Improving Gas Mileage

[purple_worm]

I've been following this thread on the internet about using water to power your car. It basically uses electrolysis to separate the hydrogen and oxygen from water, then sends it into the cars engine along with the gasoline. I'm hearing, but hasn't been verified, of mileage improvements of between 20 to 50 %. I know the major argument is that it takes more energy from the battery for the electrolysis then the output, but also the alternator generates more than enough enough juice for this.

I'd like to know if anyone has tried this, has any thoughts on this, or can just give me some nitty gritty details of this process. I'm not a chemist, but would like to talk to someone who is open minded about this. Nothing has ever been invented by a pessimist.

Regards
Mark

DRILL HERE..................DRILL NOW...................PAY LESS.

[Rokinronda]

This looks like a great option, also: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13746_7-9876428-48.html What are your thoughts? Another great site: http://www.tuvie.com/search/french+three+wheeled+car If we can get a mission home from Mars, why can't we push energy technologies?? This next article came out in 2006! HELLO DETROIT???!!!!! Lets get er done! http://news.cnet.com/Ethanol-car-wins-fuel-efficiency-challenge/2100-11389-6075058.html?part=dht&tag=nl.e433

[bobfl]

Take a look at this: "Aptera"

http://www.aptera.com/

[Fourpar]

Way Cool! I want one!

[Jim007]

Wish it were true but let's not forget the first law of thermodynamics. Please read the following article: http://aardvark.co.nz/hho.shtml

[Rokinronda]

Aptera! Thats the one I was looking for! I think we may all want one!

[nitehawk]

I am quite sure that if we could develop a car to run on water, big business would tell us we are running out of water because of supply and demand. this would cause the price of water to skyrocket.

[redwitch]

Um, so far as I know, we ARE running out of water.

[purple_worm]

Thanksfor all the responses, I'm going to carry on this discussion, as suggested, in the AARDVARK Forum where there are several posts.

I know we're running out of water, there's only 1 1/2 times as much water as there is land on this earth.

Trouble with all those tiny cars that get 1000 miles on a gallon is that they're too small,where do you put the golf clubs AND my wife ?

[redwitch]

Yeah, but it is cost prohibitive to make salt water palatable. That eliminates a LOT of water.

Now, I dare you to let your wife know that you're having a problem choosing between golf clubs (yawn) and her. Hope you have a comfortable couch!

[samhass]

What about the Bakken Oil field discovery in North Dakota? It's huge. We should still try to get away from oil dependency, but just google Bakken oil fields. Interesting.

[samhass]

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[renielarson]

Alaska. A goldmine there if only the preservationists would let us tap.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Refuge_drilling_controversy

[samhass]

Bright, We don't have to go to the Arctic. We only have to go to N Dakota..and no one is talking about it.

[beady]

Samhass:
Thanks for the heads up on the new information released by the US Geological survey re: the Bakken oil study. If anyone is unfamiliar with Bakken just google it.

According to the survey there is a potential for a production of between 200-400 billion barrels of oil. The Bakken field is in Montana, North Dakota and stretches into Saskatchewan Province in Canada.

Why haven't we heard more about this recent discovery???

[renielarson]

I, too, had never heard of the Bakkan Oil Field. Tyvm Sam...I've been reading about it this morning. Very interesting!

[Sidney Lanier]

I too had not heard about the Bakkan oil field till now; thanks!

And if we were to rely on Detroit to make any significant improvements, we'll be growing old and gray and cobwebs before it'll happen (or more accurately 'older and grayer and more cobwebs'...).

[purple_worm]

I think we can thank our Senators and Congress-people for cowtowing to the environmentalists and not let the oil companies process that shale oil. Did you all know that because of the voting of our representatives in Washington, it's illegal to drill in the Atlantic ocean, in the Golf Of Mexico, and in Alaska.

Did you recently hear where they passed a farm bill that will pay farmers to NOT plant crops, meanwhile we have a shortage of corn and soybeans. Now that was a smart move.

I say DRILL HERE...............DRILL NOW.............and we'll PAYLESS.

[Sidney Lanier]

I'd been led to understand that drilling shale oil was too expensive for whoever to make a profit, that it would cost in today's prices about $120/barrel to get it out. Of course, with non-shale oil fast approaching this price per barrel, I'm sure that suddenly drilling shale oil (which Canada has a huge quantity of, I believe) will look more appealing. If I were a betting person, I'd bet that many oil wells that have been left fallow (so to speak) because it would cost more to extract the last remaining oil in them will suddenly be tapped. And I don't know about the Atlantic, but I thought there is oil drilling in Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico. No?

[renielarson]

Sidney

There IS drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. While visiting both Louisiana and Texas, I saw the platforms in the Gulf. Friends who live there also told me about people they knew who did that for their job.

BTW...I paid $4.17 a gallon for gas this afternoon... :yikes: :cus: crap

[purple_worm]

I have found a way to do something about these highs prices. I want to invite you to do this too.

Go the the web site www.americansolutions.com and sign the petition that will tell our representatives in Washington to do something about it NOW. Do you all know that just 2 weeks they signed a law to stop processing the shale oil in the dakatoa's, where we have an estimated TRILLION barrels of oil.

Regards
Mark

[fudpucker]

Sidney

There IS drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. While visiting both Louisiana and Texas, I saw the platforms in the Gulf. Friends who live there also told me about people they knew who did that for their job.

BTW...I paid $4.17 a gallon for gas this afternoon... :yikes: :cus: crap


I live on the Louisiana Gulf Coast and I guarantee there has been, is, and will always be oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico. I have many friends in the Oil Patch and they will be working in the gulf and marshes of Louisiana for a long time.

It is the main part of our economy with all the support companies, of which one of my sons works for. There is plenty of oil in the United States, especially Alaska and the Bakkan fields to make us independant but the "dip sticks" in Washington and the tree huggers won't allow the drilling.

In Louisiana, we say that the people in California and the east coast who don't want drilling in their waters should be paying ten times more for fuel than the gulf coast region. Nuff said!

[renielarson]

purple worm

Bless Newt's soul...if only he was running for President I wouldn't be in the dilemma I'm in!

I so believe in his "we all need to come together" message. I wish we could solve problems in a non-partisan arena focusing on the best interests of all people. It's too bad party affiliations get in the way of making smart choices for the common good.

[purple_worm]

Brightspot01

You're right on, I was hoping that he'd run too. I spoke with him at a book signing a couple years ago and told him I'd work for him if he decided to run. Unfortunately, Newt has a few skeletons in his closet. I see where our Congresswoman, or her representatives, is coming to TV on June 5. I'm hoping to go and get some questions answered, like, how did she vote recently and why, and what does she think we should do about the energy crisis.