What do you think happened in Ferguson?

[graciegirl]

Will the officer be indicted? Do you think this is similar or different than the Trayvon Martin killing?

[Boudicca]

Very little has been heard concerning the officer's injuries - a broken eye socket and other facial injuries. These wounds are consistent with an observer's statement that the officer was struck through the open cruiser window by the man who was ultimately killed. Hopefully those in charge will relate the entire events of that sad day. People will either trust, or not.

[MikeV]

Dr. Biden was on this morning and in a sort of round about way said that that the officer's story is corroborated by the autopsy evidence. When the Grand Jury does not indite the officer it will not satisfy the hate mongers and riots will ensue.

[JB in TV]

Without witnessing the tragic event personally, it is very hard to comment. My hope is that justice is served, and that the population in the area is ok with the results. Protesting and violence doesn't bring back the departed.

[Boudicca]

Sad, but true, MikeV

[Walter123]

Dr. Biden was on this morning and in a sort of round about way said that that the officer's story is corroborated by the autopsy evidence. When the Grand Jury does not indite the officer it will not satisfy the hate mongers and riots will ensue.

Yep, just in time for holiday shopping.

[Walter123]

Will the officer be indicted? Do you think this is similar or different than the Trayvon Martin killing?

This is way different from the Martin case. Apples and oranges.

[TheVillageChicken]

It cannot go smoothly. The Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons of the world depend on racial conflict for their livelihood, have significant influence, and do their best to promote black discontent.

[Chi-Town]

Here is an example of how facts get distorted:

http://www.snopes.com/info/news/wilson.asp

[TVMayor]

If I was in charge this is now I would control the crowd, the good news is it is now 24 degrees in Ferguson.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Tanqueta.jpg/330px-Tanqueta.jpg

[MarkinMd]

I'm guessing that he will not be indicted on any major charges. After that the professional rioters, agitators, etc will show up. After that the Attorney General along with all the resources of the Department of Justice will do their best to charge the officer with Civil Rights violations. I will stay out of the political arguments but unfortunately the politicians are going to do whats best for them politically regardless of the officers guilt or not.

















I think this case is nothing like the Trayvon Martin case

[George Bieniaszek]

I would hold a Job Fair in Ferguson!! I bet the rioters and looters will scatter :)

[TexaninVA]

Dr. Biden was on this morning and in a sort of round about way said that that the officer's story is corroborated by the autopsy evidence. When the Grand Jury does not indite the officer it will not satisfy the hate mongers and riots will ensue.

Yes, agree that this is the most likely outcome.

[billethkid]

the case has sort of downgraded to like a pilot light in a furnace. Just flickering harmlessly. And then we have the media and the Jackson's and the Sharptons and all the imported hell raisers all marching in lock step to throw their fuel onto the harmless flickering pilot flame.

Nothing in it for the hordes imported to demonstrate. And everything to gain for the media and racist antagonists.

It will get ugly and there will be attempts to make it spill across the country.

Just watch the media as they play it out every hour of every day.

All we can hope for is that the people....all flavors and colors do not let it happen. Remember all the media, Jackson, Sharpton, the imported demonstrators....none of them live there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rubicon]

Let's be clear here. The only reason this story has or had legs was because of the claims of it being a racist shooting by a white cop. So whether indicted or not a riot will commence. The only difference will be the extent. If no indictment St Louis will burn. If indicted some will riot to express their contempt for the fact that it happened.

[sunnyatlast]

It would be nice if the protesters had the maturity to see the value of "innocent until proven guilty", because one day they or their son/daughter/spouse could be the one about whom the grand jury is deciding to indict or not. A thinking, logical person would want everyone to be treated as innocent until proven guilty.

Instead, idle people have been incited to terrorize to get their way with vigilante "justice", like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwJrG2AMghw

And apparently nobody in black elected leadership is teaching them to respect the rule of law and the grand jury process, and to go home and work on being a student or work on finding a job and being useful.

Here is grand jury info:
Answers to questions about the Ferguson grand jury (http://news.yahoo.com/answers-questions-ferguson-grand-jury-064007804.html)

[justjim]

Without knowing all the facts regarding the case it is difficult to know what the Grand Jury might do. The spin the various media put on it only makes it more confusing to all of us lay people. This shooting is very different from the Martin case.

[Rags123]

Let's be clear here. The only reason this story has or had legs was because of the claims of it being a racist shooting by a white cop. So whether indicted or not a riot will commence. The only difference will be the extent. If no indictment St Louis will burn. If indicted some will riot to express their contempt for the fact that it happened.


America is being held hostage, one incident at a time.

[outlaw]

There are some similarities between Ferguson and Sanford. Mainly, that a violent attacker was shot and killed by the attacker's target.

[manaboutown]

Let's be clear here. The only reason this story has or had legs was because of the claims of it being a racist shooting by a white cop. So whether indicted or not a riot will commence. The only difference will be the extent. If no indictment St Louis will burn. If indicted some will riot to express their contempt for the fact that it happened.

I agree with Rubicon's statement.

The imported professional riot leaders are on site, organized, have their plans, rioters all lined up and are ready to go - no matter what. We can thank the usual race baiters, the Sharptons, Jacksons and others of their ilk for this - again.

I am somewhat relieved the governor has plans in place.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Being a retired LEO and having read everything I can get access to, there is no doubt that Officer Darren Wilson will not be indicted (no true bill) by the GJ. That kid was no saint; he was just a punk thug that had just strong armed robbed a c-store and didn't have any respect for the law. Officer Wilson feared for his life whenever the subject reached in the Tahoe, accosted the officer and tried to take his weapon. Again, there will be no indictment.

Unfortunately, there are going to be riots, worse than in August, and people coming in from outside the Ferguson area will be the main instigators, as they were in August. Having lived in STL from 2004 to 2012, I have several friends that live in Ferguson and they are really scared with what's going to happen.

IMHO, Gov. Nixon did the right thing in mobilizing the National Guard and declaring a state of emergency; they will not be passive this time, they will be carrying weapons while guarding businesses, shopping malls and high profile areas. That will leave the police departments, sheriff's departments and highway patrol to deal with the main groups of rioters. Also, there is word out that terrorists groups will infiltrate the groups of non-violent protestors to create a violent situation with them and police.

It will not happen until after Thanksgiving.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I would hold a Job Fair in Ferguson!! I bet the rioters and looters will scatter :)

The only businesses that WERE NOT looted and burned in August were places that sold work clothes and equipment. :shrug: And you what's really incredible about this? We financed the rioters doing this with the welfare checks we give them. :cus:

[dillywho]

What basically the media and everyone else has ignored is that if this kid had not committed a crime in the first place, he would not have been shot whether he was unarmed or armed.

Why is everyone so willing to give HIM a pass as though he had no part in his own demise? Does it not make for as good a news story if this is not brought forth? I have yet to hear any coverage say that he brought it on himself. The officer did not go out that day with the idea of taking out an unarmed kid.....of any race. He was doing his job and having to defend himself during the process. Mike Brown was out with the intent to rob and assault. Therein lies the difference.

[tomwed]

Here is an example of how facts get distorted:

snopes.com: Darren Wilson Injury Photo (http://www.snopes.com/info/news/wilson.asp)
Thanks for pointing that site out. Do you use that site for fact checking?

[manaboutown]

Looks like agitator Sharpton is quite the tax dodger, too. Rev. Al Sharpton owes millions in taxes - The Week (http://theweek.com/article/index/272227/speedreads-rev-al-sharpton-owes-millions-in-taxes)

[wendyquat]

Actually, how do we know WHAT to believe? It's seems to be one lie after another!

[Chi-Town]

Thanks for pointing that site out. Do you use that site for fact checking?
Snopes is a go to site for fact checking. It has even become a verb. "Have you Snoped that yet?"

[pivo]

It was on the news this afternoon how obama said don't let up on the protest.

Also a few months back their was check on the most people visiting the white house and sharptons name was listed.

[tomwed]

Snopes is a go to site for fact checking. It has even become a verb. "Have you Snoped that yet?"

I just did. I'm putting it up there on my favorites bar. Thank-you

"So President Obama did meet with the Rev. Al Sharpton, among others, on 5 November 2014; but he did not meet with "Ferguson protesters" (unless one counts Sharpton, who has visited Ferguson, as a "protester"). The meeting was not conducted with a group of demonstrators, but rather with leaders of civil rights groups such as the NAACP and the National Urban League; and it was widely reported on mainstream news sites and blogs. The discussion at that meeting was not specifically about events in Missouri, and President Obama's only reported comment on that issue (which was related second-hand by the Rev. Sharpton) was an expressed desire to see civil rights leaders work to promote peace during potentially difficult days to come in Ferguson.

Read more at snopes.com: President Obama Secretly Met with Ferguson Protesters? (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ferguson.asp#LO3YooxKjSBaSoXx.99)

[manaboutown]

Who is snoping snopes? I have heard they are not always unbiased in how they report.

[pivo]

I don't know why my comment deleted. all I said was obama told sharpton to keep up the protest.
it's even on snopes

[Average Guy]

Who is snoping snopes? I have heard they are not always unbiased in how they report.

Was it an unbiased source that stated that snopes.com is not unbiased???

It seems like many of the things that people read and hear these days is not exactly unbiased. That seems to apply to both liberal and conservative news sources. Just my opinion.

[pivo]

I read it on the news this afternoon, and then I snoped it

[tomwed]

I don't know why my comment deleted. all I said was obama told sharpton to keep up the protest.
it's even on snopes

Where does it say "obama told sharpton to keep up the protest" on snopes?

[Pointer]

FYI, That is not a picture of the officer. It's been proven to be of someone else who was in an accident.

[claricecolin]

snopes.com: President Obama Secretly Met with Ferguson Protesters? (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ferguson.asp)

How does keep the peace equate with stay on course?

[pivo]

Hey Tom,,I read it on the news this afternoon and then someone mentioned did I snope it.
So later this evening I snoped it and read exactly what i read this afternoon.
He mentioned to sharpton don't let up on the protest, he said that two days after electio.
and the same wording is on snopes, you have to keep looking to the right hand column.

[tomwed]

Was it an unbiased source that stated that snopes.com is not unbiased???

It seems like many of the things that people read and hear these days is not exactly unbiased. That seems to apply to both liberal and conservative news sources. Just my opinion.

Here's what Snopes has to say:
Q: How do I know the information you've presented is accurate?

A: We don't expect anyone to accept us as the ultimate authority on any topic. Unlike the plethora of anonymous individuals who create and send the unsigned, unsourced e-mail messages that are forwarded all over the Internet, we show our work. The research materials we've used in the preparation of any particular page are listed in the bibliography displayed at the bottom of that page so that readers who wish to verify the validity of our information may check those sources for themselves.

Read more at snopes.com: Frequently Asked Questions (http://www.snopes.com/info/faq.asp#Z8Y8bZHywMEArKT9.99)

[Walter123]

a yahoo headline today.


Gun sales surge ahead of jury's Ferguson decision

enough saiid

[dplars]

Did an interesting search, google "who is protesting in Ferguson" Lots of outside rabble raisers.

[manaboutown]

According to The Wall Street Journal this morning Obama urged Sharpton to "stay the course." Obama (http://online.wsj.com/articles/obamas-ferguson-opportunity-1416356426)

Sharpton's course, of course, is to bus in outside agitators and troublemakers to create as much havoc as they can get away with. We all understand the likely result of this.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Actually, how do we know WHAT to believe? It's seems to be one lie after another!

Define who is lying? If you mean the racially biased "no respect for the law or the truth" residents/witnesses of the projects where this happened, the "stand by for breaking news in Ferguson" media, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Eric Holder or the POTUS, you're spot on.

[pivo]

Getting back to obama and sharpton, sharpton is a consultant for obama

does anyone know what he is a consultant for.

[tomwed]

Getting back to obama and sharpton, sharpton is a consultant for obama

does anyone know what he is a consultant for.

He's Obama's tax adviser. [I was shooting for satire. My hunch is that Obama would prefer to distance himself from someone that has IRS problems or banking business problems.]

[kcrazorbackfan]

Getting back to obama and sharpton, sharpton is a consultant for obama

does anyone know what he is a consultant for.

Uh, how to get more welfare sent to the majority of Ferguson residents? :$: Or, just maybe how to re-implement WPA (Work Progress Administration) programs to get the majority of Ferguson residents back to work. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[janmcn]

Getting back to obama and sharpton, sharpton is a consultant for obama

does anyone know what he is a consultant for.

Comprehensive immigration reform.

[TheVillageChicken]

I would hold a Job Fair in Ferguson!! I bet the rioters and looters will scatter :)

You could also announce that a task force looking for deadbeat dads will be there.

[Deseylou]

I will NEVER understand how rioting and looting get your point across.
How does stealing a big TV help your cause
I fear that no matter what happens chaos will erupt
I'm afraid it will spread to other areas as well
Pray for our nation
Debbie

[billethkid]

Comprehensive immigration reform.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Stdole]

If you are among the Non-Believers of Officer Wilson..[U] and the Police Dept there.... if you have any relatives or friends that live in Ferguson.. make sure they have the phone numbers of the PROTESTORS especially the out of towners.... should they need help in the future... I would recommend if they are among this group, have patience for your help to arrive! It may be weeks or months and most likely never! Wanta bet?

[TexaninVA]

Getting back to obama and sharpton, sharpton is a consultant for obama

does anyone know what he is a consultant for.

He's an expert in tax evasion ... owes something like $4 million in back taxes plus, as an added bonus, routinely stiffs paying his hotel and residential rent bills.

[Chi-Town]

Define who is lying? If you mean the racially biased "no respect for the law or the truth" residents/witnesses of the projects where this happened, the "stand by for breaking news in Ferguson" media, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Eric Holder or the POTUS, you're spot on.
Now that's some racial bias roundup you've got there.

[kcrazorbackfan]

If you are among the Non-Believers of Officer Wilson..[U] and the Police Dept there.... if you have any relatives or friends that live in Ferguson.. make sure they have the phone numbers of the PROTESTORS especially the out of towners.... should they need help in the future... I would recommend if they are among this group, have patience for your help to arrive! It may be weeks or months and most likely never! Wanta bet?

^^^^THIS (I was asked in another post what ^^^^This meant - it means I totally agree).

[billethkid]

Now that's some racial bias roundup you've got there.

Listing what one thinks about the people named makes it racist?
Or is it because they all happen to be black therefore it is racist?

By such a guideline then prisons, many sports teams are also racist.....eh?

The race card is so illogically and inconsistently used and abused just like political correctness!

[Moderator]

This thread has strayed far off the original topic. It is closed.