You had to know this was to begin.....

[Rags123]

"Two uniformed NYPD officers were shot dead — execution style — as they sat in their marked police car on a Bed-Stuy, Brooklyn, street corner.
According to preliminary reports, both officers were working overtime as part of an anti-terrorism drill when they were shot point-blank by a single gunman who approached their car at the corner of Myrtle and Tompkins avenues.
“It’s an execution,” one law enforcement source told The Post of the 3 p.m. shooting."

2 NYPD cops shot dead ‘execution style’ as ‘revenge’ for Garner | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/)

[Rags123]

"“I’m Putting Wings on Pigs Today,” a person believed to be the gunman wrote on Instagram in a message posted just three hours before the officers were shot through their front passenger window.

The post included an image of silver automatic handgun with a wooden handle. Another post showed camouflage pants and blue sneakers which matched the clothing the dead gunman was wearing as his body was carried from the scene on a stretcher.
“They Take 1 Of Ours … Let’s Take 2 of Theirs,” the post continued, signing off with, “This May Be My Final Post.”"

2 NYPD cops shot dead ‘execution style’ as ‘revenge’ for Garner | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/)

With the media reports, the talk consistently one way and our leaders proclamations, this is what we get and I think probably will continue to get.

[TexaninVA]

"“I’m Putting Wings on Pigs Today,” a person believed to be the gunman wrote on Instagram in a message posted just three hours before the officers were shot through their front passenger window.

The post included an image of silver automatic handgun with a wooden handle. Another post showed camouflage pants and blue sneakers which matched the clothing the dead gunman was wearing as his body was carried from the scene on a stretcher.
“They Take 1 Of Ours … Let’s Take 2 of Theirs,” the post continued, signing off with, “This May Be My Final Post.”"

2 NYPD cops shot dead ‘execution style’ as ‘revenge’ for Garner | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2014/12/20/2-nypd-cops-shot-execution-style-in-brooklyn/)

With the media reports, the talk consistently one way and our leaders proclamations, this is what we get and I think probably will continue to get.

Unfortunately, with the recent spate of Sharpton-led demagoguery and racial incitement, aided and abetted by the NYC Mayor, this was indeed inevitable. Leadership matters, or in the case, the lack thereof has consequences.

Maybe the police should just pull out of the high crime areas since they don't seem to be welcomed anyway?

[dbussone]

Unfortunately, with the recent spate of Sharpton-led demagoguery and racial incitement, aided and abetted by the NYC Mayor, this was indeed inevitable. Leadership matters, or in the case, the lack thereof has consequences.



Maybe the police should just pull out of the high crime areas since they don't seem to be welcomed anyway?


What a shame. God bless those officers and their families.

[Rags123]

Unfortunately, with the recent spate of Sharpton-led demagoguery and racial incitement, aided and abetted by the NYC Mayor, this was indeed inevitable. Leadership matters, or in the case, the lack thereof has consequences.

Maybe the police should just pull out of the high crime areas since they don't seem to be welcomed anyway?

Folks on this board along with our officials simply made light of the fact that their (not suggesting that comments made on this particular board) comments and actions would have consequences. The mood was set....there is no need to listen to police commands, and worry not, no matter you may become a hero of sorts Police are the enemy.

I am afraid this is from from over.

As for Sharpton, he is a criminal.....he needs to be locked up, at least make him pay taxes.

[PaPaLarry]

I'm just appalled. Goes to show you how some of these people think. God bless our law enforcement officers. They didn't even have a "Grand Jury" And as to Sharpton, Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?????????????

[Rags123]

you know, as I think back on the posts on TOTV during Garner, Ferguson, etc. what really strikes me is nobody seemed to be on the police side. Most did not even acknowledge that the police were correct in stopping them and correct in telling them to obey commands to get the situation assessed and controlled.

I think back about two months when police were attacked on the street by a man with an axe, whose facebook page was loaded with racist remarks aimed at the white police.

Disturbing, this will not get much attention...certainly not like the others....the axe thing was a one or two day story.

I suppose if you have nothing to gain by supporting the police and you do have something to gain by supporting.......I am very callous at this point. This is like a sick movie.

I am rambling I know, but this is getting very old...it is the same old story for years......

[Abby10]

First bit of news that I heard coming home from work today - so sad. Can't imagine just sitting in your car on the job and being ambushed like that. I too am one who supports the effort of our policemen and women. In this crazy world that we live in these days, they are becoming more and more like our military - brave men and women who put their lives on the line daily. Prayers to the families affected by this tragedy.

[graciegirl]

Leaving the last sentence out as original would have kept the message more thoughtful in light of the slain officers.


I am angry.

He is our president, not just for part of us, for all of us.

[onslowe]

The media and its satanic drumbeat has yielded foreseeable results. I'm not talking about reported news, but rather that sickening species of 'talking heads' and 'concerned reporters' non stop barrage of their political and social agenda of lies.

The suspect seems to have posted material on the social media about his taking 'revenge' for Garner and Brown, I think.

Sharpton and his beholden leftist NY mayor and the media make me sick.

I know two police officers' families who will never again have a truly joyous Christmas.

[graciegirl]

you know, as I think back on the posts on TOTV during Garner, Ferguson, etc. what really strikes me is nobody seemed to be on the police side. Most did not even acknowledge that the police were correct in stopping them and correct in telling them to obey commands to get the situation assessed and controlled.

I think back about two months when police were attacked on the street by a man with an axe, whose facebook page was loaded with racist remarks aimed at the white police.

Disturbing, this will not get much attention...certainly not like the others....the axe thing was a one or two day story.

I suppose if you have nothing to gain by supporting the police and you do have something to gain by supporting.......I am very callous at this point. This is like a sick movie.

I am rambling I know, but this is getting very old...it is the same old story for years......

We seemed to be doing better some time ago.
I have said this before, on our way home in the car to Ohio at Thanksgiving, I felt coldness from the folks I smiled at who were black. That has not happened to me before. This is affecting all of us in a bad way.

[Chi-Town]

I am angry.

He is our president, not just for part of us, for all of us.
We are all angry; i was just saying that your original post ended with wearing blue in support. The add-on detracted from your thoughtful and moving post. Just my opinion.

[onslowe]

Leaving the last sentence out as original would have kept the message more thoughtful in light of the slain officers.

I found the last sentence to be highly thoughtful. Thoughts born out of genuine sadness and justifiable anger. An atmosphere has been created in the past several months……look to the creators, enablers and inciters……not to those who bemoan this atmosphere.

[dbussone]

We are all angry; i was just saying that your original post ended with wearing blue in support. The add-on detracted from your thoughtful and moving post. Just my opinion.


I have to respectfully disagree.

[graciegirl]

We are all angry; i was just saying that your original post ended with wearing blue in support. The add-on detracted from your thoughtful and moving post. Just my opinion.

Here is the reality I predict. Good people will not want to become Officers of the Law and we will only have the smarmy ones. They will not want to go to neighborhoods where violence is high.

Last night, in Orlando in the middle of the night, in a neighborhood on the east side, seven homes were riddled with bullets.

It will come here. Sooner or later. We are older and weaker and don't run as fast. The non law abiders will come here and hurt us and rob us. If our authority figures nationally do not stand up for law enforcement, bad things will happen and continue to happen.

[shcisamax]

It is very bad. And all it will serve to do is build more hyper vigilance of police. Dear Al Sharpton could only harp on how this should not have been done in the name of Garner and Brown..really? Wow. It should not have been done PERIOD.

I am so very sorry for the spouses and families. Very very sad.

[Rags123]

We seemed to be doing better some time ago.
I have said this before, on our way home in the car to Ohio at Thanksgiving, I felt coldness from the folks I smiled at who were black. That has not happened to me before. This is affecting all of us in a bad way.

Somebody....somewhere.....do not care what official but someone needs to start accenting the positive instead of ALWAYS the negative. Of course there are negatives, but all we have heard is negatives.....all we hear is those instances that show someones injustice or someones insensitivity.

WHY do we not here the stories of heros.....why do we not hear anything positive. I know I am rough on Sharpton and our leaders, but they do not seem to be able to talk in positive terms and I know I swing it to agendas and what is to be gained, but it just seems that way to me.....all the conversations and the speeches begin to make a point with someone...why do we not start to talk about the positives...there are a h...l of a lot more of positives than negatives and perhaps we take the power away from some.

This is not going to stop...I am telling you. It was predicted on this forum....a number of writers predicted it, but it falls on deaf ears.

Why does not the President talk of our police heros...these men killed today were there working overtime as part of an anti-terrorism drill

[Rags123]

Leaving the last sentence out as original would have kept the message more thoughtful in light of the slain officers.

I disagree with respect. I think I understand why you say this, and I want to make it clear....the President is not the root, but someone asked the other day about a sit down he and the First Lady did where they 100% discussed and did details on there BAD experiences being black. They did not mention about Valarie Jarret doing the same thing at a function.

WHY are they not doing articles and sit downs and discussing good things that are happening. That is my problem. And I will repeat what I think that poster who started that thread...what is the meaning of that article.

Why are we not talking about the majority who do not do insensitive and racist things and stressing the good things...that is what is really bothering me.

[Rags123]

We seemed to be doing better some time ago.
I have said this before, on our way home in the car to Ohio at Thanksgiving, I felt coldness from the folks I smiled at who were black. That has not happened to me before. This is affecting all of us in a bad way.

Not coldness, but a gentleman of color and I were talking just yesterday about the recent events, and he said he was a bit embarrassed by in his words "what appears to be an attempt to make the white population feel guilty". He alluded to remarks by leaders that are not MEANT to condemn all whites or all police, but inherently that is how they are being received.

The condemnation of our police makes the condemnation of folks like ISIS look like gestures of minor rebuke.

If he felt that way, and you feel it, and I surely do, just imagine how this very high level rhetoric is received by many

[kcrazorbackfan]

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[Abby10]

For those of you that really are angry about this, please say a prayer for anyone in uniform that helps keep us safe.


Count me in.............:pray:

[TexaninVA]

Amen. As a LEO I know it is hard for you to hold back. If our leaders do not have the back of those who protect us, why should we not fear for our safety? If I were a LEO I would seriously wonder why I should even report to work tomorrow.

That's exactly how I feel about this. Plus, I'm fed up with the professional protestors and race baiters ruining the greatest country on earth. If they are that unhappy, I will will happily contribute to a fund to give them a one way ticket to anywhere else in the world as long as they turn in their American passport once they get to their promised land.

[onslowe]

One officer was Chinese-American in heritage and the other was Latino. The gunman had murdered his girlfriend in Baltimore and said on social media he was going to NY to kill police. Baltimore PD sent the warning asap but it arrived in NYPD as the two officers were being shot in cold blood.

I hope at their funerals enough police and law enforcement turn out to send a serious message to the media and those in public limelight.

It's ironic that Holder's successor, Loretta Lynch, was (is) US Atty General (deputy) for the Brooklyn district where officers Liu and Ramos gave their last full measure.

[Rags123]

That's exactly how I feel about this. Plus, I'm fed up with the professional protestors and race baiters ruining the greatest country on earth. If they are that unhappy, I will will happily contribute to a fund to give them a one way ticket to anywhere else in the world as long as they turn in their American passport once they get to their promised land.

As I read your post, I watch police officers lining up to be "with their brothers and families" and I think of your words.

I said earlier when folks were discussing Ferguson, etc that we need leaders like Dr King. I also have this "feeling" that so many look forward to the opportunity to march and yell and demonstrate. I even "feel" the excitement in some of the posters on here when there is a chance to verbally assault authority of any kind. They are, as you say, ruining our country, and my problem is that they want to make everyone feel guilty as if they are on the high road.

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[TexaninVA]

I'm fed up with the professional protestors and race baiters ruining the greatest country on earth. If they are that unhappy, I will gladly contribute to a fund to give them a one way ticket to anywhere else in the world as long as they turn in their American passport once they get to their promised land.

[TexaninVA]

I wonder if it's possible for the NYPD Police Union to organize a temporary withdrawal of police presence in selected high crime districts as a protest ? The public either supports the police or loses the police.

[VT2TV]

This is a tragedy that was bound to happen, I am afraid, and I foresee it happening again. People have been on the news, talk shows, sporting events and any other media that will allow them to show support for all the rioters and destructive behavior. The people who are our leaders have not once supported the officers in the 2 recent events, but have openly critized them and supported those who critize them. My husband told me something that Oprah Winprey said the other day (really surprised me). But she said that in all the protests during the 60's with the Rev Dr MLK, Jr, the people protesting were all dressed in suits, and were peaceful and non destructive. They weren't like the crowds now. And that is true. Our police and military just are not getting the support and respect they deserve, not only from a large part of the public, but from most of out politicians. Our top politician actually showed approval for a sports person who wore a tee shirt on TV that said "I can't breathe", but when a police officer had a tee shirt that said "obey the law, breathe easy", they were criticized, and told not to wear it. Bless our aw enforcement officers. Fair????

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

This not just beginning. It has been going on for years. The national press just doesn't cover it like they do every time some low life does something to get himself shot by the police. But thanks to the press, the president and the Al Sharpton;s of the world, it's going to get a a lot worse.

[applesoffh]

I am heartsick, as are most if not all New Yorkers. I am especially concerned because my young niece has chosen the NYPD as her profession and will be sworn in December 29th. God bless all the men and women who proudly wear the blue.

[Pointer]

This was a sick man who took the lives of his girlfriend, two police officers and then his own life. We all look to blame but in the end he was a mentally sick individual.

I don't think linking him to any group of people is called for. And I don't think the people, that includes children, who are just trying to survive in Bed Sty or any other bad neighborhood deserve to be abandoned because of the actions of this man.

We can all continue to send healing prayers to the families of everyone involved.