"Historic side" not what I envisioned.

[Russ_Boston]

Linda and I took a tour of the 'historic side' the day before we left. We came away impressed with the look of the manufactured homes and the way that they have been cared for. We had the impression that it would be very old and run down based on some comments that we heard here and there last week during our visit.

It looks like a wonderful place to live.

I think we'd prefer something closer to LSL but that is a personal preference based on location after visiting.

[Lil Dancer]

I agree - lots' of good things to be said about the historic side. I like the mature landscaping. There are some beautiful , large tropical plants over there. And many of the lots are larger than south of 466.

[Rokinronda]

I chose to be here on the historic side. I love my corner lot and my old oak tree!! My gardenias, bird of paradise, roses, palm trees, huge hibiscus, azalea, camelia, cactus, private lanai, island kitchen, etc....My "historic" home is almost 1500 square feet and very open and airy!!! My "historic" neighbors are great!! I can walk to the country club pool (with waterfall, entertainment and great food) and hop over the bridge to everything..........LOVE IT!!!!

[Lil Dancer]

Wow, it sounds beautiful, Rokin.

[BUC]

We're planning in the Historical side, is getting home owner's insurance a problem?

[nONIE]

BUC,

The historic side of TV is Beautiful and clean. Homeowners take great pride in keeping their properties maintained. I for one just love it on that side. It takes just a couple of minutes to get to SS by golf cart and the golf cart bridge is fun to cross over. I love the huge oak trees in front of my house(hubbys not as happy as I am about them) and you can buy a home on the golf course for surprisingly little$.

Foremost Insurance will Insure the manufactured homes. Please pm me if you need more info about Foremost.

[The Great Fumar]

Well I'll be d___med , After closer examination , IT IS HISTORIC , All this
time I thought it was HYSTERIC.......
Wondered why all the folks were so calm there ......

embarrassed fumar :dontknow: :dontknow: :bigthumbsup:

[redwitch]

I prefer the "older" (north of Rio Grande, south of 441) or historic end of TV. The majority of manufactured homes are very well maintained. The villas and ranchers have beautiful old growth. It is easy to get to LSL or anywhere else in TV for that matter -- at most a 15 minute drive by car, 30 minutes by golf cart.

Less restrictions, more personality. Yes, some people have tacky pink flamingoes and lawn jockeys but they are few and far between. Most have some very charming lawn decor. I think this end of TV just has more personality all the way around and the age group is nicely varied.

[The Great Fumar]

AAAHH BUT DO THEY HAVE TRAINS ??????????????

deaf fumar

[gfmucci]

AAAHH BUT DO THEY HAVE TRAINS ?????????????? deaf fumar
In fact, they do. The book Leisureville, in describing Orange Blossom Garders, says this: "Sam stopped briefly to chat with a friend in his friend's driveway. The garage door was open, and I spotted an elaborate train set with bridges, tunnels, and its own make-believe village." Of course, the author isn't so much into trains as he is to use this observation to serve his purpose in making the connection to The Villages.

[njgranny]

We looked at a house in the historic district when we were there in February. Didn't like the particular house, but I did think the area was great. Very pretty and the view from the pool area was beautiful. Our Sales Rep also pointed out some houses that were replacements for older homes. She said they were "triple wides."

There are some very good prices there, too.

[Boomer]

I liked the "feel" of the historic side. Does that make sense?

I sat on the porch of the rec center there and rocked and read while Mr. Boomer went to the Hangar Flyers meeting. It was nice and so were the people I met.

I also liked the swimming pool. I thought it looked very "Old Florida." You know, great Florida colors, like in a movie or something. Somebody said on here once that there is a pool where they play "Name That Tune." Could it be that one? If so, I'm there. 8) Is that pool considered one of the country clubs?

Boomer

[barb1191]

The ambiance is lovely on the historic side, and that's the only pool in TV with a hot tub, other than TV Wellness Ctr which is members only. At least it used to have one; haven't been there for some time. Not sure if any hot tubs have been included in any of the pools South of Rte 466. I recall a number of Polo Ridge neighbors would drive over to the historic side to swim in the pool with the hot tub.

barb

[graciegirl]

I loved the lush greenery, golf course and water views, and the individuality of the older sections, and I found the homes to feel spacious and were lovely inside, but I hated the profusion of lawn ornaments in front of some houses and Sweetie was worried about replacing a roof, air conditioner or water heater. I love that my house is new, but I really hate the close together feeling of the homes south of 466. I have thought about this and know that most people don't want to maintain large lawns when they retire, but it seems that spacing them further apart in the back, with maybe some kind of gravel or mulch would have been a little better.

[chelsea24]

I love the landscapping in the Historic side. I love all the big old trees. http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/treeswing.gif (http://www.millan.net)

Ever since I was a little girl, I've been madly in love with trees. I think they're very wise.

(I could do without the row of gnomes on one of the houses, but if it wasn't for them standing there, I'd never find Nonie's block!)

[TomW]

There seems to be a bit more character in the historic side with the trees and lakes, etc. Also, the OBH country club has to be one of the finest in TV and is a beautiful design that is classic "old Florida" and doesn't seem at all dated. We also like Cane Garden and Palmer but the newer villages feel like row on row of tight "vinyl village" homes. But they are new, come with a warranty, and in a few years the landscaping will mature. It seems they have incorporated more amenities (sidewalks, wider rec trails, etc.) as they have built South. So there is a trade off between the "settled" North and the potential of the new areas. NIce to have such a variety of chioce as a buyer.

[Barefoot]

I know that most people don't want to maintain large lawns when they retire, but it seems that spacing them further apart in the back, with maybe some kind of gravel or mulch would have been a little better.

GG, I believe the Developer wanted to offer homes in the newer ares at prices that would be affordable. Spacing homes further apart in the back would drive up the cost of the homes. Additional privacy is always available by buying a home that backs on a golf course. A more expensive option for sure, but we've found it well worth the money.

[francesco]

Just curious.....how hard is it to get a mortgage for an older manufactured home in the Historic section? We thought it was beautiful there also!

[Talk Host]

Linda and I took a tour of the 'historic side' the day before we left. We came away impressed with the look of the manufactured homes and the way that they have been cared for. We had the impression that it would be very old and run down based on some comments that we heard here and there last week during our visit.

It looks like a wonderful place to live.

I think we'd prefer something closer to LSL but that is a personal preference based on location after visiting.


Now, wait a minute. Are your talking about the "historic side" or the "pre-historic side?"

[redwitch]

Francesco -- If you buy a manufactured home built after 1989 (I think that's the cutoff year), you'll have no problem getting it financed. Before that, no chance.

[JohnN]

this is all really interesting, I'll have to make sure to visit there, thanks

[KathieI]

This is very interesting! I just found on line a villa in Rio Grande and it is beautiful. Is that village considered the historic side? To me, I thought anything north of 466 was historic??

Does anyone have any input about this village? The villa is wonderful with a gc view, I can't wait to see it in person. Thanks, Kathie (still investigating homes and getting bored with this.)

[chuckinca]

Francesco -- If you buy a manufactured home built after 1989 (I think that's the cutoff year), you'll have no problem getting it financed. Before that, no chance.



My brother just bought one built in 1989 and financed it with no problem.

[chuckinca]

Now, wait a minute. Are your talking about the "historic side" or the "pre-historic side?"



Jan:

Please define locations of the "Historic side" and "Pre-Historic side"

Thanks

[Hancle704]

Forget the tags, they really don't help. :dontknow:

For ease of reference consider:
East of Hwy 27/441
North of CR 466
-A.Lake County
-B.Sumter County
-C.Marion County
South of CR 466
South of CR 466A
South of CR 44A
South of CR 44
South of Orlando

When we bought 10 years ago we were on the "new side" as opposed to the "old side" of Hwy 27/441

Folks who now live in the "new side" (South of CR 466) will soon see their area re-tagged once construction starts South of CR 466A and then South of CR 44A and CR 44 and on and on.

[chuckinca]

How about

East side: East of 441/27

North side: North of 466 but not East side

South side: South of 466

[barb1191]

It do get confoozing..... :dontknow:

Simply put (I hope)....

The "historic" side is on the Lowes' side of Rte 441 with all the manufactured homes.

North Side is between Rte 441 & 466 including Spanish Spriings Town Sq

South Side is Rte 466 LSL side to Rte 466A

hope this helps....barb

[Boomer]

OK.

But who's got the pool where they play "Name That Tune"? Or did I just dream that?

Gotta find it.

"I been searchin' every which a way..." You know, like in that old song by the Coasters.

Why do I know this :edit: stuff? I think that song was circa 1957. :dontknow: Do know though, it can be a curse sometimes.

Since reading all this about the historic side, I have been outside working in my yard, while mentally moving to the historic side, where I finally find this pool, and then showing up there, whenever I want to, and lolling around at this pool of my dreams, where I can sip rum drinks with umbrellas in them, and where people play "Name That Tune" all day. 8)

Hey. Do not judge me. You have your retirement dreams. I have mine.

So if anybody knows where my version of Shangri-La (Hey, that's a song, too.) is located in TV, please point me to that swimming pool. Or did I just make all of this up?

Boomer

[Russ_Boston]

I think Chuck's description is the most accurate representation of the phrasing that i heard the most while visiting.

[chuckinca]

OK.

But who's got the pool where they play "Name That Tune"? Or did I just dream that?

Gotta find it.

"I been searchin' every which a way..." You know, like in that old song by the Coasters.

Why do I know this :edit: stuff? I think that song was circa 1957. :dontknow: Do know though, it can be a curse sometimes.

Since reading all this about the historic side, I have been outside working in my yard, while mentally moving to the historic side, where I finally find this pool, and then showing up there, whenever I want to, and lolling around at this pool of my dreams, where I can sip rum drinks with umbrellas in them, and where people play "Name That Tune" all day. 8)

Hey. Do not judge me. You have your retirement dreams. I have mine.

So if anybody knows where my version of Shangrila (Hey, that's a song, too.) is located in TV, please point me to that swimming pool. Or did I just make all of this up?

Boomer







It's under the Water Tower in the TV area East of 441.

U gotta get there before 10 AM or all the cabanas are taken.

The pool also has a rocky cave structure adjacent to the pool with a waterfall and a hot tub in the cave.

[Rokinronda]

Orange Blossom Hill Country Club pool has Karaoke DJs that play games including Name that Tune on the weekends. Time to get my membership renewed. Summer=Pool

[Rokinronda]

It's under the Water Tower in the TV area East of 441.

U gotta get there before 10 AM or all the cabanas are taken.

The pool also has a rocky cave structure adjacent to the pool with a waterfall and a hot tub in the cave.
You beat me to it, chuck, and a better locating tip!! Yes it gets too busy so shhhhh

[chuckinca]

It do get confoozing..... :dontknow:

Simply put (I hope)....

The "historic" side is on the Lowes' side of Rte 441 with all the manufactured homes.

North Side is between Rte 441 & 466 including Spanish Spriings Town Sq

South Side is Rte 466 LSL side to Rte 466A

hope this helps....barb




This will give you an idea of the location....follow along Morse Blvd from SS and you will see the Rio Grande Pool. Gives you some direction.
http://virginiatrace.com/maps/villages/neighborhood_pools.jpg


Barb:

The area East of 441/27 isn't all manufactured homes - there are about 15% or so "site built homes"

The area North of 466 runs North to Hwy 42. 441/27 is generally the East boundary of this area.

[chuckinca]

You beat me to it, chuck, and a better locating tip!! Yes it gets too busy so shhhhh



Ronda:

Ur right - the less said about the best area of TV the better for those in the know.

Chuck

[lynl6]

Have owned a place on the "Historic Side" for 6 years now. On Golf View Lake so we have birds, geese, ducks etc to watch and feed on our back deck and the golf course on the other side and a view of Orange Blossom Restaurant. Can hear the music on weekends (love it). For a while we had to get insurance through Citizens (the state group) but now have it with Modern USA. Our place was built in the latter part of the 70s and had no problem getting a mortgage but don't know about now. Our only problem is we have to have flood insurance which now adds over $250

[renos]

Orange Blossom Hills country club with their pool in my estimation is the prettiest club in the villages(Old Florida Style). Granted it could use some sprucing up inside. Orange Blossom golf course is one of my favorite championship courses in the Villages.

[barb1191]

This is very interesting! I just found on line a villa in Rio Grande and it is beautiful. Is that village considered the historic side? To me, I thought anything north of 466 was historic??

Does anyone have any input about this village? The villa is wonderful with a gc view, I can't wait to see it in person. Thanks, Kathie (still investigating homes and getting bored with this.)


Kath...This will give you an idea of the location....follow along Morse Blvd from SS and you will see the Rio Grande Pool. Gives you some direction.
http://virginiatrace.com/maps/villages/neighborhood_pools.jpg

hugs, barb

[Boomer]

It's under the Water Tower in the TV area East of 441.

U gotta get there before 10 AM or all the cabanas are taken.

The pool also has a rocky cave structure adjacent to the pool with a waterfall and a hot tub in the cave.


Hey Chuck,

Cabanas? They got cabanas?

Wow.

What other secrets do you know?

So I did not dream this after all.

Happiness. Happiness.

Cabanas and hot tubs and caves, oh my!

Thanks.

Boomer 8)

[chuckinca]

Umbrella drinks and food service to your table around the pool - sorta like a country club atmosphere.

[Boomer]

Umbrella drinks and food service to your table around the pool - sorta like a country club atmosphere.


You are kidding! Really! I am so there. 8)

I hope I will be able to talk them into playing "Name That Tune" more than just on weekends.

You know, for as long as I can remember, even as a kid, I have not been able to tune out music...or even Muzak. I sing along in elevators. I grab my grocery cart and tango through the aisles of wine and roses in my local supermart when that homogenized sirens' song in the background gets the best of me.

Now, at last, I will be able to embrace this madness.

And on the days when nobody plays "Name That Tune," I will just sit around and read about Warren Buffett while I listen to Jimmy Buffett. (But wait. I do that now. Back here in Ohio.)

So anyway, thanks for the information.

"If you like pina coladas..."

...You know, somewhere in all these many posts, I had a list of demands. I had 3 things on it as I recall, or maybe two. But the one thing I remember for sure was that I want a little yellow guy who looks like he is making music. You know, some notes or something.

Well, so far, my demands have not been met, not a single one of them. Maybe I will just have to throw myself a little snit fit.

Nope. Not my style.

I think instead of throwing that snit fit over the little yellow guy I want, I will just punch up fellow boomer Buffett on the iPod. ..."Quietly making noise..."

Boomer

[chelsea24]

By the time I figure this out, the entire Villages will be historic! :dontknow:

[KathieI]

Geeze, I asked a simple question, and now I'm confused!!!

But don't you just love these people, they are so wonderful and so knowledgeable even if they are directing it to an idiot,,,,, meeeee!! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-007.gifhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-007.gifhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-007.gifhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-007.gif

[nONIE]

Kath, your not an idiot, it IS CONFUSING. Or else were both idiots. naw, thats not possible.

Anyway, I dont think the village your referring to is considered the Historic side or the prehistoric side because it is South of 441. But I do know what village your talking about and it is just lovely!

[chuckinca]

Kath, your not an idiot, it IS CONFUSING. Or else were both idiots. naw, thats not possible.

Anyway, I dont think the village your referring to is considered the Historic side or the prehistoric side because it is South of 441. But I do know what village your talking about and it is just lovely!


Nonie:

441 runs generally North/South

Rio Grande is West of 441 and is a nice place no matter where it is.

[chuckinca]

Geeze, I asked a simple question, and now I'm confused!!!

But don't you just love these people, they are so wonderful and so knowledgeable even if they are directing it to an idiot,,,,, meeeee!! http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-007.gifhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-007.gifhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-007.gifhttp://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/fragend/confused-smiley-007.gif


KathieI:

Some people consider the area East of 441 as the historic side
Other people consider the area North of 466 as the historic side and the area East of 441 as the pre-historic side.
There is no consensus on what to call where

[nONIE]

OMG Chuck, you are definitely right, its a wonder I know my left hand from my right ! ::)

[chuckinca]

My wife is a California blonde

[nONIE]

but Im a brunette, born & bred! Theres no excuse for me! ;)

By the way, What is a California blonde?? :dontknow:

[chuckinca]

but Im a brunette, born & bred! Theres no excuse for me! ;)

By the way, What is a California blonde?? :dontknow:


A Beach Boys reference

[judylou]

We bought our manufactured house that was built in 1988 three years ago. We had no trouble with finacing or insurance. Our house is much roomier that most ranch style homes and it is extremely comfortable.
The neighborhood is quite nice with a variety of ages living there. I am sure some people will be moving shortly due to health issues and deaths in the family. That means more new people moving in everyday.
The southside pool with the hottub is wonderful. We go there sometimes late at night as they are open until 10:00 pm.
Our taxes are lower there and we are just a few minutes to the bridge. Our house fit our budget and the prices (as all over) have dropped some. But we are very satisfied with our choice.
I think the most beautiful view in the villages is overlooking Hilltop golf course and the pond in front of OBC.

[Frangyomory]

Much, if not most, of the Historic side is lovely. However, you don't have to go very far to find front lawns filled with lawn ornaments, etc. Also, I did hear there can be a problem with insurance coverage but that it is available for the manufactured homes.

The prices for the manufactured homes are still amazingly low and you have to see some to believe it. They are lovely inside. We have several friends who live on that side and have been in their homes. They are beautiful.

Folks over there have known each other for many years. Our friends have all lived there for ten to 20 years. These are very nice people who care a great deal about their neighborhood.

When we had the tornado, folks on the historic side who had orange trees gathered their oranges together and brought them down to the tent on 441/27 that was feeding the volunteers.

You just have to check out all the homes available and then buy what it is your price range. You can find some lovely manufactured/Village homes for a good price.

[Sidney Lanier]

The historic side (meaning the side of 441 away from Spanish Springs) is lovely; we enjoy every ride we take through there. We bought in Belvedere because we wanted to be near the Lifetime Learning College and the library--and also because we got an incredible buy privately through close friends of nearly a half century who live two houses away from us on the same street!

[eujaynia]

Forget the tags, they really don't help. :dontknow:

For ease of reference consider:
East of Hwy 27/441
North of CR 466
-A.Lake County
-B.Sumter County
-C.Marion County
South of CR 466
South of CR 466A
South of CR 44A
South of CR 44
South of Orlando

When we bought 10 years ago we were on the "new side" as opposed to the "old side" of Hwy 27/441

Folks who now live in the "new side" (South of CR 466) will soon see their area re-tagged once construction starts South of CR 466A and then South of CR 44A and CR 44 and on and on.



*giggle* ;) We purchased a Courtyard Villa in Bonita ... aaahh yes, the last kids on the block. NOT ANY MORE! It is incredible how quickly they put up those homes! It's crazy, man. And yes, the fact that I was use to 12 acres of wetlands full of nature, it was an adjustment. That is why we picked to back up to the golf course... it is an illusion of "more space" hehehe... I LOVE IT!!!

[colleenj]

I am in the process of buying a home on the "historic side". Not all the homes are manufactured homes though, I one I am buying is a site built older (1993) designer home. It is absolutely beautiful- pillars inside, a foyer you walk into, larger kitchen and volume ceilings. I was surprised to find this lovely home at a very good price- my villages salesperson explained that "many people don't want to live in the older areas". I love the character of the neighborhood and look forward to spending vacations there (for now and full time in the future) :)

[nONIE]

Colleen,


I agree with you, there are some really beautiful site built homes on the historic side, obviously people who loved that side of TV enough to rebuild on that site. We are on the "Historic" side also but in a manufactured home which we are very comfortable and happy with for now. When the time comes to go larger(and it will) I will be looking on the same side of TV for a sitebuilt home like yours. You were so fortunate to find one that was for sale.

I do love the hominess(for lack of a better word) and charm of the "historic" side of TV. It reminds me of the quaint neighborhood I lived in as a kid, mabe that why I love it so much and mabe thats also why I feel like I have come home every time I visit TV.

[Dutchman]

Help me understand why the time will come to go larger. I went from a 19 acre farm with 1890 era house to a 2 acre 1700 sq ft ranch home and my choice for the next move is a 1100 sq ft villa, ranch or manufactured.

[njgranny]

Dutchman,

I don't think I'd ever want to go larger either. We spent Jan. and Feb. of this year in a small two-bedroom, one bath cottage and it was plenty big enough for us. The bigger the house, the more taking care of it needs. I do want two bathrooms in our TV house :) :) :)

[LuauLinda]

Have owned a place on the "Historic Side" for 6 years now. On Golf View Lake so we have birds, geese, ducks etc to watch and feed on our back deck and the golf course on the other side and a view of Orange Blossom Restaurant. Can hear the music on weekends (love it). For a while we had to get insurance through Citizens (the state group) but now have it with Modern USA. Our place was built in the latter part of the 70s and had no problem getting a mortgage but don't know about now. Our only problem is we have to have flood insurance which now adds over $250

We like the historic side too but want a house on the lake -- is the $250 insurance fee monthly? I could manage with an older home if I could sit and look at that beautiful view all day!

[cquick]

I like the 'historic' side, but it seems difficult to get to the rest of The Villages. That one overpass bridge seems dangerous.

[njbchbum]

I like the 'historic' side, but it seems difficult to get to the rest of The Villages. That one overpass bridge seems dangerous.

oh, come, come, now! it's like anything - ya get used to it! you know - like using the golf cart lanes over lake sumter or navigating the traffic into/out of colony plaza! in fact, the bridge has less traffic than either of those other locations! ;)

[chuckinca]

We like the historic side too but want a house on the lake -- is the $250 insurance fee monthly? I could manage with an older home if I could sit and look at that beautiful view all day!

Probably annually.

.

[gocubsgo]

We have lived on the historic side for 4 years now. While it's true that alot of the people seem to over decorate their yards (mostly the 85 plus people), we find that the newer people tend to take better care of their houses. Slowly this side is being revamped due to the sale of houses to a younger crowd, younger being 60's. We live on a circle that overlooks a lit park at night and have a 75 year old tree in our backyard that provides wonderful shade. I'd rather have shade trees and parks in the older section than a house in the newer section with neighbors 6 feet away on 3 sides and bare landscape.
Also, our yearly insurance is $870.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

This is very interesting! I just found on line a villa in Rio Grande and it is beautiful. Is that village considered the historic side? To me, I thought anything north of 466 was historic??

Does anyone have any input about this village? The villa is wonderful with a gc view, I can't wait to see it in person. Thanks, Kathie (still investigating homes and getting bored with this.)


The villages of Orange Blossom Gardens, Country Club Hills and Silver Lake comprise what is informally known as the historic district. It is all southeast of 441/27. It is called this because it is the area where Harold Schwartz and his partner Al Tarsson started The Villages. The first houses were near the intersection of Aloha Way and Tarsson Blvd. Schwartz lived in a home there until his death. It is also where Schwartz's son, Gary Morse decided to build the first golf course, Silver Lake. There was absolutely nothing to the northwest of 441/27. The small plaza behind the Circle K was the first town square.

I've spoken with several people on this side who have been here since the beginning. Many knew Harold Schwartz personally and said that he would often be out walking and chat with his neighbors. He also had a habit of inviting people in on hot summer days for a lemonade or soda.

I'd really like to see a formal history of the historic side done so that what Mr Schwartz did can be remembered and appreciated by all.

[JB in TV]

Did anyone notice the almost FIVE year gap in this thread? The topic is still pertinent, just saying. :D

[davet]

Did anyone notice the almost FIVE year gap in this thread? The topic is still pertinent, just saying. :D
And thank you for bringing this thread up. For those like me that are still dreaming the dream and not yet living it.

[mickey100]

We have lived on the historic side for 4 years now. While it's true that alot of the people seem to over decorate their yards (mostly the 85 plus people), we find that the newer people tend to take better care of their houses. Slowly this side is being revamped due to the sale of houses to a younger crowd, younger being 60's. We live on a circle that overlooks a lit park at night and have a 75 year old tree in our backyard that provides wonderful shade. I'd rather have shade trees and parks in the older section than a house in the newer section with neighbors 6 feet away on 3 sides and bare landscape.
Also, our yearly insurance is $870.

I like the historic side too, although we don't live there. The lots are bigger, and the trees and vegetation is mature and beautiful. It just has a more established feel to it.

[janmcn]

I like the historic side too, although we don't live there. The lots are bigger, and the trees and vegetation is mature and beautiful. It just has a more established feel to it.

There are not a lot of manufactured home communities that have their own hospital, churches, country clubs, recreation centers, golf courses, bowling alleys, library, softball field, dog parks, grocery stores, drug stores, RV parking, movie theatre, downtown area, restaurants, grocery stores and every other shopping you could possibly need. This was Harold Schwartz's dream. It's too bad the younger generation running things today aren't following that dream.

[sjdjmd]

I find beauty in every Village.

[graciegirl]

There are not a lot of manufactured home communities that have their own hospital, churches, country clubs, recreation centers, golf courses, bowling alleys, library, softball field, dog parks, grocery stores, drug stores, RV parking, movie theatre, downtown area, restaurants, grocery stores and every other shopping you could possibly need. This was Harold Schwartz's dream. It's too bad the younger generation running things today aren't following that dream.

I don't understand your post, Jan.

[Mack184]

In fact, they do. The book Leisureville, in describing Orange Blossom Garders, says this: "Sam stopped briefly to chat with a friend in his friend's driveway. The garage door was open, and I spotted an elaborate train set with bridges, tunnels, and its own make-believe village." Of course, the author isn't so much into trains as he is to use this observation to serve his purpose in making the connection to The Villages.
Be careful when quoting "Leisureville". The true TV believers think of Leisureville as "The Satanic Verses".

[NotGolfer]

There are not a lot of manufactured home communities that have their own hospital, churches, country clubs, recreation centers, golf courses, bowling alleys, library, softball field, dog parks, grocery stores, drug stores, RV parking, movie theatre, downtown area, restaurants, grocery stores and every other shopping you could possibly need. This was Harold Schwartz's dream. It's too bad the younger generation running things today aren't following that dream.

I'm not sure I follow your closing comment! I would venture to say that even the "historic side" took time to come to fruition just as our new areas are. Harold was still alive when Gary took The Villages to the next step and I would bet he was "on board" with the concept!! I for one am happy with how things have taken shape. LOVE THE VILLAGES---life style and all!!!

:clap2::MOJE_whot:

[mickey100]

Be careful when quoting "Leisureville". The true TV believers think of Leisureville as "The Satanic Verses".

Really, need to be careful or the "love it or leave it brigade" will be after you.

[graciegirl]

Really, need to be careful or the "love it or leave it brigade" will be after you.

Boy howdy.

[Bonnevie]

I read Leisureville. It didn't dissuade me at all from planning to move there. I felt it was written by someone not yet exposed to the "joys" of older age. When he finds driving at night more challenging, he might appreciate a place where most of the activities end before 9pm.

[janmcn]

I'm not sure I follow your closing comment! I would venture to say that even the "historic side" took time to come to fruition just as our new areas are. Harold was still alive when Gary took The Villages to the next step and I would bet he was "on board" with the concept!! I for one am happy with how things have taken shape. LOVE THE VILLAGES---life style and all!!!

:clap2::MOJE_whot:

It's just too bad that more of the amenities that were built in the Spanish Springs area were not on the planning board when Lake Sumter Landing was designed; for instance bowling alleys, soft ball fields, a venue similar to Church on the Square, RV parking, dog parks, churches, etc.

[graciegirl]

It's just too bad that more of the amenities that were built in the Spanish Springs area were not on the planning board when Lake Sumter Landing was designed; for instance bowling alleys, soft ball fields, a venue similar to Church on the Square, RV parking, dog parks, churches, etc.

A very good point.

Thank you Jan.

[gomoho]

Don't know if it has mentioned in previous posts, but when I went to breakfast last Sunday at Orange Blossom CC and walked into their pool area I thought I was at a resort. So lovely with the pool, waterfall, and outside bar. Wish they had all been built that way - bet more people would be willing to pay to play!

[graciegirl]

Don't know if it has mentioned in previous posts, but when I went to breakfast last Sunday at Orange Blossom CC and walked into their pool area I thought I was at a resort. So lovely with the pool, waterfall, and outside bar. Wish they had all been built that way - bet more people would be willing to pay to play!
http://www.ourfloridahome.net/Tiki_Bar/Pool_and_Waterfall_at_Country_Club_of_Orange_Bloss om_Hills_The_Villages_FL.JPG (http://images.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=orange+blossom+pool+the+villages&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=ULPFic0kSZQQiM&tbnid=b-QkpA4gLHRoFM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ourfloridahome.net%2FOrange_B lossom_Hills.htm&ei=ojBWUYr4O4z09gTQtYDoDg&bvm=bv.44442042,d.dmQ&psig=AFQjCNGWJ4aFHPDiqEATUn3y3AXbMuSUMA&ust=1364689399697102)

[Uncle Tom]

Linda and I took a tour of the 'historic side' the day before we left. We came away impressed with the look of the manufactured homes and the way that they have been cared for. We had the impression that it would be very old and run down based on some comments that we heard here and there last week during our visit.

It looks like a wonderful place to live.

I think we'd prefer something closer to LSL but that is a personal preference based on location after visiting.

Thats the side where it all started, Harold lived there before he passed away. Actually that is a great place for a deal on a home and land. I have put offers on homes there for 50,000 grand, then found it sold for 65,000.00 The land alone is worth that and scrap the trailer if needed. You will see a trend of people doing this, and they still have all the great activities across 441, without spending 3 to 500,000.00.

[bkcunningham1]

Don't know if it has mentioned in previous posts, but when I went to breakfast last Sunday at Orange Blossom CC and walked into their pool area I thought I was at a resort. So lovely with the pool, waterfall, and outside bar. Wish they had all been built that way - bet more people would be willing to pay to play!

With traffic the way it has been the past week, I'm glad more people aren't willing to pay to play.

I don't know if there's any truth to it or not, but I've heard there is a bowling alley going in at Brownwood.

I love the OB Hills Country Club. I'm a proud member. I just wish the powers-that-be would spruce up the Country Club's interior. To have such a gorgeous place and see all the opportunity just decaying there breaks my heart. I'm afraid if I complain it will go the way of the other Villages' owned restaurants that have been shutdown.

[bkcunningham1]

The pool has always been like that, Gracie. I've never heard anyone say it was ever expanded.

[meboyle]

We were snow birds for many years, now we are finally going to be full time residents. Driving around in Orange Blossom just to look at the landscaping was a treat. The country club views are spectacular, the pool with its waterfall and tiki bar, music,and fun people all add to the flavor of the neighborhood. But the single most important reason to go there is that is where the "greatest generation" decided to retire. THAT is the reason it's so special. Go to the garage sales, and you will meet the greatest people on earth. People who will practically give you stuff, but have to charge a quarter or so. After all its the principal. We are losing many every day. Take a ride over and see for yourself, it's as close as we will ever get to "Bailey Park".

[falcon1]

Depends on the age of your home, and whether it is site built. Roof must pass the state's Wind Mitigation Inspection.
Len

[graciegirl]

We were snow birds for many years, now we are finally going to be full time residents. Driving around in Orange Blossom just to look at the landscaping was a treat. The country club views are spectacular, the pool with its waterfall and tiki bar, music,and fun people all add to the flavor of the neighborhood. But the single most important reason to go there is that is where the "greatest generation" decided to retire. THAT is the reason it's so special. Go to the garage sales, and you will meet the greatest people on earth. People who will practically give you stuff, but have to charge a quarter or so. After all its the principal. We are losing many every day. Take a ride over and see for yourself, it's as close as we will ever get to "Bailey Park".


What is Bailey Park?

I like when people call part of our group here the greatest generation. I tried calling part of us the ethical generation a couple of days ago and got a bit of flack. I like good things said about seniors of all ages because I am a senior. I don't know how that happened. Yesterday I was a kid.

But I know the flack givers will get older and things will look differently.

I thought I knew how to raise children perfectly too, before I had any.

[olgreeneyes]

Is Bailey Park a reference to the movie It's a Wonderful Life?

[justjim]

Meboyle: Great post especially your references to the beauty of the Historical side of TV. Bailey Park, huh? I like that reference to It's a Wonderful Life! Smashing!

[CaptJohn]

Is Bailey Park a reference to the movie It's a Wonderful Life?

That's what I was thinking too.

[chuckinca]

Absolutely stunned that GG was stumped on Bailey Park!

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[OldManTime]

Linda and I took a tour of the 'historic side' the day before we left. We came away impressed with the look of the manufactured homes and the way that they have been cared for. We had the impression that it would be very old and run down based on some comments that we heard here and there last week during our visit.

It looks like a wonderful place to live.

I think we'd prefer something closer to LSL but that is a personal preference based on location after visiting.

Russ, Think twice about living in LSL, do your homework. I have lived in the Historic side for 10 years. I also live in one of the many site built homes.

[asianthree]

wow this thread has a long run

[Schaumburger]

Russ, Think twice about living in LSL, do your homework. I have lived in the Historic side for 10 years. I also live in one of the many site built homes.

It looks like Russ started this thread in May, 2008. I believe Russ bought a home in Buttonwood last year.

[ssmith]

True, old thread but still relevant.

Did I hear that the Orange Blossom restaurant was closed or being re-done?

Also the historic side has to be awesome cause the BK Cunninghams live there!!!

I find the bridge to it a challenge!!!

My biggest objection is that my daughter has 4 kids (3 adopted) so I really must have at least a 3 bedroom.

[Bogie Shooter]

True, old thread but still relevant.

Did I hear that the Orange Blossom restaurant was closed or being re-done?
Also the historic side has to be awesome cause the BK Cunninghams live there!!!

I find the bridge to it a challenge!!!

My biggest objection is that my daughter has 4 kids (3 adopted) so I really must have at least a 3 bedroom.

Most rumors are reported or started on TOTV.
Put your cart in low gear to get over the bridge.:D
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/restaurant-discussions-90/piece-history-gone-79451/

[billethkid]

I love the reference to the "younger" crowd, those in their 60s taking better care of the homes than the "older" folks.

Really!??!!??

The type of landscaping is also not a function of age but a function of the rules for a given area. If the same rules of Orange Blossom Hills were allowed throughout TV, the appearance would be just like OBH!!

My sisyer lives there and I think it is one of the most comfortable neighborhoods in TV.

btk

[Midvale]

It is a really comfortable, laid back area. Here's hoping the Orange Blossom Tiki Bar reopens soon!

[Schaumburger]

True, old thread but still relevant.

Did I hear that the Orange Blossom restaurant was closed or being re-done?

Also the historic side has to be awesome cause the BK Cunninghams live there!!!

I find the bridge to it a challenge!!!

My biggest objection is that my daughter has 4 kids (3 adopted) so I really must have at least a 3 bedroom.

Any word if or when the Orange Blossom restaurant will be reopening? And I still have not driven a golf cart across the bridge over 441/27 during any visit -- I am a wuss :laugh: And I like the historic side and all sides of The Villages.

[Midvale]

Any word if or when the Orange Blossom restaurant will be reopening? And I still have not driven a golf cart across the bridge over 441/27 during any visit -- I am a wuss :laugh: And I like the historic side and all sides of The Villages.

Going up the bridge is easy since your cart will slow down. Watch it coming down, though. It will try to speed up, hit the brakes early.

Heard last night at Hacienda that Orange Blossom was "sure to reopen" and speculation was the tiki bar may change to one more like the Hacienda pool has.
From somebody who knows somebody's buddy who knows what's going on... Maybe.

[UpNorth]

I always thought that the Spanish Springs was the "Historic" area, and OBG was in the "Pre-Historic" side. :icon_wink:

[graciegirl]

I always thought that the Spanish Springs was the "Historic" area, and OBG was in the "Pre-Historic" side. :icon_wink:

Old, older and oldest is bandied around here...but mostly by a bunch of young snots.

JUST teasin'...well kinda.

I don't like when the under 55 groups say stuff that makes me feel like I am past being fun and alive and interesting and try to start clubs to exclude us kinda more mature and interesting folks.

Whoops, Champion just got on me for hijacking another thread and he is my friend. I don't want to aggravate the man.

[andercat]

Are all the homes in the historic area you are talking about mobile homes?

[senior citizen]

True, old thread but still relevant.

Did I hear that the Orange Blossom restaurant was closed or being re-done?

Also the historic side has to be awesome cause the BK Cunninghams live there!!!

I find the bridge to it a challenge!!!

My biggest objection is that my daughter has 4 kids (3 adopted) so I really must have at least a 3 bedroom.


On a map, is ***Orange Blossom Gardens in the Historic Section?

Also, is it close to Stonecrest which is in Summerfield?

A friend went to the Stonecrest site........it led them to a map.**
Also, their website stated that Stonecrest ??? was 3 miles from TV and that it was accessible by golf cart????

How could that be??????? Isn't that a highway???
Also, Ocala is above Stonecrest in Summerfield???

We toured the Historic side one day and were pleasantly surprised.
It wasn't what we thought it would be. Loved the big old trees and shady neighborhoods. It reminded us of a neighborhood in any small town U.S.A.

I just found out via an email that Stonecrest is 2 miles north of Spanish Springs for shopping, accessible by golf cart.

[tucson]

On a map, is ***Orange Blossom Gardens in the Historic Section?

Also, is it close to Stonecrest which is in Summerfield?

A friend went to the Stonecrest site........it led them to a map.**
Also, their website stated that Stonecrest ??? was 3 miles from TV and that it was accessible by golf cart????

How could that be??????? Isn't that a highway???
Also, Ocala is above Stonecrest in Summerfield???

We toured the Historic side one day and were pleasantly surprised.
It wasn't what we thought it would be. Loved the big old trees and shady neighborhoods. It reminded us of a neighborhood in any small town U.S.A.

I just found out via an email that Stonecrest is 2 miles north of Spanish Springs for shopping, accessible by golf cart.

It's true, it's 2mi. N. of Spanish Springs and Orange Blossom Village, There's a dirt/asphalt/parking lots of Walmart and other stores between the entrance of Stonecrest and Orange Blossom that will take you into all of The Villages in a golfcart. This appeals to alot of folks who would rather live at Stonecrest and still be able to come shopping,dining,etc. in TV. :-)

[njbchbum]

Are all the homes in the historic area you are talking about mobile homes?

there are a few of the original mobile homes still in the historic sections - most are now manufactured homes that are delivered in pieces and 'snapped' together. villages realtors told me some houses that i looked at were site built - but found out later that it only meant that the manufactured house was put together on top of a slab rather than positioned on a foundation with a crawl space! there are a few houses that are truly site built/stick construction - but not many - yet. some folks have opted to buy a house for the property and then gone thru the tear down/rebuild effort.

[Schaumburger]

Are all the homes in the historic area you are talking about mobile homes?

When I visited The Villages in May, a Villages realtor told me to drive to an address on Turnberry Lane, I believe this is in the Village of Silver Lake. She wanted me to see a site built home under construction. By now the home may be finished or almost finished. I see a preowned site built home on Turnberry Lane (may be in Silver Lake, but Trulia is saying Orange Blossom Gardens) listing for $168K. Looks really nice from the photos.

[Villages PL]

The information I got from an insurance company (several years ago) is that no one will insure a manufactured home that is over 30 years old. So, in order to get a 15 year mortgage, the home would have to be no older than 15years old.

Another example: If the home is 20 years old, you would only be able to get a 10 year mortgage. At the end of 10 years, you would have to sell for cash, unless you're willing to hold the mortgage yourself. No insurance company will hold a mortgage on a home that can't be insured. You would have to find a buyer who's not worried about being uninsured. And, of course, if you hold the mortgage, there would be a risk to you as the mortgage holder.

[jannd228]

Old, older and oldest is bandied around here...but mostly by a bunch of young snots.

JUST teasin'...well kinda.

I don't like when the under 55 groups say stuff that makes me feel like I am past being fun and alive and interesting and try to start clubs to exclude us kinda more mature and interesting folks.

Whoops, Champion just got on me for hijacking another thread and he is my friend. I don't want to aggravate the man.

I always enjoy reading your posts, this one is as my students would say "too funny" :)

[njbchbum]

The information I got from an insurance company (several years ago) is that no one will insure a manufactured home that is over 30 years old. So, in order to get a 15 year mortgage, the home would have to be no older than 15years old.

Another example: If the home is 20 years old, you would only be able to get a 10 year mortgage. At the end of 10 years, you would have to sell for cash, unless you're willing to hold the mortgage yourself. No insurance company will hold a mortgage on a home that can't be insured. You would have to find a buyer who's not worried about being uninsured. And, of course, if you hold the mortgage, there would be a risk to you as the mortgage holder.

does that mean that most of the homes are not insured in the those villages? do you think things might have changed since you spoke with that insurance company or that another insurance company would have a different point of view toward writing insurance there?

[Midvale]

The information I got from an insurance company (several years ago) is that no one will insure a manufactured home that is over 30 years old. So, in order to get a 15 year mortgage, the home would have to be no older than 15years old.

Another example: If the home is 20 years old, you would only be able to get a 10 year mortgage. At the end of 10 years, you would have to sell for cash, unless you're willing to hold the mortgage yourself. No insurance company will hold a mortgage on a home that can't be insured. You would have to find a buyer who's not worried about being uninsured. And, of course, if you hold the mortgage, there would be a risk to you as the mortgage holder.

Recently got a 30 year mortgage on a 25 year old home. Getting homeowner's insurance was no problem.