registries for us to use?!??!??

https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/searchNeighborhood.do?actionPerformed=neighborhood SearchMain

Didn't see anything about any abductions, rapes and murders at the sports pools.

[jblum315]

Hasn't this thread lived long enough?

[Uptown Girl]

The point is that key card entry can be done affordably.]

Just because one has/must use a 'key card' does not insure they are of good character.

The real point, is that the developer is in charge and has chosen to allow workers to use the facilities. It is unfortunate if that troubles your sense of security.

To my knowledge there have been no attacks in restrooms here in the long history of our community. If there were, I am certain the news would spread like wildfire. I would invite any real knowledge of dangerous restroom episodes occurring here. I think we all would.

There are people of questionable intent in this world. They can live anywhere and look common, weird or wonderful.

Allowing a guy who works hard for a living, under company supervision, to use a public bathroom when needed is how it is done here.

[caseycasebeer]

It's comforting to know that with all the globe-girdling events going on
(economics/finance, ISIS, ebola, 66% of American's not having faith in their gov't, global warming/cooling, domestic vs international terrorists, the welfare vs warfare State, et al.) we (in The Villages) still have time to devote EIGHT pages of our attention to the truly (sic) important matters of our 'Time. Amazing.

[sunnyatlast]

It's comforting to know that with all the globe-girdling events going on
(economics/finance, ISIS, ebola, 66% of American's not having faith in their gov't, global warming/cooling, domestic vs international terrorists, the welfare vs warfare State, et al.) we (in The Villages) still have time to devote EIGHT pages of our attention to the truly (sic) important matters of our 'Time. Amazing.

Well it looks like you've been reading it, too.

[sunnyatlast]

Just because one has/must use a 'key card' does not insure they are of good character.

The real point, is that the developer is in charge and has chosen to allow workers to use the facilities. It is unfortunate if that troubles your sense of security.

To my knowledge there have been no attacks in restrooms here in the long history of our community. If there were, I am certain the news would spread like wildfire. I would invite any real knowledge of dangerous restroom episodes occurring here. I think we all would.

There are people of questionable intent in this world. They can live anywhere and look common, weird or wonderful.

Allowing a guy who works hard for a living, under company supervision, to use a public bathroom when needed is how it is done here.

A key card, for one thing, registers an identity of who's entering. The gate cards register in who's coming thru.

If somebody is entering the restrooms/shower facilities for purposes of harming someone, are they going to log themselves in with their ID card? I don't think so.

While we're on that subject, why do we have resident ID cards to enter the rec centers and to use the golf courses, if it's okay for anybody on the street to stop in and use them?

I still think some "rest stop" areas with PUBLIC bathrooms should be built along the main highways like 466 and 466-A etc. They could be set up like the interstate rest stops, where there is area information and refreshments to buy in addition to restrooms. TV could provide sales/visitor information and point people to the sales centers for a tour etc.

And regarding this: "Allowing a guy who works hard for a living, under company supervision, to use a public bathroom when needed is how it is done here"……..

Who says all workers here are "under company supervision"? There are oodles of lawn workers who work on their own, without "company supervision". That's why there's another thread going right now about the LIABILITIES a homeowner can incur by having uninsured workers getting injured on your property, or if they steal or wreck something!

[Barefoot]

It's comforting to know that with all the globe-girdling events going on
(economics/finance, ISIS, ebola, 66% of American's not having faith in their gov't, global warming/cooling, domestic vs international terrorists, the welfare vs warfare State, et al.) we (in The Villages) still have time to devote EIGHT pages of our attention to the truly (sic) important matters of our 'Time. Amazing.

We bat around a lot of topics on this website, some important, some trivial. :oops:
Please feel free to start a new thread on some of the weighty matters that concern you.

[Bogie Shooter]

This has gone from concern about some guy using the bathroom at the neighborhood pools, to adding some kind of card reader to the doors of the sports pools, to now building rest stops along 466, 466A, Morse Blvd, Buena Vista Blvd and who knows where else. DUH!

[iaudit]

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I still think some "rest stop" areas with PUBLIC bathrooms should be built along the main highways like 466 and 466-A etc. They could be set up like the interstate rest stops, where there is area information and refreshments to buy in addition to restrooms. TV could provide sales/visitor information and point people to the sales centers for a tour etc

Really? On whose land , built by who, maintained by who?

[sunnyatlast]

Really? On whose land , built by who, maintained by who?

The developers can build it, just as they built the public restroom building on Lake Sumter, across from the sales center.

[sunnyatlast]

This has gone from concern about some guy using the bathroom at the neighborhood pools, to adding some kind of card reader to the doors of the sports pools, to now building rest stops along 466, 466A, Morse Blvd, Buena Vista Blvd and who knows where else. DUH!

Well DUH to you, too. Since you want the pool restrooms open to whoever comes down the street, how about letting the workers or whomever use the bathrooms inside the neighborhood rec center too. Then they could cool off by shooting some pool at the nice pool tables in there, and they could use the kitchen to make some lunch. Or they could use the picnic pavilion outside the rec center to have lunch and then play some shuffleboard.

Why is it okay to have non-residents use the pool bathrooms and track in mud where barefoot swimmers come in to change clothes and use the bathroom? Obviously many of you have never tried changing clothes in there after workers tracked in mud on their work boots, and the floors are absolutely filthy with no clean place to stand barefoot while dressing. I've done it and seen that mess many times and it's not right.

[Barefoot]

This has gone from concern about some guy using the bathroom at the neighborhood pools, to adding some kind of card reader to the doors of the sports pools, to now building rest stops along 466, 466A, Morse Blvd, Buena Vista Blvd and who knows where else. DUH!

And of course our amenity charges would pay for the "enhancements".

[sunnyatlast]

And of course our amenity charges would pay for the "enhancements".

Our amenities fees already provide for the bar code reading of our resident ID cards whenever we enter a neighborhood rec center for any activity in there. The pool restrooms are part of the facility which is not public.

[skip0358]

OK it's a Bathroom. You can go into ANY Rec Center to use the Bathroom. The Workers lawn, masons etc. are allowed to use these Bathrooms. Where would you like them to go. Who are we to not allow anyone from using a Bathroom? Contractors clean the pools and Rec Centers at night, so they can't use the Bathroom then either? Guess not many of you have EVER been an outside worker. Are we really the high and mighty? How few people in the pools ever get checked to see IF they belong there? If your in the water you don't get checked. Lighten up a little and give a little kindness to the contractors it might just go a long way. JMO

[graciegirl]

This is the reason I FEAR that someday we will vote on people to run the villages.

Everyone most sincerely believes that they know what is best for all of us.

I hope, hope, hope that nothing changes in my life time.

[JSR22]

OK it's a Bathroom. You can go into ANY Rec Center to use the Bathroom. The Workers lawn, masons etc. are allowed to use these Bathrooms. Where would you like them to go. Who are we to not allow anyone from using a Bathroom? Contractors clean the pools and Rec Centers at night, so they can't use the Bathroom then either? Guess not many of you have EVER been an outside worker. Are we really the high and mighty? How few people in the pools ever get checked to see IF they belong there? If your in the water you don't get checked. Lighten up a little and give a little kindness to the contractors it might just go a long way. JMO

I 100% agree that the workers be allowed to use the pool bathrooms. The Villages covers many square miles putting a public rest room off of 2 roads would not work. The geographical area is too big. I have never changed my clothes in the pool bathrooms. When I use the bathroom I put on my shoes.

[sunnyatlast]

OK it's a Bathroom. You can go into ANY Rec Center to use the Bathroom. The Workers lawn, masons etc. are allowed to use these Bathrooms. Where would you like them to go. Who are we to not allow anyone from using a Bathroom? Contractors clean the pools and Rec Centers at night, so they can't use the Bathroom then either? Guess not many of you have EVER been an outside worker. Are we really the high and mighty? How few people in the pools ever get checked to see IF they belong there? If your in the water you don't get checked. Lighten up a little and give a little kindness to the contractors it might just go a long way. JMO

It's not about being "high and mighty". It's just as the o.p. said: "After a while men came out of both restrooms and got into a landscaping vehicle. When I entered the ladies room it was filthy."

What are men doing in the ladies' room?

I would like to hear how many times, in your former homes and neighborhoods, that you told lawn workers, tree cutters, construction workers, and any other person driving down your street that they could use the restrooms at a neighborhood private pool and tennis club.

That is exactly what you are promoting here. Our neighborhood and regional pool complexes here in TV are private, not public!

For us, the answer is "NEVER" would we have told workers or whomever to use the bathrooms at the private pool-tennis club a couple of blocks away from us in our former neighborhood in the suburbs.

If we had a repair or installation person at our house and they asked to use the bathroom, we allowed them to. But never would we have told the guys outside to go and use private facilities belonging to somebody else. Somehow, they found a place to go, like the gas stations, McDonalds, or wherever else they got their food and drinks.

[CFrance]

Our amenities fees already provide for the bar code reading of our resident ID cards whenever we enter a neighborhood rec center for any activity in there. The pool restrooms are part of the facility which is not public.
Setting the entitlement attitude aside, do you really think it would not cost an extra dime to install and maintain card readers at every single pool in TV?

[sunnyatlast]

Setting the entitlement attitude aside, do you really think it would not cost an extra dime to install and maintain card readers at every single pool in TV?

Was it "entitlement attitude" when you wrote Mr. Rohan and published the letters on a thread here, about people taking over the neighborhood pools for their own group aerobics etc., which disrespects those who want the facility used for its intended purpose which is relaxation?

Is it "entitlement attitude" when executive golf workers are put in place to log in resident and guest ID cards and to collect trail fees and pull-cart fees when playing executive golf courses?

Is it "entitlement attitude" when people from surrounding towns who are at Spanish Springs for the night go to Katie Belle's and they're told they cannot enter without a resident ID card?

Nobody seems to have a problem with the costs of checking ID cards at those facilities, so why should the pool complexes be open to anybody who comes around and leaves them dirty??

[CFrance]

Was it "entitlement attitude" when you wrote Mr. Rohan and published the letters on a thread here, about people taking over the neighborhood pools for their own group aerobics etc., which disrespects those who want the facility used for its intended purpose which is relaxation?

Is it "entitlement attitude" when executive golf workers are put in place to log in resident and guest ID cards and to collect trail fees and pull-cart fees when playing executive golf courses?

Is it "entitlement attitude" when people from surrounding towns who are at Spanish Springs for the night go to Katie Belle's and they're told they cannot enter without a resident ID card?

Nobody seems to have a problem with the costs of checking ID cards at those facilities, so why should the pool complexes be open to anybody who comes around and leaves them dirty??

We're not talking about outsiders trying to use our pools, golf courses, and Katie Bell's. We're also not talking about people taking over our facilities and using them for purposes not intended by TV. We're talking about workers who are maintaining our homes and TV property having to go to the bathroom, for Pete's sake, and the people who think they don't deserve so much as to take care of a bodily need in our precious restrooms.
How mean-spirited can you get.

[JSR22]

Honestly, I have never seen the pool bathrooms dirty and I use our neighborhood pool 5 days a week. I have been to Katie Belles a number of times and never showed an ID.
I truly believe workers using the neighborhood pool bathrooms is a non issue.

[redwitch]

Sunny, I know you don't believe this but anyone can go into a rec center and use the bathroom. They can even walk around the center and enjoy the decor. They cannot play an activity or join a club (barring a support group or a private event rented by a Villager). If you want, just anyone at the rec centers or call the recreation department.

Personally, there is no way I would walk or step with bare feet in ANY public bathroom. If it is a bathroom used by toddlers or seniors, I will balance myself -- too many misses and too many wet toilet seats and floors. I worry less about a lawn worker using the bathroom than I do many Villagers.

I'm sorry that you have so little compassion for others. I'm sorry your world is upset by humans having human needs.

Maybe those who object could set up a Port-A-Potty in their backyards with a discrete sign in front for these workers.

[sunnyatlast]

We're not talking about outsiders trying to use our pools, golf courses, and Katie Bell's. We're also not talking about people taking over our facilities and using them for purposes not intended by TV. We're talking about workers who are maintaining our homes and TV property having to go to the bathroom, for Pete's sake, and the people who think they don't deserve so much as to take care of a bodily need in our precious restrooms.
How mean-spirited can you get.

Call me names if you want, but it's not just the workers we hire at our homes or that TV hires to maintain community property.

It's also the people in and around and passing thru TV who Seniors Against Crime protects against, and it's also the workers being discussed on the thread titled "Liability is on you" who are not bonded (maybe due to criminal record) and who are not insured.

There are lots of workers and people just passing thru who stop in to use the rec center pool bathrooms and dressing rooms who have not been background checked as TV employees or our own service people have been checked out. There was also a home invasion in Duval a couple of months ago, discussed at length on two prior threads here.

I think it could be called "mean spirited" to ridicule those of us who have seen danger or misuse of facilities, and warn others against it.

[Walter123]

To pee or not to pee, that is the question.

[dillywho]

Had the o.p. been in the restroom prior to these men? Did she know anyone who had? If not, then it could be that someone else had left if "filthy". Why was the rec department not called immediately with the name of the landscaping company to make a formal complaint? TOTV is great for airing frustrations but normally does not result in meaningful change.

Just my thoughts on it.

[joldnol]

for those of you who are ignorant on how construction goes, you have had dozens of men use your plumbing while your house was being built. All of those white pvc pipes you see coming out of a slab make convenient urinals and not all of the workers have deadly aim. The nastiest job to have is be the poor smoe who has to break the cap on the sewer line before it's hooked up to the sewage system.

[CFrance]

To pee or not to pee, that is the question.
Apparently, not in our backyard!

[Campbell soup]

I am sure they both had to go very bad as they don't just come in the pool area very often. We don't say anything when these same people call the police or have actually assisted in catching criminals....who do live in The Villages. There are rules and then there is common sense and politeness. Lets not worry so much relax and enjoy the beautiful pools these landscapers are human beings working hard to make an honest living....they are not out slaves they are our equals...