View Full Version : Dont you love the media....
Guest
02-16-2015, 05:43 PM
Gail Collins of the New York Times is just about the most liberal reporter over there and spends almost all of her time attacking Republicans and with great glee.
During the 2012 campaign, she took great delight in mentioning Mitt Romneys dog in almost every column......issues to be discussed, etc but she kept after that.
Well, she made an error and it would be very difficult to find out about this because as we all know, the NYTimes makes no errors and the media has no bias.
"In hindsight, perhaps the headline “Scott Walker Needs An Eraser” wasn’t the best idea.
In a recent column about the Wisconsin governor, a conservative Republican, New York Times columnist Gail Collins wrote that Walker had cut state aid to education, causing teacher layoffs in 2010. But Walker didn’t take office until 2011.
Whoops.
Conservative news sites had a field day with the error over the weekend, with The Weekly Standard’s John McCormack calling out the (since deleted and corrected, but archived) mistaken section in question.
Collins wrote that Walker’s recent speech in Iowa was all about “waging war on public employee unions, particularly the ones for teachers.” She cited the case of a Claudia Felske, who took issue with Walker’s characterization of the layoffs.
New York Times corrects Scott Walker column - Nick Gass - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/scott-walker-correction-new-york-times-115229.html)
Of course we have this.....
"Collins did not reply to an email seeking comment.""
Read more: New York Times corrects Scott Walker column - Nick Gass - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/scott-walker-correction-new-york-times-115229.html#ixzz3RwzcTcuB)
Recall when political races started shortly before the election took place and the candidates gave their positions on issues, and the voters decided on a candidate ??
Now...well, know that I understand the NYTimes actually tracked down Walker's junior high school science teacher looking and looking.
It just amazes me. Well, other words rather than "amazes" but cannot say them all here.
Guest
02-16-2015, 05:55 PM
Walker is a second-tier candidate and going nowhere.
Kinda surprised Collins wasted time writing a story about the guy
Guest
02-16-2015, 05:57 PM
Walker is a second-tier candidate and going nowhere.
Kinda surprised Collins wasted time writing a story about the guy
I was also, but it surely bodes well for Walker, because posters on here are on the attack on him...must be scaring somebody !!!
Guest
02-16-2015, 06:18 PM
Walker is a second-tier candidate and going nowhere.
Kinda surprised Collins wasted time writing a story about the guy
You know, I think Dems are starting to figure out Walker is a bonafide threat .. hence their initial instinct is to belittle, make fun of etc ...
I'm enjoying this phenomenon :)
Guest
02-16-2015, 06:30 PM
You know, I think Dems are starting to figure out Walker is a bonafide threat .. hence their initial instinct is to belittle, make fun of etc ...
I'm enjoying this phenomenon :)
Should a college drop out even be considered? It would seem that Gov Walker lacked the initiative to go back and earn a few credits over a period of 20 years.
This might be a good topic for a new thread. Should POTUS have a college degree? Most entry-level jobs require one these days, why not POTUS.
Guest
02-16-2015, 06:31 PM
Should a college drop out even be considered? It would seem that Gov Walker lacked the initiative to go back and earn a few credits over a period of 20 years.
This might be a good topic for a new thread. Should POTUS have a college degree? Most entry-level jobs require one these days, why not POTUS.
Start a thread then.....be everyone's guest. You seem obsessed with this mans intelligence level so have at it.
Guest
02-16-2015, 06:44 PM
Start a thread then.....be everyone's guest. You seem obsessed with this mans intelligence level so have at it.
Even Sarah Palin finally graduated after attending six different colleges.
Guest
02-16-2015, 06:53 PM
Should a college drop out even be considered? It would seem that Gov Walker lacked the initiative to go back and earn a few credits over a period of 20 years.
This might be a good topic for a new thread. Should POTUS have a college degree? Most entry-level jobs require one these days, why not POTUS.
Dear guest: You may want to direct that question to Bill Gates
Guest
02-16-2015, 06:56 PM
Walker is a second-tier candidate and going nowhere.
Kinda surprised Collins wasted time writing a story about the guy
Dear guest: Once again a reminder that you have not made a legitimate counterpoint but an emotional charge. Your charge may or may not be correct but we can't know unless you offer reasons why you believe Walker is a second tier candidate
Personal Best Regards:
Guest
02-16-2015, 06:58 PM
Dear guest: Once again a reminder that you have not made a legitimate counterpoint but an emotional charge. Your charge may or may not be correct but we can't know unless you offer reasons why you believe Walker is a second tier candidate
Personal Best Regards:
I just started a thread on Walker to satisfy this hunger for information on his youth.
Dont you wish that the background stuff on certain current elected officials was so open ???? Records sealed on college, etc.
Guest
02-16-2015, 07:00 PM
Reporters such as Collins do a great disservice to their profession and the new York Times diminishes itself by their continual allowing reporters to fabricate stories.
Guest
02-16-2015, 07:34 PM
In 2008 a heretofore nobody like Obama can come out of the woodwork and bump off the supposed most likely to win, Clinton.......why not Walker or someone we haven't even herd about yet????
Guest
02-16-2015, 07:42 PM
Gov Walker has accomplished great things with the Wisconsin economy, won election three times in a blue state, and is experienced and well spoken....i think this trumps a degree from college anytime.
Guest
02-16-2015, 08:14 PM
Gov Walker has accomplished great things with the Wisconsin economy, won election three times in a blue state, and is experienced and well spoken....i think this trumps a degree from college anytime.
And since foreign policy is going to play a big part in the next election, what exactly is his foreign policy experience?
Guest
02-16-2015, 08:15 PM
And since foreign policy is going to play a big part in the next election, what exactly is his foreign policy experience?
Same or more than the current President had !!!!
Guest
02-16-2015, 08:34 PM
And since foreign policy is going to play a big part in the next election, what exactly is his foreign policy experience?
Same or more than the current President had !!!!
Which would be nowhere near what former Secretary of State Hilary Clinton has.
Guest
02-16-2015, 08:40 PM
Which would be nowhere near what former Secretary of State Hilary Clinton has.
BUT...BUT....
She is rich...how will she handle the wealth...middle class shrinkage, etc.
Oh, and she lost to Obama in 2008......oh...lots of things.
Dumb comparison in my view. We have seen Presidents with NO experience do well and folks with lots do poorly.
LEADERSHIP is the answer...LEADERSHIP is what to look for. Succesfull people are leaders who can recognize the talent....
Guest
02-16-2015, 10:12 PM
So I went and read the NYT piece on Walker. In it are a whole lot of criticisms of the Governor's education politics. One part was wrong, it has been removed with a footnote at the bottom documenting the error. Any disagreement with the other material in Collin's piece? How about his plan to allow people with absolutely no training in how to teach, manage a classroom, develop a lesson plan, recognize a learning disability etc. to get teaching licenses in Wisconsin because they have "life experience". I guess if you don't finish getting your own degree you don't value the worth and achievement of other who do finish.
Guest
02-16-2015, 10:25 PM
Gov Walker has accomplished great things with the Wisconsin economy, won election three times in a blue state, and is experienced and well spoken....i think this trumps a degree from college anytime.
You are not giving me the evidence about "great things with the Wisconsin economy"
Under Scott Walker, Wisconsin lags U.S. in wage, job growth, 'Meet the Press' host Chuck Todd says | PolitiFact Wisconsin (http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2014/nov/28/chuck-todd/under-scott-walker-wisconsin-lags-us-wage-job-grow/)
The fact is that over Walker’s full term in office, which began Jan. 3, 2011, the state’s job gains have been well below the national average, and rank (in percentage terms) only ninth among all 12 Midwestern states.
Our calculations are based on seasonally adjusted figures for total nonfarm employment from the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ Current Employment Survey, which is the most timely and most commonly used measure of employment at the state and national levels. It is also the source cited by Walker’s ad to support his “top four” claim.
And what those figures show is that as of September, the most recent figures available and the last that will be released before Election Day, the state has gained 4.3 percent in total employment since Walker took office. Meanwhile, the United States as a whole has gained 6.6 percent during the same period.
Still Spinning Wisconsin Voters (http://www.factcheck.org/2014/10/still-spinning-wisconsin-voters/)
As to your assertion that Wisconsin is a blue state... Republican governor, Senate 19 R 14 D, Assembly 63 R 36 D. Of course some of that is due to gerrymandered districts, a whole different topic. US Senate 1 R, 1 D, US House 5 R, 3 D. Doesn't seem like such a blue state to me
Guest
02-16-2015, 10:47 PM
And since foreign policy is going to play a big part in the next election, what exactly is his foreign policy experience?
I'd rather have someone with leadership ability as POTUS advised by foreign policy experts than the Selfie in Chief we have in there now
Guest
02-18-2015, 09:28 PM
So I went and read the NYT piece on Walker. In it are a whole lot of criticisms of the Governor's education politics. One part was wrong, it has been removed with a footnote at the bottom documenting the error. Any disagreement with the other material in Collin's piece? How about his plan to allow people with absolutely no training in how to teach, manage a classroom, develop a lesson plan, recognize a learning disability etc. to get teaching licenses in Wisconsin because they have "life experience". I guess if you don't finish getting your own degree you don't value the worth and achievement of other who do finish.
Well, let’s be honest … anyone who picked up the NYT knew beforehand the Collins article was intended to be a hit piece, not some type of pristine, balanced investigative journalism. I’m surprised she even bothered to correct her error. I would have thought she would just say “well, even if it wasn’t true, it could have been” …ie similar to the Rolling Stone article on the rapes, crimes etc connected with the UVa fraternity culture.
The real problem in academia today is there is essentially zero diversity in thought. The faculties are about 9 to 1 liberal, and what used to be education is morphing into ideological indoctrination.
My solution: modify the diversity laws to mandate ideological diversity on the faculties of any college / university that takes federal money, in rough approximation to the population. Right now, it’s unbalanced … in more ways than one.
Maybe President Walker will, with a Republican Congress, pass such a law?
Guest
02-19-2015, 06:00 PM
Dear guest: You may want to direct that question to Bill Gates
What office is Gates running for?
Guest
02-19-2015, 07:39 PM
Should a college drop out even be considered? It would seem that Gov Walker lacked the initiative to go back and earn a few credits over a period of 20 years.
This might be a good topic for a new thread. Should POTUS have a college degree? Most entry-level jobs require one these days, why not POTUS.
No, of course not. That would be way too "based on merit" and proven leadership ability vs relying on paper based credentials from a degree. As one who has a BS and MBA, the only capable leaders I've ever encountered in industry, the military or government have always had some type of degree. I've also noticed that success correlates nearly 100% with GPA. After all, we only want enlightened people, and most especially if they are capable of nuance like Marie Harf.
Thus, I would support any statist move you might want to suggest to repress the Walker campaign ... especially since it looks like he will clean Elizabeth's Warren's clock. Hillary won't get the nomination IMHO)
Thus, I agree ... Any POTUS candidate MUST have a degree!!
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