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Villages PL
11-22-2014, 02:51 PM
Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Muhammad, John the Baptist, Quakers, Dalai Lama, Mohandas Gandhi, Mother Teresa, and many others all had something in common. They all lived simple ascetic lives.
This allowed them to concentrate exclusively on the spiritual or intellectual life of the mind.
Is that the all important lesson to be learned, that less is better?
What would they think of the way most people celebrate holidays today, like Thanksgiving and Christmas?
What can we do to become more aligned with their lifestyle?
tomwed
11-22-2014, 02:56 PM
yes
TheVillageChicken
11-22-2014, 03:42 PM
I want it all.
Bogie Shooter
11-22-2014, 03:44 PM
No.
Uptown Girl
11-22-2014, 04:04 PM
Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Muhammad, John the Baptist, Quakers, Dalai Lama, Mohandas Gandhi, Mother Teresa, and many others all had something in common. They all lived simple ascetic lives.
This allowed them to concentrate exclusively on the spiritual or intellectual life of the mind.
Is that the all important lesson to be learned, that less is better?
What would they think of the way most people celebrate holidays today, like Thanksgiving and Christmas?
What can we do to become more aligned with their lifestyle?
:ohdear: I hope this isn't a convoluted path to begin pounding the drum about obesity…….. again.
TVMayor
11-22-2014, 04:08 PM
Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Muhammad, John the Baptist, Quakers, Dalai Lama, Mohandas Gandhi, Mother Teresa, and many others all had something in common. They all lived simple ascetic lives.
This allowed them to concentrate exclusively on the spiritual or intellectual life of the mind.
Is that the all important lesson to be learned, that less is better?
What would they think of the way most people celebrate holidays today, like Thanksgiving and Christmas?
What can we do to become more aligned with their lifestyle?
I would do that why?
billethkid
11-22-2014, 04:10 PM
Must not be less is better when one Observes the majesty many in high places in religion live......too much pomp and little circumstance.
They set a very bad example of living the "more" lifestyle!!
zcaveman
11-22-2014, 04:11 PM
Jesus, Buddha, Moses, Muhammad, John the Baptist, Quakers, Dalai Lama, Mohandas Gandhi, Mother Teresa, and many others all had something in common. They all lived simple ascetic lives.
This allowed them to concentrate exclusively on the spiritual or intellectual life of the mind.
Is that the all important lesson to be learned, that less is better?
What would they think of the way most people celebrate holidays today, like Thanksgiving and Christmas?
What can we do to become more aligned with their lifestyle?
In your opinion, why would we want to be more aligned with their life styles? They probably celebrated occasions in their lives.
It is better than what we have now?
Z
manaboutown
11-22-2014, 04:13 PM
Frankly, I would prefer the lifestyle of say Donald Trump, a Rothschild, Roosevelt or even a Kennedy to one of needless, perhaps even senseless, deprivation.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-22-2014, 04:19 PM
It depends on less of what. Less love, kindness and politeness are not better.
Less hate, murder and anger is better.
I don't know how much of an ascetic life Jesus lived. As far as I know, he ate everything that those around him ate, and he drank wine. The only thing that I know that he abstained from was sex. Is less sex better? I don't know.
Less money better? I don't think so.Less food better? At what point. For the millions of starving people around the world, less food is not better.
kcrazorbackfan
11-22-2014, 05:36 PM
We're about to find out; moving from a 2,500 sq. ft. home in KC to a 1,600 sq. ft. one in TV. Every time we rented a home in AZ or AR it has been a smaller home and we really like them.
Seriously, I grew up as poor as a church mouse but we always had plenty of food from the garden, decent clothes to wear and parents who did everything they could for my brother and I. An ex-wife darn near broke me but my wife and I have built up a pretty good retirement and plan to spend my kids inheritance living in TV.
DianeM
11-22-2014, 06:19 PM
More is good. I want it all quite frankly.
tomwed
11-22-2014, 06:54 PM
More is good. I want it all quite frankly.
Not me. The more we got, the more shelves I had to build. I must have told my kids one hundred times the lesson I learned from Thoreau's Walden Pond: You don't own the cow, the cow owns you.
Two out of three were listening.
Walter123
11-22-2014, 06:56 PM
Les who?
manaboutown
11-22-2014, 07:00 PM
Les who?
Les Moore
dbussone
11-22-2014, 07:14 PM
As Tennessee Ernie Ford used to say: bless your pea pickin little heart.
tomwed
11-22-2014, 07:48 PM
As Tennessee Ernie Ford used to say: bless your pea pickin little heart.
I remember that. I can see him sitting on that stool at the end of the show. thank-you
I never understood what he meant. I'm from New Jersey.
CFrance
11-22-2014, 07:55 PM
:ohdear: I hope this isn't a convoluted path to begin pounding the drum about obesity…….. again.
You nailed that one, Uptown Girl. Happy Thanksgiving.
cattywampus
11-22-2014, 07:57 PM
Les Moore
Does yuh supphose that culd bee Gary Moore's kid or kinfoak ?
dbussone
11-22-2014, 08:03 PM
I remember that. I can see him sitting on that stool at the end of the show. thank-you
I never understood what he meant. I'm from New Jersey.
Bless his or her little heart is typically a little put down in the South. I don't think TEF meant it that way though. I'm from MA but have been south since 1979. Bless my little heart!
dbussone
11-22-2014, 08:04 PM
Does yuh supphose that culd bee Gary Moore's kid or kinfoak ?
Does he have a crew cut?
DonH57
11-22-2014, 08:05 PM
More is better when you are talking about ammunition
dbussone
11-22-2014, 09:10 PM
More is better when you are talking about ammunition
Depends on the caliber, doesn't it?
DonH57
11-22-2014, 09:51 PM
Depends on the caliber, doesn't it?
Yes it does. Good aim is important as well.
Cisco Kid
11-23-2014, 08:54 AM
I can help anyone one the path to less.
I have a quick move removal plan for you.
lamplighter
11-23-2014, 09:06 AM
I think it is a matter of not being ruled by your money or possessions.
Patty55
11-23-2014, 10:56 AM
Back in the day I always wanted more, now I just want enough.
BarryRX
11-23-2014, 10:58 AM
:ohdear: I hope this isn't a convoluted path to begin pounding the drum about obesity…….. again.
Thank you!
LI SNOWBIRD
11-23-2014, 12:16 PM
Les who?
Haha very funny
I believe that less is more when it comes to the application of perfume and after shave
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 10:32 AM
:ohdear: I hope this isn't a convoluted path to begin pounding the drum about obesity…….. again.
It could be about carrying less grudge-baggage from the past.
:)
Uptown Girl
11-24-2014, 10:50 AM
It could be about carrying less grudge-baggage from the past.
:)
That's a stretch- ha! :) but I will give you this much- carrying less 'grudge-baggage' as you call it, benefits one's one's entire being.
A 'simple ascetic' lifestyle is more about severely restricting yourself from every material satisfaction for religious purposes.
tomwed
11-24-2014, 11:41 AM
My "baggage" is so big it comes with wheels.
oooops--- i thought grudge baggage was just another name for plain old "baggage" that most of us carry. so i edited.
i don't carry any grudges of wrongdoings. for one, i can't even remember them.
Walter123
11-24-2014, 11:48 AM
A grudge is something no one should hold
It tends to make the kindest cold
It will change your day
From happy to bad
It will consume the mind
until surley you have gone mad
A Grudge is something that poisons the soul
Taking over the mind and body until you have no control
A grudge is a monstrous creature
That hungers for revenge
This hunger won't cease till your dying end
Grudges steal away your mind
They rob you of your thoughts
People will abandon you for you have been long lost
So live a life full of love and not hate
For if you choose the path of the grudge
Your life will end a cruel fate
For 'you can't shake a hand with a closed fist'
And a grudge is all you'll be left with
justjim
11-24-2014, 02:22 PM
Many of our generation grew up "poor" by today's standards. At the time, we didn't know or feel poor. That said, most of us worked hard and saved---making sacrifices for retirement. At this point, most of us don't want less---we already had less.
Bottom line, more good health for ourselves and friends is more important than more "material things" at this point in our lives.
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 03:29 PM
I want it all.
How is that working out for you? Life offers lots of options and we usually have to choose among them. You can be single, married or have multiple marriages. You can live in the city or rural area.
One good profession may be better (more effective) than multiple professions.
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 03:33 PM
I would do that why?
To concentrate on that which is most essential to you, whatever that may be.
CFrance
11-24-2014, 03:42 PM
How is that working out for you? Life offers lots of options and we usually have to choose among them. You can be single, married or have multiple marriages. You can live in the city or rural area.
One good profession may be better (more effective) than multiple professions.
VPL, I think you're taking TVC's post too LITerally.
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 03:42 PM
In your opinion, why would we want to be more aligned with their life styles? They probably celebrated occasions in their lives.
It is better than what we have now?
Z
They knew how to eliminate non essentials so as to concentrate on what was most important to them. It doesn't mean you can't have wealth. Warren Buffett concentrated on what was most important to him and became a very successful (wealthy) investor. It means learning to say no to things that don't contribute to whatever your goal is.
2BNTV
11-24-2014, 03:44 PM
:ohdear: I hope this isn't a convoluted path to begin pounding the drum about obesity…….. again.
:agree:
Another thread where the question is akin to, "how many angels dance on the head of a pin".
If one expresses any thoughts on this question, you can be assured of a rejoinder. :D
Oh wait, that's happened already. :smiley:
Bavarian
11-24-2014, 03:51 PM
I think it is a matter of not being ruled by your money or possessions.
Hit it on the head.
Use your possessions to support your family and give to genuine charities.
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 04:02 PM
More is good. I want it all quite frankly.
What are you doing to try to have it all? Are you taking singing lessons, piano lessons, dancing lessons, acting lessons, studying for you masters degree, working two or three jobs, raising a big family? Do you belong to 14 clubs?
Isn't there one special thing that has priority over everything else? If you say yes to everything, you may not go very far in any one direction. There may be lots of wasted effort.
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 04:09 PM
VPL, I think you're taking TVC's post too LITerally.
Of course I did but I was using his post to illustrate that no one can have it all and the importance of choosing among options.
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 04:21 PM
Not me. The more we got, the more shelves I had to build. I must have told my kids one hundred times the lesson I learned from Thoreau's Walden Pond: You don't own the cow, the cow owns you.
Two out of three were listening.
I agree. Before I moved to The Villages I lived in a two story 8 room house. Lots of extra rooms meant that I seldom had to throw anything away. When in doubt, save it.....you never know when you might need it.
When it came time to move to The Villages I felt like my junk owned me. There were lots of decisions to make but I finally got it down to a manageable amount. It's still too much but everything has sentimental value. :)
TheVillageChicken
11-24-2014, 04:24 PM
What are you doing to try to have it all? Are you taking singing lessons, piano lessons, dancing lessons, acting lessons, studying for you masters degree, working two or three jobs, raising a big family? Do you belong to 14 clubs?
Isn't there one special thing that has priority over everything else? If you say yes to everything, you may not go very far in any one direction. There may be lots of wasted effort.
Hyperbole, by definition, is not to be taken literally.
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 04:27 PM
I think it is a matter of not being ruled by your money or possessions.
Exactly. Warren Buffett is not ruled by his money, as an example.
And it goes beyond material things, like not being ruled by what others expect of us.
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 04:31 PM
Hyperbole, by definition, is not to be taken literally.
And, guess what. I didn't take it literally. But I'd like to know what you were trying to convey.
tomwed
11-24-2014, 04:34 PM
I agree. Before I moved to The Villages I lived in a two story 8 room house. Lots of extra rooms meant that I seldom had to throw anything away. When in doubt, save it.....you never know when you might need it.
When it came time to move to The Villages I felt like my junk owned me. There were lots of decisions to make but I finally got it down to a manageable amount. It's still too much but everything has sentimental value. :)
I do believe that's how we got the expression "When in doubt, Thoreau it out."
2BNTV
11-24-2014, 04:35 PM
I do believe that's how we got the expression "When in doubt, Thoreau it out."
Good one. :1rotfl:
Barefoot
11-24-2014, 04:48 PM
Another thread where the question is akin to, "how many angels dance on the head of a pin".
If one expresses any thoughts on this question, you can be assured of a rejoinder. :D:
A tenacious rejoinder. :shocked:
tomwed
11-24-2014, 04:59 PM
re·join·der
rəˈjoindər/
noun
a reply, especially a sharp or witty one.
"she would have made some cutting rejoinder but none came to mind"
synonyms: answer, reply, response, retort, riposte, counter; informal comeback
"what serious rejoinder could I possibly offer when you make such a ludicrous accusation?"
I've been making those kinds of silly comments ever since they sat me in the back of the kindergarten for two years. I never knew they were called rejoinders. Thanks
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 05:01 PM
A tenacious rejoinder. :shocked:
It's the same as, "I have nothing to say and I'm saying it." (From nothing comes nothing.)
tomwed
11-24-2014, 05:17 PM
It's the same as, "I have nothing to say and I'm saying it." (From nothing comes nothing.)
no comment
manaboutown
11-24-2014, 05:23 PM
For some strange reason a saying my grandmother used just came to mind. "An empty barrel makes the most noise."
Villages PL
11-24-2014, 05:33 PM
no comment
Ha!
:)
dbussone
11-24-2014, 06:06 PM
I do believe that's how we got the expression "When in doubt, Thoreau it out."
Oh boy! And now the barn door is wide open.
casita37
11-24-2014, 07:19 PM
Pound the drum about obesity.....it's important!!
Spending the winter in The Virgin Islands. Looking forward to cleaning up out diet with local, organic, vegan, yada, yada, yada......Smoothies made with all local fruits and so much more.
Walter123
11-24-2014, 07:22 PM
re·join·der
I've been making those kinds of silly comments ever since they sat me in the back of the kindergarten for two years. I never knew they were called rejoinders. Thanks
Me too! 10% of the time it gets me in trouble but it's worth the risk plus, I can't be cured.
dbussone
11-24-2014, 07:46 PM
Me too! 10% of the time it gets me in trouble but it's worth the risk plus, I can't be cured.
How can rein deer get you in trouble? ( I bet there's a story coming on this one)
Villages PL
11-25-2014, 11:56 AM
Pound the drum about obesity.....it's important!!
Spending the winter in The Virgin Islands. Looking forward to cleaning up out diet with local, organic, vegan, yada, yada, yada......Smoothies made with all local fruits and so much more.
Okay, since you requested it, I'll be glad to comply. Boom bada boom bada boom!!!!:boom:!!!!! How about those drums!!!
Now to be serious: This fits in with my opening post of less is better. Eating less high-calorie processed foods will help one to maintain a healthy weight. And a healthier weight means a healthier you.
Studies have shown that as one's BMI rises above the minimum acceptable level of about 18, the risk of death also rises. But one must also eat healthy foods. A BMI of 18, 19, or 20+ is of little value if it's achieved by means of an anorexic type diet.
I would advise you not to rely too much on smoothies. Drinking your food is usually not a good idea. Chewing food tends to slow down consumption and gives more of a feeling of satiety so you are more likely to know when to stop eating. And juicing is a bad idea because it removes the fiber.
Local vegan diet? Sounds good! Good luck!!
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