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graciegirl
11-06-2014, 08:35 AM
Due to the information given by the Director of Infectious Diseases at Emory University Hospital when he gave remarks when the second nurse was released I feel more informed than from all the government agencies and medical institutions that I used to hold in high regard.

So...to all the scoffers, I am still the person that thinks it is better to be safe than sorry and I believe the country justifiably panicked.

Still hoping to see the young doctor released in good health.

Hope to see a well informed and experienced M.D. placed as Surgeon General and the appointment made due to qualifications other than politics or race or gender.

CFrance
11-06-2014, 08:41 AM
I don't think it's fair to say the people who disagreed with you are "scoffers." I personally was not scoffing at your opinion. I just held a different opinion about our ability to handle the situation, and still feel that we can safely keep an outbreak at bay when any health worker comes home, without having to "imprison" them for 21 days if they're not sick. Lessons were learned all around from Texas. Plus we needed stricter monitoring, of returning health workers, and we got it.

I do still think the media whipped this into a frenzy.

2BNTV
11-06-2014, 09:03 AM
I do still think the media whipped this into a frenzy.

:agree:

It's all about getting ratings and newspaper circulation for the media types. Bad news sells!!!

Give me Walter Cronkite, "that's the way, it is", anyday.

jimbo2012
11-06-2014, 09:18 AM
My daughter in law has cousin that is a doctor that just returned,

Dr. Gabriel Fitzpatrick, who went to Sierra Leone

he told her with standard medical procedures it really is under control.

billethkid
11-06-2014, 09:20 AM
I, like many others, make my decisions based on information available EXCLUDING THE MEDIA.

One can easily research and draw one's own conclusions. For me, the media + the government has less than a 10% impact.

They have an agenda to maintain. I have the safety of me and my family to be concerned about.

In my opinion, our medical facilities around the country were and still remain ill prepared for anything more than treating hundreds (being generous).

graciegirl
11-06-2014, 09:31 AM
I, like many others, make my decisions based on information available EXCLUDING THE MEDIA.

One can easily research and draw one's own conclusions. For me, the media + the government has less than a 10% impact.

They have an agenda to maintain. I have the safety of me and my family to be concerned about.

In my opinion, our medical facilities around the country were and still remain ill prepared for anything more than treating hundreds (being generous).


I so agree.

and to defend myself, The media was not to blame for my fear. I have been following the Ebola outbreaks in Africa for a long time. Don't ask me why. I read medical stuff just because I find it interesting.

The cause of MY fear was the government mishandling of the issue not the media.

gomoho
11-06-2014, 09:32 AM
Hate to add fuel to the fire; however, the Wall Street Journal had an article the other day stating that a partner of someone who was pronounced to be cured was infected with Ebola through sexual contact. It is believed this is a possibility up to 90 days after being pronounced cured.

graciegirl
11-06-2014, 09:40 AM
Hate to add fuel to the fire; however, the Wall Street Journal had an article the other day stating that a partner of someone who was pronounced to be cured was infected with Ebola through sexual contact. It is believed this is a possibility up to 90 days after being pronounced cured.


You are correct. Read here;

Q&As on Transmission | Ebola Hemorrhagic Fever | CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html)

njbchbum
11-06-2014, 09:48 AM
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...we can safely keep an outbreak at bay when any health worker comes home, without having to "imprison" them for 21 days if they're not sick. Lessons were learned all around from Texas. Plus we needed stricter monitoring, of returning health workers, and we got it.

I do still think the media whipped this into a frenzy.

CFrance - Does it make you wonder, as it does me, why then our military who are not involved with direct ppatient care will we 'imprisoned' [as you say] in Italy for 21 days before they are returned to the US?

That also makes me wonder why the military has not offered their location for 21 day stays for all American health care workers!

sunnyatlast
11-06-2014, 09:53 AM
I doubt that Liberia's asymptomatic chief medical officer is "needlessly" panicked by our media.

From the trenches:

Liberia's top doctor quarantines herself to set an example in her Ebola-ridden country

"Liberia's chief medical officer, Dr. Berenice Dahn, has quarantined herself in her own home in a very high profile way.

"It's necessary that I set the example, so that when we tell others to do it, they take us seriously," Dahn says. She's also asked her entire office to follow suit.

Dahn began the quarantine after one of her assistants at the Ministry of Health and Social Welfare died of Ebola. Now she's one week into a 21-day monitoring period, and she admits it isn't easy.

Her life has changed in many ways, big and small. She laments that she can no longer share a room with her husband. She uses her own utensils and disinfects them. And hugging her kids is out of the question. A sadness creeps into her voice when she describes how she and her children used to cuddle.

"Children come lie down on your bed and watch TV, and do the rest," she says. "They don't do that anymore."

Dahn admits it's hard to forget "the fear of the unknown." But she's also cheered, and even appreciative of the quiet. "Days are going, and I'm still in good health," she notes. "It's been a lot of stress since the outbreak, and I've not had time to rest."…….

Full story:

Liberia's top doctor quarantines herself to set an example in her Ebola-ridden country | Public Radio International (http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-10-02/liberias-top-doctor-quarantines-herself-set-example-her-ebola-ridden-country)

sunnyatlast
11-06-2014, 10:02 AM
Thursday, Nov 6, 2014 • Updated at 9:33 AM EST

The number of people under "active monitoring" for Ebola symptoms has increased from 117 on Monday to 357 people Wednesday, health officials said.

The vast majority of those being monitored arrived in New York City within the past 21 days from the three Ebola-affected countries, the New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation said in a statement.

Others being monitored are the staff caring for Dr. Craig Spencer, the physician being treated for Ebola at Bellevue Hospital, the lab workers who conducted his blood tests and the FDNY EMTs who transported the doctor……"

Number of People Under "Active Monitoring" for Ebola in NYC Triples, City Officials Say | NBC New York (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/active-monitoring-ebola-doctor-Craig-Spencer-bellevue-hospital-281671121.html)

redwitch
11-06-2014, 11:03 AM
I'm very pro active monitoring. I'm very anti quarantining for some with no symptoms. Yes, Ebola is a horrible disease but it is a disease that can be controlled with proper precautions, as has been shown. If Nigeria can be declared Ebola-free without ever closing its borders, it seems that safe and sane precautions do work.

janmcn
11-06-2014, 11:09 AM
Thursday, Nov 6, 2014 • Updated at 9:33 AM EST

The number of people under "active monitoring" for Ebola symptoms has increased from 117 on Monday to 357 people Wednesday, health officials said.

The vast majority of those being monitored arrived in New York City within the past 21 days from the three Ebola-affected countries, the New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation said in a statement.

Others being monitored are the staff caring for Dr. Craig Spencer, the physician being treated for Ebola at Bellevue Hospital, the lab workers who conducted his blood tests and the FDNY EMTs who transported the doctor……"

Number of People Under "Active Monitoring" for Ebola in NYC Triples, City Officials Say | NBC New York (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/active-monitoring-ebola-doctor-Craig-Spencer-bellevue-hospital-281671121.html)


Just because there have been no new cases reported in the US, this is not the time to let your guard down. To be safe, stay off of airplanes, stay off of cruise ships, stay out of public swimming pools, stay away from hospitals, nursing homes and doctors offices or anywhere where those infected might appear, stay away from crowded areas, and do not use public restrooms among many other things you can do to protect yourself.

sunnyatlast
11-06-2014, 12:52 PM
Thursday, Nov 6, 2014 • Updated at 9:33 AM EST

The number of people under "active monitoring" for Ebola symptoms has increased from 117 on Monday to 357 people Wednesday, health officials said.

The vast majority of those being monitored arrived in New York City within the past 21 days from the three Ebola-affected countries, the New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation said in a statement.

Others being monitored are the staff caring for Dr. Craig Spencer, the physician being treated for Ebola at Bellevue Hospital, the lab workers who conducted his blood tests and the FDNY EMTs who transported the doctor……"

Number of People Under "Active Monitoring" for Ebola in NYC Triples, City Officials Say | NBC New York (http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/active-monitoring-ebola-doctor-Craig-Spencer-bellevue-hospital-281671121.html)

Just because there have been no new cases reported in the US, this is not the time to let your guard down. To be safe, stay off of airplanes, stay off of cruise ships, stay out of public swimming pools, stay away from hospitals, nursing homes and doctors offices or anywhere where those infected might appear, stay away from crowded areas, and do not use public restrooms among many other things you can do to protect yourself.

With the NY Fire Dept. having to make 132,045 ambulance runs per month, as is the case for September of this year (see report linked):

Does anyone really think that the hospital, fire, and paramedic systems can respond to their normal calls and in-hospital and ER patients properly, if entire squads of firemen and their ambulances have to be taken out of service for decontamination, self monitoring of personnel, possible refusal to work, or for becoming ebola infected, if 10 or 20 of the 357 travelers from Africa become ebola infected and have to be transported while vomiting, bleeding, and having explosive diarrhea??

The article quoted says the vast majority of the 357 people being monitored are from the three ebola afflicted countries. STOP the visas!!!!!

http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/pdf/stats/2014/ems/cw/ems_cwsum_0914.pdf