Dream 2016 Ticket

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A truly unbeatable Democratic Presidential- Vice Presidential ticket in 2016 would be Hillary Clintin and Bill DeBlasio.

She is the front-runner by far and he won the NYC Mayor race with 82 percent of the votes.

Union support (except police unions), women, liberals, young people, most minority voters, and you got it sewn up.

Grumpy old men do not rule!

[Guest]

A truly unbeatable Democratic Presidential- Vice Presidential ticket in 2016 would be Hillary Clintin and Bill DeBlasio.

She is the front-runner by far and he won the NYC Mayor race with 82 percent of the votes.

Union support (except police unions), women, liberals, young people, most minority voters, and you got it sewn up.

Grumpy old men do not rule!





A superb national ticket - except, she doesn't need him to win NY. Usually, a VP is selected to help win the state he is from and where the candidate may be weak.

However, seeing as how Hillary is strong everywhere, she may not need any geographic voter assistance from her VP.

I might go with Warner of VA.

[Guest]

A truly unbeatable Democratic Presidential- Vice Presidential ticket in 2016 would be Hillary Clintin and Bill DeBlasio.

She is the front-runner by far and he won the NYC Mayor race with 82 percent of the votes.

Union support (except police unions), women, liberals, young people, most minority voters, and you got it sewn up.

Grumpy old men do not rule!

Bwahahaha! 2 Liberals from NY - guaranteed to lose - big time!

But it would assure the Republicans a 2016 victory! Bring it on! LOL

[Guest]

A truly unbeatable Democratic Presidential- Vice Presidential ticket in 2016 would be Hillary Clintin and Bill DeBlasio.

She is the front-runner by far and he won the NYC Mayor race with 82 percent of the votes.

Union support (except police unions), women, liberals, young people, most minority voters, and you got it sewn up.

Grumpy old men do not rule!

I'm kind of torn. Clearly, what's best for the NATION is a strong REPUBLICAN ticket of low taxes, explosive economic growth, huge increases in employment and a strong national defense.


On the other hand, a DEMOCRAT win will continue the economic strangulation of businesses, high taxes, and flat job/wage growth. African Americans and all minorities will continue to suffer disproportionately high unemployment rates and dismal future prospects. It's quite likely we'll fall back into recession under a tax and choke Democrat administration and that will prompt the Fed to continue its artificial juicing of Wall St. We've all benefitted GREATLY by the terrific returns on our investment portfolios due to the anemic growth, so selfishly I'd like to see the good times continue rolling on Wall St., but I'm torn knowing so many are suffering and will continue to suffer needlessly under Democrat policies.

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A superb national ticket - except, she doesn't need him to win NY. Usually, a VP is selected to help win the state he is from and where the candidate may be weak.

However, seeing as how Hillary is strong everywhere, she may not need any geographic voter assistance from her VP.

I might go with Warner of VA.

Just drive them all a little crazier. Hillary and Warren. I love it!

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And the qualifications of the dream team are what?

I know after the two most recent elections qualifications don't seem to matter to some (too many in fact)......but it would be nice to hear a Hillary Clinton supporter tell the rest of us why she is a worthy candidate.
Certainly not just because she is a democrat. Certainly not just beacuse she is a Clinton. Most certainly not for her job as Secretary of state.

So please enlighten us to why she is the candidate of choice.

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Dear OP:

The combination you select is clearly for name recognition. I will go no further then to say neither is qualified for the position they held or are holding and certainly not to the top spots in the western world

The problem with our political system today is that the most popular and the biggest campaign spenders win. It is however not indicative of the best candidate.

As a consequence the quality of our elected officials continues to diminish and "we the people"are suffering for it. These elected officials stuff their pockets feather their nests and in quid pro quo arrangements work for large corporations when they leave office.

Harry S. Truman refused to trade on his position as president and he could have used the money. Look at presidents today If they didn't come in rich they sure leave rich.

Unfortunately I do not see one candidate in either party who can fulfill the dual role of being honest and sincere as a desire to serve the people and getting elected.

It is disheartening to see voters so naive to believe that if their candidate gets elected s/he is served well. Ask the black population how it is working out for them since Obama came on board?

We reap what we sow

Personal Best Regards

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Once we have the idealized President and Congress the political comments section won't be needed! We will have the perfect politics of a one party political system like our dear friends in China. No opposition, no problems!

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I'm kind of torn. Clearly, what's best for the NATION is a strong REPUBLICAN ticket of low taxes, explosive economic growth, huge increases in employment and a strong national defense.


On the other hand, a DEMOCRAT win will continue the economic strangulation of businesses, high taxes, and flat job/wage growth. African Americans and all minorities will continue to suffer disproportionately high unemployment rates and dismal future prospects. It's quite likely we'll fall back into recession under a tax and choke Democrat administration and that will prompt the Fed to continue its artificial juicing of Wall St. We've all benefitted GREATLY by the terrific returns on our investment portfolios due to the anemic growth, so selfishly I'd like to see the good times continue rolling on Wall St., but I'm torn knowing so many are suffering and will continue to suffer needlessly under Democrat policies.

Excellent post and insightful. :)

With the smartest woman in the universe on top (who was broke for a while and excels at tormenting her cheating husband's many mistresses), and a closet commie as VP, this would be the best means by which to continue if not increase income inequality. The rubes in Flyover will never figure this out so I agree ... Clinton/DeBlasio 2016 ... and while we're at it, let's allow all Mexican citizens anywhere to vote in US elections as well. After all, we stole a big piece of their country and must atone. White guilt can be a crushing burden as we all know.

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Excellent post and insightful. :)

With the smartest woman in the universe on top (who was broke for a while and excels at tormenting her cheating husband's many mistresses), and a closet commie as VP, this would be the best means by which to continue if not increase income inequality. The rubes in Flyover will never figure this out so I agree ... Clinton/DeBlasio 2016 ... and while we're at it, let's allow all Mexican citizens anywhere to vote in US elections as well. After all, we stole a big piece of their country and must atone. White guilt can be a crushing burden as we all know.

So it's doubtful that you will vote for Jeb Bush and his Mexican wife and half-Mexican children to occupy the White House? Just wondering?

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So it's doubtful that you will vote for Jeb Bush and his Mexican wife and half-Mexican children to occupy the White House? Just wondering?

Actually, I would vote for George P Bush ... generally speaking, he's conservative and is also a Naval Intel officer (reserves), as well as being a Rice Univ. graduate all of which I like. His mother, Columba, is a naturalized US citizen fyi, not in any way "illegal" which is what I was referring to.

As far as voting for Jeb ... he's totally corrupt with Wall St money just like Hillary Clinton is. ( Bush Holds $100K Per Ticket Fundraiser - Political Wire : Political Wire (http://politicalwire.com/2015/02/11/bush-holds-100k-per-ticket-fundraiser/) ) so he will never get my vote.

[Guest]

A truly unbeatable Democratic Presidential- Vice Presidential ticket in 2016 would be Hillary Clintin and Bill DeBlasio.

She is the front-runner by far and he won the NYC Mayor race with 82 percent of the votes.

Union support (except police unions), women, liberals, young people, most minority voters, and you got it sewn up.

Grumpy old men do not rule!

Absolutely true!

DeBlasio is loved by unions except police unions as as Clinton. Minorities will vote as a bloc for any liberal, young people will not vote for the establishment old white men, and most women will vote for a woman.

The age 60 and over white men are now the odd men OUT.

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The age 60 and over white men are now the odd men OUT.

Very racist comment ... how shameful

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So it's doubtful that you will vote for Jeb Bush and his Mexican wife and half-Mexican children to occupy the White House? Just wondering?

Of course he wouldn't. Jeb's not a democrat.

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Absolutely true!

DeBlasio is loved by unions except police unions as as Clinton. Minorities will vote as a bloc for any liberal, young people will not vote for the establishment old white men, and most women will vote for a woman.

The age 60 and over white men are now the odd men OUT.

Clinton is now 67. Two more years she'll be 69. Afer 4 years 73. Ya don't think that's old???

Now you have union leaders in the W/H sucking up to DeBlasio, instead of Al Sharpton and his band of merry men. Don't that make ya feel warm and fuzzy ... NOT!!

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I believe Reagen was 69 when first elected. No, that is not too old to be President. He served 2 terms and was a good President.

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Absolutely true!

DeBlasio is loved by unions except police unions as as Clinton. Minorities will vote as a bloc for any liberal, young people will not vote for the establishment old white men, and most women will vote for a woman.

The age 60 and over white men are now the odd men OUT.

You may not like the statement but tell us what you do not think is true.

Oh yes, those above mentioned groups will turn out in high numbers in order to elect such a dream ticket when the GOP runs their typical candidate such as Romney, Palin, or McCain.

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OK so some do not think she is too old!

I am still waiting to hear from her supporters why they think she is qualified.

And I do understand the precedent that has been set by the 2008 & 2012 elections...Qualifications obviously DO NOT matter!

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While the Constitution does not require the Pres and VP to be from different states, it does prohibit the electors in the home state from voting for their own state citizens for both positions. Thus with your idealized ticket of Clinton and the mayor, the electors from NY would have to cast their electoral college votes for a different person for VP even when the Dems win the state. This is why Cheney (AKA Darth) at the last moment changed his residency from Texas to Wyoming in 2000 as had he been a Texan he could not have received that state's electoral college votes.

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I am a bit mystified at the many comments that say that Clinton is not qualified to be president. Is she a US citizen? Is she age 35 or more? Has she resided in the US for at least 14 years? All YES, she is qualified.

She also was a US Senator for 12 years and Secretary of State for 4. Being first lady of a state and the US did likely give her some experience in the operation of government from the executive side as well.

Those previously held positions seem to make her very qualified for POTUS. Certainly as qualified as say someone who
Was governor of a state (Christie, Perry, Jindal, Palin (sort of), Bush, Walker, Kasich) or a US senator for less than a single term and (Cruz, Paul) Or a surgeon who has no experience working in a political environment (Carson). Or the person who still seems interested and did lead in the polls for a while in 2012, Trump. Person with most experience who has expressed some interest in running from the GOP, Graham.

So for the Clinton haters, and there clearly are a lot of you, please explain what qualification she lacks other than you disagree with her politics?

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Clinton is now 67. Two more years she'll be 69. Afer 4 years 73. Ya don't think that's old???

Now you have union leaders in the W/H sucking up to DeBlasio, instead of Al Sharpton and his band of merry men. Don't that make ya feel warm and fuzzy ... NOT!!

Why do RWers use Sucking and Shoving it down our throats so often in their discussions? What imagery are you invoking here, and why?

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OK so some do not think she is too old!

I am still waiting to hear from her supporters why they think she is qualified.

And I do understand the precedent that has been set by the 2008 & 2012 elections...Qualifications obviously DO NOT matter!

I'll give you 2008. Obama was only a U.S Senator for two years (a state senator before that). But not qualified in 2012? Being President for four years definitely puts you in the most highly qualified ranks. Especially those four years of straightening out the mess he was left and getting Healthcare passed. Be thankful for that first term.

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I am a bit mystified at the many comments that say that Clinton is not qualified to be president. Is she a US citizen? Is she age 35 or more? Has she resided in the US for at least 14 years? All YES, she is qualified.

She also was a US Senator for 12 years and Secretary of State for 4. Being first lady of a state and the US did likely give her some experience in the operation of government from the executive side as well.

Those previously held positions seem to make her very qualified for POTUS. Certainly as qualified as say someone who
Was governor of a state (Christie, Perry, Jindal, Palin (sort of), Bush, Walker, Kasich) or a US senator for less than a single term and (Cruz, Paul) Or a surgeon who has no experience working in a political environment (Carson). Or the person who still seems interested and did lead in the polls for a while in 2012, Trump. Person with most experience who has expressed some interest in running from the GOP, Graham.

So for the Clinton haters, and there clearly are a lot of you, please explain what qualification she lacks other than you disagree with her politics?

Don't be naive - You surely know by now that the (self)right(eous)- wingers don't believe any Democrat is qualified, especially those of color or the female persuasion.

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I am a bit mystified at the many comments that say that Clinton is not qualified to be president. Is she a US citizen? Is she age 35 or more? Has she resided in the US for at least 14 years? All YES, she is qualified.

She also was a US Senator for 12 years and Secretary of State for 4. Being first lady of a state and the US did likely give her some experience in the operation of government from the executive side as well.

Those previously held positions seem to make her very qualified for POTUS. Certainly as qualified as say someone who
Was governor of a state (Christie, Perry, Jindal, Palin (sort of), Bush, Walker, Kasich) or a US senator for less than a single term and (Cruz, Paul) Or a surgeon who has no experience working in a political environment (Carson). Or the person who still seems interested and did lead in the polls for a while in 2012, Trump. Person with most experience who has expressed some interest in running from the GOP, Graham.

So for the Clinton haters, and there clearly are a lot of you, please explain what qualification she lacks other than you disagree with her politics?

I think a more appropriate question would be "what has she accomplished" other than holding these offices. I recall she had a run at healthcare reform when she was First Lady and failed miserably. We certainly can't use her time as Secretary of State because the world is a mess since her term. So what has she accomplished. At least a Governor has shown he can successfully run a state and get things done. A CEO has run a corporation and knows how to negotiate. Dr. Carson is just plain smart and level headed and could probably come up with ideas that are beyond most of our capabilities, and hasn't had any scandals come up (yet) and really loves this country.

So I will ask again - what has Hillary accomplished that she can run on?

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I'll give you 2008. Obama was only a U.S Senator for two years (a state senator before that). But not qualified in 2012? Being President for four years definitely puts you in the most highly qualified ranks. Especially those four years of straightening out the mess he was left and getting Healthcare passed. Be thankful for that first term.

Don't be naive - You surely know by now that the (self)right(eous)- wingers don't believe any Democrat is qualified, especially those of color or the female persuasion.

Out in left field (yes PUN intended) prejudice and totally off base comments highlighted above.

Let's see how the discussion would progress if there were a stand out qualified candidate available from either party....and contrary to the nasty sniping above it does not matter what race or gender or religion.

Holding any office does not automatically bestow qualification.

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I think a more appropriate question would be "what has she accomplished" other than holding these offices. I recall she had a run at healthcare reform when she was First Lady and failed miserably. We certainly can't use her time as Secretary of State because the world is a mess since her term. So what has she accomplished. At least a Governor has shown he can successfully run a state and get things done. A CEO has run a corporation and knows how to negotiate. Dr. Carson is just plain smart and level headed and could probably come up with ideas that are beyond most of our capabilities, and hasn't had any scandals come up (yet) and really loves this country.

So I will ask again - what has Hillary accomplished that she can run on?


Your time would be better spent vetting the candidates who might be running for the Republican nomination. Did you know that Gov Scott Walker, one of the favorites, does not have a college degree? Why is this important you might ask? Well, not since the 1800's has anyone been elected president without a college degree, and most of the recent presidents have degrees from Ivy League schools.

Another favorite, Sen Rand Paul has always told people that he holds two bachelor degrees from Baylor. Well, Salon.com is reporting that he doesn't even have one degree from Baylor. If this is true, how did he get into Duke Medical School without having a BS. Could you research this and report back? It could tell us who is qualified and who is not qualified.

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Your time would be better spent vetting the candidates who might be running for the Republican nomination. Did you know that Gov Scott Walker, one of the favorites, does not have a college degree? Why is this important you might ask? Well, not since the 1800's has anyone been elected president without a college degree, and most of the recent presidents have degrees from Ivy League schools.

Another favorite, Sen Rand Paul has always told people that he holds two bachelor degrees from Baylor. Well, Salon.com is reporting that he doesn't even have one degree from Baylor. If this is true, how did he get into Duke Medical School without having a BS. Could you research this and report back? It could tell us who is qualified and who is not qualified.

This thread was begun about a certain team for 2016. Dont you think that out of respect that is what should be talked about mostly.

ON that degree thingie....I recall Mr. Dean, who was one of the first and loudest to proclaim this some kind of issue...anyway, I recall him making a fool of himself during his run at the nomination. Is that what a degree gets you ? No thanks...rather have a mature, statesman type.

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This thread was begun about a certain team for 2016. Dont you think that out of respect that is what should be talked about mostly.

ON that degree thingie....I recall Mr. Dean, who was one of the first and loudest to proclaim this some kind of issue...anyway, I recall him making a fool of himself during his run at the nomination. Is that what a degree gets you ? No thanks...rather have a mature, statesman type.

Governor Walker and Senator Paul could be on somebody's dream team in 2016. Who is that mature, statesman type?

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Governor Walker and Senator Paul could be on somebody's dream team in 2016. Who is that mature, statesman type?

Rick Perry, Chris Christie, Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin, Donald Trump....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

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I am a bit mystified at the many comments that say that Clinton is not qualified to be president. Is she a US citizen? Is she age 35 or more? Has she resided in the US for at least 14 years? All YES, she is qualified.

She also was a US Senator for 12 years and Secretary of State for 4. Being first lady of a state and the US did likely give her some experience in the operation of government from the executive side as well.

Those previously held positions seem to make her very qualified for POTUS. Certainly as qualified as say someone who
Was governor of a state (Christie, Perry, Jindal, Palin (sort of), Bush, Walker, Kasich) or a US senator for less than a single term and (Cruz, Paul) Or a surgeon who has no experience working in a political environment (Carson). Or the person who still seems interested and did lead in the polls for a while in 2012, Trump. Person with most experience who has expressed some interest in running from the GOP, Graham.

So for the Clinton haters, and there clearly are a lot of you, please explain what qualification she lacks other than you disagree with her politics?

Dear guest: Being a US citizen age 35 and residing I the US for the past 14 years makes her eligible not qualified.

She did nothing as the Senator from New York and traveled thousand of miles around the world as secretary of state and her claim to fame was a reset with Russia. How's that working out for us?

I can't speak for other but I hate no one because the issuing of voting for president is business and not personal to me.

The same people that twice elected Obama will rush to vote in Hillary and for the same reasons. If they succeed then we will all continue to suffer the continual decline of America.

so what about the Republicans and I am registered so I do not see one candidate thus far that excites me. so bottom line this country is in deep doo doo because qualified people are not coming forward to serve

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Rick Perry, Chris Christie, Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin, Donald Trump....:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Gov Perry, indicted by a grand jury in Texas; Gov Christie, under federal investigation in NJ; Rick Santorum, lost his last senate race by 18% in PA; former Gov Palin, doing stand-up comedy on SNL tonight on NBC, that leaves us with our nominee Donald Trump.

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Gov Perry, indicted by a grand jury in Texas; Gov Christie, under federal investigation in NJ; Rick Santorum, lost his last senate race by 18% in PA; former Gov Palin, doing stand-up comedy on SNL tonight on NBC, that leaves us with our nominee Donald Trump.

WHO is this shallow to post such bunk. Talk about lack of education !!

The politics of .....not sure what kind of politics this is...but slimy is one word that rolls off my tongue.

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Not sure what this means relative to our voters, but the election of 2016 is about TWO YEARS AWAY.

The world is a mess.....we have serious legislation issues....economy issues and on and on and on.....and our voters choose to rant on about stuff that is fodder for National Enquirer, although event hey would raise their eyebrows at the shallow nature of some.

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Gov Perry, indicted by a grand jury in Texas; Gov Christie, under federal investigation in NJ; Rick Santorum, lost his last senate race by 18% in PA; former Gov Palin, doing stand-up comedy on SNL tonight on NBC, that leaves us with our nominee Donald Trump.

Better than doing unintentional stand-up comedy on the campaign trail.

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Your time would be better spent vetting the candidates who might be running for the Republican nomination. Did you know that Gov Scott Walker, one of the favorites, does not have a college degree? Why is this important you might ask? Well, not since the 1800's has anyone been elected president without a college degree, and most of the recent presidents have degrees from Ivy League schools.

Another favorite, Sen Rand Paul has always told people that he holds two bachelor degrees from Baylor. Well, Salon.com is reporting that he doesn't even have one degree from Baylor. If this is true, how did he get into Duke Medical School without having a BS. Could you research this and report back? It could tell us who is qualified and who is not qualified.

Back in the 60's and 70's some students were accepted into medical school without a bachelor's degree. Not to say that they didn't do undergrad studies - they did, but because they were found to be exceptional students, and as long as they completed the necessary prerequisite courses, they could be admitted without completion of a BS. I'm not sure if any medical school permits that today, but as you can see it puts Rand Paul in a pretty different light when looking at it from this perspective.

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Back in the 60's and 70's some students were accepted into medical school without a bachelor's degree. Not to say that they didn't do undergrad studies - they did, but because they were found to be exceptional students, and as long as they completed the necessary prerequisite courses, they could be admitted without completion of a BS. I'm not sure if any medical school permits that today, but as you can see it puts Rand Paul in a pretty different light when looking at it from this perspective.

Yeah, I am not sure I could support Paul, but this is ludicrious to talk about college degrees.

Is this what politics has come to ? When Dean made his initial comment on MORNING JOE on MSNBC, I thought everbody, Dems and Repubs on the set would choke. There is a certain segment to take all these elections right straight to the name calling, one liners.

IRONY is that these obviously not well educated or well read people are making fun of people who have more going for them in one pocket that these posters could ever hope for.

Again, these nim wits attack a thread with the "bathroom wall" stuff and the OP's entire thread is gone.

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Back in the 60's and 70's some students were accepted into medical school without a bachelor's degree. Not to say that they didn't do undergrad studies - they did, but because they were found to be exceptional students, and as long as they completed the necessary prerequisite courses, they could be admitted without completion of a BS. I'm not sure if any medical school permits that today, but as you can see it puts Rand Paul in a pretty different light when looking at it from this perspective.

Rand Paul caught lying about his college record - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2015/02/13/rand_paul_caught_lying_about_his_college_record/)

Senator Rand Paul said in a speech this past Thursday that he has two bachelor degrees from Baylor, but his office had to walk that back later and say he does not have any degree from Baylor.

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Rand Paul caught lying about his college record - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2015/02/13/rand_paul_caught_lying_about_his_college_record/)

Senator Rand Paul said in a speech this past Thursday that he has two bachelor degrees from Baylor, but his office had to walk that back later and say he does not have any degree from Baylor.

BAD MAN...and another inciteful post from the same poster !!!

People are being beheaded and you are...well, not sure what you are doing...it is a pure mystery...certainly not discussing anything.

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I'm kind of torn. Clearly, what's best for the NATION is a strong REPUBLICAN ticket of low taxes, explosive economic growth, huge increases in employment and a strong national defense.


On the other hand, a DEMOCRAT win will continue the economic strangulation of businesses, high taxes, and flat job/wage growth. African Americans and all minorities will continue to suffer disproportionately high unemployment rates and dismal future prospects. It's quite likely we'll fall back into recession under a tax and choke Democrat administration and that will prompt the Fed to continue its artificial juicing of Wall St. We've all benefitted GREATLY by the terrific returns on our investment portfolios due to the anemic growth, so selfishly I'd like to see the good times continue rolling on Wall St., but I'm torn knowing so many are suffering and will continue to suffer needlessly under Democrat policies.

This is a great post ... and I think some of the Dems on this board are somewhat confused by it because they don't fully get your points :)

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Once we have the idealized President and Congress the political comments section won't be needed! We will have the perfect politics of a one party political system like our dear friends in China. No opposition, no problems!

You may be correct ... I mean, right now, our (uh, not really mine) President is steadily evolving into the Dear Leader

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While the Constitution does not require the Pres and VP to be from different states, it does prohibit the electors in the home state from voting for their own state citizens for both positions. Thus with your idealized ticket of Clinton and the mayor, the electors from NY would have to cast their electoral college votes for a different person for VP even when the Dems win the state. This is why Cheney (AKA Darth) at the last moment changed his residency from Texas to Wyoming in 2000 as had he been a Texan he could not have received that state's electoral college votes.

I did not know about that elector requirement ... insightful and thanks for posting.

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Why do RWers use Sucking and Shoving it down our throats so often in their discussions? What imagery are you invoking here, and why?

Uh, you're making this claim when your side of the spectrum delights in using the disgusting "*********" comment? Give us all a break.

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Don't be naive - You surely know by now that the (self)right(eous)- wingers don't believe any Democrat is qualified, especially those of color or the female persuasion.

You know, it's increasingly amusing to me to watch liberals immediately default to the "racist sexist yadda" charge when they can't think of anything else to say. Your side really needs to come up with something more clever as well as something that's accurate.

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Your time would be better spent vetting the candidates who might be running for the Republican nomination. Did you know that Gov Scott Walker, one of the favorites, does not have a college degree? Why is this important you might ask? Well, not since the 1800's has anyone been elected president without a college degree, and most of the recent presidents have degrees from Ivy League schools.

Well, as those of us who went to college and then grad school, we all know that attending college and GPA correlates 100% to everything needed to succeed in life, right? I'm thinking Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Mark Zimmerman ... oh wait, none of those guys have degrees. Never mind.

The college degree (lack therof) is a red herring. Walker has shown steadfast conservative leadership and actually has executive ability, unlike the Selfie Joke we currently have in the Oval Office.

I'm also reminded of William F. Buckley's famous quote ... which certainly applies in the age of Obama.

I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in... - William F. Buckley, Jr. at BrainyQuote (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williamfb400600.html)

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ON that degree thingie....I recall Mr. Dean, who was one of the first and loudest to proclaim this some kind of issue...anyway, I recall him making a fool of himself during his run at the nomination. Is that what a degree gets you ? No thanks...rather have a mature, statesman type.

Howard Dean's attack, along with the WaPo article, makes it clear that Walker is "the guy" the Left really fears. As well they should .... once we elect him, he will clean house in DC and it will be quite fun to watch.

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Howard Dean's attack, along with the WaPo article, makes it clear that Walker is "the guy" the Left really fears. As well they should .... once we elect him, he will clean house in DC and it will be quite fun to watch.

2016 polls show Clinton leads in key states, GOP field wide open | MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/2016-polls-show-clinton-leads-key-states-gop-field-wide-open?cid=sm_tw_msnbc)

Hilary is shaking in her shoes. She only leads Walker by 11% in Iowa and 7% in New Hampshire.

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2016 polls show Clinton leads in key states, GOP field wide open | MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/2016-polls-show-clinton-leads-key-states-gop-field-wide-open?cid=sm_tw_msnbc)

Hilary is shaking in her shoes. She only leads Walker by 11% in Iowa and 7% in New Hampshire.

Actually, when all is said and done, I don't think Hillary will get the nomination of her party, or she will choose not to run ... ie withdraw. You heard it hear first.

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Actually, when all is said and done, I don't think Hillary will get the nomination of her party, or she will choose not to run ... ie withdraw. You heard it hear first.

THAT is a very distinct possiblity...

"is week, as the Democratic National Committee was preparing to announce that Philadelphia will host the Party’s 2016 convention, Hillary Clinton’s still undeclared Presidential campaign was running into a media squall about money—two of them, actually. First, David Brock, the conservative activist turned liberal activist, resigned from Priorities USA Action, a big money-raising group that is supporting Clinton, and accused the group of taking part in an “orchestrated political hit job” on two other pro-Clinton groups that Brock is involved with. Then, the Guardian revealed that a number of wealthy donors to the Clinton Foundation, a philanthropic organization set up by Bill Clinton, were clients of the Swiss division of H.S.B.C., a big bank that is embroiled in a tax-avoidance scandal.

The upshot of the Brock story was that Hillary’s money guys and gals are squabbling, and that Priorities USA Action, the political-action committee that spent seventy-five million dollars supporting Barack Obama, in 2012, is off to a slow start this year. (According to Politico, it had less than half a million dollars in the bank at the end of 2014.) The Guardian story, which was based on leaked documents from H.S.B.C., identified seven rich donors to the Clinton Foundation who had bank accounts at H.S.B.C.’s Geneva branch. One of them, Richard Caring, a British entrepreneur, “used his tax-free Geneva account to transfer $1m into the New York-based foundation,” the newspaper reported.
“The HSBC records suggest Caring’s $1m donation was paid in return for former president Bill Clinton’s attendance at a lavish costume charity ball organised by Caring in St Petersburg, Russia.”

Hillary Clinton (http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/hillary-clinton-money-issues)

If you read the entire article, there are some serious money issues that she has to explain related to both her and Bill.

The one thing she has going for her is that the field behind her..her backups...are very very thin.

She has a lot of baggage and IF she runs, I think the nomination is hers which means a long time to unveil a lot of things.

Polls two years out, as some children want to point out all day, are worthless. Their is presently no campaign.

And I promise to remember that I heard it here first !!

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Actually, when all is said and done, I don't think Hillary will get the nomination of her party, or she will choose not to run ... ie withdraw. You heard it hear first.





Sounds like wishful thinking ..............

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2016 polls show Clinton leads in key states, GOP field wide open | MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/2016-polls-show-clinton-leads-key-states-gop-field-wide-open?cid=sm_tw_msnbc)

Hilary is shaking in her shoes. She only leads Walker by 11% in Iowa and 7% in New Hampshire.







And she leads Christie by 23 points in NJ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You can cross him off the list

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Well, as those of us who went to college and then grad school, we all know that attending college and GPA correlates 100% to everything needed to succeed in life, right? I'm thinking Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Mark Zimmerman ... oh wait, none of those guys have degrees. Never mind.

The college degree (lack therof) is a red herring. Walker has shown steadfast conservative leadership and actually has executive ability, unlike the Selfie Joke we currently have in the Oval Office.

I'm also reminded of William F. Buckley's famous quote ... which certainly applies in the age of Obama.

I'd rather entrust the government of the United States to the first 400 people listed in... - William F. Buckley, Jr. at BrainyQuote (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/w/williamfb400600.html)







I'm also reminded of William F. Buckley's famous quote ..... which certainly applies after reading some of these TOTV postings.

I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.

William F. Buckley, Jr. at Brainyquotes/authors/w/william_f_buckley_jr

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Speaking of a dream ticket, former Governor Sarah Palin announced on TV before millions last week-end, that she would be running for president in 2016. And she has already picked her running mate. He is none other than Donald Trump. Hurrah! Palin-Trump!!! What a joke this party has turned into.

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Speaking of a dream ticket, former Governor Sarah Palin announced on TV before millions last week-end, that she would be running for president in 2016. And she has already picked her running mate. He is none other than Donald Trump. Hurrah! Palin-Trump!!! What a joke this party has turned into.

Talk about a dream ticket! Palin / Trump would be comedy gold.

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Talk about a dream ticket! Palin / Trump would be comedy gold.

Only second to the Obama/Biden dodge and weave team.:D

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Only second to the Obama/Biden dodge and weave team.:D

Do you mean the team that won two landslide victories, one in 2008 and another in 2012?

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Do you mean the team that won two landslide victories, one in 2008 and another in 2012?
That's piling on. [emoji6]

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Do you mean the team that won two landslide victories, one in 2008 and another in 2012?

Full Definition of LANDSLIDE
1
: the usually rapid downward movement of a mass of rock, earth, or artificial fill on a slope; also : the mass that moves down
2
a : a great majority of votes for one side
b : an overwhelming victory

Yes, there is enough latitude to even consider the use of the term landslide with anuthing over a one vote or one point win!

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Full Definition of LANDSLIDE
1
: the usually rapid downward movement of a mass of rock, earth, or artificial fill on a slope; also : the mass that moves down
2
a : a great majority of votes for one side
b : an overwhelming victory

Yes, there is enough latitude to even consider the use of the term landslide with anuthing over a one vote or one point win!

How about the results of the electoral votes in 2012; Obama 332, Romney 206, with 270 needed to win. McCain did even worse in 2008, only getting 165. Painful, isn't it?

Speaking of close elections, the poster must be thinking of 2000, Bush V Gore.

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This place has once again deteriorated into a "mine is bigger than yours" contest.

The answer to our over spending, our tax problems, our immigration problem, our security problems, the massive killing in the world, the threat of nuclear growing, the race issues, terrorist threat everywhere, ideological politicians, lack of communications, lack of leadership...

IS NOT

Polls, reminders of who won, character assassinations, demeaning of people, covering up lies and thus lying, silly little immature wise cracks, stupid jokes

SO

If the issues do not concern you, continue with the "crap" that will allow you to stay in your little cocoon and stay narrow minded, do not learn anything to either validate what you think or learn what others think.

As a good friend who is "chilling" up north but reads this forum said to me just last night, not strictly about this forum but in general, and I paraphrase....."unfortunately, the lightheaded folks who simply want to demean others instead of facing head on our huge monetary issues, our security issues the the world issues, will not listen until we, the USA, take a "hit""

I think he may be right...waking up idealogues on both sides of the aisle seems to be impossible until we become the victim. Spend our money, even out everyone, open our borders, divide our population for politics, continue to hate people because of their political views will send us down that road.

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Talk about a dream ticket! Palin / Trump would be comedy gold.

Alas, the comedy gold is solidly lodged with Barack "Selfie" Obama and Joe "The Groper" Biden. Pretty tough competition when it comes to making a team a total laughingstock.

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Alas, the comedy gold is solidly lodged with Barack "Selfie" Obama and Joe "The Groper" Biden. Pretty tough competition when it comes to making a team a total laughingstock.

It must be so depressing to keep getting your butts handed to you by these two losers. But keep up the name calling, it shows a certain sense of desperation.

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It must be so depressing to keep getting your butts handed to you by these two losers. But keep up the name calling, it shows a certain sense of desperation.

For many it sounds like winning the elections is what it is about. Much more so than the condition of the country at home and abroad.

And some continue to view an opposing view as name calling. I guess if we don't roll over and go with the flow and follow the piper's tune...we are assigned as name calling....or desparate.

All I can say is be happy in your thoughts and your opinions. In time you may come to appreciate another point of view. Not asking to accept or embrace it. Just for a change.....allow it without the sniping.

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For many it sounds like winning the elections is what it is about. Much more so than the condition of the country at home and abroad.

And some continue to view an opposing view as name calling. I guess if we don't roll over and go with the flow and follow the piper's tune...we are assigned as name calling....or desparate.

All I can say is be happy in your thoughts and your opinions. In time you may come to appreciate another point of view. Not asking to accept or embrace it. Just for a change.....allow it without the sniping.

Amen to this post and THEY then tell people they discuss politics. They do not even know how, or what without being told. It is frustrating at best that these people can vote even.

I would happily listen to and investigate their views but they have none....NADA...NIL...no views, just polls and debase others.

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Alas, the comedy gold is solidly lodged with Barack "Selfie" Obama and Joe "The Groper" Biden. Pretty tough competition when it comes to making a team a total laughingstock.

For many it sounds like winning the elections is what it is about. Much more so than the condition of the country at home and abroad.

And some continue to view an opposing view as name calling. I guess if we don't roll over and go with the flow and follow the piper's tune...we are assigned as name calling....or desparate.

All I can say is be happy in your thoughts and your opinions. In time you may come to appreciate another point of view. Not asking to accept or embrace it. Just for a change.....allow it without the sniping.

And this is not considered name calling? Calling the president Barack 'selfie' Obama and VP Joe 'the groper' Biden?

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And this is not considered name calling? Calling the president Barack 'selfie' Obama and VP Joe 'the groper' Biden?

From my perspective my references to and about sniping and name calling is all about the responses to each other here in this forum.

My issue is the attitude toward those with opposing viewpoints, opinions or positions here on TOTV.

The quotes above are excellent examples of changing the subject!

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I have logged onto this forum for a couple of weeks and I live in the Caribbean nation of Curacao.

We have fully paid health insurance, very low unemployment, basically no crime, and government paid education through college.

I pity your viewpoints of your "good old days". They sound terrible. Get progressive like we are down here! Your regressive viewpoints are likened to the likes of Joe McCarthy.

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It must be so depressing to keep getting your butts handed to you by these two losers. But keep up the name calling, it shows a certain sense of desperation.

Well, when you characterize Obama and Biden as losers I have to agree with you.

We lost two Prez elections but the untold story is how Obama's leftwing policies has been steadily destroying the Democrat party at the state and local level, and most recently the US Senate. President Walked in 2016 will continue the momentum, but I do fear for liberal sanity when that happens.

If there's desperation, you're looking in the wrong place :)

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i have logged onto this forum for a couple of weeks and i live in the caribbean nation of curacao.

We have fully paid health insurance, very low unemployment, basically no crime, and government paid education through college.

I pity your viewpoints of your "good old days". They sound terrible. Get progressive like we are down here! Your regressive viewpoints are likened to the likes of joe mccarthy.

bait!

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I have logged onto this forum for a couple of weeks and I live in the Caribbean nation of Curacao.

We have fully paid health insurance, very low unemployment, basically no crime, and government paid education through college.

I pity your viewpoints of your "good old days". They sound terrible. Get progressive like we are down here! Your regressive viewpoints are likened to the likes of Joe McCarthy.

Interesting ... Curacao is 46yh or 27th in GDP per capita depending on how you measure it. I also see that prostitution is a legalized industry and generates a lot of revenue. Maybe that's the real secret of your Progressive Paradise?

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If Hillary gets nominated we can expect her to spend an immense amount of her valuable time testifying before the Benghazi panel.

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If Hillary gets nominated we can expect her to spend an immense amount of her valuable time testifying before the Benghazi panel.

Her political war cry will be:

WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

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And this is not considered name calling? Calling the president Barack 'selfie' Obama and VP Joe 'the groper' Biden?

Hmmm.... wonder how any fair minded person could have possibly come up with such unfair and non-descriptive nicknames?

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A true 2016 Dream Ticket would be Ted Cruz for President and Ram Paul for VP. With cruz's spirit and Paul's intelligence, it would be a true winning ticket for the GOP!

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Dream Ticket

How about Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren

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And this is not considered name calling? Calling the president Barack 'selfie' Obama and VP Joe 'the groper' Biden?

My goodness we're sensitive. The vice-president of the USA inappropriately feeling up the secdef's wife - if not "the groper", what would you call that behavior?

How about "the groper's" 4 Pinnochios for his Somali cab buddies comment? Joe claims there's a large and obvious Somali community in Delaware (fact check says 15 in the entire state!) Then Joe claims he's buddies with the many Somali cab drivers…and says he NOT making it up. Fact check says none of the 15 are cab drivers! Oh what a surprise. Old foot-in-mouth groper was telling another fib. :1rotfl:

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A true 2016 Dream Ticket would be Ted Cruz for President and Ram Paul for VP. With cruz's spirit and Paul's intelligence, it would be a true winning ticket for the GOP!

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: How to assure the Dems win again^^^^

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How about a ticket of John Kasich for Prez and Marco Rubio for VP?
You get a successful Governor and a charismatic Senator; both from large states necessary to win the election.

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Dear Posters:

Here's a thought instead of listing the names of a dream team suppose we start with the characteristics, bona fides, issues of concern that we desire be addressed and then match the aforementioned with a list of qualified candidates.

Personal Best Regards:

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Dear Posters:

Here's a thought instead of listing the names of a dream team suppose we start with the characteristics, bona fides, issues of concern that we desire be addressed and then match the aforementioned with a list of qualified candidates.

Personal Best Regards:

That unfortunately is not the way things are done today.
Proof?
2008 election results.
2012 election results.

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How about a ticket of John Kasich for Prez and Marco Rubio for VP?
You get a successful Governor and a charismatic Senator; both from large states necessary to win the election.

I like that very much.

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How about a ticket of John Kasich for Prez and Marco Rubio for VP?
You get a successful Governor and a charismatic Senator; both from large states necessary to win the election.

Way more viable than Cruz/Paul.