An "accidental" shooting?

[Sandtrap328]

A Georgia (it figures) police chief said his wife was accidentally shot with his service pistol. He said the Glock was in the bed with them and went off twice when he tried moving it. One bullet hit the wife. She is in critical condition.

Can any gun owners explain how this may have been an accident? Oh yeah, the police chief was also a certified instructor.

Not to cloud the already murky waters but she was his fourth marriage and twice to her.

[Chi-Town]

Nothing says love like a Glock in bed. Must have been an accident. Twice.

[Topspinmo]

Glocks I think are imported and has trigger safety. Several hundred people have been accidentally shot by these semi automatics. They are the weapon of choice if you can afford them due to the 17 plus rounds they pack. Basically if you or something puts too much pressure on the trigger it will go off.

Two year old kid recently shot her mother in Walmart. The baby got the pistol out of her purse and it went off and killed her mother. This was probably cheap light weight Saturday night special semi automatic that don't have safety. But usually has hard trigger pull. If your leaning towards gun ban these cheap handguns should of been outlawed 40 years ago. IMO they have kill more than any other weapon on the market. Being most are manufactured in the NE or Cala. Or imported through them states Liberal agenda can't have it both ways. They want the taxes and jobs but cry foul when gun Related deaths occur.

Bottom line is careless will kill sometimes no matter what the source that caused the death. In the case you brought up I sure they are investigating it.

[blue72]

Nothing says love like a Glock in bed. Must have been an accident. Twice.

So eloquently stated

[Walter123]

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[billethkid]

it was no accident! you can roll around all night on it and it is not going to discharge.

I will allow that if he was sleeping with the pistol in his hand and trigger finger on the trigger.....MAYBE....a big maybe! As second shot.....there is no way!!!

He or someone else shot her....the most likely, believeable scenario!

[dewilson58]

Two shots?...............It was a murder - suicide attempt by a really bad shot.

[dbussone]

In golf, if it takes two shots for you to get out of the same bunker, it is called a "Hitler."

A shot from one bunker into another is called a "Sadam Hussein."

[The20Percent]

If it was TWO shots, the probability is to the moon high that it was an accidential shooting. I thought I heard on the news though that the media originally stated it was two shots and it was later corrected to only ONE shot.

A Glock has only an internal safety trigger, meaning you have to place your finger directly on the center of the trigger and pull back, to fire off a round. If you try to pull the trigger from either "side" of the trigger, it will not fire. Glocks are also known for a fairly light trigger pull of 5.5 pounds. Seeing he was a police chief, he might have modified his trigger pull down even less, to say 3.5 pounds, which would improve shooting accuracy with less resistance. A lot of law enforcement and gun experts will add this modification. So yes, it is possible the gun could have discharged from grabbing it carelessly or even if a bed linen got wraped inside the trigger guard and was pulled the wrong way. Stranger things have happened and there have been many cases where law enforcement and the public have "accidentally" fired their Glock handgun. The overwhelming majority of the time it is due to human carelessness with the gun. Glocks are one of the most reliable (if respected) and durable handguns on the market, but one needs to take extra care and caution when owning a Glock because of the lack of a traditional external safety. I actually prefer my Springfield XD (similar material, construction, and capacity as a Glock) because in addition to a trigger safety, it has a squeeze handle safety. When two safeties are combined in conjunction with the firing of a shot, an accidential shooting would be much harder to achieve. Best rule of thumb...always keep your finger off the trigger until you plan on shooting the weapon! This would eliminate a lot of so called "accidents".

[TNLAKEPANDA]

The only way a Glock can dischare is if you actually PULL THE TRIGR! He shot her twice!

[Rags123]

The only way a Glock can dischare is if you actually PULL THE TRIGR! He shot her twice!

"He said in the call he had shot her twice � in the front and the back. A GBI spokeswoman said it was initially believe that Margaret McCollom, a nurse, was shot twice but she was actually shot only once."

Peachtree City chief (http://www.ajc.com/news/news/investigation-of-peachtree-city-police-chief-could/njfML/)

[dplars]

Good to hear from people who know what they are talking about. Dido's to above.

[The20Percent]

The only way a Glock can dischare is if you actually PULL THE TRIGR! He shot her twice!

McCollom told the 911 operator he had shot his wife twice, but the GBI said investigators determined she'd only been shot once.

[sharon]

Why GEORGIA ? Is there something that I'm missing about GEORGIA. It's the same in every state it happen everywhere.

[dbussone]

Why GEORGIA ? Is there something that I'm missing about GEORGIA. It's the same in every state it happen everywhere.

Actually, in GA and many other southern states, gun safety is a priority and taught in many schools. I'm from MA but moved south after the blizzard of '78. I took a gun safety course in the early '70's and was one of a very few in the state with a handgun permit.

My son, as a sophomore in a southern prep school, took gun safety as a required course. Perhaps if those who make fun of the South did the same, there would be fewer accidents. I'd rather go hunting with a trained southerner than an untrained northerner.

[Carl in Tampa]

The only way a Glock can dischare is if you actually PULL THE TRIGR!

I was a factory trained and certified Glock armorer. If you want it to fire, the trigger must be pulled.

The person who discussed the possible modification of the weight of the trigger pull apparently does not realize that changing the weight at which the trigger "breaks" to fire the pistol does not change the distance that the trigger must be pulled before the pistol will fire.

The relatively long trigger pull is required to move an internal cross-track safety on the firing pin and to move the firing pin far enough back to compress the firing pin spring so it will move forward with adequate force to fire the cartridge.

The only way to fire a Glock is to pull the trigger - a long way.

Now, to the larger point: WHAT KIND OF IDIOT TAKES A GUN TO BED WITH HIM?

:0000000000luvmyhors

[janmcn]

Does anybody know if this woman is dead or alive and if the police chief has been charged with anything?

[Sandtrap328]

I was a factory trained and certified Glock armorer. If you want it to fire, the trigger must be pulled.

Now, to the larger point: WHAT KIND OF IDIOT TAKES A GUN TO BED WITH HIM?

:0000000000luvmyhors

Hmmm? Maybe a Chief of Police who was a certified instructor?

What kind of idiot takes a pistol to a movie theater and kills a man who tosses popcorn? Hmmmm? Maybe a Chief of Police who was a certified instructor?

[Jimturner]

The only way a Glock can dischare is if you actually PULL THE TRIGR! He shot her twice!

Bingo.

[Sandtrap328]

Does anybody know if this woman is dead or alive and if the police chief has been charged with anything?

Last I heard, she was in critical condition and her shooter is on paid administrative.

[Jimturner]

I was a factory trained and certified Glock armorer. If you want it to fire, the trigger must be pulled.

The person who discussed the possible modification of the weight of the trigger pull apparently does not realize that changing the weight at which the trigger "breaks" to fire the pistol does not change the distance that the trigger must be pulled before the pistol will fire.

The relatively long trigger pull is required to move an internal cross-track safety on the firing pin and to move the firing pin far enough back to compress the firing pin spring so it will move forward with adequate force to fire the cartridge.

The only way to fire a Glock is to pull the trigger - a long way.

Now, to the larger point: WHAT KIND OF IDIOT TAKES A GUN TO BED WITH HIM?

:0000000000luvmyhors

I love it when someone uses his head for something other than a hat rack

[Rags123]

"Margaret McCollom's condition was upgraded Saturday from critical to serious. It was upgraded again on Sunday to fair condition."


"Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said criminal charges are possible but they would wait for the GBI to complete their investigation.
"We have no leanings one way or the other at this point because we just don't know. There are a lot of things we don't know yet about what took place that we need to know before we can make any decisions," Ballard told Channel 2's Aaron Diamant."

Peachtree City police chief (http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/911-calls-released-shooting-peachtree-city-police-/njfQP/)

[Jimturner]

"Margaret McCollom's condition was upgraded Saturday from critical to serious. It was upgraded again on Sunday to fair condition."


"Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said criminal charges are possible but they would wait for the GBI to complete their investigation.
"We have no leanings one way or the other at this point because we just don't know. There are a lot of things we don't know yet about what took place that we need to know before we can make any decisions," Ballard told Channel 2's Aaron Diamant."

Peachtree City police chief (http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/911-calls-released-shooting-peachtree-city-police-/njfQP/)

She should clarify what happened

[Carl in Tampa]

What is it with Police Chiefs? The Chief of Police of Connersville, Indiana, just now accidently shot himself for the second time.

Last time it was in the hand; this time it's in the leg. He was in a gun shop and the incident is on video. He had pulled out his Glock service pistol and was returning it to its holster when the knob on a drawstring on the bottom of his jacket became entangled inside the trigger guard. He continued to push the gun into the holster against the heightened resistance and.....bang. Got him in the leg.

There have been other reports of people getting the knob on their jacket drawstring entangled with their pistol and having accidental discharges. Clothing problem; not pistol problem.

Police Chief Accidentally Shoots Himself For The Second Time (http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/01/police-chief-accidentally-discharges-for-the-second-time/)

[MikeV]

I will not own a Glock because of the trigger safety. I prefer 1911s because of the dual safety. You not only have to put the manual safety on fire but you also have to squeeze the back of the hand grip to release that safety. My Kimber has never accidentally fired and most likely never will.

[blueash]

Off-duty officer accidentally shoots self in OTR (http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2015/01/04/off-duty-cop-shoots-self-in-otr/21256943/)

add another accidental police discharge to the tally

[The20Percent]

[QUOTE=Carl in Tampa;990240]I was a factory trained and certified Glock armorer. If you want it to fire, the trigger must be pulled.

The person who discussed the possible modification of the weight of the trigger pull apparently does not realize that changing the weight at which the trigger "breaks" to fire the pistol does not change the distance that the trigger must be pulled before the pistol will fire.


Please don't misquote me. If you go back and read my statement "carefully" you will see that I never mentioned the "distance" of the trigger, only the "resistance" of the trigger.

While a factory trained and certified Glock armorer sounds impressive, all Glock stocking firearm dealers across the US (which I was for 20+ years) are given this same course free of charge (at their choice of training locations) every single year just for selling their guns. It is an informative hands on course though which teaches all aspects of the Glock firearm.

Why are there so many accidential police discharges with their duty weapons? My take is because too many law enforcement officers become to cocky/comfortable with their weapon and think that because of their intensive training and their job, they are incapable of making such a careless mistake. In my county back in TN we had a Sheriff who was elected on his credentials of having been a former FBI agent in the state of New York. After he was elected it later came to be known that when he worked for the FBI in NY, he shot himself in the foot with his duty Glock and afterward became the laughing stock of that NY agency! On a more tragic note, one of our long time county deputies was at home on his porch with his son cleaning firearms, when he passed his son his "unloaded" Glock service weapon to clean. This gun went off in his teenage son's chest killing him instantly!

[Walter123]

I will not own a Glock because of the trigger safety. I prefer 1911s because of the dual safety. You not only have to put the manual safety on fire but you also have to squeeze the back of the hand grip to release that safety. My Kimber has never accidentally fired and most likely never will.

I like the 1911 too. My XD40 has a trigger safety and a grip safety. Bottom line is that no amount of safeties will prevent an "accidental" discharge if the firearm is being handled by an idiot.

[tomwed]

My laptop has finger print recognition. It's a fairly inexpensive HP. I wonder if that technology could be used on a gun for the home owner not the police. Only the person owning the gun could fire the gun.
Of course this does not address the illegal use of guns.

[NYGUY]

The only way a Glock can dischare is if you actually PULL THE TRIGR! He shot her twice!

In the back!!

[dewilson58]

Has the conversation with the wife in the hospital been released yet??

[Sandtrap328]

My laptop has finger print recognition. It's a fairly inexpensive HP. I wonder if that technology could be used on a gun for the home owner not the police. Only the person owning the gun could fire the gun.
Of course this does not address the illegal use of guns.

I do not know about fingerprint recognition on pistols but there are pistols having a smart chip which require the shooter to have a bracelet or ring in order to fire the pistol.

The NRA is against this even for home owned pistols. In Rockvile, MD, last year a gunstore owner was threatened with having his store burned down if he sold any of these pistols.

[tomwed]

I do not know about fingerprint recognition on pistols but there are pistols having a smart chip which require the shooter to have a bracelet or ring in order to fire the pistol.

The NRA is against this even for home owned pistols. In Rockvile, MD, last year a gunstore owner was threatened with having his store burned down if he sold any of these pistols.

I read a little using keywords from your post. That's interesting about new gun technology. I should have Googled before I posted. Thank-you for pointing me in the right direction.

[Miles42]

I have a Glock it is not going to fire with out trigger pressure. Twice is hard to sell to any jury.