View Full Version : Why can't posters use their own names?
Guest
02-09-2015, 11:23 PM
If this has been previously discussed, I'm sorry! I don't understand why everyone has to post as "guest" instead of using their normal TOTV names. I find the new format very confusing.
Can anyone explain the benefit to me?
Guest
02-09-2015, 11:36 PM
People were getting some pretty vicious PMs in the last political forum. By only using guest, you may think you know who is posting, but it may just leave enough doubt that a PM won't occur.
Personally, I'm with you. This way is very confusing. Maybe if each guest's number showed as well it would help. At least then there would be a clue that someone had posted previously in a thread.
Guest
02-09-2015, 11:37 PM
If this has been previously discussed, I'm sorry! I don't understand why everyone has to post as "guest" instead of using their normal TOTV names. I find the new format very confusing.
Can anyone explain the benefit to me?
The political forum was suspended previously because of the vitriol that spilled over into the regular forum and because of many vicious Private Messages between combatants.
It is our hope that this anonymous format will be prophylactic.
To avoid confusion, please be sure to click on "Quote Post" when you wish to reply to a specific post. This will put your reply below a highlighted version of the post to which you wish to respond. Failure to do so will guarantee a confusing and chaotic thread.
Guest
02-09-2015, 11:47 PM
The new policy of everyone posting as Guest reminds me of Topix, where people use fake names to make evil comments about others. If people are anomoyous, they are more likely to be abusive and insulting.
Guest
02-10-2015, 01:47 AM
The new policy of everyone posting as Guest reminds me of Topix, where people use fake names to make evil comments about others. If people are anomoyous, they are more likely to be abusive and insulting.
The opposite has proven true on this Political Forum. Some posters thrive on confrontation whether they are anonymous or not.
This is a political forum, not a "firing range". Moderators WILL DELETE rude and personal attacks.
MODERATOR
Guest
02-10-2015, 09:01 AM
I am new to the political forum - wasn't around for the old one and would like to see names used rather than guest because in this short time I've learned there is a particular poster that is pretty out there and would appreciate the opportunity to ignore said person's post. Can't do that until I start reading the babble. I will certainly get through this and appreciate this forum, but would appreciate a way to be more selective in what I waste my time on.
Guest
02-10-2015, 09:18 AM
:popcorn: test
Guest
02-10-2015, 10:19 AM
Under the old political format, there was a link to alert the moderators to a personal attack. The moderators spent all their time responding to posters being reported for personal attacks, of which there were many.
IMO the political forum would not be back if the names and personal attack alert had not been removed.
Guest
02-10-2015, 10:46 AM
I fully support the anonymous 'Guest" designation for posters - there is no need to shoot a messenger - just try to aim straight and shoot the message when you disagree with any post.
Guest
02-10-2015, 11:39 AM
Few use their real names anyway.
Guest
02-10-2015, 02:24 PM
Without screen names, I find it almost impossible to stay engaged on a thread here. It's like reading one poster talking to himself in his other personalities having the same name, "Guest".
That is exactly what's been going on with the KOOK who slanders TOTV posters on Topix. He argues with himself under his other personalities' screen names.
This "Guest" format here is a turnoff.
Guest
02-10-2015, 02:33 PM
I think over time you will get the feel of a lot of posters by their message and delivery. Quoting a post is a big help also.
Guest
02-10-2015, 02:50 PM
I think over time you will get the feel of a lot of posters by their message and delivery. Quoting a post is a big help also.
I don't think so. One poster with whom I often agree posts very l-o-n-g posts, and so whenever I see a long post that gets a long-post reply, I exit stage left….can't figure out who's talking.
Guest
02-10-2015, 03:21 PM
If you quote a post you will see there is a number next to the guest. As far as I can tell, we are all assigned a different number. It really would be helpful if this number were shown next to guest. That way, we'd at least have some idea if someone is in fact arguing with themselves or someone is just adding to a previous comment, etc.
Guest
02-10-2015, 03:53 PM
This is just plain silly (and confusing) to have everyone post under the same name.
Reminds me of some of those whacked out progressive daycare centers where everyone is hyper-sensitive to offending the child's developing sense of self. (psycho-babble nonsense!)
First and last post here.
Guest
02-10-2015, 04:11 PM
Don't go, I really enjoy your posts.
Guest
02-10-2015, 04:19 PM
Without screen names, I find it almost impossible to stay engaged on a thread here. It's like reading one poster talking to himself in his other personalities having the same name, "Guest"...
...This "Guest" format here is a turnoff.
Pretty well sums up my feelings.
Guest
02-10-2015, 04:48 PM
If the software and the operating system can handle it I would vote for a separate unser name for use in the political forum only. It could be compiled at the opt in stage of signing on.
No PM capability. I would like to see the edit capability as I often times need it.
But I agree, I find it difficult, not impossible to follow a thread and some sort of feel for who is participating.
Or something like that.
Guest
02-10-2015, 04:49 PM
If the software and the operating system can handle it I would vote for a separate unser name for use in the political forum only. It could be compiled at the opt in stage of signing on.
No PM capability. I would like to see the edit capability as I often times need it.
But I agree, I find it difficult, not impossible to follow a thread and some sort of feel for who is participating.
Or something like that.
This is why I like to be able to edit........and one would keep their regular screen name for the other forums
Guest
02-10-2015, 04:52 PM
Pretty well sums up my feelings.
I can see on Tapatalk that P-B sent this.
Guest
02-10-2015, 07:10 PM
Without screen names, I find it almost impossible to stay engaged on a thread here. It's like reading one poster talking to himself in his other personalities having the same name, "Guest".
That is exactly what's been going on with the KOOK who slanders TOTV posters on Topix. He argues with himself under his other personalities' screen names.
This "Guest" format here is a turnoff.
This is just plain silly (and confusing) to have everyone post under the same name.
Reminds me of some of those whacked out progressive daycare centers where everyone is hyper-sensitive to offending the child's developing sense of self. (psycho-babble nonsense!)
First and last post here.
....
But I agree, I find it difficult, not impossible to follow a thread and some sort of feel for who is participating.
I agree with all three posters above.
Or with the one poster who posted three times!!!
See what I mean??????
Guest
02-11-2015, 03:12 PM
how about if everyone uses a different font?
Guest
02-11-2015, 04:25 PM
People, you are responding to a post, not a person.
If you quote the post to which you respond, how can that be confusing?
Those complaining about the anonymous posting appear to crave confrontation with a specific individual. That is exactly how these things get nasty.
If you cannot let the ideas speak for themselves, the Political Forum will not survive.
MODERATOR
Guest
02-11-2015, 04:38 PM
People, you are responding to a post, not a person.
If you quote the post to which you respond, how can that be confusing?
Those complaining about the anonymous posting appear to crave confrontation with a specific individual. That is exactly how these things get nasty.
If you cannot let the ideas speak for themselves, the Political Forum will not survive.
MODERATOR
If posters cannot 'speak' to the posts rather than the poster - they should not be commenting in this forum!
Guest
02-11-2015, 04:40 PM
People, you are responding to a post, not a person.
If you quote the post to which you respond, how can that be confusing?
Those complaining about the anonymous posting appear to crave confrontation with a specific individual. That is exactly how these things get nasty.
If you cannot let the ideas speak for themselves, the Political Forum will not survive.
MODERATOR
The confusing part is that a poster can reply multiple times to his own post. This is what happens on Topix ... one person having a conversation with himself. But I'm certainly willing to give it a go. Thank you for bringing the Political Forum back.
Guest
02-11-2015, 05:03 PM
The confusing part is that a poster can reply multiple times to his own post. This is what happens on Topix ... one person having a conversation with himself. But I'm certainly willing to give it a go. Thank you for bringing the Political Forum back.
If posters find Topix so objectionable, here's a suggestion, don't go there.
Guest
02-11-2015, 05:59 PM
All guests on this thread are right. Unfortunately a few in the past ended up hurting the majority.
ONE SUGGESTION TO THE MODERATORS IS THAT IF THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT BY USING USERNAMES SOME WILL PM DIRECTLY TO THOSE TEY DISAGREE THEN INSTEAD OF REFERRING ALL AS GUESTS SIMPLY DISENABLE THE PM FEATURE. IF A POSTER SENDS ONE NASTY REPLY DISENABLE THAT POSTER FROM THIS FORUM.
There are members here who have good chemistry and they play well off one another so why spoil that.
Guest
02-11-2015, 06:01 PM
All guests on this thread are right. Unfortunately a few in the past ended up hurting the majority.
ONE SUGGESTION TO THE MODERATORS IS THAT IF THEY ARE CONCERNED THAT BY USING USERNAMES SOME WILL PM DIRECTLY TO THOSE TEY DISAGREE THEN INSTEAD OF REFERRING ALL AS GUESTS SIMPLY DISENABLE THE PM FEATURE. IF A POSTER SENDS ONE NASTY REPLY DISENABLE THAT POSTER FROM THIS FORUM.
There are members here who have good chemistry and they play well off one another so why spoil that.
What I find frustrating is that the only time the political forum appears is when I initially sign on. So if I leave it I have to sign on again to locate it????
Guest
02-11-2015, 06:03 PM
If posters find Topix so objectionable, here's a suggestion, don't go there.
Good point. You do know that 99% of the posters on TOPIX also post here, or at least lurk !!!
Guest
02-11-2015, 06:24 PM
People, you are responding to a post, not a person.
If you quote the post to which you respond, how can that be confusing?
Those complaining about the anonymous posting appear to crave confrontation with a specific individual. That is exactly how these things get nasty.
If you cannot let the ideas speak for themselves, the Political Forum will not survive.
MODERATOR
No, we don't "crave confrontation with a specific individual". In regular conversation on this board or anywhere, we're used to knowing with whom we are speaking, even it the person bears a screen name.
It's impossible to tell whether it's ONE person who agrees/disagrees with us, or ten.
It's nice to know when a consensus is forming or changing as a result of the debate at hand. It's interesting to see if anyone actually comes around to your point of view or can at least find some common ground.
Guest
02-11-2015, 06:29 PM
No, we don't "crave confrontation with a specific individual". In regular conversation on this board or anywhere, we're used to knowing with whom we are speaking, even it the person bears a screen name.
It's impossible to tell whether it's ONE person who agrees/disagrees with us, or ten.
It's nice to know when a consensus is forming or changing as a result of the debate at hand. It's interesting to see if anyone actually comes around to your point of view or can at least find some common ground.
Give it up. The moderator has spoken. The complainers are going to get the political forum shut down after only a week.
Guest
02-11-2015, 07:07 PM
Give it up. The moderator has spoken. The complainers are going to get the political forum shut down after only a week.
Actually I believe the moderator has said this will be watched to see how it goes and if the guest thing isn't working alternatives will be considered.
I'm wondering who is posting and signing as MODERATOR.
Guest
02-11-2015, 07:50 PM
I find the no edit feature more troubling. Not Sure I understand the problem in editing.
Guest
02-11-2015, 08:21 PM
What I find frustrating is that the only time the political forum appears is when I initially sign on. So if I leave it I have to sign on again to locate it????
Put it into your 'bookmarks'/'favorites' - makes it easy to locate. Are you not always signed into TOTV or do you sign in each time you access the site. I remain signed in unless some computer update or cookie monster deletes my password for the site.
Guest
02-11-2015, 08:22 PM
People, you are responding to a post, not a person.
If you quote the post to which you respond, how can that be confusing?
Those complaining about the anonymous posting appear to crave confrontation with a specific individual. That is exactly how these things get nasty.
If you cannot let the ideas speak for themselves, the Political Forum will not survive.
MODERATOR
Actually I believe the moderator has said this will be watched to see how it goes and if the guest thing isn't working alternatives will be considered.
I'm wondering who is posting and signing as MODERATOR.
Don't see anything in the above post that says alternatives will be considered. The alternative is posting on the regular forum which allows names.
Guest
02-11-2015, 09:26 PM
People, you are responding to a post, not a person.
If you quote the post to which you respond, how can that be confusing?
Those complaining about the anonymous posting appear to crave confrontation with a specific individual. That is exactly how these things get nasty.
If you cannot let the ideas speak for themselves, the Political Forum will not survive.
MODERATOR
If your post stands on its own, why are you identifying yourself? Perhaps to avoid confusion?
Guest
02-11-2015, 09:26 PM
If someone want to post and agree with herself that is fine. Heck maybe even a devil's advocate who will post and then disagree with her own post. That would be fun. Really isn't this political forum just to have fun with politics. No one expects their wisdom with change anyone's opinion. Go ahead and point out my idiocies, I won't change my mind. you're no different. So enjoy the back and forth and don't get too nasty
NOT MODERATOR
Guest
02-11-2015, 09:28 PM
If someone want to post and agree with herself that is fine. Heck maybe even a devil's advocate who will post and then disagree with her own post. That would be fun. Really isn't this political forum just to have fun with politics. No one expects their wisdom with change anyone's opinion. Go ahead and point out my idiocies, I won't change my mind. you're no different. So enjoy the back and forth and don't get too nasty
NOT MODERATOR
Open minded, heh ?
Guest
02-12-2015, 06:33 AM
If someone want to post and agree with herself that is fine. Heck maybe even a devil's advocate who will post and then disagree with her own post. That would be fun. Really isn't this political forum just to have fun with politics. No one expects their wisdom with change anyone's opinion. Go ahead and point out my idiocies, I won't change my mind. you're no different. So enjoy the back and forth and don't get too nasty
NOT MODERATOR
This is a great post. I don't think anyone ever changes their point of view due to what is posted regardless of names being displayed. Of course, maybe I wrote that post and are just patting myself on the back. Only the "guest" knows for sure.
Guest
02-12-2015, 09:21 AM
The poster "Guest" is very prolific, though he/she seems extremely confused and conflicted.
Guest
02-12-2015, 09:22 AM
The poster "Guest" is very prolific, though he/she seems extremely confused and conflicted.
No I'm not!
Guest
02-12-2015, 09:23 AM
No I'm not!
Yes you are!
Guest
02-12-2015, 10:04 AM
No, I'm not!!
Guest
02-12-2015, 10:05 AM
No, I'm not!!
Am I arguing with myself now?
Guest
02-12-2015, 10:18 AM
I find the no edit feature more troubling. Not Sure I understand the problem in editing.
If editing were available, and everybody is "Guest", then everybody could edit everybody else's posts. Because everyone is Guest, and all posts are by Guest.
Guest
02-12-2015, 11:21 AM
No, we don't "crave confrontation with a specific individual". In regular conversation on this board or anywhere, we're used to knowing with whom we are speaking, even it the person bears a screen name.
It's impossible to tell whether it's ONE person who agrees/disagrees with us, or ten.
It's nice to know when a consensus is forming or changing as a result of the debate at hand. It's interesting to see if anyone actually comes around to your point of view or can at least find some common ground.
:agree:
Guest
02-12-2015, 11:37 AM
To all of those who want to use names on this forum, please take a few hours and read the old threads from 2012, and before, to see what the political forum was like. I can guarantee you that most of you would be curled up in the fetal position under your desk, begging for mercy, had you been involved in the name-calling that went on.
Guest
02-12-2015, 11:38 AM
If editing were available, and everybody is "Guest", then everybody could edit everybody else's posts. Because everyone is Guest, and all posts are by Guest.
Are you just speculating or are you the moderator? I'm so confused. :confused:
Guest
02-12-2015, 11:45 AM
To all of those who want to use names on this forum, please take a few hours and read the old threads from 2012, and before, to see what the political forum was like. I can guarantee you that most of you would be curled up in the fetal position under your desk, begging for mercy, had you been involved in the name-calling that went on.
Sorry…but that's typical liberal "I need mommy" (government or a moderator in this case) to keep civility and order. I participate in quite a few forums where there's either no moderator or it's limited to basically moving threads to the correct topic group. The most responsible forums are where you have to use your true identity and own your comments and their repercussions (with co-workers, etc…)
Conversely, pull up your big girl panties and grow some thick skin. :rant-rave:
Guest
02-12-2015, 11:57 AM
Sorry…but that's typical liberal "I need mommy" (government or a moderator in this case) to keep civility and order. I participate in quite a few forums where there's either no moderator or it's limited to basically moving threads to the correct topic group. The most responsible forums are where you have to use your true identity and own your comments and their repercussions (with co-workers, etc…)
Conversely, pull up your big girl panties and grow some thick skin. :rant-rave:
Do you mind if I pull up my 'big boy panties'? Have you read the old threads? It's amazing how one side could be so wrong about everything back in 2012, their polls and links, etc. Not one word they said back then came true. Most of those posters left this forum after the political forum got shut down. There's even some speculation that some might have shot themselves after the election.
Guest
02-12-2015, 12:00 PM
Odds are the political forum will be gone by the end of the week.
Guest
02-12-2015, 12:23 PM
[QUOTEConversely, pull up your big girl panties and grow some thick skin. :rant-rave:[/QUOTE]
You're beating that line to death.
Guest
02-12-2015, 12:59 PM
[QUOTEConversely, pull up your big girl panties and grow some thick skin. :rant-rave:
You're beating that line to death.[/QUOTE]
Guest
02-12-2015, 01:12 PM
Hey Chi-Town… what gives with the name?
How come you get to be special? This is not fair! Either we're all "Guest" or we're not. This is a trampling of my civil rights. Can we organize a protest and sit-in? This has got to have a racial component; let's call the Reverend. I thought all the libs were for equality, and now someone is special. Did you intend this hostility? I feel like a second-class poster.
Guest
02-12-2015, 02:10 PM
Hey Chi-Town… what gives with the name?
How come you get to be special? This is not fair! Either we're all "Guest" or we're not. This is a trampling of my civil rights. Can we organize a protest and sit-in? This has got to have a racial component; let's call the Reverend. I thought all the libs were for equality, and now someone is special. Did you intend this hostility? I feel like a second-class poster.
All for equality EXCEPT.......:)
Only if it fits and enables more name calling and labeling ! If I cannot call them a name, I just vote how I am told
Guest
02-12-2015, 02:33 PM
To all of those who want to use names on this forum, please take a few hours and read the old threads from 2012, and before, to see what the political forum was like. I can guarantee you that most of you would be curled up in the fetal position under your desk, begging for mercy, had you been involved in the name-calling that went on.
AND I can attest from personal experience the HATE spewed in PMs !!!! From people who only knew or know my political position and nothing else about me.
Guest
02-12-2015, 04:09 PM
I find guest to be both very intelligent and articulate, and rather poorly informed and unable to express him/herself clearly. He/she seems to take on right wing and left wing positions while sometimes seems positioned clearly in the middle. He/she seems to a very conflicted individual, even resorting to confusing posts such as this. What a dilemma.
Guest
02-12-2015, 04:22 PM
Sorry…but that's typical liberal "I need mommy" (government or a moderator in this case) to keep civility and order. I participate in quite a few forums where there's either no moderator or it's limited to basically moving threads to the correct topic group. The most responsible forums are where you have to use your true identity and own your comments and their repercussions (with co-workers, etc…)
Conversely, pull up your big girl panties and grow some thick skin. :rant-rave:
Hi Guest: Your inflexibility is already showing and that will get this forum shut down.
Admin said they would reopen on a trial basis. Can't you read between the lines. If not it means given a reasonable length of time if posters can demonstrate that they can have discussion in a civil manner we will proceed forward with additional features.
Please I want the opportunity to have cogent and unemotional conversation about what is going on around the world
So guest please control yourself and be patient and understanding because its Admin's call based on your performance and mine
Personal Best Regards:
Guest
02-12-2015, 04:31 PM
Hey Chi-Town… what gives with the name?
How come you get to be special? This is not fair! Either we're all "Guest" or we're not. This is a trampling of my civil rights. Can we organize a protest and sit-in? This has got to have a racial component; let's call the Reverend. I thought all the libs were for equality, and now someone is special. Did you intend this hostility? I feel like a second-class poster.
Stop blathering. I don't consider you a second class poster. With Tapatalk I can sometimes see who's posting for a while and my name also appears for a short time. It makes no difference to me. We're all in this together. BTW, you used the panties line on me one time. Need to update your Don Rickles act.
Guest
02-12-2015, 05:03 PM
Hi Guest: Your inflexibility is already showing and that will get this forum shut down.
Admin said they would reopen on a trial basis. Can't you read between the lines. If not it means given a reasonable length of time if posters can demonstrate that they can have discussion in a civil manner we will proceed forward with additional features.
Please I want the opportunity to have cogent and unemotional conversation about what is going on around the world
So guest please control yourself and be patient and understanding because its Admin's call based on your performance and mine
Personal Best Regards:
Perhaps you don't understand the busine$$ aspect of these various discussion websites (TOTV, etc…) The discussion forums are similar to television programming in that they draw viewers/posters. This traffic is counted and then used to establish advertising rates. TOTV exists as a business to sell ads…period. TOTV is heavy on ads, classifieds, contractors, etc…and quite thin on traffic and discussion, due in my opinion, to their heavy-handed moderation. But hey, it's their site and they can run it into the ground if they want.
Your post sounds as if you're confused who's the benefactor of this discussion traffic. There are thousands of discussion forums out there that are lively and full of intelligent discourse. When you log on here you see what… (2 viewing, etc…) When the traffic count drops too low, the ad revenue no longer supports the cost of maintaining the site. I rarely post here because the discussion is not lively and the moderation strangulating.
Guest
02-12-2015, 05:13 PM
Perhaps you don't understand the busine$$ aspect of these various discussion websites (TOTV, etc…) The discussion forums are similar to television programming in that they draw viewers/posters. This traffic is counted and then used to establish advertising rates. TOTV exists as a business to sell ads…period. TOTV is heavy on ads, classifieds, contractors, etc…and quite thin on traffic and discussion, due in my opinion, to their heavy-handed moderation. But hey, it's their site and they can run it into the ground if they want.
Your post sounds as if you're confused who's the benefactor of this discussion traffic. There are thousands of discussion forums out there that are lively and full of intelligent discourse. When you log on here you see what… (2 viewing, etc…) When the traffic count drops too low, the ad revenue no longer supports the cost of maintaining the site. I rarely post here because the discussion is not lively and the moderation strangulating.
To a degree I am concur.
Seems that unless the post is to demean Fox news or to react to ANY criticism of the President, there is very little discourse. I am discounting this thread which, as you can see is the most viewed and commented on...which should tell you quite a lot.
A POLITICAL discussion is allowed on here, but nobody seems to care to discuss politics, which is healthy and helpful. (the discussion that is, not the inability to do so) Dont ask why it is helpful or issue the usual snarky comments.....most boards like this that are more than a swap meet, folks will exchange thoughts and reading material, but here it DOES seem to be a non lively debate and is very very seldom based on facts and politics. Well, give TOTV a shout out..they are trying..they cannot make people be concerned and read !!!
Guest
02-12-2015, 07:21 PM
Perhaps you don't understand the busine$$ aspect of these various discussion websites (TOTV, etc…) The discussion forums are similar to television programming in that they draw viewers/posters. This traffic is counted and then used to establish advertising rates. TOTV exists as a business to sell ads…period. TOTV is heavy on ads, classifieds, contractors, etc…and quite thin on traffic and discussion, due in my opinion, to their heavy-handed moderation. But hey, it's their site and they can run it into the ground if they want.
Your post sounds as if you're confused who's the benefactor of this discussion traffic. There are thousands of discussion forums out there that are lively and full of intelligent discourse. When you log on here you see what… (2 viewing, etc…) When the traffic count drops too low, the ad revenue no longer supports the cost of maintaining the site. I rarely post here because the discussion is not lively and the moderation strangulating.
This is a community forum with local advertisers. Local advertisers have historically chosen to pull ads from websites that are laden with strife and and hate speech. Since a select few have chosen to ignore the rules and stay non-political, I am guessing the political forum is simply a "dumping ground" for vicious discourse.
It would appear that some members conveniently forget that this is a free forum and it is a Privilege, not a Right to be a member.
Guest
02-12-2015, 10:56 PM
Perhaps you don't understand the busine$$ aspect of these various discussion websites (TOTV, etc…) The discussion forums are similar to television programming in that they draw viewers/posters. This traffic is counted and then used to establish advertising rates. TOTV exists as a business to sell ads…period. TOTV is heavy on ads, classifieds, contractors, etc…and quite thin on traffic and discussion, due in my opinion, to their heavy-handed moderation. But hey, it's their site and they can run it into the ground if they want.
Your post sounds as if you're confused who's the benefactor of this discussion traffic. There are thousands of discussion forums out there that are lively and full of intelligent discourse. When you log on here you see what… (2 viewing, etc…) When the traffic count drops too low, the ad revenue no longer supports the cost of maintaining the site. I rarely post here because the discussion is not lively and the moderation strangulating.
Don't think that because your post is 'Guest' that we aren't able to identify the actual poster.
You are not correct in your statements. Our traffic has been growing at 20% plus annually every year since inception and there isn't a more trafficked website in TheVillages.
We track all our traffic to the site and the political discussion represents a single digit contribution.
The politcal section is here for the enjoyment of the small audience who wish to participate.
If you do not want to post in the political section or on TOTV please let us know and we can remove your user account.
Best Regards,
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