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dp000
01-31-2015, 08:14 AM
While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??

fred53
01-31-2015, 08:27 AM
No, but I do agree that those extras are a bogus way to enhance their bottom line....sleazy is the word that comes to mind...cheap also fits...I'd drink else where...odd I'm not charged for "rocks" when I order water....

Cedwards38
01-31-2015, 08:47 AM
Bring me an ice water, and hold the water. I'll also have two shots of scotch please!

Doro22
01-31-2015, 09:05 AM
Ah oh...I can see it coming now. The die hard defenders of that country club conglomerate are going to jump on here and defend sleazy practices to the hilt. I am from Ft. Lauderdale & have travelled & eaten out in numerous restaurants over the past few yrs, including Ft. Lauderdale, Miami, Key West, throughout the Fl Keys, San Francisco, Monterey, Pebble Beach, Boston & various places along the lovely New England coastline. I must say I have never ever seen a charge for ice cubes. Just whom do they think they are fooling with here...people who just jumped off a banana boat? Unbelievable!

virgind
01-31-2015, 09:33 AM
We go off campus more and more when we go out. They talk about disposable income just dont like disposing of it all at once.

blueeagle65
01-31-2015, 09:36 AM
Unacceptable. Me thinks a boycott is in order.

tuccillo
01-31-2015, 09:38 AM
I always ask what the drink specials are. If I am ordering something else I try to ask how much.

While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??

Sandtrap328
01-31-2015, 09:40 AM
I have never heard of charging extra for Rose's Lime Juice in a gimlet since that is part of a gimlet.

As for charging extra money ($2) for ice, I find that very hard to believe. I have been told of being charged more for straight liquor without ice because you get more liquor.

For the scoop direct from the source, why doesn't someone just put in a phone call to the manager at Belle Glade and ask him directly AND post his answer?

Me? I very rarely go that far South. I stick mainly with Lopez, Glenview, and Hacienda Hills. All very nice clubs.

Walter123
01-31-2015, 10:01 AM
I have never heard of charging extra for Rose's Lime Juice in a gimlet since that is part of a gimlet.

As for charging extra money ($2) for ice, I find that very hard to believe. I have been told of being charged more for straight liquor without ice because you get more liquor.

For the scoop direct from the source, why doesn't someone just put in a phone call to the manager at Belle Glade and ask him directly AND post his answer?

Me? I very rarely go that far South. I stick mainly with Lopez, Glenview, and Hacienda Hills. All very nice clubs.

I agree. I think there's some fibbing going on here to cause a stir.

Oh, Mr Bond, you want it shaken not stirred? That will be $2 extra. LOL

Bonny
01-31-2015, 10:06 AM
I have never heard of charging extra for Rose's Lime Juice in a gimlet since that is part of a gimlet.

As for charging extra money ($2) for ice, I find that very hard to believe. I have been told of being charged more for straight liquor without ice because you get more liquor.

For the scoop direct from the source, why doesn't someone just put in a phone call to the manager at Belle Glade and ask him directly AND post his answer?

Me? I very rarely go that far South. I stick mainly with Lopez, Glenview, and Hacienda Hills. All very nice clubs.
You are correct. You get charged more for ordering a drink on the rocks. However, that is not to pay for the rocks (ice). That is because you get more alcohol when you order straight liquor. Many places do this.

tommy steam
01-31-2015, 10:44 AM
While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??

How much was that drink?

alwann
01-31-2015, 10:46 AM
It's not just the country clubs. I had a Martini at Riccardi's in Brownwood and an additional charge was posted. It was up, not on the rock. So I suppose the olives were extra. If this keeps up, the unofficial Villages Cocktail (water with lemon) will carry a charge for the lemon.

TVMayor
01-31-2015, 10:54 AM
I think the $2.00 rock charge is for DUI insurance.

If you are drunk enough to pay $2.00 for ice you should be cut off.

Don’t believe me, ask your financial adviser.:beer3:

jimbo2012
01-31-2015, 11:04 AM
if you order beer does it cost more with a glass :beer3:

NYGUY
01-31-2015, 11:04 AM
While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??

If this is true, I just might have to quit drinking or the alternative and shoot myself....:beer3:....nah, that ain't going to happen either!!

Bonny
01-31-2015, 11:09 AM
No matter which way you order, either straight up or on the rocks there is an extra charge because you get more alcohol. There is not enough alcohol in a standard drink to do it straight up.
This is pretty common practice.

dp000
01-31-2015, 11:12 AM
tommy steam...the gimlet cost $3.75 plus the $1.00 for the Rose's Lime Juice=$4.75

karostay
01-31-2015, 11:18 AM
I heard from a good friend of a friend nephews uncles grandmother they also charge .25 for a straw :evil6:

jimmemac
01-31-2015, 11:29 AM
No matter which way you order, either straight up or on the rocks there is an extra charge because you get more alcohol. There is not enough alcohol in a standard drink to do it straight up.
This is pretty common practice.

more alcohol than what??

Bonny
01-31-2015, 11:36 AM
more alcohol than what??
They give you more alcohol in a drink straight up than the amount you would normally get in a drink that has a mix in it.
If you get scotch and soda, you usually get 1 shot of alcohol and then the soda.
If you just want scotch straight up, no soda, that 1 shot of alcohol would look pretty dismal in a glass all by itself so they give you more alcohol. LOL

Bonanza
01-31-2015, 11:40 AM
While at Belle Glade CC for dinner the other night, there was an extra $1.00 added to my vodka gimlet. (I just had the house vodka). When I questioned the waiter, he said that the $1.00 was for the splash of Rose's Lime Juice that was put into my gimlet.
I proceeded to tell him about being charged $.50 for ice in my gimlet at Redsauce. He said, "Our 'group' of CC restaurants charges $2.00 for "rocks" !!"
Of course, I said that that is BS, and he agreed.
Have any of you experienced these charges?? We feel that this needs to be stopped! Suggestions??

Bring me an ice water, and hold the water. I'll also have two shots of scotch please!

Yes, besides being annoying, the comments made me laugh.
It reminds me of Jack Nicholson in Five Easy Pieces about his sandwich in the diner routine.

Aside from that, I would refuse to pay for the lime juice and ice.
What are they going to do . . . throw you in jail?
If enough customers refuse to pay for those things, they'll get the message!

Yung Dum
01-31-2015, 11:43 AM
If this is true, I just might have to quit drinking or the alternative and shoot myself....:beer3:....nah, that ain't going to happen either!!
Extra charge for bullets?

2BNTV
01-31-2015, 11:48 AM
Only alternative is to drink at home, as it is much cheaper.

With all of the money spent in moving here, I would not be concerned over minor charges. If I was, I wouldn't go there to aggravate myself.

But that's me. :D

alwann
01-31-2015, 11:57 AM
They give you more alcohol in a drink straight up than the amount you would normally get in a drink that has a mix in it.
If you get scotch and soda, you usually get 1 shot of alcohol and then the soda.
If you just want scotch straight up, no soda, that 1 shot of alcohol would look pretty dismal in a glass all by itself so they give you more alcohol. LOL

You couldn't tell that from my drink. In fact, I wondered if the gin had been cut with water.

rubicon
01-31-2015, 12:18 PM
My best friend owed three restaurants once and told me he didn't make money with food served but over the bar.

My wife and I have never been fond of hard liquor. We also are particular on what we waste our calories on. So when we do go out for dinner and that is the stated purpose as opposed to going out for drinks. we order water with lemon. now if restaurants start charging for lemons or ice then we will order only water and if they charge for water then ........

l2ridehd
01-31-2015, 12:29 PM
If this is a "standard" practice, than it's news to me. I have never heard of any bar charging for things like ice and items taht are part of the drink. It's always built into the price of the drink. And if any bar in The Villages does that, it will be the last time I go there.

It seems a very common practice to find ways to stick it to you in the winter and than beg for your business in the summer. They need to learn that at least I don't forget that fast. I will patronize those place that treat customers like customers all year around.

sunnyatlast
01-31-2015, 12:35 PM
They do it "because they CAN".

These country club bar-restaurants run by the same restaurant group are an exercise in redundancy and monopoly. (Bonifay, Belle Glade, Evans Prairie, and now Orange Blossom)

See one, you've seen 'em all. It's boring!!!

keithwand
01-31-2015, 12:43 PM
if you order beer does it cost more with a glass :beer3:

Not yet but wait.

Fourthrock
01-31-2015, 12:55 PM
My wife and I are considering moving to TV and this kind of practice may keep us away. We have traveled the US working for the Department of Defense and HAVE NEVER seen this kind of Greedy Practice.

kcrazorbackfan
01-31-2015, 12:59 PM
Hmm. So the problem is minor charges added to a bill for alcohol; the cheapest and most simple solution would be to quit drinking. Bang, problem solved. You'll feel better in the morning and the wallet won't be as light.

sunnyatlast
01-31-2015, 01:32 PM
My wife and I are considering moving to TV and this kind of practice may keep us away. We have traveled the US working for the Department of Defense and HAVE NEVER seen this kind of Greedy Practice.

"Greedy Practice" beginning with capital letters?

Occupy Wall Street chapters are out there, looking for members having money without having to be present at a job every day. Members with trust funds would be even more welcome!

NECHFalcon68
01-31-2015, 01:37 PM
It happened at our table at Evans Prairie about 2 months ago. Our friend asked for vodka straight up and his wife got it on the rocks. They charged $2.50 for the straight up and $4.50 for the drink with ice.
The waitress said it was because a "drink on the rocks is a bigger pour"....
What-ever....

TVMayor
01-31-2015, 01:40 PM
2 ice cubes = $2.00 = 1 Gallon of gas = 31 miles

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tommy steam
01-31-2015, 01:45 PM
if you order beer does it cost more with a glass :beer3:

That might be in the works next! :pepper2:

njbchbum
01-31-2015, 01:49 PM
They give you more alcohol in a drink straight up than the amount you would normally get in a drink that has a mix in it.
If you get scotch and soda, you usually get 1 shot of alcohol and then the soda.
If you just want scotch straight up, no soda, that 1 shot of alcohol would look pretty dismal in a glass all by itself so they give you more alcohol. LOL

Why aren't "they" providing an appropriate size glass for the one shot?
What if the patron only desires one shot straight up? Must they drink more and pay more or just pay ore and leave what they don't want in the glass to waste? Would the bartender or establishment honor a request for just one shot in any glass and just charge for the one shot?

tommy steam
01-31-2015, 02:03 PM
I can only go from what I have seen in my brothers bars. He build and owned many bars in his lifetime. I never heard him charge for ice or more for a shot on the rocks, or a splash of anything in your drink. His idea was to keep his customers happy so they would come back. He was very successful in the bars that he owned. He owned two or three at a time.Maybe it's done here because they can and the majority doesent care.

tomwed
01-31-2015, 02:12 PM
It happened at our table at Evans Prairie about 2 months ago. Our friend asked for vodka straight up and his wife got it on the rocks. They charged $2.50 for the straight up and $4.50 for the drink with ice.
The waitress said it was because a "drink on the rocks is a bigger pour"....
What-ever....
It's a bigger pour. The extra money is for the extra alcohol.

This seems to explain how it is done elsewhere:
For most places a shot/mixed drink is 1.5 oz liquor, a rocks drink should be 2 ounces and a martini/manhattan should have 3 ounces.

Chances are their computer POS systems (register) have the whiskey prices under the price of a shot and have no separate button for it as neat so it would be added on, example:

Jameson $10 Jameson and Ginger/ Coke/Soda $10
Jameson neat/on the rocks $10 + $2 = $12 It wouldn’t make sense for them to charge you the same price for a shot of whiskey and a whiskey on the rocks because you’d be getting 1/2 oz more when you order on the rocks, you pay more for more pour.

So if anything 1.5 oz = $10, technically 2 oz drink should be $13.33 since an 0.5 oz is appx $3.33

See more at: $2 Upcharge for Ordering Your Scotch Neat? - Scotch AddictScotch Addict (http://scotchaddict.com/2-upcharge-for-ordering-your-scotch-neat.html#sthash.swlkhukl.dpuf)

KeepingItReal
01-31-2015, 02:43 PM
Hmm. So the problem is minor charges added to a bill for alcohol; the cheapest and most simple solution would be to quit drinking. Bang, problem solved. You'll feel better in the morning and the wallet won't be as light.

First time it happens, shame on them, second time it happens, shame on you, but then it's a lot more fun to complain....

Happinow
01-31-2015, 02:45 PM
I'm don't drink hardly at all but to me it sounds like the drink situation is ala carte drink ordering. So if you want a martini, the Varmouth is one price, then if you want ice that's another charge and then yet another charge for the olives? Never heard of such a thing. When you order a drink it should be one price because it wouldn't be a martini withou the olives or the Vermouth would it? It seems we are getting ripped off in a big way. Maybe we should start bringing our own garnishes, and put the ice from the ice water in our cocktail. Two can play this game.

ahayward65
01-31-2015, 02:58 PM
No matter which way you order, either straight up or on the rocks there is an extra charge because you get more alcohol. There is not enough alcohol in a standard drink to do it straight up.
This is pretty common practice.

If I am understanding this correctly then.....say a martini is $4.00, I order it on the rocks and there is a $1.00 extra charge but if I order it straight up then there is a $1.00 extra charge also. How convenient!!!

rubicon
01-31-2015, 03:09 PM
They do it "because they CAN".

These country club bar-restaurants run by the same restaurant group are an exercise in redundancy and monopoly. (Bonifay, Belle Glade, Evans Prairie, and now Orange Blossom)

See one, you've seen 'em all. It's boring!!!

We track together on many things

circletrack
01-31-2015, 03:47 PM
If anyone here is having trouble understanding why an on the rocks drink has a larger pour, experiment yourself at home with a shot glass, a drink glass and some water.

Step 1: Fill shot glass with water.
Step 2: Fill drink glass with ice.
Step 3: Pour water from shot glass into the drink glass.

Notice how the ice is not floating and the liquid is nowhere near filling the glass?
In a mixed cocktail, the soda, juice, whatever fills the rest.

If it's just on the rocks, only more alcohol will fill the glass.

You are being charged for extra pours of liquor.

What these establishments need to do, however, is spell this out clearly on the menu with a total price for the drinks, not separate charges.

jimmemac
01-31-2015, 05:27 PM
If anyone here is having trouble understanding why an on the rocks drink has a larger pour, experiment yourself at home with a shot glass, a drink glass and some water.

Step 1: Fill shot glass with water.
Step 2: Fill drink glass with ice.
Step 3: Pour water from shot glass into the drink glass.

Notice how the ice is not floating and the liquid is nowhere near filling the glass?
In a mixed cocktail, the soda, juice, whatever fills the rest.

If it's just on the rocks, only more alcohol will fill the glass.

You are being charged for extra pours of liquor.

What these establishments need to do, however, is spell this out clearly on the menu with a total price for the drinks, not separate charges.

Or a smaller glass would work??

circletrack
01-31-2015, 06:28 PM
Then we'd be hearing about how tiny the glasses are.

Like I said. It would be much easier just to list the prices in well and premium categories.

Mixed: X amount
On the rocks: X amount
Straight/Chilled: X amount

The surprise up charges seem to be the main problem.

NYGUY
01-31-2015, 11:41 PM
We went to Las Tapas in Brownwood for dinner tonight. I ordered an Absolute on the rocks (for those that don't know, that is vodka, nothing else) with a twist (also, for those that don't know (which includes most bartenders under the age of 40), that means a thin slice of lemon). Because of this thread, I looked at the bill. Cost of rocks, $1.50. When I asked the waitress about it, she said it was not really for the ice, but because of the larger pour. I have to admit, that I have complained many times about a restaurants tiny rocks glasses and resulting tiny drink. This was a decent size rocks glass with a decent size drink. It was worth $1.50 to me!!

Chatbrat
02-01-2015, 06:45 AM
The clubs have to make up for some of the antics of their customers. I see a customer bring their own mug with olives and an unknown liquid in it--after a while it was obvious she brought her own liquor and was drinking bottled beer--she was making her own boiler makers.

I've observed villagers freshening their drinks with their own mini bottles & flasks.

Bonny
02-01-2015, 11:23 AM
If you Google this....
do bars charge more for drinks on the rocks
You'll see pages about it. This has been going on all over for many years

jblum315
02-01-2015, 12:18 PM
I remember years ago being charged extra for ice in water in Canada because apparently Canadians don't like ice water.
But no extra charge for "rocks" with my Scotch in London. Just consternation because nobody there drinks whiskey with ice. They drink warm beer too.

dp000
02-01-2015, 12:44 PM
Well...I had a phone call from the operations mgr and an e-mail from the owner. According to both, the "rocks" charge isn't really a "rocks" charge...it is associated with the bigger "pour", as many of you have mentioned. They both said that it should be explained in terms, other than a "rocks" charge. DUH !!!
Neither of them could explain the extra $1.00 charged for the Rose's Lime Juice that was added to the vodka for the gimlet. I will, definitely, ask, next time if there will be a charge, BEFORE I order it.
I advised both men to have staff meetings and get the terminology cleared up, as well as instructing the servers and bartenders to tell customers about extra charges, when ordering.

Beechie
02-01-2015, 04:52 PM
I remember years ago being charged extra for ice in water in Canada because apparently Canadians don't like ice water.
But no extra charge for "rocks" with my Scotch in London. Just consternation because nobody there drinks whiskey with ice. They drink warm beer too.

That's not the Canada I know. Perhaps you were in a tourist area where they charge you for everything. We never get charged for ice at the restaurants we frequent. Being Canadian I can assure you that Canadians, like Americans, drink their liquor every which way. Canadians don't like warm beer. In fact, if available they typically enjoy their beer in a chilled glass or mug. They would rather drink out of the cold bottle than to pour it into a warm glass. Even Britain where warm beer is still enjoyed, if not preferred, is transitioning to a cold brew. This makes me thirsty just talkin' about it.

mickey100
02-01-2015, 04:54 PM
The clubs have to make up for some of the antics of their customers. I see a customer bring their own mug with olives and an unknown liquid in it--after a while it was obvious she brought her own liquor and was drinking bottled beer--she was making her own boiler makers.

I've observed villagers freshening their drinks with their own mini bottles & flasks.


We've seen that too. Some people are too much.

skip0358
02-02-2015, 08:17 AM
I must be one of those mug toting people. I bring a 12oz. Tervis Tumbler with me when I go out. It's empty when I get there and it's empty when I leave. It holds the same amount as the plastic cup that the Bartender pours your beer in. Mine doesn't sweat. and with an ice cube keeps my beer colder.I hate warm beer. I usually hand it to the Bartender and he fills it, this way making sure it's empty. Some places don't like that practice so I don't do it there. I do agree there are CHEAP low life people that sneak in their own beverages and that only hurts it for the rest of us.

Riccckkk
02-02-2015, 09:27 AM
A shot of liquor is one and a half ounces. You can put it in a six oz or sixteen oz glass, and it is still a shot which is what was purchased. If I purchase a Manhattan, I expect it to have vermouth, and the price of the drink should reflect that. All these extra charges are nothing but a sham and a way to rip people off. I can promise you I will never be going to these Country clubs again.

JoMar
02-02-2015, 02:24 PM
My wife and I are considering moving to TV and this kind of practice may keep us away. We have traveled the US working for the Department of Defense and HAVE NEVER seen this kind of Greedy Practice.

Lets see, you are ok with spending a couple hundred thousand for a home, paying a couple thousand to move your stuff, pay a monthly amenity fee, if a golfer 600+ for priority memberships but if you have to pay minor charges of less than 5 bucks that would keep you from moving here? Pretty obvious TV is not your kind of place. Business's are here to make a profit and they have every right to do that. The majority of those here understand that and judging the patronage at the clubs and other places, those that find a 5 dollar additional charge outrageous are, thankfully, in the minority.

bagboy
02-02-2015, 06:01 PM
Would a person (s) really decide where to live their retirement years based on comments made on this and any other online forum for that matter? Really ???

Paper1
02-03-2015, 12:00 PM
Probably the biggest downside to our community is there is so much discretionary income. Many businesses don't have to worry about repeat or satisfied customers. You leave your bar stool and two other will be fighting to sit in it. I'm not one of the above mentioned.

shcisamax
02-03-2015, 12:27 PM
Lets see, you are ok with spending a couple hundred thousand for a home, paying a couple thousand to move your stuff, pay a monthly amenity fee, if a golfer 600+ for priority memberships but if you have to pay minor charges of less than 5 bucks that would keep you from moving here? Pretty obvious TV is not your kind of place. Business's are here to make a profit and they have every right to do that. The majority of those here understand that and judging the patronage at the clubs and other places, those that find a 5 dollar additional charge outrageous are, thankfully, in the minority.

I don't think the cost of purchasing a home has anything to do with paying more for on the rocks. That is ridiculous. Or paying for Rose's lime juice. When you order a drink, you are paying for that drink.

As for someone having been affiliated with the Dept. of Defense not having seen such greed....surely you jest.

TNLAKEPANDA
02-03-2015, 12:43 PM
Bring me an ice water, and hold the water. I'll also have two shots of scotch please!

Hell... bring your own flask. These clubs are making good money. If they want to compete they better get their act together. They are starting to act like our government and trying to get every nickel out of you. Don't drink when you are eating out and save a bundle. :mademyday:

tomwed
02-03-2015, 12:57 PM
It's a bigger pour. The extra money is for the extra alcohol.

This seems to explain how it is done elsewhere:
For most places a shot/mixed drink is 1.5 oz liquor, a rocks drink should be 2 ounces and a martini/manhattan should have 3 ounces.

Chances are their computer POS systems (register) have the whiskey prices under the price of a shot and have no separate button for it as neat so it would be added on, example:

Jameson $10 Jameson and Ginger/ Coke/Soda $10
Jameson neat/on the rocks $10 + $2 = $12 It wouldn't make sense for them to charge you the same price for a shot of whiskey and a whiskey on the rocks because you’d be getting 1/2 oz more when you order on the rocks, you pay more for more pour.

So if anything 1.5 oz = $10, technically 2 oz drink should be $13.33 since an 0.5 oz is appx $3.33

See more at: $2 Upcharge for Ordering Your Scotch Neat? - Scotch AddictScotch Addict (http://scotchaddict.com/2-upcharge-for-ordering-your-scotch-neat.html#sthash.swlkhukl.dpuf)

ok - I took this math problem a step further.
Jameson cost $28 750ml 60 ounces click here (http://802spirits.com/price_guide/whiskey#scotchus)
60 oz/1.5 oz = 40 shots
$28/40 shots = 70 cents a shot is what it costs

Here's what I think:

How humiliating would it be to get caught sneaking in your own whiskey? Go outside, tip your flask and enjoy your shot if you can't wait until you get home. Remember the guy who stole the cigars.

How many people steal a shot from a country club everyday? Do you think there is even one a day? We are not being charged to make up a 70 cent loss for the day. I'll bet more then that gets spilled.

And this is for the guy that owns the bar. Charge the same for straight and on the rocks knowing that you lose 35 cents on the extra half ounce of Jameson. Your customers think you are charging for ice. The next time they pick out a bar they are going to the one "that doesn't charge for ice." If they go to yours because it's more convenient maybe they will only have one drink instead of two. You still don't make as much as you would have if they bought 2 drinks.

I don't think people go to bars to get hammered. They go for the camaraderie. A very social, funny, good bartender even makes it more fun. These bartenders are hard to find and will work where the tips are best. This will be the bar where the customer thinks the price of the drink is a good deal. They are all clean and safe around here.

bagboy
02-03-2015, 02:03 PM
Embarrassing? In most states taking your own alcohol into an establishment with a liquor license is against the law. Get caught and we'll talk about you in another thread.

tomwed
02-03-2015, 02:07 PM
Embarrassing? In most states taking your own alcohol into an establishment with a liquor license is against the law. Get caught and we'll talk about you in another thread.

And what if the flask is in the golf cart.
Besides,
you missed my entire point. The point was that it would be foolish to bring alcohol in an establishment to save a little money. That's why no one does it. OK maybe one or two out of a thousand but certainly not me.
Thanks for the warning.

bagboy
02-03-2015, 02:56 PM
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Topspinmo
02-08-2015, 09:16 PM
When drunk gets thirsty enough he'll pay the price! No matter how high the price maybe.

floridagirl94
02-08-2015, 10:25 PM
Being a bartender, let me help clear this up for you. Your average rum and coke, vodka tonic, etc has 1 1/4 ounces of liquor in a standard 8 ounce glass. The rest of the cocktail is made up of ice and mixer. When one orders and liquor on the rocks, you are given 2 ounces of liquor. All martinis and Manhattans also have a 2 ounce pour whether you order them "up" or on the rocks. You are paying for additional alcohol. If you only want to pay for 1 1/4 ounce of alcohol, request it to be served in a standard 1 1/4 ounce shot glass with ice on the side. I have been a bartender for 18 years and in the Villages for 7, it is standard practice at every bar I have worked in. You are practically getting a double for $1.50 more.

Or you could pay $3.50 for a single shot and then order another one, resulting in a $7.00 total or just pay the standard "rocks" charge for the additional pour and have a $5.00 bill. Saving yourself $2.00.

Makes sense to me, considering how inexpensive the drinks are in The Villages to begin with!

CHEERS!

D&Lsunfun
02-09-2015, 09:15 PM
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tomwed
02-09-2015, 09:29 PM
Being a bartender, let me help clear this up for you. Your average rum and coke, vodka tonic, etc has 1 1/4 ounces of liquor in a standard 8 ounce glass. The rest of the cocktail is made up of ice and mixer. When one orders and liquor on the rocks, you are given 2 ounces of liquor. All martinis and Manhattans also have a 2 ounce pour whether you order them "up" or on the rocks. You are paying for additional alcohol. If you only want to pay for 1 1/4 ounce of alcohol, request it to be served in a standard 1 1/4 ounce shot glass with ice on the side. I have been a bartender for 18 years and in the Villages for 7, it is standard practice at every bar I have worked in. You are practically getting a double for $1.50 more.

Or you could pay $3.50 for a single shot and then order another one, resulting in a $7.00 total or just pay the standard "rocks" charge for the additional pour and have a $5.00 bill. Saving yourself $2.00.

Makes sense to me, considering how inexpensive the drinks are in The Villages to begin with!

CHEERS!
Drinks are cheap here. But if it was my bar I would spell it out on a drink menu rather than have my bartender explain it to customers. They think they are paying extra for ice but won't embarrass themselves by asking.

The perception matters to you as a bartender. Tell your boss to raise the price for on the rocks drinks. Ask customers do you want it straight up for $3.50 or a double on ice for $5.50. You come off looking good. This means bigger tips and more profit.

Am I missing something?

Sandtrap328
02-09-2015, 09:48 PM
The vodka martinis I order at Nancy Lopez Club at Happy Hour are made with Grey Goose vodka and are only $3.75. Same thing for Mrs. Trap when she orders her Cosmopolitan with Grey Goose.

It is their Happy Hour price but Happy Hours are from 3-7. You can get mighty happy with those hours!

tomwed
02-09-2015, 09:55 PM
The vodka martinis I order at Nancy Lopez Club at Happy Hour are made with Grey Goose vodka and are only $3.75. Same thing for Mrs. Trap when she orders her Cosmopolitan with Grey Goose.

It is their Happy Hour price but Happy Hours are from 3-7. You can get mighty happy with those hours!
Yet another good reason to live on the north side of town.

bagboy
02-10-2015, 08:56 AM
[quote=tomwed;1009669]Drinks are cheap here. But if it was my bar I would spell it out on a drink menu rather than have my bartender explain it to customers. They think they are paying extra for ice but won't embarrass themselves by asking.

The perception matters to you as a bartender. Tell your boss to raise the price for on the rocks drinks. Ask customers do you want it straight up for $3.50 or a double on ice for $5.50. You come off looking good. This means bigger tips and more profit.

Am I missing something?

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Beechie
02-10-2015, 10:02 AM
Drinks are cheap here. But if it was my bar I would spell it out on a drink menu rather than have my bartender explain it to customers. They think they are paying extra for ice but won't embarrass themselves by asking.

The perception matters to you as a bartender. Tell your boss to raise the price for on the rocks drinks. Ask customers do you want it straight up for $3.50 or a double on ice for $5.50. You come off looking good. This means bigger tips and more profit.

Am I missing something?

I'll drink to that tomwed.

Topspinmo
02-10-2015, 03:25 PM
Yet another good reason to live on the north side of town.

Yep, but stay off the trails around 7PM, :bigbow:

Sandtrap328
02-10-2015, 05:50 PM
Yep, but stay off the trails around 7PM, :bigbow:

Well, actually around 7:30. It takes us a good half hour to find our carts in the parking lot! :MOJE_whot:

tomwed
02-10-2015, 06:15 PM
I tie a string from my belt loop to the cart's steering wheel. If somebody trips over it, that's their problem, not mine.