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slipcovers
01-16-2015, 12:22 PM
I heard on the Today Show that they are opening the flood gates for Cuba. How many illegals are going to buy a ticket to Miami and get lost in US?

Maybe Castro will empty the jails and mental institutions, like before, and give them a ticket.

I cant believe this is happening.

billethkid
01-16-2015, 12:52 PM
I heard on the Today Show that they are opening the flood gates for Cuba. How many illegals are going to buy a ticket to Miami and get lost in US?

Maybe Castro will empty the jails and mental institutions, like before, and give them a ticket.

I cant believe this is happening.

Hmmmnnn!!! I wonder if there is a pattern? The states most affected? CA, TX, FL.

Why is there not a need or incentive or desire to open the borders between the US and Canada? Ditto for the Europen and other countries entrants via the east coast?

Just why is that? Since it is political we won't be able to pursue it :cus:!

Rags123
01-16-2015, 12:57 PM
Hmmmnnn!!! I wonder if there is a pattern? The states most affected? CA, TX, FL.

Why is there not a need or incentive or desire to open the borders between the US and Canada? Ditto for the Europen and other countries entrants via the east coast?

Just why is that? Since it is political we won't be able to pursue it :cus:!

It is scary for our country, but as you say....mum is the word

slipcovers
01-16-2015, 01:28 PM
Hmmmnnn!!! I wonder if there is a pattern? The states most affected? CA, TX, FL.

Why is there not a need or incentive or desire to open the borders between the US and Canada? Ditto for the Europen and other countries entrants via the east coast?

Just why is that? Since it is political we won't be able to pursue it :cus:!

Oh, but it is. Anyone can buy a ticket, come, and "get lost". No one is looking for them. I believe they can stay 3 mos but if they choose to stay, no one is looking for them. There are hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants that fly in. We only hear about the ones coming over the Rio Grande.

tuccillo
01-16-2015, 01:58 PM
As they say, "elections have consequences". This is direct result of the choices people made when they voted. I would expect this sort of trend to continue based on the changing demographics.


I heard on the Today Show that they are opening the flood gates for Cuba. How many illegals are going to buy a ticket to Miami and get lost in US?

Maybe Castro will empty the jails and mental institutions, like before, and give them a ticket.

I cant believe this is happening.

Uptown Girl
01-16-2015, 02:21 PM
I heard on the Today Show that they are opening the flood gates for Cuba. How many illegals are going to buy a ticket to Miami and get lost in US?

Maybe Castro will empty the jails and mental institutions, like before, and give them a ticket.

I cant believe this is happening.

"Critics have said the US has played into the hands of the Castro brothers by relaxing sanctions without obtaining commitments from them to expand freedoms for Cubans. Cuba remains one of the most repressive nations in the world, according to human rights groups and the State Department, which have cataloged the ways it smothers dissent through arbitrary arrests, government intimidation, selective prosecution and control of the news media."

Most Cubans do not have the means to buy a plane ticket, much less anything else.
The tentative agreement does not allow for Cubans to travel out.

Even if (with outside help) they managed to get a ticket, then managed to get themselves to one of the ONLY two runways- and managed to get on a chartered plane without being questioned, they would leave with the knowledge that they have put remaining family members at very real risk of repercussion.
I don't think you need to be worried anytime soon about a flood of Cubans arriving by plane to Miami.

And…. on the occasion when Castro sent us his criminals and mental patients he crowded them onto a commandeered boat. No expense.

Although the government owns the only airline, (Cubana) and could load them up without buying plane tickets it still would cost the government $$$ in fuel and landing fees to fly their undesirables out.
As of now, Cubana does not fly to the U.S.

redwitch
01-16-2015, 02:31 PM
Irish need not apply. Colored water fountains. Separate but equal. No Chinee allowed. As long as I can remember, people have bemoaned immigrants and people of color here, legal and illegal. America is a nation of change, always has been, always will be. Most people don't like change. I'm not a big fan of bending over backwards (ESL, etc.) for our newest immigrants but if they can and are willing to work, if they want to be part of this great nation, let 'em come.

rubicon
01-16-2015, 02:54 PM
Irish need not apply. Colored water fountains. Separate but equal. No Chinee allowed. As long as I can remember, people have bemoaned immigrants and people of color here, legal and illegal. America is a nation of change, always has been, always will be. Most people don't like change. I'm not a big fan of bending over backwards (ESL, etc.) for our newest immigrants but if they can and are willing to work, if they want to be part of this great nation, let 'em come..

Hi Redwitch: I have read many of your posts and you appear to be a very intelligent and logical individual. So the comparison between those emigrating to America via legal channels (Ellis Island etc) vis a vis comparing them to illegal aliens is a non sequitur. The reason people use to be required to come through the front door should be obvious to almost everyone. This is not a West Side Story its about the fact that illegals are well illegal creating safety, health security and economic and employment concerns

redwitch
01-16-2015, 03:30 PM
Most Chinese were illegal. Many Irish were, too. Ditto Jews pre-WWII. Whether we like it or not, America has always been a Mecca for those wanting something better and those already here bemoaning the changing population. What bothers me about this wave of immigrants, legal or illegal, is there is no desire to make this their home. They want to work here, earn funds to send their families and then return to their countries of origin after a certain goal has been reached and, worse yet, America (and not just the present administration) has kowtowed to them. America deserves better than people using it as a way station.

We do need to take back America. We need to let immigrants know they are welcome so long as they will respect our laws, learn our language, assimilate and become Americans. Otherwise, you're welcome here as a tourist, but no jobs, no funding, no schooling.

cherylncliff
01-16-2015, 03:31 PM
I fully agree with Redwitch. Also, before you post that the sky is falling, you should get the facts. The floodgates have not been opened. The intent is to begin to normalize relations, establish diplomatic contacts to allow direct discussions and to allow families to see each other not to mention increase trade that American Corporations would love to have.

billethkid
01-16-2015, 04:36 PM
Most Chinese were illegal. Many Irish were, too. Ditto Jews pre-WWII. Whether we like it or not, America has always been a Mecca for those wanting something better and those already here bemoaning the changing population. What bothers me about this wave of immigrants, legal or illegal, is there is no desire to make this their home. They want to work here, earn funds to send their families and then return to their countries of origin after a certain goal has been reached and, worse yet, America (and not just the present administration) has kowtowed to them. America deserves better than people using it as a way station.

We do need to take back America. We need to let immigrants know they are welcome so long as they will respect our laws, learn our language, assimilate and become Americans. Otherwise, you're welcome here as a tourist, but no jobs, no funding, no schooling.

But they are not. Millions have been here long enough to have the next generation and they are still illegal. They demand to keep their own language and demand that we provide them everything in their language (and like dummies we do).

Those coming in the front door agree with and do just what is highlighted. The illegals have every incentive to not to have to do so. Soon those coming in the front door will say screw it and live the illegal, no penalty, no enforcement no problem lifestyle here in the good old USA.

I am a Take Back America advocate. That means I yearn for and will put as much effort as legally allowed to move this country back to constitutional, federal and local law enforcent of existing laws.

Rags123
01-16-2015, 04:47 PM
Most Chinese were illegal. Many Irish were, too. Ditto Jews pre-WWII. Whether we like it or not, America has always been a Mecca for those wanting something better and those already here bemoaning the changing population. What bothers me about this wave of immigrants, legal or illegal, is there is no desire to make this their home. They want to work here, earn funds to send their families and then return to their countries of origin after a certain goal has been reached and, worse yet, America (and not just the present administration) has kowtowed to them. America deserves better than people using it as a way station.

We do need to take back America. We need to let immigrants know they are welcome so long as they will respect our laws, learn our language, assimilate and become Americans. Otherwise, you're welcome here as a tourist, but no jobs, no funding, no schooling.

I am so glad you made this second post to this thread !!!!

I agree with you because I welcome immigrants of ANY COLOR, ANY CREED...makes not difference.

The difference is the world today versus what you compared it to. Then, you could not kill a lot of people just be getting in the country, and I doubt the percentage of folks who wanted to do that was very high (being a bit sarcastic)

And your last points well taken but not something that is happening nor something it appears our leaders are even striving for.

Funny, well not humorous funny, but Martin Luther Kings widow had a great fear of the immigrant movement because she feared they would take jobs from the black population.

NYGUY
01-16-2015, 04:51 PM
Well thank God this is only a political discussion....when I saw the name of the thread, I was afraid Martians were coming:eek:

Rags123
01-16-2015, 04:53 PM
Well thank God this is only a political discussion....when I saw the name of the thread, I was afraid Martians were coming:eek:

I do not consider public policy on behalf of my country to be political !!!

Discussion of public policy BETTER HAPPEN somewhere.

Wing-nut2
01-16-2015, 05:31 PM
Look up the wet foot/dry foot program for Cubans. Once a Cuban sets foot on dry land, they here. No need hide or run.

janmcn
01-16-2015, 06:25 PM
Many large American corporations are chomping at the bit to get into Cuba and set up shop, including airlines: Delta, American, Jet Blue; hotels: Marriott; home improvement: Home Depot; all the automobile companies; all of the internet access companies, all of the cruise ship companies, Coca Cola, and many, many more. Does anyone think that Congress is not going to vote to fund this embassy?

Barefoot
01-16-2015, 07:59 PM
Hmmmnnn!!! I wonder if there is a pattern? The states most affected? CA, TX, FL.
Why is there not a need or incentive or desire to open the borders between the US and Canada? Ditto for the Europen and other countries entrants via the east coast?
Just why is that? Since it is political we won't be able to pursue it.

As Canadians, this is a matter of great interest to us.
Although we have owned a home in The Villages since 2007, the United States government restricts us to 182 days stay in the US in a calendar year.
I believe the same restriction applies to Brits who own a home in the US.

We feel lucky to have a home in The Villages, and we would love to stay longer than six months in Florida.
However there is absolutely no legal way for us to do that.
We are required to fill out a form each year and submit it to the US government stating the number of days we've spent in the US in the previous year.
The US goverment refers to us as "Resident Aliens" during the time we stay in the US.
If we abuse the privilege afforded to us by the US government, and exceed our legal stay of 182 days, we can be barred from returning to the US for the next five years.

Sandtrap328
01-16-2015, 09:54 PM
Look up the wet foot/dry foot program for Cubans. Once a Cuban sets foot on dry land, they here. No need hide or run.

Absolutely right. The Cuban refugees are NOT illegal immigrants.

As some have said on other subjects, "If you do not like the law, get your Congressman to change it."

'nuff said.

fred53
01-16-2015, 10:12 PM
I heard on the Today Show that they are opening the flood gates for Cuba. How many illegals are going to buy a ticket to Miami and get lost in US?

Maybe Castro will empty the jails and mental institutions, like before, and give them a ticket.

I cant believe this is happening....it isn't happening...yet...

is the Today Show...unreliable at best. No need to overreact...yet...

kcrazorbackfan
01-16-2015, 10:16 PM
Welcome to America - home of the free, land of the brave and caretaker to all.

VT2TV
01-17-2015, 12:27 AM
I have no desire to debate this in any way, but for all of those who welcome anyone and everyone to this country, illegal or not, I just wonder how many more terrorist will just slide on in that open door. And the only thing I want to say about the debt involved is just 1 statistic involving the illegal immigrants that are currently "guests" of the govt.now. It is costing the US 75.00 a day to feed each person. So, when you add that and the millions of other dollars spent on illegals, it really is great for our trillions of dollars in debt. Think of the future you are leaving your children and grandchildren. I doubt they will thank you. Like I said, I won't defend numbers, IF you are interested, you can look it up. If not, I am sure this will just be disregarded

jblum315
01-17-2015, 07:59 AM
Well, maybe you want to go back to the days when the following message was painted on the front steps of the Breakers hotel in Palm Beach:
"No dogs. No Negroes. No Jews."

BobnBev
01-17-2015, 08:26 AM
Boy, this will pi$$ off illegal Mexicans if illegal Cubans take their jobs away!!!

sunnyatlast
01-17-2015, 09:09 AM
Well, maybe you want to go back to the days when the following message was painted on the front steps of the Breakers hotel in Palm Beach:
"No dogs. No Negroes. No Jews."

While you imply people posting here are racists and anti-Semites for wanting immigration laws to be enforced, maybe you could vilify those who held hands and played nice with Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Hamas, ISIS and others who are painting racist graffiti in this country that is far more deadly and genocidal than the no trespassing example you cited.

New York Magazine - October, 2014 - ISIS Graffiti is Cropping up in Washington DC

"In August, the Secret Service said they were looking into a tweet that apparently showed a photo of the black ISIS flag in front of the White House, with the message, “We are in your state We are in your cities We are in your streets You are our goals anywhere.” The Secret Service didn’t say whether they had verified the image, and I followed up with them, but apparently they’ve been busy with something else lately.

I also asked FBI spokesman Andrew Ames, who told me “we are aware of the graffiti” and “urge anyone who sees suspicious activity or if anyone has any information about this vandalism to report it to the local authorities or to the FBI.” It is worth noting, as the news about ISIS in America gets increasingly bizarre, that intelligence agencies are still not reporting any imminent terrorist threats — they are, however, trying to do a better job of reaching out to the young Muslims ISIS is trying to lure to the fight. More than 100 Americans have tried to get to Syria so far….."

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/10/isis-graffiti-is-cropping-up-in-washington-dc.html

FBI steps in after ABC7 report on Jewish-owned D.C. business targeted by self-described ISIS militants | WJLA.com (http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/01/jewish-owned-d-c-business-targeted-by-self-described-isis-militants-110539.html)

Rags123
01-17-2015, 09:16 AM
Well, maybe you want to go back to the days when the following message was painted on the front steps of the Breakers hotel in Palm Beach:
"No dogs. No Negroes. No Jews."

I think this country would welcome any and all, especially those who have murdered police officers and such, who are living in Cuba and will never come back because our new friend Cuba protects them.

I think this country would welcome any an all, especially those who suffer under one of the most abusive civil rights regimes in the world.

Most, in this country would welcome them all, and welcome relationship with Cuba, but the terms are really hard to accept, and it is even more difficult to have folks try to place a guilt trip on anyone who respects the LAW of our land.

Mikeod
01-17-2015, 09:18 AM
Well, maybe you want to go back to the days when the following message was painted on the front steps of the Breakers hotel in Palm Beach:
"No dogs. No Negroes. No Jews."
Not comparable at all. That targeted citizens. This discussion is about non-citizens entering or staying illegally.

Mikeod
01-17-2015, 09:20 AM
Boy, this will pi$$ off illegal Mexicans if illegal Cubans take their jobs away!!!
Now that would have won the SwimDawg award if she is still on the board.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-17-2015, 09:56 AM
Oh, but it is. Anyone can buy a ticket, come, and "get lost". No one is looking for them. I believe they can stay 3 mos but if they choose to stay, no one is looking for them. There are hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants that fly in. We only hear about the ones coming over the Rio Grande.

That has not been my experience. My wife is from the Philippines and it took several months and several thousand dollars to get her here. She is now a legal permanent resident.

Except for residents of certain countries, one cannot simply buy a ticket and come here without a visa. We do have a no visa policy for some countries where a citizen of that country, I think Canada is one, can come here and stay for three months on their passport alone. But, I would doubt that that's the policy for Cuba.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-17-2015, 10:02 AM
I am so glad you made this second post to this thread !!!!

I agree with you because I welcome immigrants of ANY COLOR, ANY CREED...makes not difference.

The difference is the world today versus what you compared it to. Then, you could not kill a lot of people just be getting in the country, and I doubt the percentage of folks who wanted to do that was very high (being a bit sarcastic)

And your last points well taken but not something that is happening nor something it appears our leaders are even striving for.

Funny, well not humorous funny, but Martin Luther Kings widow had a great fear of the immigrant movement because she feared they would take jobs from the black population.

I, too am all in favor of immigrants coming here regardless of color or creed. As long as they do it LEGALLY.

It's amazing how in many discussions about immigration, some people (I'm not saying you) like to leave off the word "ILLEGAL". There is a big difference between going through the process and registering with the federal government and being here legally and those who sneak over the border and basically break into our country.

Our country is made up of immigrants and has a great tradition of welcoming those from foreign lands with open arms. But, we do have laws and regulations to control who comes here. When laws are not followed, chaos ensues. I don't think any of us want that.

billethkid
01-17-2015, 10:33 AM
in this thread a many like it I have yet to ever hear from the supporters of illegal immigration to EVER come back and state reason(s)why it is OK with them to accept or allow illegal entry???

I believe most of us are open to and accept the concept of immigration into the USA, and have done so for years. Some of our families come from those who immigrated here. We all know what our ancestors ELECTED to go through to enter and then stay in this country.

The current concept of allowing illegals to come in by the thousands with no identification/documentation or inspection and disappear into our economy and given all kinds of monetary assistance is just plainn and simple unAmerican. An insult to all who came here in the past and currently LEGALLY.

I do not particularly care why some think it is OK. It is not with me. It is against the law. It is against the wishes of many millions of current US citizens.

IT IS ILLEGAL!!!

redwitch
01-17-2015, 11:04 AM
I love America. It is a beautiful nation with truly wonderful people but ....

It gives lip service to welcoming immigrants, legal or otherwise. You are more than welcome if you are healthy and have money or a skill the U.S. wants. Look at the history. Chinese (most of whom came here illegally) were not welcomed although sorely needed in helping to build our railroads. Irish were relegated to the most menial jobs possible. Hitler actually offered to send German Jews to America but the offer was refused unless they could come with their property, which was not going to happen. More than one ship carrying Jews was turned away. Only Singapore allowed these ships to land and the people to disembark with no provisos. After the Civil War, the north had a huge wave of Afro-Americans. They were most assuredly not welcomed and were sorely mistreated even in the big cities.

Americans have repeatedly been afraid that the newest influx of immigrants would take their jobs, change their culture, take over. In a sense, they have been right. Every wave has made a difference to this nation in one way or another and, ultimately, considered to be Americans.

However, the difference with past immigrants and immigrants today (legal or otherwise) is the refusal to attempt to assimilate and the willingness of this country to accept that refusal. ESL became the law in the 70's. Sharia law is cited by some judges, especially in divorce cases. The Hispanic population is becoming the majority here.

To me, illegal or legal is irrelevant. What is relevant is the unwillingness by today's immigrants to become Americans. I don't want to live in Mexico or Nicaragua or Guatemala. I want to live in America. I don't want to speak Spanish. I may think English is a dumb language since it breaks every rule it has but it is the language of this country and it has its own beauty. I sincerely wish America would stay American but I don't think it will. As long as the Hispanic community votes, our politicians will listen. As long as the Hispanic community shops, the businesses will continue the option to have someone speak to them in their language. And so on and so forth. Their population here today is too large to ignore.

What can be changed -- no financial assistance, whether welfare, Medicaid, food stamps, housing, etc. -- unless you are here legally and then only on a limited basis. Legal or illegal, kids should be educated. It is to our benefit. However, rather than ESL, immersion programs.

America will change as the population changes. Many will not like the changes. That doesn't necessarily make the changes bad, just makes those of us who don't want change uncomfortable. Hopefully, the basic tenets of America will remain the same and this, I believe, will be the case.

sunnyatlast
01-17-2015, 11:10 AM
…… The current concept of allowing illegals to come in by the thousands with no identification/documentation or inspection and disappear into our economy and given all kinds of monetary assistance is just plainn and simple unAmerican. An insult to all who came here in the past and currently LEGALLY.

I do not particularly care why some think it is OK. It is not with me. It is against the law. It is against the wishes of many millions of current US citizens.

IT IS ILLEGAL!!!

What is illegal is LOVED and enabled by many.

But 25 states do NOT like what is illegal, and they are suing the Administration for doing it!

See map of those states and which ones like illegal immigration here:

25 states sue Obama over amnesty, but some states are silent | TheHill (http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/229682-25-states-sue-obama-over-amnesty-but-some-states-are-silent)


Bizdoc
01-17-2015, 09:38 PM
Actually, I think that you will find that any Cuban who arrives "dry feet" on US soil can claim asylum here. Been that way since the late 50s or early 60s. Thus, they won't be illegal.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-18-2015, 10:40 AM
Actually, I think that you will find that any Cuban who arrives "dry feet" on US soil can claim asylum here. Been that way since the late 50s or early 60s. Thus, they won't be illegal.

That won't be the case if the US lifts the embargo and reopens diplomatic relations with Cuba.

Bizdoc
01-18-2015, 04:50 PM
That won't be the case if the US lifts the embargo and reopens diplomatic relations with Cuba.

Only if Congress recinds the law. And you can bet that *that* will really get the Cuban community stirred up

virgind
01-23-2015, 08:59 AM
When we lived in the Keys it was nothing to see a bus load of illegals taken up to the Chrome detention center for processing. Then they would be released to their (sponsor) and off to Miami they would go. What people dont know is the give a ways they got . Five years health care money clothes. When they ran out of money they come back to the Keys (Caribbean Club) in Key Largo go in and tell the bar tender they just landed in turn he would call the Border Patrol and back through the system they would go. This is nothing new and it is big money in Miami. So what is the difference if we open up to Cuba or not. No biggy nothing has really changed. All politics in motion. ( I think its called votes)

Rags123
01-23-2015, 09:03 AM
When we lived in the Keys it was nothing to see a bus load of illegals taken up to the Chrome detention center for processing. Then they would be released to their (sponsor) and off to Miami they would go. What people dont know is the give a ways they got . Five years health care money clothes. When they ran out of money they come back to the Keys (Caribbean Club) in Key Largo go in and tell the bar tender they just landed in turn he would call the Border Patrol and back through the system they would go. This is nothing new and it is big money in Miami. So what is the difference if we open up to Cuba or not. No biggy nothing has really changed. All politics in motion. ( I think its called votes)

Not questioning you per se, as I have heard these stories, but do you have any links or any accrediation for this ? It is something I would like to read

virgind
01-23-2015, 09:12 AM
It really was never published that I know of. I worked with people that went through the system. Believe it or you dont have to. Another is the Haitians that came in. The Cubans wouldnt hire them in Miami so a lot of them lived in Homestead and came to the Keys to work. There was or is a bus line that ran all the way to Key West. So all the BS in nothing new.

Chi-Town
01-23-2015, 09:15 AM
This sounds similar. An interesting read to the end.

http://www.snopes.com/business/taxes/immigrants.asp

Sandtrap328
01-23-2015, 09:32 AM
When a Cuban is able to get ashore, he is considered "dry feet" and is able to get asylum and therefore not illegal. If the Navy or Coast Guard pick them up at sea, they are considered "wet feet" and are returned to Cuba.

The Haitians do not get this treatment and are considered illegal if they come to the USA without official documents.

virgind
01-23-2015, 10:06 AM
Not returned to Cuba taken to another island nation. Lived next to Border patrol and Coastys.

Gerald
01-23-2015, 10:57 AM
has anyone been to miami.

Sandtrap328
01-23-2015, 12:14 PM
Not returned to Cuba taken to another island nation. Lived next to Border patrol and Coastys.

This is from a Washington Post article that I Googled:

"This is the informal named given to a 1995 agreement under which Cuban migrants seeking passage to the United States who are intercepted at sea ("wet feet") are sent back to Cuba or to a third country, while those who make it to U.S. soil ("dry feet") are allowed to remain in the United States. The policy, formally known as the U.S.-Cuba Immigration Accord, has been written into law as an amendment to the 1966 Cuban Adjustment Act.

How does the Coast Guard enforce this policy?

The Coast Guard uses patrol boats, cutters and aircraft to patrol the seas and skies around southern Florida. Cubans intercepted at sea are interviewed by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service, which decides whether they have a well-founded fear of persecution and are thus eligible for asylum in a third country. If not, they are repatriated to Cuba."

Rags123
01-23-2015, 12:48 PM
This is from a Washington Post article that I Googled:

"This is the informal named given to a 1995 agreement under which Cuban migrants seeking passage to the United States who are intercepted at sea ("wet feet") are sent back to Cuba or to a third country, while those who make it to U.S. soil ("dry feet") are allowed to remain in the United States. The policy, formally known as the U.S.-Cuba Immigration Accord, has been written into law as an amendment to the 1966 Cuban Adjustment Act.

How does the Coast Guard enforce this policy?

The Coast Guard uses patrol boats, cutters and aircraft to patrol the seas and skies around southern Florida. Cubans intercepted at sea are interviewed by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service, which decides whether they have a well-founded fear of persecution and are thus eligible for asylum in a third country. If not, they are repatriated to Cuba."

The article you cite is EIGHT years old, but it still is in effect.

This recent article from about a month ago has a nice discussion of the pros and cons of continuing this program based on our new policies...

"Recently, US President Barack Obama, and his Cuban counterpart, Raul Castro, announced a new chapter of cooperation in US-Cuba relations. Is the “wet feet, dry feet” policy still relevant?

Jason Dzubow, author of the Asylumist, a thoughtful blog on asylum and refugee issues, thinks it’s time to end the policy."

Why the Cuba “wet feet, dry feet” policy should continue | Open Borders: The Case (http://openborders.info/blog/cuba-wet-feet-dry-feet-policy-continue/)

Then follows Mr Dzubow's comments followed by the authors opinions.

Then this from the Miami Herald yesterday...

"Havana acknowledged Wednesday that only Congress could change U.S. immigration laws for Cubans, but contended that there could be leeway in how the laws are implemented.

Cuban officials have long said they have serious concerns about the Cuban Adjustment Act and the U.S. wet foot/dry foot policy, and they repeated those concerns at U.S.-Cuba immigration talks in Havana."

Read more here: Havana: U.S. immigration policy for Cubans needs to change | The Miami Herald (http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/cuba/article7866573.html#storylink=cpy)

Hoping our congress can address this issue along with a total immigration policy.

virgind
01-23-2015, 01:15 PM
Sorry illegal is illegal why should we welcome them with open arms? Please tell me a good reason. I dont know of one.

Sandtrap328
01-23-2015, 03:30 PM
Sorry illegal is illegal why should we welcome them with open arms? Please tell me a good reason. I dont know of one.

The wet-foot, dry-foot policy makes it clear the Cubans who reach American shores are NOT ILLEGAL.

It is still written policy and will continue until Congress changes it. "The article you cite is EIGHT years old, but it still is in effect."


Petition your representative in Congress to change it if you do not like the policy.

janmcn
01-23-2015, 04:02 PM
The wet-foot, dry-foot policy makes it clear the Cubans who reach American shores are NOT ILLEGAL.

It is still written policy and will continue until Congress changes it. "The article you cite is EIGHT years old, but it still is in effect."


Petition your representative in Congress to change it if you do not like the policy.


Cubans have never been called illegals, since they started arriving in south Florida back in the early 60's. One of the reasons other Hispanic groups, such as Mexicans and South Americans hold this against them is because they receive this special treatment.

Rags123
01-23-2015, 04:11 PM
The wet-foot, dry-foot policy makes it clear the Cubans who reach American shores are NOT ILLEGAL.

It is still written policy and will continue until Congress changes it. "The article you cite is EIGHT years old, but it still is in effect."


Petition your representative in Congress to change it if you do not like the policy.

"THe future of the United States' five-decade embargo blocking trade with Cuba is suddenly and unexpectedly murky.

Although President Barack Obama shifted long-standing American policy on Wednesday, the embargo and the lesser known but critically important Cuban Adjustment Act are still in place. And there's no real prospect that the Republican-controlled Congress will change them in the new year."

"Obama's new policy on Cuba effectively ends the U.S. embargo as Florida and the world have known it for more than half a century, most likely leading to its gradual phase-out.

But significant parts will remain in effect, including a ban on American tourism to Cuba.

Obama made extraordinary use of his executive authority to greatly alter the U.S. relationship with Cuba.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-cuba-embargo-adjustment-act-20141217-story.html#page=1

Please stay tuned...NOTHING much happening yet

My opinion...another P ploy as he has ignored South America during the tenure. Cuba and Venzuela are partners and Venzuela is important in this equation.

gomoho
01-23-2015, 05:32 PM
So while the administration is making nice with Castro, he allows a Russian spy ship to dock on his shores the day after a US contingency arrives to work out details. Another slap in the face to the US.

Cisco Kid
01-23-2015, 05:48 PM
has anyone been to miami.

I worked Hurricane Andrew. That started my love of Florida.

Doro22
01-23-2015, 06:36 PM
has anyone been to miami.

Yes you might say that I have. I was born in St Francis Hospital in Miami Beach, and grew up in Miami. Lived there until I got married & moved around the U.S. & the world in early yrs. Then in my late twenties returned to S. Fl. & raised my family in Broward County. Ie: Hollywood, Fort Lauderdale area. So like what is your point?