Anonymous vs KKK

[Xcuse]

Apparently the hacker group Anonymous has declared cyberwar on the KKK groups involved in Ferguson,Mo.,claiming they are reacting to threats of violence to their members by the KKK. Since Anonymous claims to be in favor of freedom of expression do you think they are justified in attacking the KKK by taking over the KKK's twitter accounts and possibly posting identities of KKK members on line?

[graciegirl]

Apparently the hacker group Anonymous has declared cyberwar on the KKK groups involved in Ferguson,Mo.,claiming they are reacting to threats of violence to their members by the KKK. Since Anonymous claims to be in favor of freedom of expression do you think they are justified in attacking the KKK by taking over the KKK's twitter accounts and possibly posting identities of KKK members on line?

Your post isn't clear but I can't imagine that anyone would be behind the KKK or support them for any reason.

WHO is reacting to threats of violence from WHOM?

[redwitch]

Sadly, the KKK has as much right to freedom of speech as anyone else. So, while I loathe the organization, I do believe Anonymous is wrong in this.

If they are inciting violence, then their posts should be forwarded to the proper authorities.

[Xcuse]

Your post isn't clear but I can't imagine that anyone would be behind the KKK or support them for any reason.

WHO is reacting to threats of violence from WHOM?

Anonymous claims it is reacting to threats of violence from the KKK in Ferguson,Mo.

[graciegirl]

Who is Anonymous?

[sunnyatlast]

There are too many people with nothing else to do but b**ch and protest and try to extort money from some other poor working stiffs paying taxes.

And that's not just in Ferguson, but everywhere in this country.

An old adage from a creaky old teacher I had in 1962:

"Idle hands are the devil's workshop."

[janmcn]

Apparently the hacker group Anonymous has declared cyberwar on the KKK groups involved in Ferguson,Mo.,claiming they are reacting to threats of violence to their members by the KKK. Since Anonymous claims to be in favor of freedom of expression do you think they are justified in attacking the KKK by taking over the KKK's twitter accounts and possibly posting identities of KKK members on line?

Hopefully the protestors will exercise their second amendment rights and arm themselves for protection against these KKK members.

[graciegirl]

Say Goodnight Gracie.

[tomwed]

Say Goodnight Gracie.
Goodnight Gracie

[manaboutown]

Good grief Charlie Brown!

[gomoho]

Gracie - I am having difficulty following the OP as well. Don't have a clue who Anonymous is and why they are outing the KKK.

[billethkid]

subject does not quite make my list....gotta go let the dog out!

[claricecolin]

Anonymous (group) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group))

I think this gives a good description.

[dplars]

I agree with RW, selective censorship, if its ok to go after the KKK how about the Black Panthers or Muslim Brotherhood, both who are fermenting trouble in Ferguson.

[graciegirl]

I think that it smells funny. No one in their right mind would support the KKK.

The KKK has diminished over the years to a very small number.(Thank God) It has no clout but it has a horrible history.

I think this thread is about some extreme ideas that most of us don't understand.

But, I I think Al Sharpton is on the other extreme. Hating is never gonna solve the race issue.

[Indydealmaker]

Past actions by Anonymous have shown that they do not always wear the "white" hats. They pull the trigger on inflammatory issues before all of the facts are available. They even posted on the web the identity of the policeman who shot Brown. That was after they even posted the wrong name.

This is one instance where the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend. Anonymous has questionable ethics as well as the KKK.

[Bogie Shooter]

Armed protestors............that ought to help.

[graciegirl]

It is going to be horrible. And we can do nothing about it. Even if the officer is proved clearly to be defending himself,there is going to be awful demonstrations and even deaths. Some people WANT to fight.

[dewilson58]

I think that it smells funny. No one in their right mind would support the KKK.

The KKK has diminished over the years to a very small number.(Thank God) It has no clout but it has a horrible history.

I think this thread is about some extreme ideas that most of us don't understand.

But, I I think Al Sharpton is on the other extreme. Hating is never gonna solve the race issue.



Speaking of Al.........interesting:
Mr. Sharpton has regularly sidestepped the sorts of obligations most people see as inevitable, like taxes, rent and other bills. Records reviewed by The New York Times show more than $4.5 million in current state and federal tax liens against him and his for-profit businesses.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Hopefully the protestors will exercise their second amendment rights and arm themselves for protection against these KKK members.

Are you serious? What do you think Law Enforcement/National Guard (which, btw, the NG is going to be armed this time) is going to do when protestors show up armed? Kick back and let them have their way? The KKK will the least of anyone's worry when this firestorm happens.

I hope law abiding citizens this time exercise their 2nd amendment right this time to arm and protect themselves.

[janmcn]

Are you serious? What do you think Law Enforcement/National Guard (which, btw, the NG is going to be armed this time) is going to do when protestors show up armed? Kick back and let them have their way? The KKK will the least of anyone's worry when this firestorm happens.

I hope law abiding citizens this time exercise their 2nd amendment right this time to arm and protect themselves.


Are you saying the protestors don't have second amendment rights to arm and protect themselves?

[rubicon]

Based on the Wikipedia write up and other comments on this thread I am not sure I care for either of this organizations?
it.
While I understand the rights associated with the right to protest, I prefer the rule of law and believe far too many people have moved away from

[Indydealmaker]

Are you saying the protestors don't have second amendment rights to arm and protect themselves?

Considering the fact that the crime rate in Ferguson is 28% higher than the national average, it is very likely that most of the protesters do not still have the right to own a gun.

[Xcuse]

Past actions by Anonymous have shown that they do not always wear the "white" hats. They pull the trigger on inflammatory issues before all of the facts are available. They even posted on the web the identity of the policeman who shot Brown. That was after they even posted the wrong name.

This is one instance where the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend. Anonymous has questionable ethics as well as the KKK.

Actually I was looking for more general thoughts on what is justifiable if a group that is anonymous (small a) claims to be threatened with violence by another group that is anonymous i.e. the KKK in this instance.
I think some posters feel the perceived threat should countered with a like threat i.e. get armed. In this particular instance the group claiming to be threatened is using the internet in retaliation.

[Indydealmaker]

Actually I was looking for more general thoughts on what is justifiable if a group that is anonymous (small a) claims to be threatened with violence by another group that is anonymous i.e. the KKK in this instance.
I think some posters feel the perceived threat should countered with a like threat i.e. get armed. In this particular instance the group claiming to be threatened is using the internet in retaliation.

If I understand it correctly, the hacking group Anonymous has not been threatened. They are taking issue with the KKK threatening the protesters. The protesters are not affiliated with Anonymous. Actually, Anonymous is a non-entity with no leadership. No one can threaten an entity that is invisible.

In reality there is no reason for Anonymous to be involved in this issue, but that is what they do; insert themselves into potentially volatile issues without invitation.

[Xcuse]

If I understand it correctly, the hacking group Anonymous has not been threatened. They are taking issue with the KKK threatening the protesters. The protesters are not affiliated with Anonymous. Actually, Anonymous is a non-entity with no leadership. No one can threaten an entity that is invisible.

In reality there is no reason for Anonymous to be involved in this issue, but that is what they do; insert themselves into potentially volatile issues without invitation.

Members of Anonymous have been involved in the Ferguson protests and they claim that these members were threatened by the KKK. That is the justification they are using for their internet attacks.

[Cedwards38]

Sadly, the KKK has as much right to freedom of speech as anyone else. So, while I loathe the organization, I do believe Anonymous is wrong in this.

If they are inciting violence, then their posts should be forwarded to the proper authorities.

Reluctantly I have to agree. There is no law against being a moron, but freedom of speech is a constitutional right.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Are you saying the protestors don't have second amendment rights to arm and protect themselves?

NO! Not if they cannot legally own a firearm. If they have enough sense (which most of the % of them do not have) to take a CCW class and pass all of the training and test - go for it. BTW, if they have a felony conviction, that will weed out the greater % of people legally able to carry a weapon. Seems to me then that the only protestors carrying weapons will be doing so illegally.

Seriously, do you want armed violent protestors going up against the Police and National Guard? I am very Pro Law Enforcement and even I don't want to see that happen.

[Indydealmaker]

Members of Anonymous have been involved in the Ferguson protests and they claim that these members were threatened by the KKK. That is the justification they are using for their internet attacks.

Kind of silly, when you think about it. If they are "anonymous" then how could they be threatened?

[Rags123]

This is a partial list of groups that are KNOWN to be there for sure just waiting their turn to destroy and shout hate. This list does not include the signs refering to ISIS.


REVOLUTIONARY COMMUNIST PARTY:
ANARCHIST CELLS: The exact number of anarchists in Ferguson is unknown, but they have been a distinct presence during the nightly protests
NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF COLORED PEOPLE:
NATION OF ISLAM:
NEW BLACK PANTHERS & BLACK LAWYERS FOR JUSTICE:
ANONYMOUS:
TIBETAN MONKS:
JEWISH VOICE FOR PEACE

From Anarchists to Tibetan Monks, Here Are Some of the Outsiders Joining Protests in Ferguson | Mother Jones (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/08/outside-groups-protests-ferguson)

We should be proud.....a guy robs a convenience store, attacks a cop, and is shot dead and look what it brings.

Yep, they all have the right to speak......and the world watches as another american small town is destroyed....just think of the reason for this destruction....again....a guy robs a convenience store, attacks a cop, and is shot dead and look what it brings.

I saw a poster suggest that folks should be able to arm themselves to fight the KKK, which for some reason did not make this list but I assume they are there. Based on wanting to arm folks as posted, what a great place for a gun show !!!

[tomwed]

[QUOTE=Rags123;970834]This is a partial list of groups that are KNOWN to be there for sure just waiting their turn to destroy and shout hate. This list does not include the signs refering to ISIS.[/url]

This story from Mother Jones is from Wed Aug. 20, 2014 12:00 PM EDT

I would like to think that the FBI and other law enforcement agencies know more then I do about who is there now. That they have been infiltrating organizations who are up to no good. And I believe they are there ready to protect law abiding citizens. I also think the NSA knows more about Anonymous then they are willing to share.
Maybe I'm a dreamer.