Coconut oil and Belly Fat etc.

[lightworker888]

I came across this article and thought it was worth sharing for those who are wondering about the health benefits of coconut oil and are worried about its effects on heart disease and belly fat. I happen to use it exclusively for all my cooking and use first pressed, cold pressed olive oil for all on-cooking purposes. I also have sesame oil on hand for Asian dishes.

LW888




Dr. Osborne here,
This question has been coming up on an almost daily basis. "Is coconut oil
healthy? I thought the saturated fat in it caused heart disease and
obesity."

On that note,
I've run across some VERY interesting studies recently on the relationship
between coconut oil
<https://peterosborne.infusionsoft.com/app/linkClick/69479/6f95afe9249b0efc/
57943119/c2ee3d9576cb954f> (or any type of coconut fat, including coconut
milk and cream) and how it can affect your body fat...

A 2009 study published in the Journal Lipids consisted of testing the
effects of either 2 tablespoons of coconut oil or 2 tablespoons of soybean
on a group of 40 women over the span of 28 days.

Results showed that the group that ate the coconut oil had a decrease in
abdominal fat, while the soybean oil group actually showed a slight increase
in belly fat. Additionally, the group that ate the coconut oil showed
increased HDL Œgood¹ cholesterol levels, while the soybean oil group had
decreased HDL cholesterol and increased LDL Œ bad¹ cholesterol.

The Journal of Nutrition published a study where researchers investigated
all studies relative to medium chain fatty acids (MCFAs) that are abundant
in coconut fat
<https://peterosborne.infusionsoft.com/app/linkClick/69477/b1d27cca64eff98b/
57943119/c2ee3d9576cb954f> and weight management. The studies showed that
diets rich in fats such as those found in coconut oil prompted a boost in
metabolism, increase in energy, decrease in food consumption, reduced body
weight and lower body fat mass.

The study authors highly recommend using oils that contain MCFAs, such as
coconut oil
<https://peterosborne.infusionsoft.com/app/linkClick/69481/0df825a81ff223eb/
57943119/c2ee3d9576cb954f> , as a tool to drop extra abdominal fat, manage a
healthy weight, and even as a way to treat obesity.

Yet another study that assessed body weight and fat storage relative to
three different types of diets including a low-fat diet, high-fat diet with
long chain fatty acids (LCFAs) and a high fat diet with MCFAs. In order to
bring about weight gain, caloric intakes were adjusted for the diets.

At the end of the research period (which lasted 44 days), the low-fat diet
group stored an average of 0.47 grams of fat per day, the LCFA group stored
0.48 grams of fat per day, and the MCFA group only stored a mere 0.19 grams
per day (despite purposely increasing calories). Those in the MCFA group
(coconut fat) had a 60 percent reduction in body fat stored compared to the
other diets.

Another added bonus of consuming organic coconut oil
<https://peterosborne.infusionsoft.com/app/linkClick/69483/b6867b4f88742f1c/
57943119/c2ee3d9576cb954f> (and coconut cream or milk) is that it tends to
make us feel fuller for longer. Studies indicate that MCFAs help increase
feelings of fullness and lead to a reduction in calorie intake when compared
to the same amount of calories from other fats.

When MCFAs are metabolized, ketone bodies are created in the liver * these
have been shown to have a strong appetite reducing effect helping you to
lose fat faster.

These are just some of the effects of using coconut oil on body fat. Keep
reading and you are going to be blown away by the powerful health benefits
of coconut oil on the page below...

==>> 9 MORE reasons to use DAILY coconut oil
<https://peterosborne.infusionsoft.com/app/linkClick/69475/a7fa0d5d871ff32b/
57943119/c2ee3d9576cb954f> (including benefits to thyroid, brain, skin,
oral health, heart health, detoxing, cancer, and more)

Always looking out for you,
Dr. O - The Gluten Free Warrior

[Madelaine Amee]

I used to watch the Dr. Oz show and at one time he mentioned that he and his family use Coconut oil as a spread on their bread and also for cooking. I use it for cooking and I also use a coconut preparation on my hair. I was in one of the islands when the weather was over the top humid and my hair just turned into an uncontrollable frizz ball. One of the people in the beauty shop on the ship suggested I get off at the next island and buy coconut oil and it worked. Great stuff.

[Barefoot]

I currently make my morning smoothie with unsweetened almond milk.
I'm wondering if there are benefits to switching to unsweetened coconut milk.
Lightworker??

[slipcovers]

I currently make my morning smoothie with unsweetened almond milk.
I'm wondering if there are benefits to switching to unsweetened coconut milk.
Lightworker??

All natural coconut water has great health benefits. During World War 2, in the Pacific, the water from young green coconuts was use for plasma. They are available in Asian markets. At the top of the young green coconut are three "eyes", I place the coconut in the sink drain, to steady it, and drill out the eyes and pour the water out. Then scrape the soft flesh and eat it and drink the water.

Of course, this is a lot of work but it is well worth the effort to improve the immune system. Finding the young coconuts may be a problem.

[Barefoot]

All natural coconut water has great health benefits. During World War 2, in the Pacific, the water from young green coconuts was use for plasma. They are available in Asian markets. At the top of the young green coconut are three "eyes", I place the coconut in the sink drain, to steady it, and drill out the eyes and pour the water out. Then scrape the soft flesh and eat it and drink the water.

Of course, this is a lot of work but it is well worth the effort to improve the immune system. Finding the young coconuts may be a problem.

I have to confess, I'm not ambitious enough to go hunting for young coconuts.
I was planning to buy Harmless Harvest raw coconut water from Fresh Market.
I was wondering which has more health benefits, almond milk or coconut water.

[courtyard]

If you want to lose Belly Fat, watch this amazing video by the cardiologist who wrote the book "Wheat Belly:"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbBURnqYVzw

We also use coconut cream and coconut milk in our daily breakfast smoothie.

[Madelaine Amee]

I should have included this information with my earlier thread. Madhava Organic Coconut Sugar - I found this in Walmart sometime ago, it is sustainably grown and harvested. Very dark, different, but quite pleasant. If you must use sugar in coffee, tea, baking etc., this is a good alternative. The packet states "In addition to tasting delicious, organic coconut sugar has naturally occurring nutrients including magnesium, potassium, zinc, iron, B vitamins and amino acids.

[blueash]

all of your links are defective, unable to read the original data Can you repost with working links?

[kellyjam]

I have been buying my coconut oil and palm shortening. which has a much higher smoking point than other oils, from tropicaltraditions.com for years. It is a very informational site where you can get a ton of information on oils.

[Madelaine Amee]

I have been buying my coconut oil and palm shortening. which has a much higher smoking point than other oils, from tropicaltraditions.com for years. It is a very informational site where you can get a ton of information on oils.

This is an excellent point, coconut oil heats up very quickly and smokes in the pan which is rather frightening until you get used to using it.

[Villages PL]

It appears that these studies were of very short duration (28 and 44 days). And since it didn't say that they were double-blind studies, the result could have been a placebo effect. We simply don't know.

Was it the coconut-oil industry that sponsored the study? It's very possible because who else would care?

One study compared coconut oil with soybean oil. Why soybean oil? Maybe because coconut oil would be sure to look better by comparison.

One study said that coconut oil helps to make one feel fuller for a longer period of time. That sounds like total nonsense because it's the job of fiber to make one feel full and oils do not contain fiber.

If coconut oil is recommended for frying, why should anyone be frying if they're concerned with belly-fat or health in general?

The whole thing sounded like a coconut oil advertisement.

[Bay Kid]

1/2 spoonful in my coffee every morning. I hope it will help the memory. The belly fat would jut be a bonus!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I eat a large omelet cooked in coconut oil every morning. I stay away from carbs such as grains and potatoes as much as possible and my belly is shrinking faster than I ever imagined.

I go off my regimen once a week to drink beer, have a burger with fries while I watch the football game.

[NotGolfer]

If you want to lose Belly Fat, watch this amazing video by the cardiologist who wrote the book "Wheat Belly:"

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbBURnqYVzw

We also use coconut cream and coconut milk in our daily breakfast smoothie.

He has a new book...Wheat Belly, Total Health...much easier of a "read" and updated information!

Another beneficial one is Grain Brain by Dr. David Perlmutter.

[graciegirl]

Coconut oil and belly fat. New single by the Margaritaville guy?....whazzeesname?

[B767drvr]

He has a new book...Wheat Belly, Total Health...much easier of a "read" and updated information!

Another beneficial one is Grain Brain by Dr. David Perlmutter.

There's always this perspective:

The Smoke and Mirrors Behind Wheat Belly and Grain Brain (http://www.forksoverknives.com/the-smoke-and-mirrors-behind-wheat-belly-and-grain-brain/)

[tomwed]

Coconut oil and Belly Fat etc.
I use Olive oil. I never tried Belly Fat.

[CFrance]

It appears that these studies were of very short duration (28 and 44 days). And since it didn't say that they were double-blind studies, the result could have been a placebo effect. We simply don't know.

Was it the coconut-oil industry that sponsored the study? It's very possible because who else would care?

One study compared coconut oil with soybean oil. Why soybean oil? Maybe because coconut oil would be sure to look better by comparison.

One study said that coconut oil helps to make one feel fuller for a longer period of time. That sounds like total nonsense because it's the job of fiber to make one feel full and oils do not contain fiber.

If coconut oil is recommended for frying, why should anyone be frying if they're concerned with belly-fat or health in general?

The whole thing sounded like a coconut oil advertisement.

The studies were not funded by the coconut-oil industry.

[Villages PL]

Most people who have lost weight know that the first place you lose it is from your upper body (face, chest etc.) There isn't any food or diet pill that will cause you to just reduce your belly. It doesn't exist and it's a scam to suggest it.

It appears that a company can have someone make claims for them and get away with it as long as the company itself doesn't state it on their product label. To do that, they would have to prove their claim to the FDA with valid studies. If they make any unauthorized claim on their product label, the FDA would intervene and shut them down plus give possible fines and jail time.

[CFrance]

The studies weren't funded by the coconut oil industry. :evil6:

[T-325]

Compound in cocoa found to reverse age-related memory loss!!

"The findings suggest that the compound increases connectivity and, subsequently, blood flow in a region of the brain critical to memory, the researchers said."

I have been taking 1 tablespoon with my yogurt each day...currently on day 68 out of the 90 day "trial" discussed in the Washington Post article. Seems to have helped my memory and mood!

The one tablespoon of Nibs contains 1000 mg of flavanols at the cost of about 20 cents a day.

Compound in cocoa found to reverse age-related memory loss - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/compound-in-chocolate-found-to-reverse-age-related-memory-loss-study-finds/2014/10/26/cee91aac-5bcb-11e4-bd61-346aee66ba29_story.html)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EGSYJA4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=AL5GSC2FMYVAD

[Villages PL]

Most people who have lost weight know that the first place you lose it is from your upper body (face, chest etc.) There isn't any food or diet pill that will cause you to just reduce your belly. It doesn't exist and it's a scam to suggest it.

It appears that a company can have someone make claims for them and get away with it as long as the company itself doesn't state it on their product label. To do that, they would have to prove their claim to the FDA with valid studies. If they make any unauthorized claim on their product label, the FDA would intervene and shut them down plus give possible fines and jail time.

BTW, the dairy industry does the same thing. The FDA will not allow them to make any claims on their products like, "Helps build strong bones." That's because they don't have any valid studies to prove it. But the industry knows how to incentivize others to do it for them. For example, a dietitian or other third party might state in a newspaper column that, "Milk is rich in calcium." Now that may be a true statement but the problem is that consumers therefore assume that it helps build strong bones. Consumers get scammed like this repeatedly.

[CFrance]

But the coconut studies weren't funded by the coconut industry.

[CFrance]

Coconut oil and belly fat. New single by the Margaritaville guy?....whazzeesname?
"The weather is here... I wish you were beautiful." (Not you, Gracie)
Jimmy Buffet

[Villages PL]

But the coconut studies weren't funded by the coconut industry.

That's all you have? I'm waiting for something substantive. Your statement above makes it seem as though I said they were funded by the coconut industry. I'm not sure who funded them but I know the statements about fullness and belly fat are a scam.

[CFrance]

That's all you have? I'm waiting for something substantive. Your statement above makes it seem as though I said they were funded by the coconut industry. I'm not sure who funded them but I know the statements about fullness and belly fat are a scam.
Nope. You are the one who made the claim that the studies could have been funded by the coconut oil industry. Go back up there and read your second paragraph in post 11. So I am waiting for you to back up your statement with something substantive.

[dotti105]

CFrance, glad you are not backing down!

Our nation developed a weight problem in the 60's with the introduction of the food pyramid. Check out childhood obesity rates from that time forward.

They were not increasing protein intake, they were increasing carb intake as the foundation of a "healthy" diet. That is when diabetes diagnoses started to spike, heart disease started to spike and our average weight soared.

The average American adult male today is some 30 lbs heavier than in the 50's. The average femaie is 22 lbs heavier.

Next we cut fat. Still disease and weight soared. Then sugar became the culprit. With more increases in disease.

The western diet, high in processed and unprocessed carbs is the most unhealthy diet of any continent on earth. The Eskimos who eat nothing but protein and fish blubber have less heart disease than we do.

For a very eye opening book, read "Food Rules", it is very good research and this man knows his stuff. If you look at our diets historically, you will see the obvious link.

[CFrance]

CFrance, glad you are not backing down!

Our nation developed a weight problem in the 60's with the introduction of the food pyramid. Check out childhood obesity rates from that time forward.

They were not increasing protein intake, they were increasing carb intake as the foundation of a "healthy" diet. That is when diabetes diagnoses started to spike, heart disease started to spike and our average weight soared.

The average American adult male today is some 30 lbs heavier than in the 50's. The average femaie is 22 lbs heavier.

Next we cut fat. Still disease and weight soared. Then sugar became the culprit. With more increases in disease.

The western diet, high in processed and unprocessed carbs is the most unhealthy diet of any continent on earth. The Eskimos who eat nothing but protein and fish blubber have less heart disease than we do.

For a very eye opening book, read "Food Rules", it is very good research and this man knows his stuff. If you look at our diets historically, you will see the obvious link.
I agree, Dotti. When we were kids, if people wanted to diet, you cut out starch. The "perfect" diet meal was steak and salad. I don't agree with all the whole grain this and that at the base of the food pyramid.

[dbussone]

I agree, Dotti. When we were kids, if people wanted to diet, you cut out starch. The "perfect" diet meal was steak and salad. I don't agree with all the whole grain this and that at the base of the food pyramid.


And it still is. VPL has you freaked out.

[CFrance]

And it still is. VPL has you freaked out.
Nah! Not hardly, db.:wave:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

BTW, the dairy industry does the same thing. The FDA will not allow them to make any claims on their products like, "Helps build strong bones." That's because they don't have any valid studies to prove it. But the industry knows how to incentivize others to do it for them. For example, a dietitian or other third party might state in a newspaper column that, "Milk is rich in calcium." Now that may be a true statement but the problem is that consumers therefore assume that it helps build strong bones. Consumers get scammed like this repeatedly.

And the wheat and corn industry do the same thing with help from the government. We are being poisoned by genetically altered wheat and corn syrup added to almost everything today. The wheat and corn lobbies are so strong in Washington that our government will never go against them.

In fact, the government subsidizes the people that grow this stuff and promote it's use through that incredibly inaccurate food pyramid that was foisted upon us a few years back. Not much has done more to harm the health of Americans than the food pyramid.

[graciegirl]

And the wheat and corn industry do the same thing with help from the government. We are being poisoned by genetically altered wheat and corn syrup added to almost everything today. The wheat and corn lobbies are so strong in Washington that our government will never go against them.

In fact, the government subsidizes the people that grow this stuff and promote it's use through that incredibly inaccurate food pyramid that was foisted upon us a few years back. Not much has done more to harm the health of Americans than the food pyramid.

I must be the only person on the planet who believes that genetically engineering plants for food doesn't harm your body or alter your genetics when you eat the genetically engineered plants.

Genetic changes occur all of the time in plants and in all living organisms.. Plants set up is not our set up. We can't grow more leaves or produce more flowers. It just doesn't work like that.

I know I am ****ing into the wind on this one, but I turned 75 last month and I feel like saying this.

Carry on.

[Barefoot]

In fact, the government subsidizes the people that grow this stuff and promote it's use through that incredibly inaccurate food pyramid that was foisted upon us a few years back. Not much has done more to harm the health of Americans than the food pyramid.

The government food pyramid :ohdear:

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I must be the only person on the planet who believes that genetically engineering plants for food doesn't harm your body or alter your genetics when you eat the genetically engineered plants.

Genetic changes occur all of the time in plants and in all living organisms.. Plants set up is not our set up. We can't grow more leaves or produce more flowers. It just doesn't work like that.

I know I am ****ing into the wind on this one, but I turned 75 last month and I feel like saying this.

Carry on.

Yes, it's true Gracie that genetic changes occur in living organisms naturally. But we're talking about man made genetic changes for the purposes of growing more food and allowing it to be preserved for longer periods of time. The genetic changes that are made by man are very different than those that occur naturally.

One also has to take into consideration that early man did not have access to grains, fruits and vegetables all the time. These are seasonal plants and before preservation methods, refrigeration and overnight transportation of food, people only ate these things for a few months (sometimes only a few weeks) per year.

It's difficult to deny that we have an obesity problem in this country and personally, I believe that there are several causes. But, one of the causes has to be the increase in wheat and especially, corn syrup consumption.

[Villages PL]

There's always this perspective:

The Smoke and Mirrors Behind Wheat Belly and Grain Brain (http://www.forksoverknives.com/the-smoke-and-mirrors-behind-wheat-belly-and-grain-brain/)

Excellent link but it will fall on deaf ears for the following two reasons:

1) Many overweight people don't like whole grains so the choice, as they see it, is to either eat highly processed grains or no grain at all.

2) Many overweight people don't like dark-green-leafy vegetables and don't like cruciferous vegetables.

Therefore, it's not a matter of choosing the best that science has to offer, it's a matter of choosing what (to them) tastes acceptable. And you can't beat the taste of oils and fatty animal protein.

[Villages PL]

Nope. You are the one who made the claim that the studies could have been funded by the coconut oil industry. Go back up there and read your second paragraph in post 11. So I am waiting for you to back up your statement with something substantive.

Yes, you sort of got it right when you said, "could have been".

My first sentence was in the form of a question as follows: "Was it the coconut-oil industry that sponsored the study?"

My second sentence is asking a question too. "It's very possible because who else would care?"

It seems you attempted to turn two questions into a positive statement.

I think it's likely some entity along the supply chain with a financial interest. That doesn't mean I'm saying positively that it is.

[Villages PL]

CFrance, glad you are not backing down!

Our nation developed a weight problem in the 60's with the introduction of the food pyramid. Check out childhood obesity rates from that time forward.

They were not increasing protein intake, they were increasing carb intake as the foundation of a "healthy" diet. That is when diabetes diagnoses started to spike, heart disease started to spike and our average weight soared.

The average American adult male today is some 30 lbs heavier than in the 50's. The average femaie is 22 lbs heavier.

Next we cut fat. Still disease and weight soared. Then sugar became the culprit. With more increases in disease.

The western diet, high in processed and unprocessed carbs is the most unhealthy diet of any continent on earth. The Eskimos who eat nothing but protein and fish blubber have less heart disease than we do.

For a very eye opening book, read "Food Rules", it is very good research and this man knows his stuff. If you look at our diets historically, you will see the obvious link.

It's only obvious if you cherry pick historical events. One could also make the case that the weight problem started in the 60s with the introduction of fast food restaurants. And the whole enterprise rested on a foundation of animal protein. Even in full service restaurants, which also grew in numbers starting in the 60s, the main attraction has always been animal protein. Around the same time, outdoor family barbeques became common and featured hamburgers, hotdogs etc.. After World War II there was a long period of prosperity during which time people ate more animal protein indoors as well.

Your statement above says they were not increasing protein intake. That may be true because most people were already eating way too much animal protein and heart disease was on the rise.

[Barefoot]

My first sentence was in the form of a question as follows: "Was it the coconut-oil industry that sponsored the study?" My second sentence is asking a question too. "It's very possible because who else would care?"


You certainly implied that the coconut-oil industry sponsored the study. And now you're backing away from that implication.
Good, that means we're finally all in agreement with CFrance's statement that the study wasn't sponsored by the coconut-oil industry!


Excellent link but it will fall on deaf ears for the following two reasons:
1) Many overweight people don't like whole grains so the choice, as they see it, is to either eat highly processed grains or no grain at all.
2) Many overweight people don't like dark-green-leafy vegetables and don't like cruciferous vegetables.

These are sweeping generalizations!
Can we please see something substantive to back up your statements.

[Villages PL]

And the wheat and corn industry do the same thing with help from the government. We are being poisoned by genetically altered wheat and corn syrup added to almost everything today. The wheat and corn lobbies are so strong in Washington that our government will never go against them.

I agree. I no longer eat corn, corn syrup or processed wheat. I eat bread made from various organic sprouted grains.

In fact, the government subsidizes the people that grow this stuff and promote it's use through that incredibly inaccurate food pyramid that was foisted upon us a few years back. Not much has done more to harm the health of Americans than the food pyramid.

Personally, I can't blame the food pyramid for anything because I never really took much notice of it until sometime around the late 80s when I read a health book that was criticizing it. Anyway, back then, I was always interested in whole grains.

[Villages PL]

You certainly implied that the coconut-oil industry sponsored the study. And now you're backing away from that implication.
Good, that means we're finally all in agreement with CFrance's statement that the study wasn't sponsored by the coconut-oil industry!

I'm not backing away from the study possibly being sponsored by some commercial interest, and that was the thrust of my original questions.

These are sweeping generalizations!
Can we please see something substantive to back up your statements.

There was nothing sweeping about it. I said "many", not "most" or "all". This was the result of my own observations.

Speaking of proof, it seems many of you who are critical of me don't mind that the OP has not presented any proof.

[Villages PL]

I must be the only person on the planet who believes that genetically engineering plants for food doesn't harm your body or alter your genetics when you eat the genetically engineered plants.

Genetic changes occur all of the time in plants and in all living organisms.. Plants set up is not our set up. We can't grow more leaves or produce more flowers. It just doesn't work like that.

I know I am ****ing into the wind on this one, but I turned 75 last month and I feel like saying this.

Carry on.

Some people, like me, might wonder why large corporations think they know better than nature, when it comes to the basic DNA structure of plant life. There's no long term independent testing or studies for biotech goods. The only testing is by the companies involved and we have to take their word for it that the products are safe for us and the environment.

GMO crops, that contain their own strong pesticides, can pollinate with other plants. As more plants kill more than the insects that were originally targeted, it could set off a dangerous chain reaction in the environment.

It's true that there are genetic changes that happen naturally in the environment. But they happen very very slowly over tens of thousands of years. When it happens slowly, animals and humans have tens of thousands of years to adapt to it. So a symbiotic balance or ecological balance can be maintained. What industry is doing is nothing like that.

[Barefoot]

I came across this article and thought it was worth sharing for those who are wondering about the health benefits of coconut oil and are worried about its effects on heart disease and belly fat.


Speaking of proof, it seems many of you who are critical of me don't mind that the OP has not presented any proof.

Why would we expect proof from the OP?
She is merely presenting information for our consideration.

[CFrance]

Some people, like me, might wonder why large corporations think they know better than nature, when it comes to the basic DNA structure of plant life. There's no long term independent testing or studies for biotech goods. The only testing is by the companies involved and we have to take their word for it that the products are safe for us and the environment.

GMO crops, that contain their own strong pesticides, can pollinate with other plants. As more plants kill more than the insects that were originally targeted, it could set off a dangerous chain reaction in the environment.

It's true that there are genetic changes that happen naturally in the environment. But they happen very very slowly over tens of thousands of years. When it happens slowly, animals and humans have tens of thousands of years to adapt to it. So a symbiotic balance or ecological balance can be maintained. What industry is doing is nothing like that.
It really hurts me, but I have to agree with you on this one. Don't faint. I won't eat that %#*& either.

[lightworker888]

and that is my purpose in all the articles that I share. I usually feel that the information is worth considering and I resonate with it at some level.

VPL I too have to agree with your comments on GMO and I find it so in humane to get 3rd world countries to give up their cultural grains and have them plant GMO crops. I just read that Monsanto has had a major decline in this last quarter so maybe consumers are getting wise and are purchasing more consciously.

Hopefully,
LW888

[Villages PL]

Why would we expect proof from the OP?
She is merely presenting information for our consideration.

Not true. Definite health claims were made but not backed up by anything other than nonfunctional links.

Notice the double standard. If I had been the OP on this thread, I would have been grilled and asked to prove my statements.

[Villages PL]

It really hurts me, but I have to agree with you on this one. Don't faint. I won't eat that %#*& either.

Good thing you said that it really hurts you, otherwise you might risk being kicked off the team.

[graciegirl]

This article about eating genetically engineered food made me rethink some of my views.

Genetically Modified Foods: Harmful or Helpful? (http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/gmfood/overview.php)

This article is fourteen years old but still very complete and fair on both sides I think. I didn't know that gmo plants released a way to kill insects on their own.


I dislike when something is summarily dismissed because someone is making big bucks, or for a religious belief that God did not intend for a plant to...etc..... which is partially what is happening in this issue AND when people in the world are starving due to plant failure...NOTHING is ever simple


Now back to coconut oil and fat tummies.