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looneycat
11-11-2014, 05:15 PM
is there a specific deed restriction regarding easements on the course side of "golf view" homes. many golf communities have a restriction saying that golfers can retrieve a ball without trespass??

DonH57
11-11-2014, 06:01 PM
To my knowledge there are not. I don't know about the championship courses. I've only played the executive courses and there are boundary markers between the course and the yard. I've personally never walked passed a boundary marker to retrieve a ball. It was my understanding that is the proper etiquette here in the villages. I guess there would be nothing wrong with asking a home owner if you may fetch your ball if they were present.

Mikeod
11-11-2014, 06:44 PM
The golf column in the Sun frequently states a golfer may not enter a homeowner's property to retrieve a ball. Some people don't mind, some do. It's impossible to know unless the owner is present and permits it. I've seen people use a ball retriever to reach a ball without entering the property.

kittygilchrist
11-11-2014, 09:00 PM
My observation as an owner on the course is that it is a rare gem of integrity who follows the rules of etiquette. It annoys me that the average player tramps into my butterfly garden after the ball.

Bogie Shooter
11-11-2014, 09:16 PM
This is gonna take awhile.:popcorn::popcorn:

golf2140
11-11-2014, 09:24 PM
This is gonna take awhile.:popcorn::popcorn:

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowd own:

dbussone
11-11-2014, 09:32 PM
is there a specific deed restriction regarding easements on the course side of "golf view" homes. many golf communities have a restriction saying that golfers can retrieve a ball without trespass??


I've lived on courses in the past, including a TPC course. I've never heard of the restriction you note.

Edjkoz
11-11-2014, 11:23 PM
While I do not go onto someone's property to retrieve my ball, it amazes me tha those who live on golf courses are surprised when someone does.

er9027
11-11-2014, 11:25 PM
shouldn't live on golf course if you think people won't come on your yard.

Barefoot
11-11-2014, 11:37 PM
While I do not go onto someone's property to retrieve my ball, it amazes me tha those who live on golf courses are surprised when someone does.

We live on a golf course but there is a environmental area separating us from the course, so we don't have this problem.
When I golf, I would never go on a resident's private property.
I think that private property is just that -- private!

OBXNana
11-12-2014, 03:09 AM
We attended Good Golf School in The Villages and there are white out-of-bound stakes on the golf courses when there is a property on the golf course. We were told a golfer NEVER retrieves or plays a ball from a residents yard. It is private property.

These rules, and many others, were taught at Good Golf School. Personally, I think attending Good Golf School should be mandatory for anyone that wants to golf.

Knowing human nature, some do not follow the rules. We wanted to be on a golf course and purchased a villa with an iron fence and stone wall to keep the golfers and their carts out of our yard.

memason
11-12-2014, 06:58 AM
I live on a golf course and don't mind golfers coming into my yard to retrieve a wayward ball, so long as they have a little respect for my property and don't trample the landscaping, etc...

What I DO mind are the ones that drive their cart into my yard and hit the ball from my yard. It's not often, but it happens....

fred53
11-12-2014, 07:39 AM
I've lived on courses in the past, including a TPC course. I've never heard of the restriction you note.

it's not listed as a "restriction", but the explanation of it in this guide amounts to a similar no-no.

Walter123
11-12-2014, 07:40 AM
My observation as an owner on the course is that it is a rare gem of integrity who follows the rules of etiquette. It annoys me that the average player tramps into my butterfly garden after the ball.

Well then I know a lot of gems. We are average golfers and wouldn't retrieve a ball on someone's property unless we could reach it with a club or ball retriever.
IMO the homeowner should expect (especially this time of year) for some foot traffic. Not everyone follows the rules but most do.

looneycat
11-12-2014, 02:29 PM
I've lived on courses in the past, including a TPC course. I've never heard of the restriction you note.
Because you never heard of it does not mean they don't exist,
here's what I am referring to, personally, I do not retrieve my ball from a residents property.

Florida Property Law and Golfers

Under Florida property and real estate laws, golf course communities almost always have a section in their deed restrictions, easements, and covenants that allow golfers to retrieve their errant balls on residents’ properties. A section might read something like: "Every Lot and the Common Area is burdened with an easement permitting golf balls hit from the Club facilities to unintentionally come upon the Lot and for golfers at reasonable times and in a reasonable manner to come upon the exterior portions of the Lot to retrieve errant golf balls." It sounds complicated, but it gives golfers a legal opportunity to find and recover their errant shots, when reasonable to do so. If your Lot is fenced or walled, property documents generally require that golfers ask your permission before entry.

In short, it is likely that a golfer may enter your property to retrieve items such as golf balls (or pets) if they do so in a reasonable manner. Tearing down your fence would obviously not be considered reasonable. If your own property located on or adjacent to a golf course, you should become familiar with the applicable sections of any deed restrictions, easements, and/or covenants that apply to your property.

- See more at: Golf Ball Hazards In Florida: Legal Overview - FindLaw (http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/golf-ball-hazards-in-florida-legal-overview.html#sthash.ePbXgzGB.dpuf)

mickey100
11-12-2014, 02:55 PM
While I do not go onto someone's property to retrieve my ball, it amazes me tha those who live on golf courses are surprised when someone does.

I don't think people are surprised, I think just ticked off at the rudeness of trespassers.

rubicon
11-12-2014, 04:03 PM
Because you never heard of it does not mean they don't exist,
here's what I am referring to, personally, I do not retrieve my ball from a residents property.

Florida Property Law and Golfers

Under Florida property and real estate laws, golf course communities almost always have a section in their deed restrictions, easements, and covenants that allow golfers to retrieve their errant balls on residents’ properties. A section might read something like: "Every Lot and the Common Area is burdened with an easement permitting golf balls hit from the Club facilities to unintentionally come upon the Lot and for golfers at reasonable times and in a reasonable manner to come upon the exterior portions of the Lot to retrieve errant golf balls." It sounds complicated, but it gives golfers a legal opportunity to find and recover their errant shots, when reasonable to do so. If your Lot is fenced or walled, property documents generally require that golfers ask your permission before entry.

In short, it is likely that a golfer may enter your property to retrieve items such as golf balls (or pets) if they do so in a reasonable manner. Tearing down your fence would obviously not be considered reasonable. If your own property located on or adjacent to a golf course, you should become familiar with the applicable sections of any deed restrictions, easements, and/or covenants that apply to your property.

- See more at: Golf Ball Hazards In Florida: Legal Overview - FindLaw (http://statelaws.findlaw.com/florida-law/golf-ball-hazards-in-florida-legal-overview.html#sthash.ePbXgzGB.dpuf)

The easement is primarily for the benefit of Golf Admin.

If a homeowner posts a private property sign then to enter is to trespass.

Most homeowners on a golf course are very amenable until they begin experiencing golfers abuse.. i have had people drive their carts on to my lot and hit a ball can you imagine. its either disrespect or ignorance

billds567
11-15-2014, 03:22 PM
You are most welcome to retrieve your ball from my yard. Just don't hit your ball off my (OB) property or drive your cart on it.

EnglishJW
11-30-2014, 09:22 AM
You are most welcome to retrieve your ball from my yard. Just don't hit your ball off my (OB) property or drive your cart on it.

This strikes me as the most reasonable compromise. Unfortunately, a number of golfers don't follow it.