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Guest
05-20-2008, 11:31 PM
Subject: This is the guy that wants to live in the White House


50 Lies and Counting: Posted on Political forum.com - Elections and Campaigns ...Share with friends

1.) Selma Got Me Born - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades.

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldnt allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

6.) My Name is African Swahili - LIAR, your name is Arabic and Baraka (from which Barack came) means blessed in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years,until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldnt even speak the language.. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

13.)An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesnt, and never did, exist.

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesnt, and never did, exist.

15.) I Wont Run On A National Ticket In 08 - LIAR, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

17.) Oops, I Misvoted - LIAR, only when caught by church groups and democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, you didnt write it,introduce it, change it, or create it.

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear Donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - LIAR, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One Contacted Canada About NAFTA - LIAR, the Candian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel.

30.) I Am Not Acting As President Yet - LIAR, after the NAFTA Memo, a dead terrorist in the FARC, in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how you and he were working together on getting FARC recognized officially.

31.) I Didnt Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed national ads to run 8-12 times per day for two weeks - and you still lost.

32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, no you didnt.

33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, no you did not.

34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said let the delegates decide.

35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26, most of which you didnt write yourself.

37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to sue if you do not stop saying this. Obama has stopped saying this.

38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

39.) I Dont Take PAC Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.

40.) I dont Have Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - LIAR, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom, who started MySpace issued a warning about this advertising to MySpace clients.

43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with other peoples words.

44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U.S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed A BILL in the U.S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.

45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you werent in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time, unlike Kucinich, who seems to be out gutting you Obama. You also seem to be stepping back from your departure date - AGAIN.

46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your plan leaves us all to pay the 15,000,000 who dont have to buy it.

47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both companies you site as having sent you letters about this conflict have no record of any such letter ever being created or sent.

48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you wont wear a flag pin and you dont put your hand over your heart during the Anthem.

49.) My Wife Didnt Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wifes words follow lock-step in the vain of Wright and Farrahkan, in relation to their contempt and hatred of America.

50.) Wal-Mart Is A Company I Wouldnt Support - LIAR, your wife has received nearly a quarter of a million dollars through Treehouse, which is connected to Wal-Mart.

Guest
05-20-2008, 11:43 PM
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm hiding under the dining room table. :yikes: Chelsea and Lil Dancer are gonna love this thread!

Guest
05-21-2008, 12:32 AM
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm hiding under the dining room table. :yikes: Chelsea and Lil Dancer are gonna love this thread!

Move over BF this I gotta see :yikes:
Color me speechless
Handie :joke:

Guest
05-21-2008, 02:34 AM
Why wasn't this posted in Political??? :dontknow:

Guest
05-21-2008, 02:44 AM
I'm sure it will be moved once the administrators notice it. For now, I'm going to be good and sit on my hands.

Guest
05-21-2008, 02:56 AM
Redwitch,
I am counting on you !!! :bigthumbsup:

Guest
05-21-2008, 04:25 AM
These lies are as lame as the person that didn't know enough to post this in political, duh.

Guest
05-21-2008, 05:15 AM
Sad......................


Politics....It looks like the closer we get to the elections the more :edit:

hits the fan. Why can't we all as intelligent adults make up our own minds?

I detest the bashing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Shirleevee.........Staten Island Republican....voting for whoever the Democrats get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guest
05-21-2008, 11:53 AM
OH my GOD it was posted in the wrong area The world is going to come to an end
THE message is still there I'm sorry we all can't be ROCKET SCIENTIST LIKE YOU
CHELsea24

Guest
05-21-2008, 03:55 PM
Sad.
I detest the bashing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Happy!!* I love laying out all the cards on the table. :yikes: 040

Information, opinions, and communication are all very good things.

Guest
05-21-2008, 04:13 PM
I like seeing this information too. Just hope people are politically savvy enough to know what to do with this kind of garbage no matter if it is aimed at Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John McCain, or Ralph Nader.

Guest
05-21-2008, 04:14 PM
Don't count on me. I'm not an administrator. You can always pm Talk_Host or Tony or DKLassen. Sometimes they miss stuff.

Guest
05-21-2008, 04:50 PM
Just hope people are politically savvy enough to know what to do with this kind of garbage no matter if it is aimed at Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John McCain, or Ralph Nader.

:agree: :agree: :agree:

Guest
05-21-2008, 04:57 PM
There once was a man from Nantucket....


Whoops this isn't the sex jokes forum? My bad!

My next book will be "The 50 biggest lies told on TOTV" - Should be well received :joke:

Guest
05-21-2008, 05:34 PM
Information, opinions, and communication are all very good things.

:agree: I love the fact that everyone feels free to express their varied opinions on TOTV. I've learned a lot from political threads and find them much more interesting than "What is a bond?". I find the posts interesting, educational, and sometimes downright hilarious. :bigthumbsup:

Guest
05-21-2008, 07:10 PM
I like seeing this information too. Just hope people are politically savvy enough to know what to do with this kind of garbage no matter if it is aimed at Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John McCain, or Ralph Nader.

It would be interesting to know if anyone researched any of these 50 claims to see if any are truly correct. I know a lot of bashing goes on on the internet but often wonder how true it is. Does anyone have any real facts contrary to what was posted in the wrong category (like that's really important!). More importantly is what are the real facts and if these are, we're in serious trouble. Just the facts, ma'am!

Russ, that really was funny. Thanks, Kath

Guest
05-21-2008, 07:39 PM
Hey Kathie, go to this site and you will find the 50 items BSLINY listed. According to the site they are still investigating all the assertions and consider them still open. Hope this helps........Johnny

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/50lies.asp

Guest
05-21-2008, 08:54 PM
Thanks, Johnny, will do after I pack a little more. Thanks for the site. Kath

Guest
05-21-2008, 09:33 PM
Ken Blackwell -
Columnist for the New York Sun



It's an amazing time to be alive
in America. We're in a year of firsts in
this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate; the first
viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the first
front-running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America will be a
first.



We won't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we judge every
candidate by where they stand. We won't arrive where we should be until we no
longer talk about skin color or gender. Now that Barack Obama steps to the
front of the Democratic field, we need to stop talking about his race, and
start talking about his policies and his politics.



The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until August,
unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the frontrunner, and its
time America takes a closer and deeper look at
him. Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's
the next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.



Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the entire
U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs.
Clinton. � �Never in my life have I seen a
presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed from his record.
Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern
promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal
domestic agenda, and he lost.

Yet Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he's not behind in the polls.
Why? Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant..
Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the United
States of America. But let's look at the more
defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial 'beauty.'



Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as
commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invading
Pakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions
with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another
Holocaust; and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but
emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists -
something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear
weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security
condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who
would put our national security at risk.



Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the
strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as
well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even
people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago.
Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on 'the rich.' How to fix Social
Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise taxes. Prescription drugs?
Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His
solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on
steroids, funded by your paycheck.



Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacit y to open a stadium
rally by saying, 'All praise and glory to God!' but says that Christian
leaders speaking for life and marriage have 'hijacked' - hijacked -
Christianity. He is pro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint
Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional.
He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates
of racial cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and
he is moving in that direction. In Illinois, he
refused to vote against a statewide ban - ban - on all handguns in the state.
These are radical left, Hollywood, and San
Francis co values, not Middle America values.



The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a
far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could wi n if people don't start looking
behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of 'bringing America together'
means saying that those who disagree with his agenda for America are
hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal
agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs. �




But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent of a speaker he is and - yes
- they're talking about his race. Those should never be the factors on which
we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama's radical agenda sets him far
outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.



It's time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let's
first make sure we elect the person who is qualified to be our president in a
nuclear age during a global civilizational war.



Subject: Kind of scary, wouldn't you think Remember--God
is good, and is in time, on time � every �time


According to The Book of Revelations the anti-christ is:



The anti-christ will be a man, in his 40s, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive
the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like
appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise
false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, will destroy everything.
Is it OBAMA??

Guest
05-21-2008, 11:18 PM
Snopes discredits the "Ken Blackwell" post: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/blackwell.asp

Guest
05-22-2008, 12:48 AM
I am enjoying the education from all points. Thanks, Lil! Snopes. Great investigative site.