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senior citizen
02-03-2015, 12:55 PM
Islamic State video purports to show Jordanian pilot burnt alive (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/islamic-state-supporters-post-photos-purportedly-showing-jordanian-pilot-burnt-alive/ar-AA8WfI1)
Islamic State video purports to show Jordanian pilot BURNT ALIVE
gomoho
02-03-2015, 02:30 PM
How much more savage do they to become before the world stops this.
Blessed2BNTV
02-03-2015, 02:44 PM
Satan lives in these savages hearts and minds.
chuckinca
02-03-2015, 03:21 PM
Tomorrow at dawn the Jordanians are executing the woman prisoner they offered in exchange for the Jordanian pilot and the Japanese free lance writer.
Additional action by their military to follow.
.
tkret
02-03-2015, 03:38 PM
How much more savage do they to become before the world stops this.
Great question, gomoho. The world, and we are part of that, has heard the following quote millions of times.
..........
""In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
-- by Martin Niemöller, prominent German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor, best known as the author of the poem First they came....
.....
The world sleeps because it has NO leader to awaken them.
Rags123
02-03-2015, 03:58 PM
The world ignored THIS for the past 3 years, so why would anything change....
"More than 10,000 children have been killed in the Syrian civil war, the United Nations says, while many more are subjected to "unspeakable" suffering, including rape, torture and recruitment for combat.
Thousands more have also been forced to flee their homes during the three-year conflict, according to a report released this week to the Security Council and posted on the UN website."
10,000 Syrian children killed in civil war, others raped, tortured and maimed: United Nations - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-06/102c000-children-killed-in-syrian-civil-war3a-un-report/5241448)
NavyNJ
02-03-2015, 04:30 PM
Tomorrow at dawn the Jordanians are executing the woman prisoner they offered in exchange for the Jordanian pilot and the Japanese free lance writer.
Additional action by their military to follow.
.
Chuck - It appears that they're going a bit further than just the female failed suicide bomber.....latest reports indicate that at least FIVE Islamist/ISIS-related prisoners, including the female, have been moved to a prison in southern Jordan (Muwaqqar prison?? Not sure...) to be readied for hanging Wed AM local time. And, Jordan has advised ISIS that any remaining or future ISIS-related detainees/prisoners will meet a similar fate......period. Now, if the rest of the players in the region would get on board with that game plan, there might just be some progress in dismantling that organization.
And RIP to the Jordanian warrior fighter pilot......and peace to his family.
Bogie Shooter
02-03-2015, 04:49 PM
Chuck - It appears that they're going a bit further than just the female failed suicide bomber.....latest reports indicate that at least FIVE Islamist/ISIS-related prisoners, including the female, have been moved to a prison in southern Jordan (Muwaqqar prison?? Not sure...) to be readied for hanging Wed AM local time. And, Jordan has advised ISIS that any remaining or future ISIS-related detainees/prisoners will meet a similar fate......period. Now, if the rest of the players in the region would get on board with that game plan, there might just be some progress in dismantling that organization.
And RIP to the Jordanian warrior fighter pilot......and peace to his family.
This is a very important point!
billethkid
02-03-2015, 04:50 PM
some months ago when their was so much talk of the need for the USA to start bombing ISIS as they marched through Iraq. Then after several weeks of pondering the USA did commit to begin bombing after a speech was made that we will disrupt then destroy ISIS.
Some how the bombing came and went. ISIS has become more bold and brazen as evidenced by the savage killings of hostages.
Did I miss the update on the status of how the destroying of ISIS was progressing?
We all have some notion that the capability of the USA and many of our allies have the technical and military capability to seek out and destroy any target they DECIDE to destroy. What possible reason or more like excuse, why we and the rest of the world are allowing this cowardly savage group to continue to exist.
Shimpy
02-03-2015, 05:34 PM
Tomorrow at dawn the Jordanians are executing the woman prisoner they offered in exchange for the Jordanian pilot and the Japanese free lance writer.
Additional action by their military to follow.
.
Hurray for the Jordanians. I've just become big fans of them. Obviously this country with our wimpy leadership wouldn't do anymore than condemn the action and state those responsible will be brought to justice.......BS
chachacha
02-03-2015, 08:13 PM
it certainly would not be to release more prisoners from gitmo!
Paper1
02-03-2015, 08:20 PM
This was just a horrific act but before we start saber rattling we should pay for the conflicts we have had going for 13 years. We are sending our kids over there and sending their kids the bill. There should we a war tax that everyone pays if we get in further. I personally believe if Iraq and Afganistan were paid for as we went they wouldn't have happened or wouldn't have lasted very long.
JGVillages
02-03-2015, 09:37 PM
Any country that allows these terrorist groups to operate within their boarders should be subject to a coalition military action to eliminate these renegades. As with all "wars" unfortunately some innocents will be injured or killed. Unless the countries that allow safe harbor for these terrorists understand the consequences for doing so, the useles killing will continue.
sunnyatlast
02-03-2015, 11:43 PM
it certainly would not be to release more prisoners from gitmo!
That will now be accomplished by the Castro regime demanding Guantanamo back. It can then be conveniently blamed on them.
Then they can laugh at us some more when the terrorists go right back to their satanic nests to continue their plans for another 9-11 that's far more stunning.
DugCave
02-04-2015, 12:33 AM
The allied air forces bombing ISIS should start using napalm bombs. If they want to play with fire, lets give them a taste of their own medicine.
senior citizen
02-04-2015, 04:59 AM
it certainly would not be to release more prisoners from gitmo!
Exactly........... my thought as well.
senior citizen
02-04-2015, 05:02 AM
[QUOTE=chuckinca;1005949]Tomorrow at dawn the Jordanians are executing the woman prisoner they offered in exchange for the Jordanian pilot and the Japanese free lance writer.
Additional action by their military to follow.
The deed is done, along with a second Alkaeda prisoner
........and not too soon.
Insane barbarians that the world is up against; they think they are back in the crusades.
senior citizen
02-04-2015, 05:56 AM
chuck - it appears that they're going a bit further than just the female failed suicide bomber.....latest reports indicate that at least five islamist/isis-related prisoners, including the female, have been moved to a prison in southern jordan (muwaqqar prison?? Not sure...) to be readied for hanging wed am local time. And, jordan has advised isis that any remaining or future isis-related detainees/prisoners will meet a similar fate......period. Now, if the rest of the players in the region would get on board with that game plan, there might just be some progress in dismantling that organization.
And rip to the jordanian warrior fighter pilot......and peace to his family.
amen
senior citizen
02-04-2015, 06:02 AM
Great question, gomoho. The world, and we are part of that, has heard the following quote millions of times.
..........
""In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
-- by Martin Niemöller, prominent German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor, best known as the author of the poem First they came....
.....
The world sleeps because it has NO leader to awaken them.
SUPER EXCELLENT POST. INSIGHTFUL QUOTE........
""In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up."
-- by Martin Niemöller, prominent German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor, best known as the author of the poem First they came....
dplars
02-04-2015, 09:09 AM
I will sleep better tonight knowing our Leader says we are double our vigilance.
dplars
02-04-2015, 09:11 AM
The answer is for us to release all Gitmo detainees ........to Jordan.
sunnyatlast
02-04-2015, 12:54 PM
The answer is for us to release all Gitmo detainees ........to Jordan.
Yes. Restrained in animal cages.
But the outgoing attorney general will fight that, pro bono, when he returns to his law firm as before.
Covington & Burling LLP | Pro Bono | Overview (http://www.cov.com/probonooverview/probono.aspx?show=morehighlights)
graciegirl
02-04-2015, 01:16 PM
Yes. Restrained in animal cages.
But the outgoing attorney general will fight that, pro bono, when he returns to his law firm as before.
Covington & Burling LLP | Pro Bono | Overview (http://www.cov.com/probonooverview/probono.aspx?show=morehighlights)
It seems to be taking him a long time to leave. But the devil you know may be better than the devil you don't know.
villagetinker
02-04-2015, 03:26 PM
Ok, I am probably overly simplifying this....
1. Get as many nations on board (on the same side), against ISIS, a united front.
2. Cut off ALL AID to any country harboring/supporting the ISIS radicals.
3. Start a concerted effort to block ALL INTERNET access to and by the ISIS radicals and any supporters. This includes but not limited to deliberate cyber attacks on an and all Internet facilities providing access or support.
4. Cutoff ALL support for any and all financial institutions that may be providing or suspected of providing money laundering or support of ISIS. In this case, act first, apologize later.
5. Block the purchase or sale of any and all ISIS materials/products (oil, etc.).
6. Put the arms dealers out of business.
Bottom line, cut off all supplies to and from the radicals and their supporters. With any luck, this will weaken them sufficiently that they can be beaten into submission.
I rarely get into these discussions, but recent events require some form of response.
Tennisnut
02-04-2015, 05:21 PM
Unfortunately, the killing of the suicide bomber by the Jordanians will have little effect on ISIS since she was supposed to die on her failed mission. Sad but true.
tomwed
02-04-2015, 05:36 PM
from wikipedia
Private practice[edit]
From 2001 until he became Attorney General, Holder worked as an attorney at Covington & Burling in Washington, D.C., representing clients such as Merck and the National Football League.[5][10] He represented the NFL during its dog fighting investigation against Michael Vick.[29]
In 2004, Holder helped negotiate an agreement with the Justice Department for Chiquita Brands International in a case that involved Chiquita's payment of "protection money" to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, a group on the U.S. government's list of terrorist organizations.[30][31] In the agreement, Chiquita's officials pleaded guilty and paid a fine of $25 million. Holder represented Chiquita in the civil action that grew out of this criminal case.[31] In March 2004, Holder and Covington & Burling were hired by Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich to act as a special investigator to the Illinois Gaming Board. The investigation was subsequently canceled on May 18, 2004.[32]
The firm represented Guantanamo inmates but Holder "never participated directly in the firm's Guantanamo work", and is not expected to recuse himself from matters pertaining to it.[33]
During his years in private practice, Holder represented the Swiss private bank UBS. Because of this, he recused himself from participating in the Department of Justice investigation of UBS's abetting of tax evasion by U.S. account-holders and the prosecution of Brad Birkenfeld. (As Attorney General, he also had to bow out of the Roger Clemens contempt of Congress prosecution because the pitcher was once a client of Covington and Burling.)[34][35]
While D.C. v. Heller was being heard by the Supreme Court in 2008, Holder joined the Reno-led amicus brief, which urged the Supreme Court to uphold Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban and said the position of the Department of Justice, from Franklin Roosevelt through Clinton, was that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right to keep and bear arms for purposes unrelated to a State's operation of a well-regulated militia.[36] Holder said that overturning the 1976 law "opens the door to more people having more access to guns and putting guns on the streets."[37]
In late 2007, Holder joined then-Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign as a senior legal advisor. He served on Obama's vice presidential selection committee.[19]
graciegirl
02-04-2015, 07:22 PM
Private practice[edit]
From 2001 until he became Attorney General, Holder worked as an attorney at Covington & Burling in Washington, D.C., representing clients such as Merck and the National Football League.[5][10] He represented the NFL during its dog fighting investigation against Michael Vick.[29]
In 2004, Holder helped negotiate an agreement with the Justice Department for Chiquita Brands International in a case that involved Chiquita's payment of "protection money" to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, a group on the U.S. government's list of terrorist organizations.[30][31] In the agreement, Chiquita's officials pleaded guilty and paid a fine of $25 million. Holder represented Chiquita in the civil action that grew out of this criminal case.[31] In March 2004, Holder and Covington & Burling were hired by Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich to act as a special investigator to the Illinois Gaming Board. The investigation was subsequently canceled on May 18, 2004.[32]
The firm represented Guantanamo inmates but Holder "never participated directly in the firm's Guantanamo work", and is not expected to recuse himself from matters pertaining to it.[33]
During his years in private practice, Holder represented the Swiss private bank UBS. Because of this, he recused himself from participating in the Department of Justice investigation of UBS's abetting of tax evasion by U.S. account-holders and the prosecution of Brad Birkenfeld. (As Attorney General, he also had to bow out of the Roger Clemens contempt of Congress prosecution because the pitcher was once a client of Covington and Burling.)[34][35]
While D.C. v. Heller was being heard by the Supreme Court in 2008, Holder joined the Reno-led amicus brief, which urged the Supreme Court to uphold Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban and said the position of the Department of Justice, from Franklin Roosevelt through Clinton, was that the Second Amendment does not protect an individual right to keep and bear arms for purposes unrelated to a State's operation of a well-regulated militia.[36] Holder said that overturning the 1976 law "opens the door to more people having more access to guns and putting guns on the streets."[37]
In late 2007, Holder joined then-Senator Barack Obama's presidential campaign as a senior legal advisor. He served on Obama's vice presidential selection committee.[19]
This part of a link or your own composition?
billethkid
02-04-2015, 07:29 PM
Unfortunately, the killing of the suicide bomber by the Jordanians will have little effect on ISIS since she was supposed to die on her failed mission. Sad but true.
They must have offered to trade to get her back to .....punish her?
tomwed
02-04-2015, 07:48 PM
This part of a link or your own composition?
sorry--
it's from wikipedia
sunnyatlast
02-04-2015, 08:40 PM
Re tomwed's posts above:
"…..During his confirmation hearings in 2009, Holder came under scrutiny for his role as President Bill Clinton’s Deputy Attorney General in granting clemency to terrorists from the radical Puerto Rican radicals in the FALN organization. As the Los Angeles Times reported, Holder “instructed his staff at Justice’s Office of the Pardon Attorney to effectively replace the department’s original report recommending against any commutations.”
The FALN case was not the only troubling evidence of Holder’s sympathy for terrorists. Holder served as senior partner in the Covington and Burling law firm, which took on the cases of 17 Yemeni terror detainees being held at the Guantánamo Bay prison. Holder also represented Chiquita Brands International in a plea bargain over payments to the AUC, a Columbian terrorist paramilitary organization...
In 2010, Liz Cheney and her Keep America Safe organization pointed out that Holder’s Department of Justice (DOJ) included nine lawyers who had previously represented Al Qaeda terror suspects. Critics charged, falsely, that Cheney was arguing that terrorists did not deserve lawyers. She did not dispute their right to counsel, but did question whether those who volunteered to provide it could be trusted with the nation’s security……."
Eric Holder: Soft on Terror, Again - Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2013/04/29/eric-holder-soft-on-terror-again/)
Topspinmo
02-04-2015, 10:46 PM
I got one word: exterminate! I didn't build all the B52 engines for nothing. Lets put them to use!
senior citizen
02-05-2015, 05:31 AM
I got one word: exterminate! I didn't build all the B52 engines for nothing. Lets put them to use!
I agree. Strange coming from a lifelong pacifist.
However, after many years of seeing no end in sight of this barbarism, plus seeing the still photos (plus the video) of the young pilot at his end , I have no qualms about your suggestion.
FOX NEWS mentioned that Glenn Beck's private t.v. station had posted the still photos (about three or four; not looking at it at the moment).....plus the 20 some minute Hollywood Production movie they filmed of the young pilot in the cage........I used my search engine & I immediately came up with the link yesterday morning.
We watched it.......everyone should see it with their own eyes.
As horrible & inhumane as it is.......truly.......I had no nightmares & am not traumatized today........except with a stronger resolve that someone has to do something drastic & SOON. These people are totally INSANE.
The major networks were wrong NOT to show the public what happened to this brave young Jordanian pilot.
That promise of an "exchange" was a total sham.
Glenn Beck: The World Needs to See the Depravity of the Islamic State (GRAPHIC) | TheBlaze.com (http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/glenn-beck-the-world-needs-to-see-the-depravity-of-the-islamic-state-graphic/)
Glenn Beck: The World needs to see the depravity of the Islamic state
Keep scrolling to BELOW the still photos....it's a "movie" they put out.......
YOU HAVE TO CLICK ON THE ARROW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VIDEO OF HIM IN THE CAGE. DO NOT CLICK ON THE PATRIOTS AD AS THAT IS NOT IT.........IT IS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STILL PHOTOS.......A VIDEO........not the word video below that.
Before his "end" they show photos of burned babies, children......I figured from his bombing mission.....then buildings in rubble, all intersperced with pics of his fighter plane........anyone can see their PROPOGANDA FOR WHAT IT IS.
After his gruesome time in the cage........they show the heavy machinery dumping the cement pieces on top of his cage.
Everyone should see this EVIL EVIL ATROCITY. Jordan was too kind to simply hang the two Alkaeda terrorists.........& we were NUTS to let the GUANTANAMO PRISONERS FREE......
p.s. When I first went to his station, they asked for $1. which I never gave....just kept going to he "movie part" which this is. The "ad" ends quickly or just click the box.
FOX NEWS IS HOW I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS "MOVIE" & HOW TO VIEW IT.
BY THE WAY, TO ANYONE WHO WOULD THINK THAT SOMEONE MIGHT GET "JOY" OUT OF POSTING ANOTHER PERSON'S GRIEF.......THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE AT ALL..........THE ISSUE IS THAT THE WORLD NEEDS TO SEE WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST........AND NOT HAVE OUR HEADS IN THE SAND...........WE ARE NOT TODDLERS, BUT GROWNUPS WHO HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF LIFE.........& ARE CONCERNED FOR THE FUTURE GENERATION WHICH IS OUR OWN GRANDCHILDREN.
ENOUGH OF BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT.........OR AFRAID OF THE POWERS THAT BE......TIME TO SPEAK UP FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IS EVIL.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONSERVATIVE IN OUR VIEWS.....BUT TIMES ARE CHANGING. IS THIS THE WORLD WE OURSELVES WANT FOR OUR SIX (6) GRANDCHILDREN & ONE GREAT GRANDCHILD??
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-news-statement-islamic-state-video
FOX executive explains decision to post video of ISIL propaganda movie of Jordanian pilot
gomoho
02-05-2015, 08:01 AM
Ok, I am probably overly simplifying this....
1. Get as many nations on board (on the same side), against ISIS, a united front.
2. Cut off ALL AID to any country harboring/supporting the ISIS radicals.
3. Start a concerted effort to block ALL INTERNET access to and by the ISIS radicals and any supporters. This includes but not limited to deliberate cyber attacks on an and all Internet facilities providing access or support.
4. Cutoff ALL support for any and all financial institutions that may be providing or suspected of providing money laundering or support of ISIS. In this case, act first, apologize later.
5. Block the purchase or sale of any and all ISIS materials/products (oil, etc.).
6. Put the arms dealers out of business.
Bottom line, cut off all supplies to and from the radicals and their supporters. With any luck, this will weaken them sufficiently that they can be beaten into submission.
I rarely get into these discussions, but recent events require some form of response.
Unfortunately we are lacking any form of LEADERSHIP to make things happen. You have some solid ideas that would certainly go a long way towards eliminating these savages.
Bogie Shooter
02-05-2015, 09:28 AM
I agree. Strange coming from a lifelong pacifist.
However, after many years of seeing no end in sight of this barbarism, plus seeing the still photos (plus the video) of the young pilot at his end , I have no qualms about your suggestion.
FOX NEWS mentioned that Glenn Beck's private t.v. station had posted the still photos (about three or four; not looking at it at the moment).....plus the 20 some minute Hollywood Production movie they filmed of the young pilot in the cage........I used my search engine & I immediately came up with the link yesterday morning.
We watched it.......everyone should see it with their own eyes.
As horrible & inhumane as it is.......truly.......I had no nightmares & am not traumatized today........except with a stronger resolve that someone has to do something drastic & SOON. These people are totally INSANE.
The major networks were wrong NOT to show the public what happened to this brave young Jordanian pilot.
That promise of an "exchange" was a total sham.
Glenn Beck: The World Needs to See the Depravity of the Islamic State (GRAPHIC) | TheBlaze.com (http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/glenn-beck-the-world-needs-to-see-the-depravity-of-the-islamic-state-graphic/)
Glenn Beck: The World needs to see the depravity of the Islamic state
Keep scrolling to BELOW the still photos....it's a "movie" they put out.......
YOU HAVE TO CLICK ON THE ARROW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VIDEO OF HIM IN THE CAGE. DO NOT CLICK ON THE PATRIOTS AD AS THAT IS NOT IT.........IT IS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STILL PHOTOS.......A VIDEO........not the word video below that.
Before his "end" they show photos of burned babies, children......I figured from his bombing mission.....then buildings in rubble, all intersperced with pics of his fighter plane........anyone can see their PROPOGANDA FOR WHAT IT IS.
After his gruesome time in the cage........they show the heavy machinery dumping the cement pieces on top of his cage.
Everyone should see this EVIL EVIL ATROCITY. Jordan was too kind to simply hang the two Alkaeda terrorists.........& we were NUTS to let the GUANTANAMO PRISONERS FREE......
p.s. When I first went to his station, they asked for $1. which I never gave....just kept going to he "movie part" which this is. The "ad" ends quickly or just click the box.
FOX NEWS IS HOW I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS "MOVIE" & HOW TO VIEW IT.
BY THE WAY, TO ANYONE WHO WOULD THINK THAT SOMEONE MIGHT GET "JOY" OUT OF POSTING ANOTHER PERSON'S GRIEF.......THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE AT ALL..........THE ISSUE IS THAT THE WORLD NEEDS TO SEE WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST........AND NOT HAVE OUR HEADS IN THE SAND...........WE ARE NOT TODDLERS, BUT GROWNUPS WHO HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF LIFE.........& ARE CONCERNED FOR THE FUTURE GENERATION WHICH IS OUR OWN GRANDCHILDREN.
ENOUGH OF BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT.........OR AFRAID OF THE POWERS THAT BE......TIME TO SPEAK UP FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IS EVIL.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONSERVATIVE IN OUR VIEWS.....BUT TIMES ARE CHANGING. IS THIS THE WORLD WE OURSELVES WANT FOR OUR SIX (6) GRANDCHILDREN & ONE GREAT GRANDCHILD??
Fox Exec Explains Decision To Post Video Of ISIL Hostage Being Burned Alive (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-news-statement-islamic-state-video)
FOX executive explains decision to post video of ISIL propaganda movie of Jordanian pilot
Ah, that Glen Beck............such an authority on everything!
Taltarzac725
02-05-2015, 09:36 AM
Clerics denounce burning alive of pilot as un-Islamic | Reuters (http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/02/04/mideast-crisis-jordan-clerics-idINKBN0L814Q20150204)
Any decent human-- no matter what religion, sex, orientation, economic status-- would condemn the extreme brutality of this act.
Bucco
02-05-2015, 09:43 AM
Clerics denounce burning alive of pilot as un-Islamic | Reuters (http://in.reuters.com/article/2015/02/04/mideast-crisis-jordan-clerics-idINKBN0L814Q20150204)
Any decent human-- no matter what religion, sex, orientation, economic status-- would condemn the extreme brutality of this act.
There is no doubt about that !!!!
Problem is we have a problem in this world and while it is many miles away, the world is so small, we, not only as a nation, but as a worldwide community need to find a way to fight it.
If those decent human beings you refer to would join in actually defeating a foe that will be difficult to fight then that would be great.
BUT we now learn that UAE who was announced as a partner actually quit the process but nobody told us and in fact we were led to believe they were still a member of the coalition.
We need to find a way.....so much is being allowed now in the world that history shows us ignoring does not solve...and we better recognize this is a very SMALL WORLD with instant death, not built up invasion stuff, but INSTANT death possible. Is the sky falling ? I think not,but ignoring is not the way to go and I hope we are not really being inactive in this fight. Longer we wait, worse it will be and just look back at history to see that.
senior citizen
02-05-2015, 10:35 AM
Ah, that Glen Beck............such an authority on everything!
Not a fan of Glenn Beck. Never said I was.
We were switching back & forth from CNN to FOX NEWS when on Fox News they mentioned that although none of the other major networks such as ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. were showing the gruesome atrocity of burning that young pilot alive............that they had changed their mind & were showing still photo plus they mentioned that Glenn Beck had his own station or channel which was showing the entire movie of the Jordanian pilot's "end".
I immediately found it on my computer........took the twenty some minutes to watch the entire PROPOGANDA VIDEO by ISIS.......& just thought that others who are so inclined should have the same right to see it, if they wish........
The world is dealing with totally INSANE BARBARIANS. Putting our heads in the sand is not a solution. Our youth of today think nothing of traveling the world.......everyone needs to know the facts before venturing forth.
Abby10
02-06-2015, 10:17 AM
I agree. Strange coming from a lifelong pacifist.
However, after many years of seeing no end in sight of this barbarism, plus seeing the still photos (plus the video) of the young pilot at his end , I have no qualms about your suggestion.
FOX NEWS mentioned that Glenn Beck's private t.v. station had posted the still photos (about three or four; not looking at it at the moment).....plus the 20 some minute Hollywood Production movie they filmed of the young pilot in the cage........I used my search engine & I immediately came up with the link yesterday morning.
We watched it.......everyone should see it with their own eyes.
As horrible & inhumane as it is.......truly.......I had no nightmares & am not traumatized today........except with a stronger resolve that someone has to do something drastic & SOON. These people are totally INSANE.
The major networks were wrong NOT to show the public what happened to this brave young Jordanian pilot.
That promise of an "exchange" was a total sham.
Glenn Beck: The World Needs to See the Depravity of the Islamic State (GRAPHIC) | TheBlaze.com (http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/glenn-beck-the-world-needs-to-see-the-depravity-of-the-islamic-state-graphic/)
Glenn Beck: The World needs to see the depravity of the Islamic state
Keep scrolling to BELOW the still photos....it's a "movie" they put out.......
YOU HAVE TO CLICK ON THE ARROW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE VIDEO OF HIM IN THE CAGE. DO NOT CLICK ON THE PATRIOTS AD AS THAT IS NOT IT.........IT IS IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STILL PHOTOS.......A VIDEO........not the word video below that.
Before his "end" they show photos of burned babies, children......I figured from his bombing mission.....then buildings in rubble, all intersperced with pics of his fighter plane........anyone can see their PROPOGANDA FOR WHAT IT IS.
After his gruesome time in the cage........they show the heavy machinery dumping the cement pieces on top of his cage.
Everyone should see this EVIL EVIL ATROCITY. Jordan was too kind to simply hang the two Alkaeda terrorists.........& we were NUTS to let the GUANTANAMO PRISONERS FREE......
p.s. When I first went to his station, they asked for $1. which I never gave....just kept going to he "movie part" which this is. The "ad" ends quickly or just click the box.
FOX NEWS IS HOW I FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS "MOVIE" & HOW TO VIEW IT.
BY THE WAY, TO ANYONE WHO WOULD THINK THAT SOMEONE MIGHT GET "JOY" OUT OF POSTING ANOTHER PERSON'S GRIEF.......THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE AT ALL..........THE ISSUE IS THAT THE WORLD NEEDS TO SEE WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST........AND NOT HAVE OUR HEADS IN THE SAND...........WE ARE NOT TODDLERS, BUT GROWNUPS WHO HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF LIFE.........& ARE CONCERNED FOR THE FUTURE GENERATION WHICH IS OUR OWN GRANDCHILDREN.
ENOUGH OF BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT.........OR AFRAID OF THE POWERS THAT BE......TIME TO SPEAK UP FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IS EVIL.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONSERVATIVE IN OUR VIEWS.....BUT TIMES ARE CHANGING. IS THIS THE WORLD WE OURSELVES WANT FOR OUR SIX (6) GRANDCHILDREN & ONE GREAT GRANDCHILD??
Fox Exec Explains Decision To Post Video Of ISIL Hostage Being Burned Alive (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-news-statement-islamic-state-video)
FOX executive explains decision to post video of ISIL propaganda movie of Jordanian pilot
Thank you, senior, for posting this. I have been avoiding viewing pictures or watching videos of this because sometimes it is hard to face these things, but your post made me do so. And for those who won't watch just because of the source - what a shame. It is time we drop the political stances on everything and come together as a nation to fight this terrible evil. Of course, we first have to all agree that it is evil.......what a world we live in.
Sandtrap328
02-06-2015, 12:15 PM
And why would this be a shock, since President Obama ran on promising to close Guantanamo and was elected twice.
Ipso facto.
Mike W
02-06-2015, 12:22 PM
And why would this be a shock, since President Obama ran on promising to close Guantanamo and was elected twice.
Yes - the American voters elected Obama twice, but not solely on his promises to close the Guantanamo Bar prison.
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