Why Hillary Clinton is Clearly Qualfied to be President

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All of it. I current donate all of my Social Security to charity. I would continue to do that amount even if I did not receive Social Security.

So, how much of your Social Security are YOU willing to give up?

First let me say that the means testing and income redistribution was your proposal not mine. With that said, it is unlikely that I will ever receive any Social Security benefits. I sold a multi-million dollar business (sorry, Obama but I did build it) a few years ago and will not be eligible for full benefits for nearly 20 years. With means testing as you propose, I will no doubt forfeit all of it. So, to answer your question all of it.

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Hillary “Fat Cat” Clinton is a source of continuing entertainment.

Her willingness to pander to any group, and say ANYTHING to get elected knows no boundaries. The most recent evidence of this is her pledge to “topple the top 1%” !! Unreal!!

Hillary Clinton Calls For 'Toppling' The 1 Percent (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/21/hillary-clinton-calls-for_0_n_7108026.html)

First of all, she’s now worth $150 million … so she’s in the top one tenth of the “one percent”. Words are beginning to fail me regarding her hypocrisy.

Second, she’s never had a real job … her wealth has come solely from her and Bill’s political careers, and most recently, in effect selling influence for future access.

Third, all of her buddies and friends are the top 1% so I doubt she will screw them (although who knows?)

Fourth, there’s no doubt there is a huge pool of resentful liberals with untapped sources of inner rage to whom this patently transparent appeal will resonate.

What a total joke this woman has become. That’s not to say the large number of dumbasses in this country won’t elect her, just as they did with Obama, but her “fakery” is apparently unlimited.

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Thanks for being honest ... and spoken like the true Socialist you are. You guys love to "force" people to do things as a general rule.

Socialist or Progressive? I have no problem with being called either one.

As far as forcing people to continue paying into Social Security and Medicare - just consider it a tax. We are "forced" into paying a school tax even though we have no school kids anymore, aren't we?

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Interesting news developing,,,,,

"...one of the biggest benefactors to the Clinton Foundation has been trading with Iran and may be in breach of US sanctions imposed on the country."

No big deal, right ?

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/24/hillary-clinton-runs-white-house-and-row-over-ukrainian-benefactors-trade-322253.html

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So much chatter on here about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. How many people actually know the purpose of the Clinton Foundation? I suggest you actually research the topic BEFORE writing your pathetic posts. You will find it is a charitable foundation that has helped milliions of people around the world. Of course, to most of the right wing nuts - and gang of 6 - helping people is not what they are about.

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Don't even think about means testing for anyone within 20 years of full retirement age. People makes assumptions when they plan for retirement and it is just wrong to change the rules half way through the game. I don't care how much money you have, if you are within 20 years of full retirement age, hand off. Full disclosure: SS does need reforms that should be phased in over time. I would, however, immediately remove the maximum SS tax that can be paid in a year. This never made sense to me. And yes, it would impact me.


[QUOTE=Guest;1049531]Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm Several posters have said Ruibo Cruz, et al will reduce social security but Clinton said she is going to protect social security.
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No, it is NOT the posters who have said that some of the Republican candidates will reduce Social Security retirement benefits. It has been said by THE Republican candidates themselves.

Personally, I am in favor of means testing for Social Security retirement benefits. If a retired person has enough savings and investments, they should not get the full amount of retirement and have it based on a sliding scale from a small reduction to full reduction.

Yes, everyone would still be forced to pay into SS and Medicare.

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So much chatter on here about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. How many people actually know the purpose of the Clinton Foundation? I suggest you actually research the topic BEFORE writing your pathetic posts. You will find it is a charitable foundation that has helped milliions of people around the world. Of course, to most of the right wing nuts - and gang of 6 - helping people is not what they are about.

Talk about pathetic! You are completely oblivious to the fact that the Clintons have gotten incredibly wealthy ... net worth $150M and climbing, while engaging in "charity." WTF???????

They combine a means to "do good" while fleecing and often quasi-extorting supporters, utilize their prior government service and get RICH. Yet morons and credulous people like you fall for it constantly. They count upon having enough stupid people such that they can play on the liberal heartstings and know they will get no flack. ... and you definitely prove them correct in their assessment.

Question: if Mitt Romney or one of the Bush's got rich doing this, would you not even see a hint of scandal? Of course you would, and so would anyone. Yet, because of the Clinton name, you instantly transform into the 3 monkeys ... hear no evil, see no evil etc

What makes your situation so doubly pathetic is you are apparently too dense to realize you're being sold a bill of goods while the Clintons are cashing checks. God help us.

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Socialist or Progressive? I have no problem with being called either one.

As far as forcing people to continue paying into Social Security and Medicare - just consider it a tax. We are "forced" into paying a school tax even though we have no school kids anymore, aren't we?

Ok, Mr. Socialist, your honesty is refreshing even if your politics are not.

Apples and oranges ...school taxes are a social good from which we all benefit ... ie presumably an educated populace but sometimes I wonder when I look at the PC crap in schools these days.

The original deal with social security was you pay in, and you get something back. My point about "forcing" things remains accurate ... socialists think nothing of forcing people to do things because after all, socialists are enlightened and know best ...much better in fact than the common people who work for a living.

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For Clintons, speech income shows how their wealth is intertwined with charity - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-clintons-speech-income-shows-how-their-wealth-is-intertwined-with-charity/2015/04/22/12709ec0-dc8d-11e4-a500-1c5bb1d8ff6a_story.html)

There is absolutely nothing wrong here, and would pass any smell test that anyone could possibly envision.

I mean, who could object to what the Clintons do on ethical grounds? :)

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It is obvious by the nature of some of the posts here about Clinton....it does not matter what she did or did not do, right or wrong none of this matters. She is a democrat and that is good enough.

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So much chatter on here about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. How many people actually know the purpose of the Clinton Foundation? I suggest you actually research the topic BEFORE writing your pathetic posts. You will find it is a charitable foundation that has helped milliions of people around the world. Of course, to most of the right wing nuts - and gang of 6 - helping people is not what they are about.

EVERYONE IS AWARE IT IS A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION !

There are many of such organizations throughout the world.

Problem is where you get the money from.....no matter your works, you cannot break the law to fund it.

Check out today's New York Times and read HER involvement AND the State Department in making some Russians rich with uranium in a deal followed by large contributions to the foundation. This is the NEW YORK TIMES, not some right wing conspiracy as she always calls it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

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Here's some more anti-Clinton Crime Family propaganda from a right wing rag that's obviously out to get them.

The Disastrous Clinton Post-Presidency -- NYMag (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/04/disastrous-clinton-post-presidency.html)

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Here's some more anti-Clinton Crime Family propaganda from a right wing rag that's obviously out to get them.

The Disastrous Clinton Post-Presidency -- NYMag (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2015/04/disastrous-clinton-post-presidency.html)

Is it the belief of the Clinton supporters that she has done no wrong?
That her agenda past and present is sqeaky clean?
In a court of law one's life can hang in the balance based on reasonable doubt.
Is there no doubt about Clinton's transgressions?

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An unexpected endorsement:

https://youtu.be/LrvV99PwVTg

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I believe the most disconcerting issue about Hillary Clinton is that her candidacy will implode too prematurely

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WOW!

Some people are so creative with their imagination. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Other than an ever-increasing body count, Hillary's resume is quite thin:

THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT (http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html)

That silly piece of tripe was discredited by snopes long ago. Try to keep up.

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I think the situation with Chelsea is an excellent reason to tax inherited wealth ... let's give exemptions for family farms and small business, but for offspring of politicians, how about a zero exemption? God bless America.

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Hillary, in an act of incredible political bravery, has spoken out forcefully against sexual assault.

Blog: Hillary condemns sexual assault (with a straight face) (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/04/hillary_condemns_sexual_assault_with_a_straight_fa ce.html)

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2015/04/24/clinton-criticizes-scourge-sexual-assault

Hillary said when women of any age face sexual assault, then no woman (except for Paula Jones, Juanita Brodderick and a bunch of others who don't count) is secure.

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I wonder if the Clinton supporters know how silly they look defending this dishonest duo. Even some of the main street media have given up trying to defend this duo and the manner in which operate. Its not that they are clever at hiding their dishonesty its that supporters are too heavily and emotionally invested . Let go they are greedy immoral and self-centered people


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Here's an update on Hillary and items pertaining to the Clinton Crime Family Foundation as well

Hillary Clinton's Machine Sputters | RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2015/04/28/hillary_clinton039s_machine_sputters_355735.html)

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The Clinton Crime Family Foundation "forgot" to report about 1,100 foreign donations.

Hey, no big deal because it's a charity right?

So anyone who is offended by the Clintons selling and peddling influence have to remember, this is honest graft and thus ok. Plus, they are liberals and therefore immune to criticism as long as they tell us they have good intentions. Their credulous lemmings will no doubt continue to swallow that hook, line and sinker.

Clinton Foundation Failed to Disclose 1,100 Foreign Donations - Bloomberg Politics (http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-04-29/clinton-foundation-failed-to-disclose-1-100-foreign-donations)

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And so far she has been running for less than a month.
Plenty of time for her to be knocked off her perch.

What would be refreshing is foe even the Clinton supporters to at least be thinking they better be looking for an alternate candidate to back.

She had less controversy than currently experiencing and she was knocked from her inevitable candidate perch....by an unknown, unqualified candidate who was also surrounded in controversy!

She will not survive. Her personna will not be able to handle the steep climb she has ahead. And this will continue right up until she is dethroned by her own party...AGAIN.

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She's gonna win by a landslide. You right wingers are so afraid of her you started your lies 6 months before she even announced her running.. Wow, a woman president, a black woman attorney general, and a black president. Yall are gonna need new batteries for your pacemakers if this keeps up. Lol

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And so far she has been running for less than a month.
Plenty of time for her to be knocked off her perch.

What would be refreshing is foe even the Clinton supporters to at least be thinking they better be looking for an alternate candidate to back.

She had less controversy than currently experiencing and she was knocked from her inevitable candidate perch....by an unknown, unqualified candidate who was also surrounded in controversy!

She will not survive. Her personna will not be able to handle the steep climb she has ahead. And this will continue right up until she is dethroned by her own party...AGAIN.


Senator Bernie Sanders is announcing his candidacy for president tomorrow, Thursday. This should really give Hillary Clinton pause.

It's unclear if Sanders will run as a socialist (which he is) or an independent (which he is) or a democrat (which is who he aligns himself with in the senate).

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She's gonna win by a landslide. You right wingers are so afraid of her you started your lies 6 months before she even announced her running.. Wow, a woman president, a black woman attorney general, and a black president. Yall are gonna need new batteries for your pacemakers if this keeps up. Lol


These are exciting times we are living in. I only hope I live long enough to finally see a woman elected president of the United States.

Women of America Unite. It is time we move this country forward.

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OMG here comes Sarah

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She's gonna win by a landslide. You right wingers are so afraid of her you started your lies 6 months before she even announced her running.. Wow, a woman president, a black woman attorney general, and a black president. Yall are gonna need new batteries for your pacemakers if this keeps up. Lol

Sorry to burst your bubble, but she's not even going to get the Dem nomination. Unfortunately, the Dems will come to their senses long before then. Even today, most Democrats still don't like having a sleazy, self-serving influence peddler for their Presidential candidate. That's a start ...

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These are exciting times we are living in. I only hope I live long enough to finally see a woman elected president of the United States.

Women of America Unite. It is time we move this country forward.

That does not mean neccessarily, then, that you are dedicated to Clinton. Most assuredly if there were a better woman candidate for the democrats that would be better.

And to be sure we understand fully where your commitment is, if the democratic party winds up with a male candidate and there is a republican female, you will vote for her, right?

How else could it be given your position in your post. If you are truly commited and not just singing from the the female democrat talking points.

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These are exciting times we are living in. I only hope I live long enough to finally see a woman elected president of the United States.

Women of America Unite. It is time we move this country forward.

First of all, it is truly mindless to vote for anyone simply because of their gender.

Second, it's always amused me how liberals seem to love mindless slogans ... "Women of America unite!" ... give us a break :)

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This is starting to become too good to be true from an entertainment perspective ....

Hillary has just pinpointed the race problem as having to do with inequality and lack of trust.

First of all, this drivel is being spouted by a woman who, with her husband's help, went from dead broke to $200M by running a so-called charity. So much for inequality.

Second, when someone says we need to restore "trust" in the system, the Clintons are not the first people rational citizens think of!!

Un-f***ing-believeable!!! :)

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280 posts on the same thread! Amazing!

Does anyone think that a single mind was changed (either way) of their viewpoint of Mrs. Clinton?

The reactionary right believe she is Satan and the radical left think she is annointed to be President.

Mrs. Clinton is an excellent politician. No one can say that is not true. It will be interesting to see what plays out.

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This is starting to become too good to be true from an entertainment perspective ....

Hillary has just pinpointed the race problem as having to do with inequality and lack of trust.

First of all, this drivel is being spouted by a woman who, with her husband's help, went from dead broke to $200M by running a so-called charity. So much for inequality.

Second, when someone says we need to restore "trust" in the system, the Clintons are not the first people rational citizens think of!!

Un-f***ing-believeable!!! :)


After eight years with Hillary Clinton at the helm, and Bill Clinton pulling the strings from the living quarters, you will be pining for the good old carefree days of Barack Obama.

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As each day goes by, more information comes out about the Clinton Foundation. Investigators have now put the percentage of donations to charities at a very low number. Follow the Clinton Foundation in the news and you will get a feel for Clinton's true character, and it is not a pretty picture. It is too bad that most of the country can't see beyond party lines and vote for unqualified and character-challenged candidates. Why anyone would consider voting for someone who believes that they are an idiot is beyond me.

This is starting to become too good to be true from an entertainment perspective ....

Hillary has just pinpointed the race problem as having to do with inequality and lack of trust.

First of all, this drivel is being spouted by a woman who, with her husband's help, went from dead broke to $200M by running a so-called charity. So much for inequality.

Second, when someone says we need to restore "trust" in the system, the Clintons are not the first people rational citizens think of!!

Un-f***ing-believeable!!! :)

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Why anyone would consider voting for someone who believes that they are an idiot is beyond me.

After years of banging my head against a wall in frustration trying to understand liberals and why they're so scared to provide for themselves, why they fight to confiscate the wealth of their successful neighbors, why they vote for criminals. low-lifes and completely unqualified candidates, I finally came to the realization they're mentally ill. Liberalism is a mental illness! :ohdear:

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After eight years with Hillary Clinton at the helm, and Bill Clinton pulling the strings from the living quarters, you will be pining for the good old carefree days of Barack Obama.

I think the author of this article had some of the Clinton lovers on PF in mind when he wrote it ...

Clinton Is Playing Her Fans for Fools | RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/04/29/clinton_is_playing_her_fans_for_fools_126431.html)

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First of all, it is truly mindless to vote for anyone simply because of their gender.

Second, it's always amused me how liberals seem to love mindless slogans ... "Women of America unite!" ... give us a break :)

Guess your right, it's a lot like that " we the people" your tea party extremists throw out there.. Sure am glad there are more women than tea party nut jobs!

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It seems that the game plan for left wingers is to call people names. Don't you get it: it reflects on you, and in not a good way.

Guess your right, it's a lot like that " we the people" your tea party extremists throw out there.. Sure am glad there are more women than tea party nut jobs!

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Guess your right, it's a lot like that " we the people" your tea party extremists throw out there.. Sure am glad there are more women than tea party nut jobs!

Snarl, spit and call names ... plus you missed the point, as usual.

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For those that feel strongly against Hillary Clinton, here's a suggestion: Don't vote for her. In the meantime, Clinton is busy opening up headquarters in all fifty states. She is getting ready to run the table.

Hopefully, the GOP will find a candidate to challenge her, or not.

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For those that feel strongly against Hillary Clinton, here's a suggestion: Don't vote for her. In the meantime, Clinton is busy opening up headquarters in all fifty states. She is getting ready to run the table.

Hopefully, the GOP will find a candidate to challenge her, or not.

You make an excellent suggestion.

Regarding her running the table, I have to agree with you. The smart money would bet on Hillary, and heavily.

In fact, it's an obvious bet ... one doesn't' even have to think about it betting on Hillary. Like, for example, one would have bet heavily on the Persians vs the Greeks in the 5th century BC, or on the British against the Americans in 1776.

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What was the bet for the 2008 election?
Somehow that done deal never gets addressed.
You can't mean the USA was more ready for a black than a woman. An unknown from the back of the pack ran her off the table.
Easy then. Easier now!

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What was the bet for the 2008 election?
Somehow that done deal never gets addressed.
You can't mean the USA was more ready for a black than a woman. An unknown from the back of the pack ran her off the table.
Easy then. Easier now!

Obama vs. Clinton: Two Different Polls (http://www.gallup.com/poll/104545/obama-vs-clinton.aspx)


As far back as shortly after Barack Obama announced his candidacy, he was leading Hillary Clinton in the polls by as little as 47-45 to as much as 51-39.
This was a full 11 months before the first votes were counted in the Iowa caucus, where he came in first, with John Edwards second, and Clinton third.

After Obama won that first contest, he could no longer be considered an "unknown from the back of the pack" or a dark horse as some affectionately like to call him.

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Amazing that the statistics show the posts on this forum are basically from 8 different people.

Darwin was right - the herd needs thinning.

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Why Do So Many People Hate the Sound of Hillary Clinton's Voice? | The New Republic (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121643/why-do-so-many-people-hate-sound-hillary-clintons-voice)

Hillary's voice was mentioned earlier .... this article is interesting and talks about a number of political figures' voices

"You know Hillary Clinton’s voice, right? I mean, you know it. It’s just so loud and annoying. Or maybe it's like a nagging wife. Or inauthentic—that phony Southern accent! Those flat Midwestern vowels! Whatever it is, her voice is burned into your brain."

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Why Do So Many People Hate the Sound of Hillary Clinton's Voice? | The New Republic (http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121643/why-do-so-many-people-hate-sound-hillary-clintons-voice)

Hillary's voice was mentioned earlier .... this article is interesting and talks about a number of political figures' voices

"You know Hillary Clinton’s voice, right? I mean, you know it. It’s just so loud and annoying. Or maybe it's like a nagging wife. Or inauthentic—that phony Southern accent! Those flat Midwestern vowels! Whatever it is, her voice is burned into your brain."

Whole lot better than the New York or Boston accents that you hear screeching in The Villages just about everywhere you go.

I have found out that a relationship works out better with a sock stuffed in her mouth. I told her it was sexy and she is dumb enough to believe it.

As long as it keeps her happy and she keeps paying for me when we go out, it works for me.

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Whole lot better than the New York or Boston accents that you hear screeching in The Villages just about everywhere you go.

I have found out that a relationship works out better with a sock stuffed in her mouth. I told her it was sexy and she is dumb enough to believe it.

As long as it keeps her happy and she keeps paying for me when we go out, it works for me.

I have to admit, your response caused me to laugh out loud and almost spill my wine :)

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Whole lot better than the New York or Boston accents that you hear screeching in The Villages just about everywhere you go.

I have found out that a relationship works out better with a sock stuffed in her mouth. I told her it was sexy and she is dumb enough to believe it.

As long as it keeps her happy and she keeps paying for me when we go out, it works for me.

I hear you, bro. You definitely got a handle on the situation. Nothing worse than the Queens NY "Fran Drescher" accent. Guess I have to make a stop at Market of Marion for a supply of tube socks!

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Wal-Mart is experiencing an unprecedented run on the sale of tube socks today!

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Amazing that the statistics show the posts on this forum are basically from 8 different people.

Darwin was right - the herd needs thinning.

How about sharing the source of and what the statisitics are?

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How about sharing the source of and what the statisitics are?

I am not doing your research for you. Sorry.

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I am not doing your research for you. Sorry.

Not what I asked.
The answer is the expected usual.
Forget it.

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Wal-Mart is experiencing an unprecedented run on the sale of tube socks today!

I am VERY upset. Your tube sock idea sounded pretty cool so I thought I'd give it a try as well with my special lady. But, there were no socks to be found!!!

Can I borrow a (clean) pair?

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Is Hillary Clinton honest enough to be president? That's the subject of this WaPo article. (the answer is NO btw)

For Hillary Clinton, a trust deficit to surmount - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/for-clinton-a-trust-deficit-to-surmount/2015/05/03/fbd201ba-f19d-11e4-b2f3-af5479e6bbdd_story.html)

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I am VERY upset. Your tube sock idea sounded pretty cool so I thought I'd give it a try as well with my special lady. But, there were no socks to be found!!!

Can I borrow a (clean) pair?


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Despite Sustaining Hits, Hillary Clinton Remains 'Formidable' in 2016 NBC/WSJ Poll - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/despite-sustaining-hits-hillary-clinton-remains-formidable-2016-nbc-wsj-n353386)


Ha - the needle never moves. Despite everything that's being thrown at her, Hillary Clinton still leads all GOP candidates by a minimum of six points. This from a new NBC poll just released today.

And the president's approval rating is at a two year high of 48%.

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Of course! And an airplane headed for a mountain is still considered flying.

:1rotfl:

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Of course! And an airplane headed for a mountain is still considered flying.

:1rotfl:


This from the same people that promised Mitt Romney would win in a landslide, and before that thought Sarah Palin was capable of being president. Pardon us if we don't trust your expert opinion.

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This from the same people that promised Mitt Romney would win in a landslide, and before that thought Sarah Palin was capable of being president. Pardon us if we don't trust your expert opinion.

:blahblahblah:

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:mornincoffee:

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Despite Sustaining Hits, Hillary Clinton Remains 'Formidable' in 2016 NBC/WSJ Poll - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/despite-sustaining-hits-hillary-clinton-remains-formidable-2016-nbc-wsj-n353386)


Ha - the needle never moves. Despite everything that's being thrown at her, Hillary Clinton still leads all GOP candidates by a minimum of six points. This from a new NBC poll just released today.

And the president's approval rating is at a two year high of 48%.

The needle does in fact move:
Hillary Clinton Takes Hit in WSJ Poll, but Holds Edge Over GOP Rivals - WSJ (http://www.wsj.com/articles/clintons-negatives-rise-in-wsj-poll-but-democrats-stay-the-course-1430778624)

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Bill Clinton says there's not a "shred of evidence" (how ironic given the shredding of an email server) that show Hillary did anything wrong. Plus, he's not the greatest spokesman for the Clinton Crime Family Foundation as it turns out.

The Clintons (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-clintons-worst-defender-in-chief/2015/05/05/09ff9ba2-f343-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html)

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Bill Clinton says there's not a "shred of evidence" (how ironic given the shredding of an email server) that show Hillary did anything wrong. Plus, he's not the greatest spokesman for the Clinton Crime Family Foundation as it turns out.

The Clintons (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-clintons-worst-defender-in-chief/2015/05/05/09ff9ba2-f343-11e4-84a6-6d7c67c50db0_story.html)

He does not say she or he did not do anything wrong. They are hiding behind the law by stating there is not a shred of evidence.

You know it is not illegal unless you get caught.

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The demographics have swung to the point where Clinton will probably be elected. Most people really don't care or they vote a straight party line without understanding the issues. The fact that she is fundamentally dishonest and appears to have contempt for the average American really doesn't resonate with most people. I recommend hunkering down in the bubble because the future doesn't look very bright.

He does not say she or he did not do anything wrong. They are hiding behind the law by stating there is not a shred of evidence.

You know it is not illegal unless you get caught.

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The demographics have swung to the point where Clinton will probably be elected. Most people really don't care or they vote a straight party line without understanding the issues. The fact that she is fundamentally dishonest and appears to have contempt for the average American really doesn't resonate with most people. I recommend hunkering down in the bubble because the future doesn't look very bright.

I think your analysis is pretty good about the demographics swinging. The Dem strategy is twofold

1. keep blacks "on the liberal planation" by promising stuff,destroying their families and hating conservatives to keep them dependent on the Dem party

2. import as many destitute illegal aliens as possible from leftist countries (eg Mexico), and give them stuff too in exchange for their vote.

Many middle class American Dems are really / truly are not bothered by HRC's dishonestly and lack of character. They seem to delight that she gets away with it and posters will typically respond by saying "yeah, but she's leading in all the polls etc" ... which makes your point about the demographics swinging, along with a general decline in morals and culture.

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I think your analysis is pretty good about the demographics swinging. The Dem strategy is twofold

1. keep blacks "on the liberal planation" by promising stuff,destroying their families and hating conservatives to keep them dependent on the Dem party

2. import as many destitute illegal aliens as possible from leftist countries (eg Mexico), and give them stuff too in exchange for their vote.

Many middle class American Dems are really / truly are not bothered by HRC's dishonestly and lack of character. They seem to delight that she gets away with it and posters will typically respond by saying "yeah, but she's leading in all the polls etc" ... which makes your point about the demographics swinging, along with a general decline in morals and culture.

There has been discussion of the blind acceptance of the average democratic voter who "doesn't care, etc.

What does it say about the democratic leadership that also allows Clinton to tread all over basic decency and honesty.
Have we degenerated to the point where the only aspect that matters is party?

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The Clintons struggle to get by on gazillions of dollars, while proclaiming their love for the middle class.

Clintons have made more than $25 million for speaking since Jan. 2014 - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-earn-more-than-25-million-in-speaking-fees-since-january-2014/2015/05/15/52605fbe-fb4d-11e4-9ef4-1bb7ce3b3fb7_story.html?hpid=z3)

Yes, we all believe them and applaud their compassion.

ps no one "earns" this type of money ... it's being paid for by uber-wealthy crony capitalists, in advance, for access to President(s) Clinton.

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Lol! What a 50% wit....

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We will see more of who she really is when ever and if ever she comes out of hiding and meets with real people and interviews without staging and scripting.

And wait until the other dems who want the job more than she does (is that possible) start to dig and stir the peace and call her out.

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Hillary Clinton sure has all the Tea Party scared. They are all on this forum trying to spread their fabrications about her - but they should realize that Mrs. Clinton has nothing to worry about from them.

All the demographics point to a victory for her.

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Hillary Clinton sure has all the Tea Party scared. They are all on this forum trying to spread their fabrications about her - but they should realize that Mrs. Clinton has nothing to worry about from them.

All the demographics point to a victory for her.

For some inane reason, you seem to think that only those that are affiliated with the Tea Party see Hillary for the dishonest and corrupt politician that she is. News flash: Independents and many moderate Democrats continue to move away from here. Contrary to your distorted belief, not everyone is a Kool-Aid drinker.

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For some inane reason, you seem to think that only those that are affiliated with the Tea Party see Hillary for the dishonest and corrupt politician that she is. News flash: Independents and many moderate Democrats continue to move away from here. Contrary to your distorted belief, not everyone is a Kool-Aid drinker.


Please, please, please post a link to a recent poll that substantiates any of the above allegations, otherwise this is just wishful thinking.

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Please, please, please post a link to a recent poll that substantiates any of the above allegations, otherwise this is just wishful thinking.

Why would I even bother, Hillary disciples like you would only discount them as right-wing propaganda.

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Why would I even bother, Hillary disciples like you would only discount them as right-wing propaganda.


Why don't you try us? In other words you got nothing, total baloney.

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All the demographics point to a victory for her.

Maybe for now - but the demographics points as you call them have not been solid and do seem to wane as voters hear more. I think it's way too early to make blanket statements like this as there are still so many undecided voters out there. And many of them, frankly, are too busy keeping their heads above water financially to give a wit right now!

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Why don't you try us? In other words you got nothing, total baloney.

Common sense and recognizing the obvious would seem to trump various links don't you think?

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Common sense and recognizing the obvious would seem to trump various links don't you think?


What's that you say? Donald Trump will be the republican nominee for president of the United States?:MOJE_whot:

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Why would I even bother, Hillary disciples like you would only discount them as right-wing propaganda.






In other words, you can't.

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In other words, you can't.

Nyah Nyah nanananyah

[Guest]

Uh, oh. Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post says it offends her that Carly Fiorina is running for president with a career in business behind her, instead of being a former president's wife. If only she had the gravitas of a Mrs. Bill Clinton, skilled in the arts of bimbo suppression, who went on to stellar careers in her post-Bill incarnation, as … well, as what?


Hillary's Crisis of Competence | RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2015/05/19/hillary039s_crisis_of_competence_357346.html)

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Uh, oh. Ruth Marcus of the Washington Post says it offends her that Carly Fiorina is running for president with a career in business behind her, instead of being a former president's wife. If only she had the gravitas of a Mrs. Bill Clinton, skilled in the arts of bimbo suppression, who went on to stellar careers in her post-Bill incarnation, as … well, as what?


Hillary's Crisis of Competence | RealClearPolitics (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/2015/05/19/hillary039s_crisis_of_competence_357346.html)

I think being a US Senator from New York and being a Secretary of State is a mighty stellar career.

Sounds as though you are suffering from "Hillary Envy" as compared to your "stellar career".

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I think being a US Senator from New York and being a Secretary of State is a mighty stellar career.

Sounds as though you are suffering from "Hillary Envy" as compared to your "stellar career".

Having a title is one thing, having accomplishments is another.

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I think being a US Senator from New York and being a Secretary of State is a mighty stellar career.

Sounds as though you are suffering from "Hillary Envy" as compared to your "stellar career".

I may not have had a "stellar career" in your eyes, but I'm also not responsible for the death of four Americans due to incompetence.

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I think being a US Senator from New York and being a Secretary of State is a mighty stellar career.

Sounds as though you are suffering from "Hillary Envy" as compared to your "stellar career".


Having the two words "Hillary" and "Envy" in the same phase is actually cited as an example of an oxymoron in the dictionary.

However, who can not be a little bit envious at a woman who can amass a $200M personal fortune for selling political influence while, at the same time, enlisting a horde of credulous people such as yourself who deem this an accomplishment. In reality, it's a felony and violates the RICO statutes.

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Having the two words "Hillary" and "Envy" in the same phase is actually cited as an example of an oxymoron in the dictionary.

Obviously, an old grumpy man with his "short"comings being exposed!:1rotfl:

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Obviously, an old grumpy man with his "short"comings being exposed!:1rotfl:

Obviously another idiotic reply by an immature senior citizen who is incapable of formulating a coherent response :)

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Obviously another idiotic reply by an immature senior citizen who is incapable of formulating a coherent response :)

:boom:

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I may not have had a "stellar career" in your eyes, but I'm also not responsible for the death of four Americans due to incompetence.


How about 4,400 American deaths due to incompetence?

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How about 4,400 American deaths due to incompetence?

How about Obama's willful enablement and creation of a full-fledged terror state (ie ISIS) by sheer incompetence plus dereliction of duty?

His generals and intelligence advisors recommended we leave a US force in place to prevent it. Obama declined, for political reasons (ie 2012 election). We, and our grandkids, get to pay the price. That abysmal decision was, and is, genuinely impeachable.

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Did anyone else happen tnotice in the interviews her highness granted last week, the woman cannot look anybody or the camera in the eye.

A very telling trait of discomfort of the situation. Then there are those who suggest it is easier to speak untruths when not looking anybody in the eye.

Either way it is apparent she is struggling. Ya see, in the long run, it really does make a difference. Those who lie or exaggerate never remember what they said last or whether they addressed the subject at all; hence distracted by reality when confronted eye to eye...no script....no rehearsals....no paid participants!

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How about 4,400 American deaths due to incompetence?

I'm proud to say that I'm not responsible for any deaths.

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Did anyone else happen tnotice in the interviews her highness granted last week, the woman cannot look anybody or the camera in the eye.

A very telling trait of discomfort of the situation. Then there are those who suggest it is easier to speak untruths when not looking anybody in the eye.

Either way it is apparent she is struggling. Ya see, in the long run, it really does make a difference. Those who lie or exaggerate never remember what they said last or whether they addressed the subject at all; hence distracted by reality when confronted eye to eye...no script....no rehearsals....no paid participants!

I did notice that and likewise thought it peculiar.

Something else ... whenever she talks she has what appears to be a practiced technique of nodding her head ... almost like a bobble head you would see on the dashboard of a beat up car, except she bobs her head more slowly. Have you noticed that as well?

My guess is someone is coaching her and said this will make her seem nicer to people?

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I did notice that and likewise thought it peculiar.

Something else ... whenever she talks she has what appears to be a practiced technique of nodding her head ... almost like a bobble head you would see on the dashboard of a beat up car, except she bobs her head more slowly. Have you noticed that as well?

My guess is someone is coaching her and said this will make her seem nicer to people?

As stated by another female candidate.....you can't put lipstick on a pig (or something like that).

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Here's an article from an uber liberal columnist at the Washington Post ... entitled "Clinton the Inauthentic"

Hillary fans ... no worries however. What's a lack of authenticity when you love the people and have $200M of cash from influence peddling?

Clinton the inauthentic - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clintons-guilt-by-association/2015/06/04/bd836dc4-0b13-11e5-a7ad-b430fc1d3f5c_story.html?hpid=z2)

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Here's an article from an uber liberal columnist at the Washington Post ... entitled "Clinton the Inauthentic"

Hillary fans ... no worries however. What's a lack of authenticity when you love the people and have $200M of cash from influence peddling?

Clinton the inauthentic - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/hillary-clintons-guilt-by-association/2015/06/04/bd836dc4-0b13-11e5-a7ad-b430fc1d3f5c_story.html?hpid=z2)

Thanks for the link.

A short paragraph in this story made me feel proud. I have stated on this forum a number of times how hypocritical the Democratic party is with Ms. Clinton as their anointed candidate. It is simply amazing....

From your link...

"At a time of rising populist backlash against Wall Street, inequality and wealth-purchased privilege, there is no Democrat more closely tied to the rich and the powerful than Clinton. At a time when Democrats need to draw contrasts with Republicans by sticking up for the little guy, Clinton’s solicitation of — and favors for — the powerful make her an inauthentic messenger."

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OOPS

"WASHINGTON — Emails that a longtime confidant to Hillary Rodham Clinton recently handed over to the House committee investigating the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, raise new questions about whether the State Department and Mrs. Clinton have complied with a series of requests from the panel.

The emails, provided by Sidney Blumenthal, a close adviser to Mrs. Clinton, include information about weapons that were circulating in Libya and about the security situation in Benghazi in the year and a half before the attacks. The committee has asked the State Department and Mrs. Clinton several times in the past year for emails from her and other department officials about “weapons located or found in” Libya and about the decision to open and maintain a diplomatic mission in Benghazi."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/us/politics/sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clintons-confidant-turns-over-memos-on-libya.html?_r=0

How much can she actually stretch the truth on this stuff ?

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OOPS

"WASHINGTON — Emails that a longtime confidant to Hillary Rodham Clinton recently handed over to the House committee investigating the 2012 attacks in Benghazi, Libya, raise new questions about whether the State Department and Mrs. Clinton have complied with a series of requests from the panel.

The emails, provided by Sidney Blumenthal, a close adviser to Mrs. Clinton, include information about weapons that were circulating in Libya and about the security situation in Benghazi in the year and a half before the attacks. The committee has asked the State Department and Mrs. Clinton several times in the past year for emails from her and other department officials about “weapons located or found in” Libya and about the decision to open and maintain a diplomatic mission in Benghazi."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/us/politics/sidney-blumenthal-hillary-clintons-confidant-turns-over-memos-on-libya.html?_r=0

How much can she actually stretch the truth on this stuff ?

You have to give Hillary credit ... she is absolutely one of the best and most deceitful liars out there. She is truly in a league of her own. The fact that she is dishonest and untrustworthy is actually no longer debatable ... it's pretty much been documented.

Now the only question is whether an immigrant-stuffed ballot box and large cities full of brain dead Dem voters are sufficient to put her over the top.

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I don't believe there is any question that there are enough votes to elect her. Most people either don't care about her lack of character or are blissfully uninformed. I recommend hunkering down because it is going to be a rough ride. Hopefully the Republicans will maintain control of Congress and can minimize the damage she can do. A Jeb Bush/Marco Rubio ticket could be a winner.

You have to give Hillary credit ... she is absolutely one of the best and most deceitful liars out there. She is truly in a league of her own. The fact that she is dishonest and untrustworthy is actually no longer debatable ... it's pretty much been documented.

Now the only question is whether an immigrant-stuffed ballot box and large cities full of brain dead Dem voters are sufficient to put her over the top.

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It is hard to believe that Hillary is the best Progressive Liberal that the Democrats have to offer....


Many people who may vote in the democratic primary election, if there is one and the general election in 2016 have no real knowledge of Mrs. Clinton or her accomplishments. As a public service, I thought I would provide some input regarding her triumphs for consideration.

When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over a health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn’t even get a vote in a democratic controlled congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood – both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next she chose Janet Reno – husband Bill described her selection as “my worst mistake.” Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.

Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovered of Ms. Guanier’s radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.

Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

Many younger votes will have no knowledge of “Travelgate.” Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson – and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours

Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House. Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the “bimbo eruption” and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were:

• She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones.
• She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million
Dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.

• Hillary’s devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for lying under oath to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.

• Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, “I do not recall,” “I have no recollection,” and “I don’t know” a total of 56 times while under oath.

• After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, China, and artwork that she had stolen.

Other than that, she did an outstanding job.

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Greate post,a strong woman who allowed her husband to cheat their whole marriage,forgot that

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It is hard to believe that Hillary is the best Progressive Liberal that the Democrats have to offer....


Many people who may vote in the democratic primary election, if there is one and the general election in 2016 have no real knowledge of Mrs. Clinton or her accomplishments. As a public service, I thought I would provide some input regarding her triumphs for consideration.

When Bill Clinton was president, he allowed Hillary to assume authority over a health care reform. Even after threats and intimidation, she couldn’t even get a vote in a democratic controlled congress. This fiasco cost the American taxpayers about $13 million in cost for studies, promotion, and other efforts.

Then President Clinton gave Hillary authority over selecting a female attorney general. Her first two selections were Zoe Baird and Kimba Wood – both were forced to withdraw their names from consideration. Next she chose Janet Reno – husband Bill described her selection as “my worst mistake.” Some may not remember that Reno made the decision to gas David Koresh and the Branch Davidian religious sect in Waco, Texas resulting in dozens of deaths of women and children.

Husband Bill allowed Hillary to make recommendations for the head of the Civil Rights Commission. Lani Guanier was her selection. When a little probing led to the discovered of Ms. Guanier’s radical views, her name had to be withdrawn from consideration.

Apparently a slow learner, husband Bill allowed Hillary to make some more recommendations. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the Treasury Department. Her selections went well: Hubbel went to prison, Foster (presumably) committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

Many younger votes will have no knowledge of “Travelgate.” Hillary wanted to award unfettered travel contracts to Clinton friend Harry Thompson – and the White House Travel Office refused to comply. She managed to have them reported to the FBI and fired. This ruined their reputations, cost them their jobs, and caused a thirty-six month investigation. Only one employee, Billy Dale was charged with a crime, and that of the enormous crime of mixing personal and White House funds. A jury acquitted him of any crime in less than two hours

Still not convinced of her ineptness, Hillary was allowed to recommend a close Clinton friend, Craig Livingstone, for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies (Filegate) and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff, suddenly Hillary and the president denied even knowing Livingstone, and of course, denied knowledge of drug use in the White House. Following this debacle, the FBI closed its White House Liaison Office after more than thirty years of service to seven presidents.

Next, when women started coming forward with allegations of sexual harassment and rape by Bill Clinton, Hillary was put in charge of the “bimbo eruption” and scandal defense. Some of her more notable decisions in the debacle were:

• She urged her husband not to settle the Paula Jones lawsuit. After the Starr investigation they settled with Ms. Jones.
• She refused to release the Whitewater documents, which led to the appointment of Ken Starr as Special Prosecutor. After $80 million
Dollars of taxpayer money was spent, Starr's investigation led to Monica Lewinsky, which led to Bill lying about and later admitting his affairs.

• Hillary’s devious game plan resulted in Bill losing his license to practice law for lying under oath to a grand jury and then his subsequent impeachment by the House of Representatives.

• Hillary avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation by repeating, “I do not recall,” “I have no recollection,” and “I don’t know” a total of 56 times while under oath.

• After leaving the White House, Hillary was forced to return an estimated $200,000 in White House furniture, China, and artwork that she had stolen.

Other than that, she did an outstanding job.

Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

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Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

Especially the simpletons in The Villages Tea Bag Club.

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Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

I would love to respond to your hateful and inaccurate, uninformed post, but because my heart aches for those folks in South Carolina, I will simply ask you to at least try to stop hating, get informed and do not allow what you think are appropriate words to guide you.

I am just sick of this hate. It is not the politics, it is not race, it is hate within us, and your simple little barb, with no intelligent response is indicative of what I am saying.

Why can we not have discourse on issues without the hate. Your posts NEVER EVER actually address anything of substance. It is one name being called after another.

The issue in SC really weighs on me, as to what hate can do...how it eats at you.

Discourse with statements based on facts AND opinion, but never devoid of facts is important to all of us. Simply calling names is just destructive.

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Especially the simpletons in The Villages Tea Bag Club.

It would be something if you offered just one item as inaccurate or as many as you can leading you to disagree without just calling out a name.

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Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

WOW.......somebody's in big time denial!

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I would love to respond to your hateful and inaccurate, uninformed post, but because my heart aches for those folks in South Carolina, I will simply ask you to at least try to stop hating, get informed and do not allow what you think are appropriate words to guide you.

I am just sick of this hate. It is not the politics, it is not race, it is hate within us, and your simple little barb, with no intelligent response is indicative of what I am saying.

Why can we not have discourse on issues without the hate. Your posts NEVER EVER actually address anything of substance. It is one name being called after another.


...and where were your posts of outrage when liberals were diagnosed with mental illness by a poster or when a poster had a comparison of Pres. Obama's ears to a monkey's ears?

Do those posts add anything of substance? Both of those posters are examples of simpletons.

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...and where were your posts of outrage when liberals were diagnosed with mental illness by a poster or when a poster had a comparison of Pres. Obama's ears to a monkey's ears?

Do those posts add anything of substance? Both of those posters are examples of simpletons.

You need to brush up on your reading and comprehension skills. It appears that you are looking for something to hate.

Nobody agrees with what you disagree with, and you know it.

I am so sick and tired of this race thing; it is fostered and is now a political item, and it should not be.

I will say to your comment relative to "mental illness" and at the same time offer you a challenge.

I have so many friends who are Democrats and "liberals" I KNOW the fallacy of that ridiculous statement, but offer you this challenge....

Just on TOTV show me a post from a liberal poster that identifies an issue, discusses it and comes to a conclusion so another poster may comment.

You will be hard pressed. On here and many times in the national stage, posts or comments are met with a simple cry of racist. I have been called that many many times, but just on this forum. Why ? Because I oppose this issue or another supported by ou President. That is the sole reason, ONLY BECAUSE I DISAGREED ON A NON RACE ISSUE...

I, for one,have tired of it...I, for one would welcome a post grounded in facts, with no inclusion of a network or race accusation, just based on facts.

That just does not happen on here..ever and thus...

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Say the lies enough times, loud enough, and with enough enthusiam and the simpletons will believe you. The simpletons in this case are the low information voters of the Republican or Tea Bag Party.

Your mind is welded shut to any semblance of truth entering it.

Therefore, I hereby CHALLENGE you to review the content of post #348 and find ANYTHING that is inaccurate. Do some research, instead of reverting to the oh so predictable liberal name calling. You'll discover the information in the post is accurate and truthful.

You will then need to decide if you will simply continue to be a truth denier and name caller, or .... (and this is a stretch) recognize the sordid past of a very incompetent, dishonest and amoral woman named Clinton.

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Your mind is welded shut to any semblance of truth entering it.

Therefore, I hereby CHALLENGE you to review the content of post #348 and find ANYTHING that is inaccurate. Do some research, instead of reverting to the oh so predictable liberal name calling. You'll discover the information in the post is accurate and truthful.

You will then need to decide if you will simply continue to be a truth denier and name caller, or .... (and this is a stretch) recognize the sordid past of a very incompetent, dishonest and amoral woman named Clinton.

Stop with the name calling and hatred.

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Liberal or Conservative? I haven't seen this much anger since the McCarthy era.
I personally think that a moderate Republican will be the next President. In a democracy the candidate has to appeal to the electorate not just the true believers who are often blinded by passion and ideology.

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Liberal or Conservative? I haven't seen this much anger since the McCarthy era.
I personally think that a moderate Republican will be the next President. In a democracy the candidate has to appeal to the electorate not just the true believers who are often blinded by passion and ideology.

You are correct, and the ideologues continue to look for someone to blame in a political manner, instead of looking at themselves a bit, and listening.

This applies to both idealogys so please do not try to trap this post and make it mean something it does not.

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Liberal or Conservative? I haven't seen this much anger since the McCarthy era.
I personally think that a moderate Republican will be the next President. In a democracy the candidate has to appeal to the electorate not just the true believers who are often blinded by passion and ideology.

This is what I had hoped for in Romney, but it didn't happen. In my opinion, he had everything going for him - proven leadership skills, integrity,political experience, and not so far right that he couldn't appeal to the masses. In other words, not a lot of baggage and very capable. What happened? I don't know, but I know it has caused me to lose hope that the Republicans will ever be able to come up with an "acceptable" candidate....note the quotes, meaning not necessarily acceptable to me, but to the masses.

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Liberal or Conservative? I haven't seen this much anger since the McCarthy era.
I personally think that a moderate Republican will be the next President. In a democracy the candidate has to appeal to the electorate not just the true believers who are often blinded by passion and ideology.

Who would that moderate Republican be? It would not be Cruz, Walker, Jindahl, Trump, Santorum, or Perry. None of them are moderate.

Bush has too much baggage from the family name he is trying to escape.

Carson has no political experience and starting at the very top will not work.

Fiorina is the same as Carson with no political experience. Neither Carson nor Firoina could work effectively in Washington.

Rubio? I do not think the old line Republicans are ready for a young Hispanic as President. He has qualifications but ...

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Who would that moderate Republican be? It would not be Cruz, Walker, Jindahl, Trump, Santorum, or Perry. None of them are moderate.

Bush has too much baggage from the family name he is trying to escape.

Carson has no political experience and starting at the very top will not work.

Fiorina is the same as Carson with no political experience. Neither Carson nor Firoina could work effectively in Washington.

Rubio? I do not think the old line Republicans are ready for a young Hispanic as President. He has qualifications but ...


Gov John Kasich is trying to position himself as the Jeb Bush alternative.

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In my personal opinion, those who would discount a candidate for lack of political experience are making a significant mistake.

A well educated, common sense, proven executive, with an ability to establish goals, plans and execution thereof is substantially ahead of anybody who knows and continues to work a broken, ineffective, useless, self serving system.

I'll take a proven track record of accomplishment over hot air politicians who are be holding to special interest groups, races or religions.

Clinton to me is the poster politician representing everything we all detest about politicians and how they operate. She has absolutely no capability or ability to bring anything new to any position......especially POTUS.

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Gov John Kasich is trying to position himself as the Jeb Bush alternative.

John Kasich 2016: Operation replace Jeb Bush - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/john-kasich-replace-jeb-bush-2016-candidate-119191.html)

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In my personal opinion, those who would discount a candidate for lack of political experience are making a significant mistake.

A well educated, common sense, proven executive, with an ability to establish goals, plans and execution thereof is substantially ahead of anybody who knows and continues to work a broken, ineffective, useless, self serving system.

I'll take a proven track record of accomplishment over hot air politicians who are be holding to special interest groups, races or religions.

Clinton to me is the poster politician representing everything we all detest about politicians and how they operate. She has absolutely no capability or ability to bring anything new to any position......especially POTUS.

You make some excellent and reasonable points ...

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Stop with the name calling and hatred.

Given that you are clearly 'the chief' when it comes to name calling when someone disagrees with you, I can only pray for some level of light to penetrate your apparently fully closed mind.

And, please keep one key item in mind since you cannot refute the content of the earlier post, disagreement with what you 'want' to believe does not equal hate, racists, simpleton etc. It means you are wrong and people are telling you that by disagreeing with your comments or otherwise misguided opinions.

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In my personal opinion, those who would discount a candidate for lack of political experience are making a significant mistake.

A well educated, common sense, proven executive, with an ability to establish goals, plans and execution thereof is substantially ahead of anybody who knows and continues to work a broken, ineffective, useless, self serving system.

I'll take a proven track record of accomplishment over hot air politicians who are be holding to special interest groups, races or religions.

Clinton to me is the poster politician representing everything we all detest about politicians and how they operate. She has absolutely no capability or ability to bring anything new to any position......especially POTUS.

Totally agree with you. When I listed some general traits about the experience and character of Romney, that was the one that I would put the least emphasis on. Political experience to me has become more of a stumbling block than an attribute. Just get someone in there with the fortitude to get this country back on track and the people working together for the common good of the country as a whole, not just for special interest groups. In other words, get politics out of the equation! It has done nothing so far but to keep us at a standstill, or worse yet, pushing us down a hole we may eventually not be able to climb out of. Either way, we are setting ourselves up to become an easy target for our enemies if something doesn't change.

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Who would that moderate Republican be? It would not be Cruz, Walker, Jindahl, Trump, Santorum, or Perry. None of them are moderate.

Bush has too much baggage from the family name he is trying to escape.

Carson has no political experience and starting at the very top will not work.

Fiorina is the same as Carson with no political experience. Neither Carson nor Firoina could work effectively in Washington.

Rubio? I do not think the old line Republicans are ready for a young Hispanic as President. He has qualifications but ...

And likewise, any comments on who that moderate Democrat might be?

I'm not so sure it necessarily has to be a moderate in either case, but definitely someone who is willing to consider both sides of an argument, knows how to bring people together to a compromise if necessary, and has the guts to follow through. Haven't seen that in quite some time.......

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Political experience is a handicap not an asset.

Who would that moderate Republican be? It would not be Cruz, Walker, Jindahl, Trump, Santorum, or Perry. None of them are moderate.

Bush has too much baggage from the family name he is trying to escape.

Carson has no political experience and starting at the very top will not work.

Fiorina is the same as Carson with no political experience. Neither Carson nor Firoina could work effectively in Washington.

Rubio? I do not think the old line Republicans are ready for a young Hispanic as President. He has qualifications but ...

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GUEST believes the SNIPER FIRE fable? Incredible. How many gallons of Kool Aid do you have to drink to get that demented?

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I'm not so sure it necessarily has to be a moderate in either case, but definitely someone who is willing to consider both sides of an argument, knows how to bring people together to a compromise if necessary, and has the guts to follow through. Haven't seen that in quite some time.......

...and which candidate(s) offer the qualifications you speak of?

We know Trump will not compromise with anyone ever or would listen to both sides of an argument.

Rubio looks good but a young Cuban? Who knows?

Jeb Bush is the most likely candidate and would make for a tight race.

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GUEST believes the SNIPER FIRE fable? Incredible. How many gallons of Kool Aid do you have to drink to get that demented?

Demented? Stop with the childish name calling.

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Demented? Stop with the childish name calling.

I agree.....poster should be aware that the kool aid is served on both sides of the aisle.

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Hillary has three things going for her. She's female (I'd vote for that, there's too much testosterone in Govt), She's a Clinton (Not a bad brand, but I'd say the first one was simply in the right place at the right time, ie. the economic Tech Bubble period), and finally she has a lot of energy and worked very hard as Secretary, millions of miles of travel and she often looked haggard. I don't know about accomplishments and the world is too complex for me now. But I know Hillary gave her life to the job of Secretary of State and I give her credit in any case.

That said, I'm anti-dynasty. No Bush, No Clinton. I'm excited about Bernie Sanders. I feel the folks in our community tend to be conservation and opposed to change, so I don't fit in well. But I see Bernie as very similar to Obama 2008. I backed Obama and he disappointing (in fairness, it wasn't him as much as the opposition that wanted nothing but divisiveness). No matter, Bernie represents another opportunity for tomorrow and he's drawing the young people of tomorrow. My peers won't do it for him. Tomorrow belongs to the young and I hope they come through.

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Hillary has three things going for her. She's female (I'd vote for that, there's too much testosterone in Govt), She's a Clinton (Not a bad brand, but I'd say the first one was simply in the right place at the right time, ie. the economic Tech Bubble period), and finally she has a lot of energy and worked very hard as Secretary, millions of miles of travel and she often looked haggard. I don't know about accomplishments and the world is too complex for me now. But I know Hillary gave her life to the job of Secretary of State and I give her credit in any case.

That said, I'm anti-dynasty. No Bush, No Clinton. I'm excited about Bernie Sanders. I feel the folks in our community tend to be conservation and opposed to change, so I don't fit in well. But I see Bernie as very similar to Obama 2008. I backed Obama and he disappointing (in fairness, it wasn't him as much as the opposition that wanted nothing but divisiveness). No matter, Bernie represents another opportunity for tomorrow and he's drawing the young people of tomorrow. My peers won't do it for him. Tomorrow belongs to the young and I hope they come through.

I will keep this short but to summarize, I do not agree with anything you are saying at all, which means nothing except I do not agree....

1. If Bernie Sanders ever became President there would be change. He is a socialist who democrat Claire Mccaskill said this week was "way out there" and too far left even for her. He is a socialist true and true so he represents a philosphohy that has failed each and every time it had a chance.

2. Only comment I will make about you saying how " the opposition that wanted nothing but divisiveness)" THAT is certainly the line that the party wants you to take but suggest you look up a man named Harry Reid. He changed the rules in the senate to STOP DEBATE....it was out way or the highway until the last election. PLUS, I might add, the mockery and out and out slander thrown at the opposition was so offensive I am not sure how anyone could do anything but fight back as best they could.

Having said that...you must be looking forward to the debates as I am because your candidate Sanders is pushing Ms Clinton further and further left.

We shall see. The only thing I "think" we agree on, because my comments are not a defense of the other party...but I think we agree on needing the parties to come together to get something done. We have no statesman in the WH at present so important to me is that characteristic.

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Totally agree with you. When I listed some general traits about the experience and character of Romney, that was the one that I would put the least emphasis on. Political experience to me has become more of a stumbling block than an attribute. Just get someone in there with the fortitude to get this country back on track and the people working together for the common good of the country as a whole, not just for special interest groups. In other words, get politics out of the equation! It has done nothing so far but to keep us at a standstill, or worse yet, pushing us down a hole we may eventually not be able to climb out of. Either way, we are setting ourselves up to become an easy target for our enemies if something doesn't change.

Romney was and still is my choice Intelligent integrity interest inititative.

I often wonder what it would be like if just once a politician without being forced admitted to the accusations . I believe Mitt Romney would but he didn't have any hidden skeletons that would offer fetter for the media. so Harry Reid invented the tax angle lying not once but twice and then boasting it worked because Romney wasn't elected. One theory as to why is because many white voters did not vote.

I personally believe we need a strong conservative president in 2016 because its going to take some doing to unravel the Obama mess. a moderate will kow tow to the progressives and by doing so will end up with half way measures that will be ineffective.

Perry gave an excellent speech about the race situation in our country that caused the pundits to stand up and take notice.

The Republican Establishment I fear will back Bush creating an unequal opportunity for other candidates. Let's hope we get an opportunity to hear all candidates debate because many of them have sound ideas for solving our problems

Personal Best Regards:

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The allegations concerning Clinton and her Foundation have a loud ring of truth. The Benghazi allegations have a loud ring of truth, The personal server and destruction of hundreds of e-mails have another loud ring of truth. so what is preventing the truth for being told? Where are the great newspaper investigators of the past that unraveled Watergate? Nixon's antics were small potatoes next to Hillary's illegal acts? and , Hillary was on the prosecutors team. Where is the moral outrage?

Her husband also an attorney lied under oath never admitted wrong doing and we can be sure that Hillary will go to her grave denying any impropriety

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There is a liberal bias in the print and broadcast media. The numerous lies by Clinton will generally not be discussed. The media playbook is "the ends justifies the means" and they favor a democratic woman candidate.

The allegations concerning Clinton and her Foundation have a loud ring of truth. The Benghazi allegations have a loud ring of truth, The personal server and destruction of hundreds of e-mails have another loud ring of truth. so what is preventing the truth for being told? Where are the great newspaper investigators of the past that unraveled Watergate? Nixon's antics were small potatoes next to Hillary's illegal acts? and , Hillary was on the prosecutors team. Where is the moral outrage?

Her husband also an attorney lied under oath never admitted wrong doing and we can be sure that Hillary will go to her grave denying any impropriety

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[Guest]

The allegations concerning Clinton and her Foundation have a loud ring of truth. The Benghazi allegations have a loud ring of truth, The personal server and destruction of hundreds of e-mails have another loud ring of truth. so what is preventing the truth for being told? Where are the great newspaper investigators of the past that unraveled Watergate? Nixon's antics were small potatoes next to Hillary's illegal acts? and , Hillary was on the prosecutors team. Where is the moral outrage?

Her husband also an attorney lied under oath never admitted wrong doing and we can be sure that Hillary will go to her grave denying any impropriety

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This is just the same old ultra-conservative hash that is rehashed one more time. There is no need for moral outrage because there is no wrong doing. Admit it, the conservatives are terrified of Mrs. Clinton because she is a strong and competent woman. She is a smart person and is heads and shoulders above ANY Republican candidate.

Once again, remember the demographics of the Democratic Party and of the Republican Party. The demographics are totally in place for Mrs. Clinton to win the presidency. Can you dispute that? NO, you cannot.

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This is just the same old ultra-conservative hash that is rehashed one more time. There is no need for moral outrage because there is no wrong doing. Admit it, the conservatives are terrified of Mrs. Clinton because she is a strong and competent woman. She is a smart person and is heads and shoulders above ANY Republican candidate.

Once again, remember the demographics of the Democratic Party and of the Republican Party. The demographics are totally in place for Mrs. Clinton to win the presidency. Can you dispute that? NO, you cannot.

Relative to the demographics that you mention. President Obama received 93% of the African American vote, which based on turnout figures equates to a lot of votes. There were about 2 million EXTRA BLACK VOTERS in 2012, and assumption is that was because of President Obama. President Obama won by 5 million.

She will need that turnout PLUS need to carry that same percentage to maintain the plurality advantage.

Same thing applies to the Hispanic vote. 71% of the over 11 million who voted were voting for Obama. That is another approx 8 million votes, so unless she is able to duplicate or increase the black turnout and margin as well as the Hispanic turnout and margin, I really do not see the demographic advantage you speak of. Fact is,without the dramatic increase in the black and Hispanic vote, President Obama does not win.

And perhaps it is nothing but rehash on her many many clouds. Time will tell, and time is one thing there is an abundance of in the 2016 cycle.

To speak on a more positive vein relative to your hopes I see where George Soros is throwing a few more million out ther to get out that vote, as I think professionals are also aware that if the blacks and Hispanics do not come out in record numbers, and vote as they did in 2012, it will not pan out so well.

Another thing to look out for. The crowds with Bernie Sanders may, and that is a big may, convince him he has a following that suggests a 3rd party run, especially on the socialist party. That would further inroad on Ms. Clinton.

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Relative to the demographics that you mention. President Obama received 93% of the African American vote, which based on turnout figures equates to a lot of votes. There were about 2 million EXTRA BLACK VOTERS in 2012, and assumption is that was because of President Obama. President Obama won by 5 million.

She will need that turnout PLUS need to carry that same percentage to maintain the plurality advantage.

Same thing applies to the Hispanic vote. 71% of the over 11 million who voted were voting for Obama. That is another approx 8 million votes, so unless she is able to duplicate or increase the black turnout and margin as well as the Hispanic turnout and margin, I really do not see the demographic advantage you speak of. Fact is,without the dramatic increase in the black and Hispanic vote, President Obama does not win.

And perhaps it is nothing but rehash on her many many clouds. Time will tell, and time is one thing there is an abundance of in the 2016 cycle.

To speak on a more positive vein relative to your hopes I see where George Soros is throwing a few more million out ther to get out that vote, as I think professionals are also aware that if the blacks and Hispanics do not come out in record numbers, and vote as they did in 2012, it will not pan out so well.

Another thing to look out for. The crowds with Bernie Sanders may, and that is a big may, convince him he has a following that suggests a 3rd party run, especially on the socialist party. That would further inroad on Ms. Clinton.

The Bernie Sanders third party split is what the Republicans are hoping for. That is why the Republicans are putting up all the chatter they can at this point. You will recall the chatter from Republican forum members a month or two ago trying to push for O'Malley. Same thing.

Even though I identify as Socialist/Progressive myself, a political ticket with either of those party names would drive voters away. Same way with Independent.

Nope, you will see that the demographics are all favoring Mrs. Clinton and a Democratic victory.

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Clinton is a well documented liar. Her history as Secretary of State suggests incompetence as a core quality. She has no management experience. Can she be elected? Sure, as she will run on the typical democratic platform of fear mongering and class envy. The story sells among the uninformed. It is what it is.

This is just the same old ultra-conservative hash that is rehashed one more time. There is no need for moral outrage because there is no wrong doing. Admit it, the conservatives are terrified of Mrs. Clinton because she is a strong and competent woman. She is a smart person and is heads and shoulders above ANY Republican candidate.

Once again, remember the demographics of the Democratic Party and of the Republican Party. The demographics are totally in place for Mrs. Clinton to win the presidency. Can you dispute that? NO, you cannot.

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The Bernie Sanders third party split is what the Republicans are hoping for. That is why the Republicans are putting up all the chatter they can at this point. You will recall the chatter from Republican forum members a month or two ago trying to push for O'Malley. Same thing.

Even though I identify as Socialist/Progressive myself, a political ticket with either of those party names would drive voters away. Same way with Independent.

Nope, you will see that the demographics are all favoring Mrs. Clinton and a Democratic victory.

Does this mean you and all the other demographics you suggest will automatically fall her way just do not care about the credibility and honesty issues that abound for Clinton.

And please do not try to state they are all opposition lies because unlike your position on the demographics there are more and more democrats questioning her character.

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Relative to the demographics that you mention. President Obama received 93% of the African American vote, which based on turnout figures equates to a lot of votes. There were about 2 million EXTRA BLACK VOTERS in 2012, and assumption is that was because of President Obama. President Obama won by 5 million.

She will need that turnout PLUS need to carry that same percentage to maintain the plurality advantage.

Same thing applies to the Hispanic vote. 71% of the over 11 million who voted were voting for Obama. That is another approx 8 million votes, so unless she is able to duplicate or increase the black turnout and margin as well as the Hispanic turnout and margin, I really do not see the demographic advantage you speak of. Fact is,without the dramatic increase in the black and Hispanic vote, President Obama does not win.

And perhaps it is nothing but rehash on her many many clouds. Time will tell, and time is one thing there is an abundance of in the 2016 cycle.

To speak on a more positive vein relative to your hopes I see where George Soros is throwing a few more million out ther to get out that vote, as I think professionals are also aware that if the blacks and Hispanics do not come out in record numbers, and vote as they did in 2012, it will not pan out so well.

Another thing to look out for. The crowds with Bernie Sanders may, and that is a big may, convince him he has a following that suggests a 3rd party run, especially on the socialist party. That would further inroad on Ms. Clinton.


You carefully omitted the women's vote which Obama won by 20 points. How much more or less of the women's vote will go to Hillary Clinton, and what is there in the republican platform that would appeal to any woman?

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You carefully omitted the women's vote which Obama won by 20 points. How much more or less of the women's vote will go to Hillary Clinton, and what is there in the republican platform that would appeal to any woman?

Are you saying that the same percentage of women will automatically fall to Clinton given the uncertainty and questions of integrity and honesty. Does this imply that the democratic women don't care about integrity, honesty and qualification as long as the she is a democrat?

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The Bernie Sanders third party split is what the Republicans are hoping for. That is why the Republicans are putting up all the chatter they can at this point. You will recall the chatter from Republican forum members a month or two ago trying to push for O'Malley. Same thing.

Even though I identify as Socialist/Progressive myself, a political ticket with either of those party names would drive voters away. Same way with Independent.

Nope, you will see that the demographics are all favoring Mrs. Clinton and a Democratic victory.

Two things in response to this post.

1. You give TOTV quite a bit of credence if you are citing "chatter" from this forum as any kind of indicator.

2. See you in Nov 2016. Lots of time, scandals and revelations to come on both sides I fear. And as I said earlier, maybe but cannot see the turnout from blacks especially for Ms Clinton.

3. The Sanders comment was mine and mine alone. Never read it or heard it. AND it only became a thought when I saw the crowds he was getting. Either the Democrats do not want Hillary in those numbers or he is a viable candidate as a third party.

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This is just the same old ultra-conservative hash that is rehashed one more time. There is no need for moral outrage because there is no wrong doing. Admit it, the conservatives are terrified of Mrs. Clinton because she is a strong and competent woman. She is a smart person and is heads and shoulders above ANY Republican candidate.

Once again, remember the demographics of the Democratic Party and of the Republican Party. The demographics are totally in place for Mrs. Clinton to win the presidency. Can you dispute that? NO, you cannot.

This is a classic alinsky tactic used by progressives and since they dominate the the media in print the digital world and Hollywood they can smother just about anything.

This tactic is old and its use is dangerous because its a cancer that's eating away at the very fabric of this nation. America needs to get back on the moral imperative path

People like this above-stated poster do not have the prescience to see how it hurts us all otherwise why would one be celebrating their own demise?

Personal Best Regards:

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In my view Bernie Sanders is getting a lot of attention to make it look like the democrats are open to other candidates but they are not. clinton has only one major factor in her favor "name recognition Admitting her Name recognition as an asset is for me to say painful but factually most voters can't get past name because they are either stupid or lazy.

In 2008 it was so readily apparent that Obama based on his lack of bona fides and radical associations was going to be a disaster. But the strategically placed progressives sought vindication for their affirmative action policies and what better way then elect a black president. So adamant were they to be right that they angle the truth re-write history, crowning Obama with all types of false accolades They continue to play that old alinksy game of passing air and then pointing to the Republicans.

Hillary Clinton also has no real bona fides is clearly manipulative untrustworthy also has bad associations but the progressives want a woman president and they will go to any lengths to get her elected.

If they win its a continuation of the radical left who have no idea how to lead

This nation is unraveling but progressives are covering up important breaches such as the hacking of OPM a major hit 10 times more damage than snowden traitorous acts. By the way Holder is working a deal to get that traitor Snowden back. Wanna bet we have another Bergdahl deal going down They ignore the unresponsive economy, decrease in defense, damaging foreign policy and so on and so on

All I can say is this is the sleaziest administration ever to have represented this country and I include Clinton's participation to fostering our decline

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In my view Bernie Sanders is getting a lot of attention to make it look like the democrats are open to other candidates but they are not. clinton has only one major factor in her favor "name recognition Admitting her Name recognition as an asset is for me to say painful but factually most voters can't get past name because they are either stupid or lazy.

In 2008 it was so readily apparent that Obama based on his lack of bona fides and radical associations was going to be a disaster. But the strategically placed progressives sought vindication for their affirmative action policies and what better way then elect a black president.

the progressives want a woman president and they will go to any lengths to get her elected.

If they win its a continuation of the radical left who have no idea how to lead


All I can say is this is the sleaziest administration ever to have represented this country and I include Clinton's participation to fostering our decline




Good for you.

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Hillary will finish what Obama started, elect her and the revolution starts.

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Hillary will finish what Obama started, elect her and the revolution starts.

Do you think even loyal democrats, the common folks can be duped a third time?

I bet not. At least not with a KNOWN shady candidate at the outset.

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And others here expect nothing to be posted to counter the credentials described by the OP Guest.

Once knew of Hillary walking toward a support staff in the East Wing. The young military service member, said, "Good Morning, Mrs. Clinton". She spun around walked over to him and said, "You do not need to address me when you meet me in the hall. My time is valuable and I don't have time to say hello to everyone I meet in the hallway. You can go back to your work section and tell your other pukes not to address me either or I will have all of you shipped to Afghanistan tomorrow. This is the last time you will ever have to speak to me!"

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Listened to her first interview today....

1. Again she says it is all a "right wing conspiracy". Remember when she said that in defense of her hubby on the Monica Lewinsky affair. She said it on national tv and it turned out that her hubby was guilty as charged. Today, she again says all this stuff about her is...she did not say right wing...she said a Republican conspiracy against her and her husband. Did not work years ago and do not see it working again.

2. On immigration...where do I start. When President George Bush was pushing for immigration reform and she was the senator from NY, she voted to shut it down and cut of conversations. NOW, she is touting all this stuff she has been opposed to since she was elected senator. And recall last year when all the young central american youth was arriving at the border...she was loud and clear on wanting them sent back.

Next she went after all the Republicans and really went after Jeb Bush who is married to an immigrant. I think she represented him wrongly on his position on citizenship. He is in favor IF part of a total package, just not by itself. And her comments, if I were Jeb Bush I would take personally. I do not even think she knows he is married to an immigrant.

Anyway, nothing changes

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Once knew of Hillary walking toward a support staff in the East Wing. The young military service member, said, "Good Morning, Mrs. Clinton". She spun around walked over to him and said, "You do not need to address me when you meet me in the hall. My time is valuable and I don't have time to say hello to everyone I meet in the hallway. You can go back to your work section and tell your other pukes not to address me either or I will have all of you shipped to Afghanistan tomorrow. This is the last time you will ever have to speak to me!"

You know I SNOPED your quote.

Snopes at this link....snopes.com: Hillary Clinton Quotes (http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/hildabeast.asp) covers a multitude of incidents "similar" to the one you report.

There was obviously an email circulating about this stuff and SNOPES says...MIXTURE...some true and some false.

I read this thing and if even one of them is true, WOW.....While I am not a supporter, it is difficult to believe her filthy mouth and attitude in some where an official report was filed by state troopers in Arkansas and secret service in Washington.

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I never realized there were so many misinformed residence in The Villages. With 110,000 residence, I guess there could be 1 or 2.
Kaydee's

Some on this board have asked for a summary of why Hillary Clinton is clearly the best qualified person in the Democrat Party to become President of the US. I accept the challenge.

Hillary has many qualifications… too numerous to list. I will simply give you five. No doubt others can provide many more.

1. People Skills. A President must be able to relate to people, especially the “little people”. Hillary’s skills are unsurpassed. Many examples can be found from people who know her best and as reported in Ron Kessler’s book “First Family Detail.” “She is so nasty to agents that being assigned to her detail is considered a form of punishment,” “She claims to be a champion of the little people, and she's going to help the middle class. And, in fact, she treats these people around her, [who] would lay down their lives for her like sub-humans; and I think voters need to consider that.” She also apparently shouts a lot, throws dishes when angry, and can not stand to see anyone in a military uniform around her.

2. Courage Under Fire. Hillary came under heavy sniper fire as First Lady, but she showed courage and was an inspiration to those who were with her. Here’s a video which captured the moment.
Hillary Clinton dodges sniper fire in Bosnia - raw footage - Video (http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/272252/) Clinton says she 'misspoke' about sniper fire - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/25/campaign.wrap/)

3. Foreign Policy. Any President must be able to defend the Country. As Secretary of State, Hillary excelled. She managed to get an Ambassador killed during a predictable terrorist attack, and then through a series of further bungles, caused the formation of ISIS (with some credit to her boss at the time.) which increasingly dominates the Middle East. In any event, even Rube Republicans will quickly agree the world is a much safer place thanks to her service.

4. Feminist. Hillary sets the bar high for young girls to emulate. She is loathe to benefit from a “man’s” (such as a husband) power or reputation, and we all know she would still be a contender even if she had never married Bill Clinton. Hillary loves her fellow women which is why she hunted down and destroyed scores of women who slept with her husband … all of whom were put up to it by Right Wing fanatics.

5. Anti-Wall Street. It’s important to keep the big money out of the White House, and Hillary is a known foe of the bankers on Wall Street, even putting Elizabeth Warren to shame in this regard. She is also loathe to profit off the Clinton name and refuses to accept extortionate fees for speaking at universities or engage in unseemly campaign fund raising. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/opinion/sunday/maureen-dowd-call-off-the-dogs.html?_r=0

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I think she is brain washed but seriously thinks Hillary is presidential material. Well she lies a lot that is good, she caused the deaths of some good folks, she stole furniture from the white house while slippery willy was dipping his cigar. And you want them back in the white house. If you think Obama supported the rainbow sinners then she will be there to support the illegals. Sorry she is a no go for decent folks!

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Don't waste you energy rationalizing why she would make Jimmy Carter & Obama look like heroes. People here do not measure a president by the criteria used by successful entities. They look at the surface only. Romney was the best we could have had but did could not pass the profiling test. I say go with Trump & his "take no prisoners" stance. He marries his women, has a successful record & not beholding to anyone. But we are hung up on idiosyncrasies such as sex, race, religion, etc. instead of substance. So we finish off the last 8 years of disaster by icing the cake. American brotherhood at its best.

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This is a spoof- Right!

[Guest]

Remember that Hillary Clinton leads ANY Republican candidate in a head to head poll.

It is a long time until November, 2016, but right now, Hillary would win the Presidency.

[Guest]

Her greatest ACCOMPLISHMENT is that she flew to many countries, logging over 1,000,000 miles in the process. Wait, I misspoke....that was NOT an accomplishment, as Carly Fiorina stated, that was an "Activity"

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Her greatest ACCOMPLISHMENT is that she flew to many countries, logging over 1,000,000 miles in the process. Wait, I misspoke....that was NOT an accomplishment, as Carly Fiorina stated, that was an "Activity"


How about winning two senate elections in New York? Would that be an accomplishment or an activity? Carly Fiorina would not know anything about winning senate elections from personal experience.

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Most unintelligent thread on this forum, and that is a HUGE accomplishment.
I couldn't agree more.

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Once knew of Hillary walking toward a support staff in the East Wing. The young military service member, said, "Good Morning, Mrs. Clinton". She spun around walked over to him and said, "You do not need to address me when you meet me in the hall. My time is valuable and I don't have time to say hello to everyone I meet in the hallway. You can go back to your work section and tell your other pukes not to address me either or I will have all of you shipped to Afghanistan tomorrow. This is the last time you will ever have to speak to me!"
That tale is so old it has whiskers.

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That tale is so old it has whiskers.

If you check the SNOPES link you will find that it is just one of many stories with the same theme.

She is now running for President.

Do you recall the story about Romney being a bully in grammar school making the news ?

I snoped the post originally because I could not believe it, but after reading just the SNOPES investigation, which I will assume with nothing contradictory is accurate, and seeing that much of it was confirmed, ESPECIALLY those confirmed by troopers and secret service agents making reports to their superiors

[Guest]

This is a very humorous thread. The question is NOT "why Billary is qualified to be president" but WHY anyone would be of questionable mind bent to vote for such a person of obviously major personality flaws, questionable honesty and ethically corrupt. Anyone of us with less political pull and influence as the Clintons, would have been incarcerated long ago for the laws that they have broken.

But, you are right about one thing; she IS qualified for the position. Question is, do we want someone with such a corrupt nature representing America? "Qualified?" Yes, after seeing what was elected last two terms, we have proof that anyone that's breathing and can read from a teleprompter is qualified for the position. Maybe they can't handle the job, but anyone can be elected to the job.

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But - can any Republican be elected? :D

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But - can any Republican be elected? :D

Probably not. Most Republicans believe in the American Way, not European socialism. Republicans believe in equal opportunity IF you qualify. Liberals believe that the opportunity should be adjusted so that you DO qualify.

If you are motivated then the conservative way is the best way. If you are lazy, then the liberal way is the best way. Paint it any way you wish, but that's the way it is.

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Republicans believe that everyone has an opportunity and whether you take advantage of it is up to you. Liberals believe that everyone should be the same and ignores the facts that some people are more intelligent, have more ambition, take more risks, etc.

Probably not. Most Republicans believe in the American Way, not European socialism. Republicans believe in equal opportunity IF you qualify. Liberals believe that the opportunity should be adjusted so that you DO qualify.

If you are motivated then the conservative way is the best way. If you are lazy, then the liberal way is the best way. Paint it any way you wish, but that's the way it is.

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You're right, she probably is the best democrat choice!

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We've seen how incompetent lawyers have been in leadership positions. Sure, they know the law(or how to circumvent it) but they don't have any idea how to run a business. Personally, I would like to see a successful business leader helping America prosper. One that brings EVERYONE up in living standard, not just the poor. If you compare many other countries' middle class, you will find that they are hardly living above our lower class. I have lived in or visited many countries of the world and believe me when I tell you, they don't have anything on us. But, we won't be like that for long if we continue down this "European Socialist" dream that our liberal leaders insist on pushing us into. Like I told one person that worked with me, "instead of being insulted by violations of PC, you should be attempting to improve one's opinion of you by improving your work ethic." No one concentrates on your ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation, when they are looking at job performance and reputation.

Instead of making history by electing the first woman president, we should be looking for the best candidate that will bring the country back together again instead of dividing it to the point of revolution. Put these kids to work and they won't be looking to join a radical terrorist group. Instead of electing the best man for president last term, you elected the first "black" president. Let's not make the same mistake again, just because Billary is female. If you are going to elect a female, find one that you can trust. And maybe this time, find someone that knows how to make money, not spend it.

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You're right, she probably is the best democrat choice!

I sincerely hope that she is not the BEST that Democrats have to offer.

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Her greatest ACCOMPLISHMENT is that she flew to many countries, logging over 1,000,000 miles in the process. Wait, I misspoke....that was NOT an accomplishment, as Carly Fiorina stated, that was an "Activity"

How about Hillary Clinton raising 45 million dollars in the quarter just ended beating Barack Obama's 43 million dollars in 2011 for the same period? Would that be an accomplishment or an activity according to Carly Fiorina, who raised one million dollars?

If Fiorina makes the debate stage next month, that will be an accomplishment, but don't bet on it.

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How about Hillary Clinton raising 45 million dollars in the quarter just ended beating Barack Obama's 43 million dollars in 2011 for the same period? Would that be an accomplishment or an activity according to Carly Fiorina, who raised one million dollars?

If Fiorina makes the debate stage next month, that will be an accomplishment, but don't bet on it.

It would only impress me depending on 2 things - where did the money come from and how hard (and I might add, ethically) did one work to get it? Otherwise, the numbers are meaningless.

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I sincerely hope that she is not the BEST that Democrats have to offer.

You're right.......that's a pretty low bar. Doesn't say much for the Democratic party.

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How about Hillary Clinton raising 45 million dollars in the quarter just ended beating Barack Obama's 43 million dollars in 2011 for the same period? Would that be an accomplishment or an activity according to Carly Fiorina, who raised one million dollars?

If Fiorina makes the debate stage next month, that will be an accomplishment, but don't bet on it.

An alarming activity. Without knowing the sources one cannot really say..
Alarming? Yes if all legitimate it confirms the democrats do not care at all about ethics, credibility, honesty or capabilities. They only care about the continuation of the hand outs and selective law enforcement and racism. The open border policy, allowing felons to vote, no voter ID requirements are all aimed at building the voter base that is invested in tcurrent hand out mode.

Alarming? Yes. We are not so slowly being outnumbered. At some point Charles Manson could be a democratic contender and as long as the party nods OK the rank and file, the lemmings, the free loaders will provide the vote.
Well maybe this is an exaggeration but it sure seems like it when one continues to witness the increasing tolerance for party first, we the people some where down the list.

Alarming? Yes!

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For dogcatcher

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For dogcatcher

Other than her spouse, does she have any experience "For dogcatcher?" :D

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It would only impress me depending on 2 things - where did the money come from and how hard (and I might add, ethically) did one work to get it? Otherwise, the numbers are meaningless.


Were you just as curious about where Mitt Romney's one billion dollars came from or Barack Obama's one billion dollars came from in the general election of 2012? Or is it just a misogynistic point of view?

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Other than her spouse, does she have any experience "For dogcatcher?" :D

This is so hysterical coming from the party that thought Sarah Palin was qualified to be President of the United States.

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This is so hysterical coming from the party that thought Sarah Palin was qualified to be President of the United States.

To remain civil about the subject if the measuring bar for candidate being qualified is Clinton then by all means Palin was/is qualified.....with Clinton being of suspect character that would put Palin significantly higher in the pecking order.

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Palin was Governor of Alaska and therefore had experience running a state. Clinton has no such experience.

This is so hysterical coming from the party that thought Sarah Palin was qualified to be President of the United States.

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Doesn't it bother any of the Clinton supporters that she is a liar? I personally would not vote for someone who clearly thinks I am stupid by lying repeatedly to me.

To remain civil about the subject if the measuring bar for candidate being qualified is Clinton then by all means Palin was/is qualified.....with Clinton being of suspect character that would put Palin significantly higher in the pecking order.

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Doesn't it bother any of the Clinton supporters that she is a liar? I personally would not vote for someone who clearly thinks I am stupid by lying repeatedly to me.

I do not think that anyone should compare Hillary Clinton's service with Ssrah Palin's service Clinton comes out the winner hands down.

The problem is that she does not tell the truth and worse than that, for me anyway, is she is a compound liar...a PROVEN compound liar, who has never apologized for any action.

Those are strong words, but it fits and of course we all know how to search to prove that fact. Even Democrats will give you that point.

The Democrats have a problem. She is it....there will be nobody else. They must support her. I certainly will withhold my critiques of her, if the democrats on the board will not come on here and profess her "wonderfulness" which is a fools errand.

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Hilary and Bill
well, who wears the pants
ha ha
after Barry Husein the moslim
let s see how another Clinton POS works out for us
USA is in big trouble
but i do not think most realize it
frog in boiling water analogy
good night America how are u

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Hilary and Bill
well, who wears the pants
ha ha
after Barry Husein the moslim
let s see how another Clinton POS works out for us
USA is in big trouble
but i do not think most realize it
frog in boiling water analogy
good night America how are u

I always get after the left wing troll gang, and have to tell you that your post is not funny and not welcome

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well last time i checked

we have freedom of speech in USA unless the libtards have ended that for us poor idiots

Villages libs uck say

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well last time i checked

we have freedom of speech in USA unless the libtards have ended that for us poor idiots

Villages libs uck say

Yep. You don't have to check further.

You can post whatever you like. I may be conservative, but I do not think smart aleck cracks serve any purpose whatsoever. The forum, to my understanding, was set up to DISCUSS issues of politics and like interest.

Just me, but the kind of remark you defend are funny perhaps in some situations, and again this is just me,I would prefer adult conversation. The remarks can be seen in emails, heard at taverns or neighborhood gatherings.

When you post such things, you forfeit your right to object to the "other side" mocking comments. They serve no purpose.

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free speech is a funny thing , some like it some don't.
like i just bought my first confederate flag.never wanted one before
. but when the do gooders tell me i can t have one i say up yers.
also why does amazon and nascar make them untouchable, but what about the Nazi flag and swastika, which is worse, you can buy these and fly them any where??????????

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This is so hysterical coming from the party that thought Sarah Palin was qualified to be President of the United States.

Yep, pretty funny. Even funnier is what we got instead. Goes to show ya, anyone can hold the office. But, we have seen in the last 5-6 years that not everyone can do the job.

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Oh, so this really is a serious subject, and not a joke? Sorry. I thought someone was being facetious when they started this thread.

Ok, how about this?
The Clintons have a long history of shady financial dealings, and apparently are still up to their old tricks.
Other than mileage, Hilary's State Dept service consisted "What difference does it make?" Shows you how much loyalty she has to those that are killed during her leadership.
While I worked for the State Dept (in IT) it was a violation to utilize personal email for duty. She was supposed to be leading by example and the same rules apply to her. She also had classified information on her personal computer/server. And yet, not only is she not incarcerated, but she wasn't even charged.
We won't go into the influence peddling her husband and she were involved in, under guise of charitable donations, or whatever they are calling their so-called "fund."
Does anyone remember the angry response she snapped when being interviewed in Africa? That goes a long way for being a "people person." Not to mention the quotes from the White House secret service and other service staff when she resided there.
Oh, how about their theft of items belonging to the White House (silverware/china) when they left. Of course, she DID say that they were penniless when they left D.C.

Yep, she is a real trustworthy example of D.C. politics....NOT!

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Oh, so this really is a serious subject, and not a joke? Sorry. I thought someone was being facetious when they started this thread.

Ok, how about this?
The Clintons have a long history of shady financial dealings, and apparently are still up to their old tricks.
Other than mileage, Hilary's State Dept service consisted "What difference does it make?" Shows you how much loyalty she has to those that are killed during her leadership.
While I worked for the State Dept (in IT) it was a violation to utilize personal email for duty. She was supposed to be leading by example and the same rules apply to her. She also had classified information on her personal computer/server. And yet, not only is she not incarcerated, but she wasn't even charged.
We won't go into the influence peddling her husband and she were involved in, under guise of charitable donations, or whatever they are calling their so-called "fund."
Does anyone remember the angry response she snapped when being interviewed in Africa? That goes a long way for being a "people person." Not to mention the quotes from the White House secret service and other service staff when she resided there.
Oh, how about their theft of items belonging to the White House (silverware/china) when they left. Of course, she DID say that they were penniless when they left D.C.

Yep, she is a real trustworthy example of D.C. politics....NOT!

Don't forget that she had the CIA kill Vince Foster when his niece, Jody Foster, was having an affair with John Hinkley.
Hillary also was famous for sneaking in dachunds late at night at the White House and having dog fighting betting nights with the rich and powerful in Washington. Her favorite dog, Pickles, was always the winner - go figure that the dog fights were fixed.

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Please respond with the question to which Sec. Clinton asked "What difference does it make?". Looking forward to your reply. Doubt if you know, though.

A poster said a president must have integrity. Well, George "Weasel" lacked that trait completely as did his puppet master, Cheney.

You obviously are misinformed and ignorant of the character of Bush. But, I have found that to be a standard for those that voted for the present mistake residing in the White House.

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loser 1 Hussein Obamma liar in chief
loser 2 Hillary, ( Sir Edmund Haha) liar in waiting
but have no fear the elite of America ( professors, Judges, Media) will have their way and flush what is left of our great and wonderful country.

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Hilary Clinton said yesterday that she deleted her personal emails, so how does she hand over stuff that's been deleted? The other emails (55,000 pages) have been turned over to the State Department, and they will release them as soon as they declassify them.

Isn't it possible that Bill Clinton used the server for work other than emails; such as material about the Clinton Foundation?

You are kidding, right? They will release them as soon as they DECLASSIFY THEM? If she had classified information on that unencrypted system, then there is no question that she committed a felony. The question is, why isn't she incarcerated? Look up the statute regarding the safe keeping of classified material.

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Barack Obama claims deficit has decreased by two-thirds since taking office | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/jan/20/barack-obama/barack-obama-claims-deficit-has-decreased-two-thir/)

President Obama claims the deficit has decreased by two thirds since 2009. He made this claim in his state of the union speech on Jan 20, 2015. Politifact rates this claim as mostly true.

Look at the charts contained in the article.

There has not been a surplus since Eisenhower. Check out the climbing national debt. When they claim they are reducing the deficit, they are referring to the BUDGET deficit. That means that they are reducing the amount OVER the budget that they spend. Unfortunately, since Obama never had a budget, he can say anything he wishes.
Clinton did NOT have a budget. Go to Treasurydirect.gov and look at the stats. He signed a budget for Bush's first year that was unrealistic. There was no pay down of the national debt, therefore no reduced debt.

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There has not been a surplus since Eisenhower. Check out the climbing national debt. When they claim they are reducing the deficit, they are referring to the BUDGET deficit. That means that they are reducing the amount OVER the budget that they spend. Unfortunately, since Obama never had a budget, he can say anything he wishes.
Clinton did NOT have a budget. Go to Treasurydirect.gov and look at the stats. He signed a budget for Bush's first year that was unrealistic. There was no pay down of the national debt, therefore no reduced debt.

Correction: Clinton did NOT have a surplus.

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As stated by another female candidate.....you can't put lipstick on a pig (or something like that).

I believe that quote suits this subject very well.

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So much chatter on here about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. How many people actually know the purpose of the Clinton Foundation? I suggest you actually research the topic BEFORE writing your pathetic posts. You will find it is a charitable foundation that has helped milliions of people around the world. Of course, to most of the right wing nuts - and gang of 6 - helping people is not what they are about.

Gotta love it. I guess you didn't read or hear about what was recently revealed about the so-called Clinton "charity?" Look it up and see what a small percentage actually goes to "charity." Do you liberals purposely move about life with blinders.

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This is just the same old ultra-conservative hash that is rehashed one more time. There is no need for moral outrage because there is no wrong doing. Admit it, the conservatives are terrified of Mrs. Clinton because she is a strong and competent woman. She is a smart person and is heads and shoulders above ANY Republican candidate.

Once again, remember the demographics of the Democratic Party and of the Republican Party. The demographics are totally in place for Mrs. Clinton to win the presidency. Can you dispute that? NO, you cannot.

I am sure that you are basing your OPINION of Billary on gender bias. And you comment is purely OPINION. And as far as demographics is concerned, you have obviously discounted the Independent voter. Right now, I believe you will find that the Independent voter is not so struck with Billary as you.

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Gotta love it. I guess you didn't read or hear about what was recently revealed about the so-called Clinton "charity?" Look it up and see what a small percentage actually goes to "charity." Do you liberals purposely move about life with blinders.

I sure do not know anything about this charity but the one that caught my attention recently.....

"When Condoleezza Rice headlined a 2009 fundraising luncheon for the Boys and Girls Club of Long Beach, she collected a $60,000 speaking fee, then donated almost all of it back to the club, according to multiple sources familiar with the club’s finances.
Hillary Clinton was not so generous to the small charity, which provides after-school programs to underprivileged children across the Southern California city. Clinton collected $200,000 to speak at the same event five years later, but she donated nothing back to the club, which raised less than half as much from Clinton’s appearance as from Rice’s, according to the sources and tax filings.


Read more: Clintons charge big fees to small groups - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/the-clinton-foundation-non-profit-groups-fees-119030.html#ixzz3fL35Y8li)

Now in the link it mentioned that she gave it to her own The Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation. You would think that with al the scrutiny...well, anyway that charity is under the gun....

Read here about their fundraising techniques...

‘Hillary Clinton Sold Her Soul When They Accepted That Money’ - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/clintons-morocco-117979.html#.VZ2ZHng-BPN)

AND in addition we have all heard about Mr Blumenthal, the gentleman in many of her emails in question whom she said was a friend and not an advisor...

"Sidney Blumenthal, a longtime confidant of Bill and Hillary Clinton, earned about $10,000 a month as a full-time employee of the Clinton Foundation while he was providing unsolicited intelligence on Libya to then Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, according to multiple sources familiar with the arrangement.
Blumenthal was added to the payroll of the Clintons’ global philanthropy in 2009 — not long after advising Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign — at the behest of former president Bill Clinton, for whom he had worked in the White House, say the sources."


Read more: Clinton Foundation paid Sidney Blumenthal $10,000 per month while he advised on Libya - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/clinton-foundation-sidney-blumenthal-salary-libya-118359.html#ixzz3fL4Aalsq)

These are from POLITICO...not a far right wing conspiracy, and similar articles have appeared in the New York Times, obviously not a Republican foot soldier.

I don't know how the Democratic party can allow her to carry the mantle of this party. If you read the last link you will find even employees of the Foundation have lots of big questions about the money being spent.

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Wall Street makes money for itself

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Wall Street makes money for itself

you forgot the other part.....and for it's investors.

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Without wall st. many here would not have their retirement.

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WOW!

Some people are so creative with their imagination. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


Other than an ever-increasing body count, Hillary's resume is quite thin:

THE CLINTON BODY-COUNT (http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html)

This person has done nothing. Clintons have the money and the only thing left is power. You can't trust anything she says.

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"WASHINGTON -- One day after Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said she "never had a subpoena" for the emails she sent while secretary of state, House Republicans on Wednesday released a document appearing to contradict her -- namely, the subpoena they'd served Clinton earlier this year."

NOW recall the fiasco with her husband on what is the meaning of "having sex" ?

NOW we have the debate on what is the meaning of

"When Clinton on Tuesday said she'd "never had a subpoena," that appears to be contradicted by the subpoena House Republicans issued her in March. But it depends on what the meaning of the word "had" is"

House Republicans Release The Subpoena Hillary Clinton Said She Never Received For Her Emails (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/08/hillary-clinton-emails-_n_7756106.html)

And other good reading...

A Fact-Check of Hillary Clinton (http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/07/08/we-fact-check-hillary-clintons-cnn-interview-on-her-personal-email/)

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She's a liar, just like her husband. They are arrogant and could care less what anyone else thinks of them.

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This is obviously a thread of interest with over 10,000 hits.
Even though it is probably only ten of us or so with repeated hits to see the latest yarn being spun on this corrupt "lady".

Why is a person with so much controversy, so much uncertainty, so much dis-ingenuous play supported by so many democrats?
We all know there are the same types of good solid Americans in either party or race or religion who do in fact understand right from wrong and are law abiding citizens and good neighbors.
The only conclusion one can reach is they remain silent onthe subject, hence all we hear are the fanatic party loyals would back whoever the party puts in front of them.

Maybe the silents will express there displeasure in the voting booth in the event she becomes the candidate. I just do not understand why the following when there most certainly are better people in the party for the job.

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The democrats have nobody on the bench. They are all in with Clinton despite her past. The left-wing mind set is one of denial. This is what we have come to as a nation - unqualified and corrupt candidates and uninformed/uncaring voters.

This is obviously a thread of interest with over 10,000 hits.
Even though it is probably only ten of us or so with repeated hits to see the latest yarn being spun on this corrupt "lady".

Why is a person with so much controversy, so much uncertainty, so much dis-ingenuous play supported by so many democrats?
We all know there are the same types of good solid Americans in either party or race or religion who do in fact understand right from wrong and are law abiding citizens and good neighbors.
The only conclusion one can reach is they remain silent onthe subject, hence all we hear are the fanatic party loyals would back whoever the party puts in front of them.

Maybe the silents will express there displeasure in the voting booth in the event she becomes the candidate. I just do not understand why the following when there most certainly are better people in the party for the job.

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The democrats have nobody on the bench. They are all in with Clinton despite her past. The left-wing mind set is one of denial. This is what we have come to as a nation - unqualified and corrupt candidates and uninformed/uncaring voters.

I agree. Do you and others have an opinion about why this is happening....being allowed to happen?

Is the answer locked up in the 50% or more who choose not to register/vote?

I subscribe to the old saying that all people are basically good and left to their own devices will do what is right.

I do believe most people, regardless of party, race religion would want the very best person for any job, especially one that is supposed to be for the people.

Why do we only hear from the party radicals that will do what ever it takes to promote whoever is on the ticket? Sort of like the "good Muslims" we never hear from. Why is that.

What is the event or events that will finally stir this nation to take it back to it's former stature....as a nation and as a people?

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I agree. Do you and others have an opinion about why this is happening....being allowed to happen?

Is the answer locked up in the 50% or more who choose not to register/vote?


What is the event or events that will finally stir this nation to take it back to it's former stature....as a nation and as a people?

We are no longer that country. We have lost that part of the American Way when we let the small minority of disgruntled losers dictate over the voice of the majority. If one person feels slighted then the majority has to suffer. We coddle to a few regardless of the position of the many. This is the Obama Utopia that the delusional liberals cried for. The police have to have gov oversight and body cams, and now they are calling for the teachers to have gov oversight and body cams. How long before it will be mandatory for all to wear body cams so that the gov can "protect" you.

Bush started this liberal take over with his tax cut allowing almost half the population to slide on their obligation to contribute to the income tax program. They even went as far as to give refunds to the lower portion of non-earners; money that they never paid to begin with. Now, the socialist party (that used to be called Democrats) are able to control those votes to maintain a majority. After all, even though it was the Republicans that gave the lower earners the great tax break, the liberal party insists that the Republicans want to throw granny off the cliff. It was Obama that said older folks don't necessarily need hip replacements or heart transplants; just give them a pill for their pain. It's the Republicans that hate children, even though it's the liberals that want to kill them before they are born. They believe in killing innocents but are against executing the evil murders. They believe in a total separation of church and state, but threaten to take tax exemption away from churches that refuse to marry gays.

But, I digress.

Don't bother asking how Billary feels about a subject because "what difference does it make?" She will say exactly what you want to hear regarding her stand on any given subject. Not much difference from what we have heard from the present occupier of the White House. Billary can mistreat the media and they still scramble after her like she is some sort of diva :bigbow:. If you liberals need a female at all costs, why not find a better suited mental case like Caitlin Jenner? barf

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NYT: Criminal probe sought of Hillary Clinton emails - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyt-criminal-probe-sought-of-hillary-clinton-emails/)

A criminal probe for Ms. Clinton???

I'm sure there is something the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is not telling us, or maybe they're telling us something that's not true?

Ms. Clinton, the lady who loves the Little People almost as much as she loves herself, has told us she absolutely, positively did not have any classified emails in her private server whereupon she conducted official business as Secretary of State. I mean come on, since when does SecState ever really have to deal with classified information or something? I totally believe her.

I'm sure this is just a clerical error of some sort whereby several hundred classified emails made it into her private server. I'm sure any proper thinking person agrees with me.

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NYT: Criminal probe sought of Hillary Clinton emails - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nyt-criminal-probe-sought-of-hillary-clinton-emails/)

A criminal probe for Ms. Clinton???

I'm sure there is something the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is not telling us, or maybe they're telling us something that's not true?

Ms. Clinton, the lady who loves the Little People almost as much as she loves herself, has told us she absolutely, positively did not have any classified emails in her private server whereupon she conducted official business as Secretary of State. I mean come on, since when does SecState ever really have to deal with classified information or something? I totally believe her.

I'm sure this is just a clerical error of some sort whereby several hundred classified emails made it into her private server. I'm sure any proper thinking person agrees with me.

I realize this is a bit late, but I just wanted to assure you that it is literally impossible for classified information to cross over from a classified, encrypted system to an unclassified computer system. The only way classified would be on her computer is if she purposely obtained it on her computer. And knowing from experience, she is violating federal law by doing so. On top of that, she improperly disposed of classified information, another law broken. If these accusations are true, she is a felon. Anyone working for her, would have been immediately fired for if they were caught doing these things, even without the classified information issue.

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Unfortunately, the laws may not be applied uniformly to everyone. This has been the one constant throughout history.

I realize this is a bit late, but I just wanted to assure you that it is literally impossible for classified information to cross over from a classified, encrypted system to an unclassified computer system. The only way classified would be on her computer is if she purposely obtained it on her computer. And knowing from experience, she is violating federal law by doing so. On top of that, she improperly disposed of classified information, another law broken. If these accusations are true, she is a felon. Anyone working for her, would have been immediately fired for if they were caught doing these things, even without the classified information issue.

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I realize this is a bit late, but I just wanted to assure you that it is literally impossible for classified information to cross over from a classified, encrypted system to an unclassified computer system. The only way classified would be on her computer is if she purposely obtained it on her computer. And knowing from experience, :blahblahblah:she is violating federal law by doing so. On top of that, she improperly disposed of classified information, another law broken. If these accusations are true, she is a felon. :ohdear:Anyone working for her, would have been immediately fired for if they were caught doing these things, even without the classified information issue.:blahblahblah:


Hey, we are lucky to have a classified information expert on the forum. He obviously knows all all the ins and outs of classified information from the State Department.

We should intently listen to his sage blatherings and totally biased minutiae since he is the expert - and it must be true - he told us! :popcorn:

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Hey, we are lucky to have a classified information expert on the forum. He obviously knows all all the ins and outs of classified information from the State Department.

We should intently listen to his sage blatherings and totally biased minutiae since he is the expert - and it must be true - he told us! :popcorn:

I guess the choice is to either believe the poster or to believe Hillary. And when you consider that one of them is a KNOWN liar, the choice is much easier to make.

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Hey, we are lucky to have a classified information expert on the forum. He obviously knows all all the ins and outs of classified information from the State Department.

We should intently listen to his sage blatherings and totally biased minutiae since he is the expert - and it must be true - he told us! :popcorn:

Aalways mocking. Are you just not allowed to respect anyone's position?
Nobody is asking you to accept or support.
Just be respectful there are others who do not think or support what you do.

Always the lame and disresctful dissing of your neighbors.
Of course under the cover of and hiding, as always, behind the keyboard.

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Hey, we are lucky to have a classified information expert on the forum. He obviously knows all all the ins and outs of classified information from the State Department.

We should intently listen to his sage blatherings and totally biased minutiae since he is the expert - and it must be true - he told us! :popcorn:

I don't think you would be able to understand what he explains so don't' bother and just go back to stuffing your face with popcorn

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I will say something similar. At this point in time, what difference does it make? Hillary Clinton will be YOUR next President of the USA. :coolsmiley:


Maybe not ... latest poll has Trump beating Hillary 45-40 in head to head match. Her numbers will drop even lower after she's indicted around Christmas time

Poll: Trump beats Hillary head-to-head | TheHill (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/252825-poll-trump-beats-hillary-head-to-head)

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Hey, we are lucky to have a classified information expert on the forum. He obviously knows all all the ins and outs of classified information from the State Department.

We should intently listen to his sage blatherings and totally biased minutiae since he is the expert - and it must be true - he told us! :popcorn:

And if you knew something that contradicted what I stated, you would surely share it, right? TROLL ALERT

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And if you knew something that contradicted what I stated, you would surely share it, right? TROLL ALERT

Your posts always remind of the three monkeys ... covering their ears, eyes and mouth. Nice job.

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Your posts always remind of the three monkeys ... covering their ears, eyes and mouth. Nice job.

And this from the one that believes Obie to be his/her messiah and Hilary to her/his virgin Mary. :thumbup: