A Dump In The Middle Of The Villages

[Jim 9922]

Judging from the permit renewal request published in the Daily Sun, the dump operating in the middle of the new area will continue to operate. I wonder how, or if, they will screen the road from 466A into the dump and if the landscaping around the top of the dump will be improved. Even now you can see piles of concrete and other rubble from various parts of Morse Blvd. Lots of heavy, dusty dump trucks going to and fro, and pushing all that stuff around in the pit, covering it with dusty dirt, etc. I wouldn't want to live near that thing! I wonder what will be disclosed to the potential home buyers.
So far they all they have done is to build a couple of golf courses on the west side of the dump.

[JourneyOfLife]

Is is a garbage dump or just construction debris (e.g. rubble, concrete, dirt)?

[dbussone]

Is is a garbage dump or just construction debris (e.g. rubble, concrete, dirt)?


Construction

[janmcn]

Is is a garbage dump or just construction debris (e.g. rubble, concrete, dirt)?

Construction


Is anybody there checking to see what is being dumped at this dump?

[Cedwards38]

It's construction debris. Nothing to be alarmed about. It'll be gone when construction is complete.

[joldnol]

they are building two additional execs around the eastern side......Escambia and Okeechobee

[Bogie Shooter]

Judging from the permit renewal request published in the Daily Sun, the dump operating in the middle of the new area will continue to operate. I wonder how, or if, they will screen the road from 466A into the dump and if the landscaping around the top of the dump will be improved. Even now you can see piles of concrete and other rubble from various parts of Morse Blvd. Lots of heavy, dusty dump trucks going to and fro, and pushing all that stuff around in the pit, covering it with dusty dirt, etc. I wouldn't want to live near that thing! I wonder what will be disclosed to the potential home buyers.
So far they all they have done is to build a couple of golf courses on the west side of the dump.

I guess you could go to the public hearing to express your concerns. You did see that date in the article?

[JoMar]

:agree:I guess you could go to the public hearing to express your concerns. You did see that date in the article?

:agree:

[kcrazorbackfan]

It's construction debris. Nothing to be alarmed about. It'll be gone when construction is complete.

Gone as in "gone" or gone as in covered up?

[rubicon]

Dump NIMBY:police:

[looneycat]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz :shrug:

[skip0358]

It's been there and will be there. No big deal it's only construction debris. Where pray tell would you like them to haul it. This is not new it's a renewal to continue use. It does not stink like garbage. Just looks like a mountain with landscaping on it. Gee

[SouthOfTheBorder]

Judging from the permit renewal request published in the Daily Sun, the dump operating in the middle of the new area will continue to operate. I wonder how, or if, they will screen the road from 466A into the dump and if the landscaping around the top of the dump will be improved. Even now you can see piles of concrete and other rubble from various parts of Morse Blvd. Lots of heavy, dusty dump trucks going to and fro, and pushing all that stuff around in the pit, covering it with dusty dirt, etc. I wouldn't want to live near that thing! I wonder what will be disclosed to the potential home buyers.
So far they all they have done is to build a couple of golf courses on the west side of the dump.

Hey Jim

We have lived south of 466A for almost two years and just learned about this landfill operation a few months ago. Although it is about an 8-10 min cart ride away we haven't been exposed to any of the conditions you are concerned about. We do appreciate your heads-up.

Don

Almost forgot, I like your tag line, it fits your topic perfectly :thumbup:

[JourneyOfLife]

I think it is a very valid concern. Depending on how that land can, or might be used, in the future it could be a very big concern.

Are there any limits regarding the use of it as a dump now and in the future?

Is there any form a reclamation plan in place with an established timeline?

Dumps sometimes have a bad habit of being expanded both in size and scope over time!!! It happens more than you might expect.

[CWGUY]

I guess you could go to the public hearing to express your concerns. You did see that date in the article?

And if he does go..... I sure hope he talks about that "dusty dirt". :shrug:

[sunnyatlast]

I think the title of the thread is misleading and frightening to people who are looking at buying here or are newbies here. It also paints an unnecessarily grim picture for people who might be selling their homes that are truly "in the middle of TV".

For one thing, "dump" indicates residential or commercial/industrial waste, as in rotting and stinky and many, many trucks going in and out that would disturb the peace with noise, truck braking, hydraulic lift noises going up and down, etc.

If this is a construction debris landfill or above-ground construction debris disposal site, then CALL it that.

And be more accurate about where it is. Lake Sumter Landing is truly "in the middle of TV", and that is not the area in question.

[Bogie Shooter]

I think the title of the thread is misleading and frightening to people who are looking at buying here or are newbies here. It also paints an unnecessarily grim picture for people who might be selling their homes that are truly "in the middle of TV".

For one thing, "dump" indicates residential or commercial/industrial waste, as in rotting and stinky and many, many trucks going in and out that would disturb the peace with noise, truck braking, hydraulic lift noises going up and down, etc.

If this is a construction debris landfill or above-ground construction debris disposal site, then CALL it that.

And be more accurate about where it is. Lake Sumter Landing is truly "in the middle of TV", and that is not the area in question.

I wonder why the post was even made?

[njbchbum]

I wonder why the post was even made?

Jealousy?
Regrets?
Sour Grapes?
All of the above?
None of the above?

[Mikeod]

We got trouble, right here in TV. With a capital T and it rhymes with D and it stands for Dump.

[joldnol]

It will make for delightful elevation changes on the 4 executive golf courses that will ring it. I hearby dub thee Morse Mountain

[Chi-Town]

"Morse Mountain" may become another golf course one day.

http://www.golf.com/photos/waste-not-want-not#1

[Cedwards38]

Gone as in "gone" or gone as in covered up?

You'll never know! :-) Not sure really. Could be six feet under at a tee box.

[VillagerNut]

:undecided: If you think it is only construction materials at the "Transfer Station" then you need to sit outside at McDonalds on 466A and watch the landscaping company trucks go up FULL and come back down empty. It is a BIG compost pile that has repeated problems with the rotten egg or sewage smell in the very hot summer days. If you ask the developer sales reps they tell you that it is a transfer station where they take all of our recycling to it and then transfer it to Orlando. Part of that information is correct but they leave the lawn clippings, etc. behind as a compost dump. So if you are golfing in that area during the summer and smell something like rotten eggs or sewage, now you know what you are smelling! Our winds generally go from east to west in the summer so houses west of that area have had a smell around them also. So it can be a problem for folks!

[Bogie Shooter]

Those sales reps are always lying........................

[RickeyD]

Those sales reps are always lying........................


My wife and I took the Village trolley for a ride last year. The "tour" guide had nothing but good things to say about The Villages of course. What I didn't like was his assertion that there is virtually NO crime here. What a lie that was.

[graciegirl]

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[graciegirl]

My wife and I took the Village trolley for a ride last year. The "tour" guide had nothing but good things to say about The Villages of course. What I didn't like was his assertion that there is virtually NO crime here. What a lie that was.



Please. Bogie was KIDDING.

There isn't much crime here.

[Carla B]

Are there buzzards flying around the dump?

[villagetinker]

OK, we need to get to the bottom of this:

Mr. Developer, what is the final state of the "dump", will the material remain there, will it be collected up to a point in time and then transferred to another off site location? If the material remains on site, are there any concerns about decomposition (wood, paper, etc.) or leaching into the environment (wallboard, metal, plastics, etc.)

So hopefully someone associated with the developer, will provide a suitable response to end the rumors and conjecture.

Just my thoughts.

[Bogie Shooter]

OK, we need to get to the bottom of this:

Mr. Developer, what is the final state of the "dump", will the material remain there, will it be collected up to a point in time and then transferred to another off site location? If the material remains on site, are there any concerns about decomposition (wood, paper, etc.) or leaching into the environment (wallboard, metal, plastics, etc.)

So hopefully someone associated with the developer, will provide a suitable response to end the rumors and conjecture.

Just my thoughts.

I guess you need to go to the public hearing...........................

[MaxCat]

It's been there and will be there. No big deal it's only construction debris. Where pray tell would you like them to haul it. This is not new it's a renewal to continue use. It does not stink like garbage. Just looks like a mountain with landscaping on it. Gee

Unfortunately, it does smell. You can smell it when you are driving along Morse Road or when you are golfing at one of the adjacent golf courses, or when you are at the Sarasota golf center, or at one of the many houses built nearby.

[graciegirl]

Unfortunately, it does smell. You can smell it when you are driving along Morse Road or when you are golfing at one of the adjacent golf courses, or when you are at the Sarasota golf center, or at one of the many houses built nearby.


Welcome to the forum, MaxCat. First post!

[Walt.]

When the pile gets big enough the Morse family plans to dump snow on it and build a few chalets around it. It's to be called the Sonny Bono Memorial Ski Village.

[dbussone]

When the pile gets big enough the Morse family plans to dump snow on it and build a few chalets around it. It's to be called the Sonny Bono Memorial Ski Village.

Will there be a Cher chalet?

[TheVillageChicken]

When the pile gets big enough the Morse family plans to dump snow on it and build a few chalets around it. It's to be called the Sonny Bono Memorial Ski Village.

In 1998, after Michael Kennedy and Sonny Bono were both killed by skiing into trees, someone with administrative rights (I have no idea who it could have been) created an email account on a USAF Exchange server and sent out the following email to everyone on base.

From: The Trees
Subject: Stop the Logging

We will continue to kill one celebrity per week until the logging ceases.

The Trees

[GPGuar]

It does not smell... I have lived by Sarasota for the last two years and NEVER smelled anything coming from the dump! It's only construction debris how could it smell?::o

[SouthOfTheBorder]

Unfortunately, it does smell. You can smell it when you are driving along Morse Road or when you are golfing at one of the adjacent golf courses, or when you are at the Sarasota golf center, or at one of the many houses built nearby.

You are right, there is a smell occasionally but it not coming from the landscape landfill. It is coming from all the (wet damp) earth being moved/graded for the new executives courses. It is very noticeable when earth moving work around the ponds is active. For example there is no odor today. The occasional odor started with the construction a few months ago.

It makes no sense the developer would place a smelly garbage dump in the middle on The Villages.

Don

[2BNTV]

There isn't much crime here.

:agree:

Show me an area where there is no crime and I show you a cemetary.

Someone asked me last if there was no crime in TV. I replied, "very little crime", is more accurate.

Back to the dump...... er, construction debris.

[keithwand]

Best looking landfill (construction material) around surrounded by golf courses and sorry but N0 smell.

[wudda1955]

You are right, there is a smell occasionally but it not coming from the landscape landfill. It is coming from all the (wet damp) earth being moved/graded for the new executives courses. It is very noticeable when earth moving work around the ponds is active. For example there is no odor today. The occasional odor started with the construction a few months ago.

This is it--exactly. It smells like sulfur, and not sewage. Still gross and unpleasant, but I know that as soon as they're finished moving the earth around over there, the smell will go away.

[herbaru]

Not sure if this is the same place folks are talking about, but sure looks like the location.
Hewitt Contracting Company Contact Information (http://hewittcontracting.com/landfills.html)

[kittygilchrist]

Best looking landfill (construction material) around surrounded by golf courses and sorry but N0 smell.

Agree. Have been many many times running up the hill that is now a tee on Volusia. It is a wonderful place for a view and is odorless.

[Carla B]

Some RC model members took used lumber there recently and the dump refused to take it because it was treated lumber. So they must be pretty picky about which construction materials they accept.

[Bogie Shooter]

Unfortunately, it does smell. You can smell it when you are driving along Morse Road or when you are golfing at one of the adjacent golf courses, or when you are at the Sarasota golf center, or at one of the many houses built nearby.

You are smelling something else.

[dbussone]

You are smelling something else.

Burke's? They smoke lots of BBQ.

[justjim]

Not sure if this is the same place folks are talking about, but sure looks like the location.
Hewitt Contracting Company Contact Information (http://hewittcontracting.com/landfills.html)

Looks to me like you got it. :crap2: Any real concerns---I would attend the public meeting "listen" and voice any concerns. The new Village of Fruitland Park is just east of this site. I would think the Developer would see to it that the landfill was closed if there was a even a slight problem with it----no way they would want to jeopardize those high priced homes.

[JoMar]

My wife and I took the Village trolley for a ride last year. The "tour" guide had nothing but good things to say about The Villages of course. What I didn't like was his assertion that there is virtually NO crime here. What a lie that was.

I think the tour guide was right......there is virtually no crime here. There are 57 thousand houses here, assuming 20 break ins a year, oh heck, lets say 50, maybe 100. or 500. that is still virtually no crime. Compare to other 100K population communities and I think you will understand how truthful he was.

[TV-4-2]

I have yet to see the developers do anything that didn't end up beautiful.
It's in their best interest.