View Full Version : Another ISIS atrocity
Rags123
11-16-2014, 04:30 PM
is not even headline worthy right now. Just another beheading !!!!
Peter Kassig killed by ISIS, Obama confirms
Peter Kassig killed by ISIS, Obama confirms - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-video-claims-us-aid-worker-peter-kassig-beheaded-in-syria/)
graciegirl
11-16-2014, 04:35 PM
It is awful. We need to stop these people.
gomoho
11-16-2014, 04:42 PM
Are we really becoming that desensitized to this? How horrible.
Rags123
11-16-2014, 04:54 PM
Are we really becoming that desensitized to this? How horrible.
Understand now....the media is working night and day (or so it appears in watching news broadcasts) preparing to over Ferguson. Now THAT will make the headlines.
manaboutown
11-16-2014, 04:58 PM
I will not be heading to any ISIS held or threatened area or Ferguson in the near future. I want to keep my wits about me.
These barbaric beheadings are nauseating. I wish they could be stopped.
MikeV
11-16-2014, 08:47 PM
I have a neighbor who is of the opposite political ideology. We tease each other in a friendly way and have become good friends. I have a saying that I use when something like this happens which gives him a chuckle, but in this case I think it is appropriate. " Nuke em ". I don't really mean it but this time maybe I do.
tomwed
11-16-2014, 09:07 PM
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I wrote without thinking.
graciegirl
11-16-2014, 09:11 PM
These are Americans or our allies. THAT is our business.
Sandtrap328
11-17-2014, 02:44 PM
As more American soldiers go to Iraq, there is a very strong probability that some will be captured by ISIS. Also a very good probability that some may be executed by beheading by ISIS as a test to Americans to see if we have the fortitude to somehow "conquer" ISIS or to go home. What will it be?
sunnyatlast
11-17-2014, 03:03 PM
As more American soldiers go to Iraq, there is a very strong probability that some will be captured by ISIS. Also a very good probability that some may be executed by beheading by ISIS as a test to Americans to see if we have the fortitude to somehow "conquer" ISIS or to go home. What will it be?
"Going home" completely from Iraq has already been tried. That's not been working out too well. It probably fueled and fertilized the growth of ISIS even more.
Since 2001 or longer, it's always been a choice of containing the suicide and car bombings and IEDs and bioterrorism agents like ebola and anthrax to keep it over there, versus opening the borders and "playing nice", to invite the bloodbath and epidemics here on our streets, at more marathons or SuperBowls, or even at our military "workplaces" like Ft. Hood.
Like the ebola epidemic, keep it and extinguish it over there.
Rags123
11-17-2014, 03:11 PM
As more American soldiers go to Iraq, there is a very strong probability that some will be captured by ISIS. Also a very good probability that some may be executed by beheading by ISIS as a test to Americans to see if we have the fortitude to somehow "conquer" ISIS or to go home. What will it be?
First, there has been no beheadings of any "soldiers".
Second, are we sending ground troops for sure ?
Thirdly, wonder why our large coalition is not participating ?
And lastly your question, which I get is rhetorical, is not aimed at the correct audience.
It has been quite some time since I, personally, have had my fortitude pushed to its limits. Seeing those Syrian children gunned down in the streets about three years ago tested me. If you looked hard enough, you might have heard about it.
sunnyatlast
11-17-2014, 03:23 PM
Are we really becoming that desensitized to this? How horrible.
A lot of the desensitization comes from the favorite "news" broadcasters not even mentioning such things as the ISIS atrocities and latest beheadings.
Here are two example screenshots I just took. This is a big reason for how opinions are formed, and for how ignorance can actually increase by reading/hearing the news on only 1 or 2 sites or channels in a given hour:
(see what's in these, about ISIS and terrorism)…..
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46097&stc=1&d=1416254973
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=46098&stc=1&d=1416255190
billethkid
11-17-2014, 03:34 PM
what happened to the mission of "dismantle and destroy"?
The words about hit the nail on the head...we have become or are becoming insensitive to a lot of what is happening, not happening and winds up as just talk.
The lawmakers and the loose cannons in charge count on the apathy and insensitivity. Until that changes there is almost no fear of us (USA and what they MIGHT do)....and those who have vowed to kill us all will do so.
We either need to do whatever it takes to neutralize the killers.....while they are still in the middle east....keep them there and truly dismantle and destroy them.
OR get the :censored: out and let them do whatever they are going to do and still keep them over there.......and do more to assure the safety of Americans at home.
We are making the mistakes of Viet Nam look like childs play!!!!
Rags123
11-17-2014, 03:36 PM
Not sure we are up to the test, and as for the media, they are basically all in Ferguson, where from their point of view the important news is and will take plce.
Rags123
11-17-2014, 03:43 PM
what happened to the mission of "dismantle and destroy"?
The words about hit the nail on the head...we have become or are becoming insensitive to a lot of what is happening, not happening and winds up as just talk.
The lawmakers and the loose cannons in charge count on the apathy and insensitivity. Until that changes there is almost no fear of us (USA and what they MIGHT do)....and those who have vowed to kill us all will do so.
We either need to do whatever it takes to neutralize the killers.....while they are still in the middle east....keep them there and truly dismantle and destroy them.
OR get the :censored: out and let them do whatever they are going to do and still keep them over there.......and do more to assure the safety of Americans at home.
We are making the mistakes of Viet Nam look like childs play!!!!
We have already missed the boat, in my opinion. If we tolerated in this country the slaughter of small children in the streets of the Middle East, then maybe we just do not have it. At that time ISIS was really a JV team.
I hear so much about how small the world is when people are discussing economies, clean air, but guessing slaughter of innocents is a step below.
If I sound cynical, I am.
gomoho
11-17-2014, 06:29 PM
Not sure we are up to the test, and as for the media, they are basically all in Ferguson, where from their point of view the important news is and will take plce.
You are absolutely right, but I find it interesting that the FOX news channel AKA by many as "the devil network" finds a way to report on the good, the bad and the ugly. Unfortunately the uninformed can't see the forest for the trees and depend on the main stream media to keep them informed of what is happening in this world. They will report on Ferguson like it is the only issue we are currently dealing with in the world today - not sure if it is an attempt to stir the racial tension in this country or what the hell they are thinking.
gomoho
11-17-2014, 06:32 PM
On another note about this recent beheading I am so impressed by the parents that requested their son not be shown in that jump suit on his knees, but rather as the alive, caring man he was. I also am impressed by their public statement made today and pray the reason there was no video of him repeating what he was told prior to his execution was because his Ranger training kicked in and his last words to those bastards was F- -K you.
billethkid
11-17-2014, 07:36 PM
You are absolutely right, but I find it interesting that the FOX news channel AKA by many as "the devil network" finds a way to report on the good, the bad and the ugly. Unfortunately the uninformed can't see the forest for the trees and depend on the main stream media to keep them informed of what is happening in this world. They will report on Ferguson like it is the only issue we are currently dealing with in the world today - not sure if it is an attempt to stir the racial tension in this country or what the hell they are thinking.
Nothing more than the media managing what the public should be focused on, hence away from. While the world is burning around us the focus is on "local" news. The politicians are fully aware of the very, very, VERY short attention span of, unfortunately, too many Americans.
For example....midterm election message? Mandate? What about the deterioating infrastructure of the USA? What about the millions who have given up looking for a job?
The whole issue of immigration executive orders is nothing more than a beligerent grand stand play which also keeps everyboy's eye on the ball the powers that be want front and center.
And far too many of we the people just follow the pied pipers tune to oblivion!
sunnyatlast
11-17-2014, 07:53 PM
They will report on Ferguson like it is the only issue we are currently dealing with in the world today - not sure if it is an attempt to stir the racial tension in this country or what the hell they are thinking.
It keeps a huge voting bloc focused on their perceived national victimhood status, for which victims "deserve" more money as reparations.
While there's no doubt that Ferguson is a racial tension explosion waiting to happen, the police treatment of minorities across the nation are not all the same as Ferguson.
"BOSTON -- From Boston to Los Angeles, police departments are bracing for large demonstrations when a grand jury decides whether to indict a white police officer who killed an unarmed black teenager in Ferguson, Missouri…."
Why do cities like Boston, L.A., Las Vegas and others mentioned in this article assume the "police-abuse of blacks" identity of one ALLEGEDLY "racist" officer in Ferguson, MO as characteristic of all metro police departments nationwide??
Ferguson, Missouri: Police nationwide brace for protests after grand jury decision - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ferguson-missouri-police-nationwide-brace-for-protests-after-grand-jury-decision/)
Moderator
11-17-2014, 09:05 PM
Discussion has veered off topic. Please note the topic is actions taken by ISIS.
Walt.
11-18-2014, 03:02 AM
If you really want to get the media's full attention you need to capture an ISIS member and waterboard him. Granted, it would mainly be about the U.S. committing "war crimes"...
billethkid
11-18-2014, 08:01 AM
ISIS = NO FEAR!
Until such time as ISIS has reason to fear the USA or the locals or other countries nearby....they will continue to wreak terror and havoc.
They know other countries dwell and obsess on the safety of innocents and collatoral damage. As a result that is where they mingle and hide.
Being polite one can only characterize them as murdering cowards. How great they are moving in and taking over from civilian, unarmed populations.
It will be more troops to fight them on the ground or get out.
For some reason (obviously political!) we are more concerned about leaving than about winning or the consequences of leaving before an appropriate time.
Look at South Korea. How many years have we been involved there with how many troops STILL THERE? Note how many years it has taken with our help for the South Koreans to eveolve to a country with impressive military capabilities. AND OUR FORCES ARE STILL THERE!!!!!.
graciegirl
11-18-2014, 08:27 AM
is not even headline worthy right now. Just another beheading !!!!
Peter Kassig killed by ISIS, Obama confirms
Peter Kassig killed by ISIS, Obama confirms - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-video-claims-us-aid-worker-peter-kassig-beheaded-in-syria/)
I can't believe what is happening to this world.
By the way, your original title of the thread was THIS STORY. I am so sorry I thought you misspelled atrocity and I reported it. I know you are a good speller. I guess the moddie may have thought your title was not specific enough and the moddie changed it and misspelled atrocity.
I just want to clear that issue up because spelling is important to many and I know that changing the title has upset you greatly. I hope this post helps.
bump.
I was trying to clear up an issue for Rags.
I am aware what has happened to this world. I am worried about what is happening to this world now. I am extremely worried about radical Islamic forces everywhere. Just read that they just killed people in a Jewish house of worship.
Does your "short memory" remark mean to minimalize the radical Islamic threat to the world?
bimmertl
11-18-2014, 08:57 AM
Can't believe what is happening to this world? Apparently not a history major. Just a few wars worth mentioning.
10 Deadliest Wars In Human History (http://www.wonderslist.com/10-deadliest-wars-in-human-history/)
Throw in the top ten natural disasters. (Doesn't include the "great flood", if you believe in that one)
10 Worst Natural Disasters of All Time | Disasterium (http://www.disasterium.com/10-worst-natural-disasters-of-all-time/)
Only listed the top ten in each category. Plenty more to chose from if you care to look them up.
So, overall, things aren't quite as bad as those with short memories would have us believe.
graciegirl
11-18-2014, 09:06 AM
Can't believe what is happening to this world? Apparently not a history major. Just a few wars worth mentioning.
10 Deadliest Wars In Human History (http://www.wonderslist.com/10-deadliest-wars-in-human-history/)
Throw in the top ten natural disasters. (Doesn't include the "great flood", if you believe in that one)
10 Worst Natural Disasters of All Time | Disasterium (http://www.disasterium.com/10-worst-natural-disasters-of-all-time/)
Only listed the top ten in each category. Plenty more to chose from if you care to look them up.
So, overall, things aren't quite as bad as those with short memories would have us believe.
Does your "short memory" remark mean to minimalize the radical Islamic threat to the world? And particulary to us a mostly Judeo-Christian nation?
Rags123
11-18-2014, 09:10 AM
Can't believe what is happening to this world? Apparently not a history major. Just a few wars worth mentioning.
10 Deadliest Wars In Human History (http://www.wonderslist.com/10-deadliest-wars-in-human-history/)
Throw in the top ten natural disasters. (Doesn't include the "great flood", if you believe in that one)
10 Worst Natural Disasters of All Time | Disasterium (http://www.disasterium.com/10-worst-natural-disasters-of-all-time/)
Only listed the top ten in each category. Plenty more to chose from if you care to look them up.
So, overall, things aren't quite as bad as those with short memories would have us believe.
I am not sure if I understand your post at all !!!!
The original idea of this thread was to discuss the beheading and the lack of media coverage, while most were in Ferguson PREPARING for something to happen. The question then became has the media become so insensitive to this kind of stuff it is not even headline worthy.
Somehow the title of THIS STORY got changed and then posters were told they were off topic which they were not. Thus not sure what your history links means to anything.
I am a history buff, BUT I live NOW....the present. Discussing history is great...I just finished two great books....both historical and I suggest that what I meant in this thread was a bit different.
Throughout history, our press was past tense...something happened and that news was reported to us mostly with facts and very seldom with opinion.
Today in our instant world, it seems to me that the media tries to CREATE news and the beheading....BEHEADING.....not even making headlines and the main story of the day I began this thread was Ferguson says a lot about the media and a lot about the priorities we have in this country.
We enjoy great soap operas, not history or potential history making stories it appears.
I might add that it continues as we "speak"......Ferguson still out guns as far as media space and spacing even the killing of the 4 folks in Jerusalem who were slain while praying. So to bimmert I say...yeah, the world is a sucky place right now,historical references aside.
graciegirl
11-18-2014, 09:30 AM
Here is a horrible "now" issue .
Prayer massacre: Three Americans among four rabbis killed as Palestinian militants storm Jerusalem synagogue - AOL.com (http://www.aol.com/article/2014/11/18/three-americans-among-four-rabbis-killed-as-palestinian-militants-storm-jerusalem-synagogue/20995279/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D565714)
JB in TV
11-18-2014, 10:00 AM
Here is a horrible "now" issue .
Prayer massacre: Three Americans among four rabbis killed as Palestinian militants storm Jerusalem synagogue - AOL.com (http://www.aol.com/article/2014/11/18/three-americans-among-four-rabbis-killed-as-palestinian-militants-storm-jerusalem-synagogue/20995279/?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D565714)
Yes, Gracie, THIS is beyond horrible. I have no words to describe it. AND these b*****ds are being hailed as heros???
Rags123
11-18-2014, 10:35 AM
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11-18-2014, 10:56 AM
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